New Year Eve's Coordinated Sexual Assault Attacks in Cologne

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The reports say that per the police, and what they have gathered so far, the men are North African from at least three different countries, but nobody from Syria, Iraq, or Afghanistan. No refugees, and not recent immigrants.
Per the police there are many asylum seekers among them, some already known to police, and they have been in the country for a longer time.
(Of course, one has to ask, why asylum seekers "known to the police" are still in the country!!!

The women were not merely touched inappropriately (as if that is not horrible enough) and robbed- the reports say that many are black and blue "on their breasts and behinds" - so this is a very physical, very brutal assault. And of course, there is that one report of rape as well.
Also, the police seems to be convinced that this was somehow organized.

At the same time, there were reportedly 150 police officers at and around the train station - it happened right under their noses - not good for the police department - or the population.

One article said a police woman was one of the people sexually assaulted.

These people do not have values that are compatible to a civilized society.

Neither did Germany for a stretch there back in the good ol' 20th century.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Importing poverty, illiteracy, violence, misogyny, and third world values. Sounds like a good plan Germany. Too bad all of the good German people have to be held hostage to the Merkel and her idiotic policies.

You obviously weren't paying attention. Germany and Norway offer "integration classes" that in the course of a couple of weekends teach people have to behave and root out all traces of illiteracy, violence, misogyny, and third world values in their new citizens.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The reports say that per the police, and what they have gathered so far, the men are North African from at least three different countries, but nobody from Syria, Iraq, or Afghanistan. No refugees, and not recent immigrants.
Per the police there are many asylum seekers among them, some already known to police, and they have been in the country for a longer time.
(Of course, one has to ask, why asylum seekers "known to the police" are still in the country!!!

The women were not merely touched inappropriately (as if that is not horrible enough) and robbed- the reports say that many are black and blue "on their breasts and behinds" - so this is a very physical, very brutal assault. And of course, there is that one report of rape as well.
Also, the police seems to be convinced that this was somehow organized.

At the same time, there were reportedly 150 police officers at and around the train station - it happened right under their noses - not good for the police department - or the population.

One article said a police woman was one of the people sexually assaulted.

These people do not have values that are compatible to a civilized society.

Who are "these people?"

The 500-1000 men who participated in the organized activity.

We'll, that's why we have jails and deportation, right?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The hyperbole in this thread is strong. First of all, so far all you have is rumors. And a picture of some "foreign" (aka not Arian) looking people gathered in a train station on NYE (which is bound to be incredibly crowded anyway). I have lived in Europe for many years and what is being described has been done by gypsies for many years (who, btw, are Christian). I also recall a few incidents involving teenagers doing the same thing in the US, even recently. So until we know more, I suggest not accusing the segment of the population that fits your narrative.

Gypsies don't run in throngs and throw themselves at you.

There may be two "working" as a pair, trying to scam people. But they don't grope you.

And they're sooo Christian. in name only . . . Give me a break.

PP, I spent most of my life in Eastern Europe, I know exactly what I am talking about.

I live in Eastern Europe right now, and I also know exactly what I am talking about: gypsies do NOT commit gang rapes and are not known for sexual violence. There are problems in the Roma community with theft, but NOT sex crimes. If you think otherwise, you didn't spend most of your life in Eastern Europe.

This is correct. -Former European resident

There was no gang rape committed in Cologne either. It was harassment. But yeah, hyperbole.

And LOL at gypsies are not known for sexual violence. They are, just like whites, and Asians, and middle easterners and every human race/nationality etc. is. Being part of a certain category does not automatically incriminate you nor exclude you from incrimination. But keep generalizing and extrapolating. And I call BS on the European residence, or you've been there a very short time.

Assault, as alleged, goes beyond harassment.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Importing poverty, illiteracy, violence, misogyny, and third world values. Sounds like a good plan Germany. Too bad all of the good German people have to be held hostage to the Merkel and her idiotic policies.

She seems like a strange woman, yes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The reports say that per the police, and what they have gathered so far, the men are North African from at least three different countries, but nobody from Syria, Iraq, or Afghanistan. No refugees, and not recent immigrants.
Per the police there are many asylum seekers among them, some already known to police, and they have been in the country for a longer time.
(Of course, one has to ask, why asylum seekers "known to the police" are still in the country!!!

The women were not merely touched inappropriately (as if that is not horrible enough) and robbed- the reports say that many are black and blue "on their breasts and behinds" - so this is a very physical, very brutal assault. And of course, there is that one report of rape as well.
Also, the police seems to be convinced that this was somehow organized.

At the same time, there were reportedly 150 police officers at and around the train station - it happened right under their noses - not good for the police department - or the population.

One article said a police woman was one of the people sexually assaulted.

These people do not have values that are compatible to a civilized society.

Who are "these people?"

The men from this night who believe this kind of behavior is acceptable.

And apparently people like you who make excuses for them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The reports say that per the police, and what they have gathered so far, the men are North African from at least three different countries, but nobody from Syria, Iraq, or Afghanistan. No refugees, and not recent immigrants.
Per the police there are many asylum seekers among them, some already known to police, and they have been in the country for a longer time.
(Of course, one has to ask, why asylum seekers "known to the police" are still in the country!!!

