Are charters keeping you in DC - or are they holding back your neighborhood DCPS?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We moved to Petworth when our oldest was 2 and are pleased with the quality of the nearby DCPS school (it was not our IB but was closer than our IB because of the boundaries.) Many couples we knew in our Adams Morgan days have moved to Arlington or Mo Co but most of them also had family or worked in those areas. Many other friends have stayed and we are among those who aren't at a charter (Inspired Teaching, Munde Verde etc.)
I don't feel that that charters and OOB is holding back our two local neighborhood schools. They both have long waitlists! If anything, more and more middle class professionals are doing the lottery, doing preschool here, visiting an array of DCPS schools and charters and realizing the potential that exists here in the city. Instead of dismissing the local schools out of hand and moving.

Any post like this and the OPs is discredited. The OOB lottery is the same in this argument as a charter. You are not attending your IB school.

How so? OP said the school her child attends is CLOSER than her IB school. A true definition of neighborhood school if you ask me, as it literally resides in her neighborhood. And you are faulting her because of a mere technically that her child school lies outside of the boundary? Grow up.

Aw cute. PS parents are out posting tonight!

[Anonymous]

Fact remains if we didn't have "choice" - we and many of our neighbors would probably be in good schools within walking distance of home. Instead we are in good schools that require a commute.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Fact remains if we didn't have "choice" - we and many of our neighbors would probably be in good schools within walking distance of home. Instead we are in good schools that require a commute.

ˆˆˆnot a fact. Somewhat of a fantasy

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Fact remains if we didn't have "choice" - we and many of our neighbors would probably be in good schools within walking distance of home. Instead we are in good schools that require a commute.

ˆˆˆnot a fact. Somewhat of a fantasy

Agree. Magical thinking.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Fact remains if we didn't have "choice" - we and many of our neighbors would probably be in good schools within walking distance of home. Instead we are in good schools that require a commute.

If we didn't have "choice," none of us would be in DC.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Fact remains if we didn't have "choice" - we and many of our neighbors would probably be in good schools within walking distance of home. Instead we are in good schools that require a commute.

If we didn't have "choice," none of us would be in DC.

But some would stay with reluctance - that would probably be us. Because let's face it: if our neighborhood schools looked like our neighborhoods we'd probably be going to them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Fact remains if we didn't have "choice" - we and many of our neighbors would probably be in good schools within walking distance of home. Instead we are in good schools that require a commute.

That is specific maybe to your small subsection of DC. If you had a big picture look of the city, you wouldn't be so clueless.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Fact remains if we didn't have "choice" - we and many of our neighbors would probably be in good schools within walking distance of home. Instead we are in good schools that require a commute.

If we didn't have "choice," none of us would be in DC.

None, nope that's not true. There were children in DCPS before you arrived inDC, and I'm pretty certain there will be children in attendance when you leave

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Fact remains if we didn't have "choice" - we and many of our neighbors would probably be in good schools within walking distance of home. Instead we are in good schools that require a commute.

If we didn't have "choice," none of us would be in DC.

But some would stay with reluctance - that would probably be us. Because let's face it: if our neighborhood schools looked like our neighborhoods we'd probably be going to them.

Brookland schools would be as good as Maury and Brent if the neighborhood students attended. So many of the neighborhood kids are chauffeured o their charters, mine included. So, I truly understand what you are saying PP.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Fact remains if we didn't have "choice" - we and many of our neighbors would probably be in good schools within walking distance of home. Instead we are in good schools that require a commute.

If we didn't have "choice," none of us would be in DC.

Wow. Stunning. Go back to Nebraska or wherever the hell you are from. You DO realize some of us actually ARE from Washington. This is why we hate you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Fact remains if we didn't have "choice" - we and many of our neighbors would probably be in good schools within walking distance of home. Instead we are in good schools that require a commute.

If we didn't have "choice," none of us would be in DC.

