Residency Fraud

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"Residency fraud" is a code-word for I don't want black kids at my school. No one cared about this issue until white started living outside NW. Now that white people have pushed out the black people to PG, they create more excuses to gentrify the city by getting people riled up about "residency fraud". The plan is at work.

Not always. Based on what people are willing to say in public (surely some won't even admit it), I'd venture that there are dozens of upper income families of all races renting cheapest efficiency apartments in the Deal zone--and not living there--so as to have the address for those 3 middle school years. That's also a form of residency fraud, and a whole lot of wealthy people engage in it.

What? I'm OP and I'm white and would really like to get into my IB school, but the person in question has moved out of state and plans on using their now-rental as their address. Fuck them. I want that spot or at least I want somebody who lives in the neighborhood to get it. Not some rich assholes with multiple properties who just want free preschool because only DC offers it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You. Are. Troubled. Really, you are. Thank you for reaffirming our decision not to move to that side of the park.

You. Justify. Criminals. Really, you do.

[Anonymous]

If someone owns a property in DC, even if it is rented out, they are still paying DC property taxes which go to fund schools specifically. If they list the place as their primary residence, which they would likely need to do at least for a while, then they would also have to pay DC income tax. I don't like the idea of residence fraud, but it wouldn't necessarily compute that they are getting something for free off the taxpayers' back.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If someone owns a property in DC, even if it is rented out, they are still paying DC property taxes which go to fund schools specifically. If they list the place as their primary residence, which they would likely need to do at least for a while, then they would also have to pay DC income tax. I don't like the idea of residence fraud, but it wouldn't necessarily compute that they are getting something for free off the taxpayers' back.

Are you really trying to justify somebody doing something illegal? I don't care if they pay taxes in DC, I care that they are cheating. Many of us suck it up and make it work to be in bounds for the school we want. For any of you thinking of committing fraud, just a heads up that if you're in my hood, I'm calling the damn hotline and alerting the principal.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If someone owns a property in DC, even if it is rented out, they are still paying DC property taxes which go to fund schools specifically. If they list the place as their primary residence, which they would likely need to do at least for a while, then they would also have to pay DC income tax. I don't like the idea of residence fraud, but it wouldn't necessarily compute that they are getting something for free off the taxpayers' back.

Are you really trying to justify somebody doing something illegal? I don't care if they pay taxes in DC, I care that they are cheating. Many of us suck it up and make it work to be in bounds for the school we want. For any of you thinking of committing fraud, just a heads up that if you're in my hood, I'm calling the damn hotline and alerting the principal.

People committing residency fraud within DC need to be found and sanctioned. But at least they're paying taxes in the city and actually residing here (precisely where is the question). It's the fraudsters who don't live in the District at all and pay no taxes here yet sneak their kids into DC schools -- whether for free after care, a better school that is more convenient mom or dad's job, you name it -- who really deserve the book thrown at them.

[Anonymous]

My spouse is a teacher at a well known dcps school. Often times I pick up my children from school in MD and then pick up spouse at dcps school. Anyone can assume that I just picked up my children at said dcps...

There are so many reasons why you see a car with MD/VA tags dropping/picking up someone at your beloved school...

just saying.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My spouse is a teacher at a well known dcps school. Often times I pick up my children from school in MD and then pick up spouse at dcps school. Anyone can assume that I just picked up my children at said dcps...

There are so many reasons why you see a car with MD/VA tags dropping/picking up someone at your beloved school...

just saying.

When you pick up your wife, does she say "thanks mom!" Because that's usually what I see- enormous fancy SUVs dropping off or picking up kids who always refer to the driver as mom. The poor-performing charter schools are the worst at checking for residency fraud since they have no incentive to kick out kids since they're underenrolled.

[Anonymous]

If someone owns a property in DC, even if it is rented out, they are still paying DC property taxes which go to fund schools specifically. If they list the place as their primary residence, which they would likely need to do at least for a while, then they would also have to pay DC income tax. I don't like the idea of residence fraud, but it wouldn't necessarily compute that they are getting something for free off the taxpayers' back.

They're only paying DC income tax for the period where they're living in DC. They can't avoid paying in Virginia or Maryland or wherever they've bought their new home. Talk about justifying bad behavior. It's the worst for those in PK. I've seen so many lottery lucky people take up PK slots that could have gone to people who have a real interest in remaining in DC and being part of the elementary school community and once the K years come they disappear (or even early in the case of the ones who buy mid-year and commit residency fraud for the remainder of the year.)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My spouse is a teacher at a well known dcps school. Often times I pick up my children from school in MD and then pick up spouse at dcps school. Anyone can assume that I just picked up my children at said dcps...

There are so many reasons why you see a car with MD/VA tags dropping/picking up someone at your beloved school...

just saying.

Sure. OP here. This is not why I think (know) they are planning to cheat.