The women were not merely touched inappropriately (as if that is not horrible enough) and robbed- the reports say that many are black and blue "on their breasts and behinds" - so this is a very physical, very brutal assault. And of course, there is that one report of rape as well.
Also, the police seems to be convinced that this was somehow organized.

At the same time, there were reportedly 150 police officers at and around the train station - it happened right under their noses - not good for the police department - or the population.

One article said a police woman was one of the people sexually assaulted.

These people do not have values that are compatible to a civilized society.

Who are "these people?"

The men from this night who believe this kind of behavior is acceptable.

And apparently people like you who make excuses for them.

Simply amazing the effort people go through so that they do not have to confront uncomfortable truths

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The hyperbole in this thread is strong. First of all, so far all you have is rumors. And a picture of some "foreign" (aka not Arian) looking people gathered in a train station on NYE (which is bound to be incredibly crowded anyway). I have lived in Europe for many years and what is being described has been done by gypsies for many years (who, btw, are Christian). I also recall a few incidents involving teenagers doing the same thing in the US, even recently. So until we know more, I suggest not accusing the segment of the population that fits your narrative.

Yes but this has been reported in mainstream news outlets such as BBC and the NY Times. The descriptions by witnesses of the appearances of alleged participants have been placed in scare quotes, but the articles speak for themselves. This isn't something that can be Breitbarted away.

I will ask again. Is there any proof these people were refugees vs. EU citizens? What exactly does the description mean? Greeks can have the same look. So can Rroma people. So can Turks. Why are we jumping to refugees immediately?

Proof, as that term is commonly understood, is a matter for courts. But why, I must ask,do you want proof of their status? All are equal before the law. This focus on ethnicity bothers me.

Because the implication I see in this thread (and noted in that article) is that allowing the refugees in is what caused this.

Yes, that is the implication that some articles are strenuously avoiding. It's nonsensical -- it wasn't German men doing the assaulting.

If they are in the country legally, they are German men.

No, no, no. That's the way it works in the US but not Germany. Any child born in he US is automatically a citizen. Anybody who comes legally to the US and gets permanent residencies has a good chance of becoming a citizen in 5 years or so. If I go and move to Germany and have a child, my child is NOT a German citizen. If my non-citizen child grows up in Germany and has child, that child is not automatically granted citizenship. It is much more difficult to become a citizen of Germany if you have no German blood.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is an outrage. Something similar happened to me in Spain one new year's eve..there were groups of foreign men roaming in Barcelona and looking for victims., but this brings it to a new level.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/jan/05/germany-crisis-cologne-new-years-eve-sex-attacks

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/06/world/europe/coordinated-attacks-on-women-in-cologne-were-unprecedented-germany-says.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=first-column-region®ion=top-news&WT.nav=top-news

German police are investigating reports that scores of women were sexually assaulted and mugged in Cologne city centre during New Year’s Eve celebrations, in what a minister called a “completely new dimension of crime”.

Between 500 and 1,000 men described as drunk and aggressive are believed to have been behind the attacks on partygoers in the centre of the western German city. Whether they were working as a single group or in separate gangs remains unclear.

“Sexual crimes took place on a huge scale,” said the police president, Wolfgang Albers. “The crimes were committed by a group of people who from appearance were largely from the north African or Arab world

One of the victims, identified only as Katja L, told the Kölner Express: “When we came out of the station, we were very surprised by the group we met, which was made up only of foreign men … We walked through the group of men, there was a tunnel through them, we walked through … I was groped everywhere. It was a nightmare. Although we shouted and hit them, they men didn’t stop. I was horrified and I think I was touched around 100 times over the 200 metres.”

Now, now, let's not be so intolerant of others' cultural practices. If this is normal in certain cultures, and men of those not-to-be-named cultures are guests in western european societies, who are they to deny them their freedom of expression? Is that any way to treat people they have welcomed into their nation?
The Germans ought to be ashamed of their intolerance.

And what were the German men doing while their women were being assaulted ... rallying round the bar for another mug of Dortmunder Union?

[Anonymous]

I feel so sorry for the Germans now.

[Anonymous]

I'm all for inviting refugees but along with that should come the warning that if they should take advantage of our hospitality and so much as fart they will next find themselves being thrown out of an aircraft with a parachute over Syrian airspace.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm all for inviting refugees but along with that should come the warning that if they should take advantage of our hospitality and so much as fart they will next find themselves being thrown out of an aircraft with a parachute over Syrian airspace.

Well said.

[Anonymous]

And what were the German men doing while their women were being assaulted ... rallying round the bar for another mug of Dortmunder Union?

Sad to think that this was likely the mindset of the perpetrators; that women who dare to be out without male family escort "had it coming" to them.

[Anonymous]

I wonder when (or if) Trump will weigh in.

seems like a perfect opportunity for him!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I wonder when (or if) Trump will weigh in.

seems like a perfect opportunity for him!

Obsessed?