But some would stay with reluctance - that would probably be us. Because let's face it: if our neighborhood schools looked like our neighborhoods we'd probably be going to them.

Brookland schools would be as good as Maury and Brent if the neighborhood students attended. So many of the neighborhood kids are chauffeured o their charters, mine included. So, I truly understand what you are saying PP.

I can't speak for Maury but Brent would have been closed for lack of attendance if kids hadn't been allowed to attend OOB. so the OOB process probably saved it. And the reason it has Pre K 3 is because neighbors pointed out to DCPS that 2 Rivers had preK 3 so if DCPS wanted to compete it needed to provide the same. DCPS listened and started providing it and neighbors started to enroll. Now the school is predominately IB, but again, if it hadn't been for OOB process it would have closed for lack of students. The Brent boundary is so small and the few kids in the boundary were attending St Peters or Capitol Hill Day School. Arguably both OOB process and charter schools helped make Brent the successful neighborhood school it is today.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Fact remains if we didn't have "choice" - we and many of our neighbors would probably be in good schools within walking distance of home. Instead we are in good schools that require a commute.

If we didn't have "choice," none of us would be in DC.

But some would stay with reluctance - that would probably be us. Because let's face it: if our neighborhood schools looked like our neighborhoods we'd probably be going to them.

Brookland schools would be as good as Maury and Brent if the neighborhood students attended. So many of the neighborhood kids are chauffeured o their charters, mine included. So, I truly understand what you are saying PP.

I can't speak for Maury but Brent would have been closed for lack of attendance if kids hadn't been allowed to attend OOB. so the OOB process probably saved it. And the reason it has Pre K 3 is because neighbors pointed out to DCPS that 2 Rivers had preK 3 so if DCPS wanted to compete it needed to provide the same. DCPS listened and started providing it and neighbors started to enroll. Now the school is predominately IB, but again, if it hadn't been for OOB process it would have closed for lack of students. The Brent boundary is so small and the few kids in the boundary were attending St Peters or Capitol Hill Day School. Arguably both OOB process and charter schools helped make Brent the successful neighborhood school it is today.

Stop inserting facts and historical accuracy and context into the discussion. That's not fair to the people who have lived here for 10 minutes and/or think this is some academic public policy argument and/or live in Ward 3 and have no concept of what the rest of the city looks like.

[Anonymous]

I don't think the two alternatives presented by the OP present a fair picture of what's going on.

I think it's more accurate to say (for our family) that charters are keeping us in DC AND they are holding back our DCPS.

The charters are also (1) adding to the variety of academic programs that are available to us; (2) creating an incentive for DCPS to do better; and (3) illustrating for DCPS what parents want. Considering all of the above, I think they are good for the system as a whole, even though they are holding back our in boundary DCPS elementary school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don't think the two alternatives presented by the OP present a fair picture of what's going on.

I think it's more accurate to say (for our family) that charters are keeping us in DC AND they are holding back our DCPS.

The charters are also (1) adding to the variety of academic programs that are available to us; (2) creating an incentive for DCPS to do better; and (3) illustrating for DCPS what parents want. Considering all of the above, I think they are good for the system as a whole, even though they are holding back our in boundary DCPS elementary school.

on 2) -- the overall results are largely comparable between DCPS and charters. if charters are pushing DCPS to improve academically one would assume a larger differential on outcomes

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't think the two alternatives presented by the OP present a fair picture of what's going on.

I think it's more accurate to say (for our family) that charters are keeping us in DC AND they are holding back our DCPS.

The charters are also (1) adding to the variety of academic programs that are available to us; (2) creating an incentive for DCPS to do better; and (3) illustrating for DCPS what parents want. Considering all of the above, I think they are good for the system as a whole, even though they are holding back our in boundary DCPS elementary school.

on 2) -- the overall results are largely comparable between DCPS and charters. if charters are pushing DCPS to improve academically one would assume a larger differential on outcomes

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