[Anonymous]

You guys keep bitching about this residency fraud. Obviously OSSE has better things to do then follow up on this issue. DC schools are flush with money, so trying to consistently chase mostly middle to low income, mostly minority parents is not worth it economically. I recall seeing an internal report that notes that pursing these offenders generally costs more than what they would even collect in penalties/taxes, if they even collect it at all.

Shit, you have DC employees themselves doing it. Is it fair to young white families that now occupy various quadrants of DC? No. But its also unfair that living in the city that the city has become unaffordable for many, and many have been displaced by greedy landlords and developers. Is it legal, no. But life is not fair. So get over it.

Since many of you seem like go getters, maybe you could create your own residency fraud parent task force. Then you could gather evidence and put together your own cases to present to the city. That would be a great use of your time instead of wasting your energy posting the same shit on multiple threads.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You guys keep bitching about this residency fraud. Obviously OSSE has better things to do then follow up on this issue. DC schools are flush with money, so trying to consistently chase mostly middle to low income, mostly minority parents is not worth it economically. I recall seeing an internal report that notes that pursing these offenders generally costs more than what they would even collect in penalties/taxes, if they even collect it at all.

Shit, you have DC employees themselves doing it. Is it fair to young white families that now occupy various quadrants of DC? No. But its also unfair that living in the city that the city has become unaffordable for many, and many have been displaced by greedy landlords and developers. Is it legal, no. But life is not fair. So get over it.

Since many of you seem like go getters, maybe you could create your own residency fraud parent task force. Then you could gather evidence and put together your own cases to present to the city. That would be a great use of your time instead of wasting your energy posting the same shit on multiple threads.

This!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You guys keep bitching about this residency fraud. Obviously OSSE has better things to do then follow up on this issue. DC schools are flush with money, so trying to consistently chase mostly middle to low income, mostly minority parents is not worth it economically. I recall seeing an internal report that notes that pursing these offenders generally costs more than what they would even collect in penalties/taxes, if they even collect it at all.

Shit, you have DC employees themselves doing it. Is it fair to young white families that now occupy various quadrants of DC? No. But its also unfair that living in the city that the city has become unaffordable for many, and many have been displaced by greedy landlords and developers. Is it legal, no. But life is not fair. So get over it.

Since many of you seem like go getters, maybe you could create your own residency fraud parent task force. Then you could gather evidence and put together your own cases to present to the city. That would be a great use of your time instead of wasting your energy posting the same shit on multiple threads.

It's most unfair to disadvantaged (largely black/Hispanic) kids in DC whose parents, or more likely single parent/grandmother, play by the rules and were unsuccessful in getting a slot in a better school -- because the scamming parent(s) of some kid from Maryland basically snuck in and stole it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My spouse is a teacher at a well known dcps school. Often times I pick up my children from school in MD and then pick up spouse at dcps school. Anyone can assume that I just picked up my children at said dcps...

There are so many reasons why you see a car with MD/VA tags dropping/picking up someone at your beloved school...

just saying.

But the vast reality is that kids get out of MD-plated vehicles and then at the end of the day (or after care day) come out of the school and get into MD cars.

Of course, there are always legitimate explanations in certain situations. But the sheer numbers of MD vehicles dropping off and picking up kids suggests that residency fraud is pretty widespread in DCPS and charters.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A friend is the registrar at a DCPS school. She has visited addresses claimed by parents as part of residency verification. Not the same as home visits but if a school suspects fraud, they can and some do visit to verify.

That seems like kind of a fun job.

Really? Wow, I would hate to hang out with you. Showing a pregnant mom the sonogram of her baby sounds like a fun job. Marrying a couple who are deeply in love sounds like a fun job. Rooting children out of an elementary school doesn't sound like a fun job. Necessary yes, but fun no. Unless of course, you're a miserable human being. Anyone who loves to deliver bad news is broken on some level. You are one of them, PP.

New Poster here: Whoa! Who's overreacting here? Got a chip on your shoulder, much?
Remember, everybody: the students involved are four years old. They have an excuse. Their parents? Who knows? Maybe they are as evil as Pol Pot, but the attitude of pp here doesn't help.
You don't have to act like a four year old to advocate for your four year old. In fact, that approach backfires.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My spouse is a teacher at a well known dcps school. Often times I pick up my children from school in MD and then pick up spouse at dcps school. Anyone can assume that I just picked up my children at said dcps...

There are so many reasons why you see a car with MD/VA tags dropping/picking up someone at your beloved school...

just saying.

But the vast reality is that kids get out of MD-plated vehicles and then at the end of the day (or after care day) come out of the school and get into MD cars.

Of course, there are always legitimate explanations in certain situations. But the sheer numbers of MD vehicles dropping off and picking up kids suggests that residency fraud is pretty widespread in DCPS and charters.

Many of whom work for DCPS and other DC government offices, BTW!