Spanking

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

And to everyone saying "My child doesn't respond to anything else." - you are wrong. You haven't done it right yet. I guarantee that any child on this planet can be raised properly without spanking. You have to want to put in the effort of course...

How incredibly condescending to those struggling with a difficult child.

I stand by what I posted. My entire post not just this snippet. No child deserves to be hit. No child needs to be hit in order to be parented. If you 'need' to hit you have bad parenting skills. Check yourself before you blame your kids. I don't care how appalled you act for being called out. There is NO child, no matter how difficult, who needs spanking to be disciplined. Get your parenting act together, do your research, get help if you need to but stop hitting your children. How anyone can seriously condemn violence between adults yet hit their own children is beyond me. How anyone can seriously say they are trying to teach their kids not to hit, have manners and be good people but use corporal punishment when parenting is beyond me.

You spanking parents have no clue how to parent properly or you would not be spanking your defenseless children. Disgusting. I am SO glad I was born and grew up in a country where spanking is not only illegal but detested by anyone even mildly intelligent.

Take a down a notch, sanctimommy? Children don't have same logic abilities or verbal abilities or self awareness as adults. Sometimes you need to spank to indicate that a behavior is unacceptable. It's akin to training puppies. It works, but if you don't like it - don't do it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

And to everyone saying "My child doesn't respond to anything else." - you are wrong. You haven't done it right yet. I guarantee that any child on this planet can be raised properly without spanking. You have to want to put in the effort of course...

How incredibly condescending to those struggling with a difficult child.

I stand by what I posted. My entire post not just this snippet. No child deserves to be hit. No child needs to be hit in order to be parented. If you 'need' to hit you have bad parenting skills. Check yourself before you blame your kids. I don't care how appalled you act for being called out. There is NO child, no matter how difficult, who needs spanking to be disciplined. Get your parenting act together, do your research, get help if you need to but stop hitting your children. How anyone can seriously condemn violence between adults yet hit their own children is beyond me. How anyone can seriously say they are trying to teach their kids not to hit, have manners and be good people but use corporal punishment when parenting is beyond me.

You spanking parents have no clue how to parent properly or you would not be spanking your defenseless children. Disgusting. I am SO glad I was born and grew up in a country where spanking is not only illegal but detested by anyone even mildly intelligent.

Take a down a notch, sanctimommy? Children don't have same logic abilities or verbal abilities or self awareness as adults. Sometimes you need to spank to indicate that a behavior is unacceptable. It's akin to training puppies. It works, but if you don't like it - don't do it.

You spank your children then? You are disgusting. I am usually a VERY calm and collected poster no matter how hairy the subject on DCUM...but spanking is a whole different level of wrong. You are comparing your children to puppies then? And you are surprised why I judge you? Parents who spank and after being called out even defend spanking are disgusting. There is no nice, polite, politically correct words for parents who hurt their children intentionally. There just aren't.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How old is the child, OP? A three or four year old being a holy terror, not being able to go out to eat, hitting, is unfortunate but not out of the realm of normal. But that isn't average behavior for a 6 year old, and if you child is school age (even preschool) I think its time to talk to the teachers and see what is up. Maybe your kid needs some help with emotional regulation and impulsivity. If so, spanking really won't help, because it doesn't teach those things. Your kid can't exercise control he doesn't yet have. So my first step in your case wouldn't be to decide on how to punish, but to figure out what is going on with your guy. Start with the pediatrician and the teachers.

3 and it was the teachers that declared it a problem. I thought this was how all 3 year olds behave-op

Is he like this at home? How do you handle?

On occasion. But rarely. Bad behaviors they say were nipped immediately at home. As the year has progressed no behaviors )the hitting )
started. This is rare at home and much more frequent at school (3-5 days a week) .not acceptable.-op

Does he like going to school? Is it always the same child(ren) or teacher? Is there any teasing, from or to him prior to the hitting?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

And to everyone saying "My child doesn't respond to anything else." - you are wrong. You haven't done it right yet. I guarantee that any child on this planet can be raised properly without spanking. You have to want to put in the effort of course...

How incredibly condescending to those struggling with a difficult child.

I stand by what I posted. My entire post not just this snippet. No child deserves to be hit. No child needs to be hit in order to be parented. If you 'need' to hit you have bad parenting skills. Check yourself before you blame your kids. I don't care how appalled you act for being called out. There is NO child, no matter how difficult, who needs spanking to be disciplined. Get your parenting act together, do your research, get help if you need to but stop hitting your children. How anyone can seriously condemn violence between adults yet hit their own children is beyond me. How anyone can seriously say they are trying to teach their kids not to hit, have manners and be good people but use corporal punishment when parenting is beyond me.

You spanking parents have no clue how to parent properly or you would not be spanking your defenseless children. Disgusting. I am SO glad I was born and grew up in a country where spanking is not only illegal but detested by anyone even mildly intelligent.

Take a down a notch, sanctimommy? Children don't have same logic abilities or verbal abilities or self awareness as adults. Sometimes you need to spank to indicate that a behavior is unacceptable. It's akin to training puppies. It works, but if you don't like it - don't do it.

You spank your children then? You are disgusting. I am usually a VERY calm and collected poster no matter how hairy the subject on DCUM...but spanking is a whole different level of wrong. You are comparing your children to puppies then? And you are surprised why I judge you? Parents who spank and after being called out even defend spanking are disgusting. There is no nice, polite, politically correct words for parents who hurt their children intentionally. There just aren't.

NP. I spank my children. It's a reasonable form of punishment, as long as you do it rationally and don't go overboard (same as timeouts-, for that matter). Your condemnation is emotional but not based on sound reasoning.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

And to everyone saying "My child doesn't respond to anything else." - you are wrong. You haven't done it right yet. I guarantee that any child on this planet can be raised properly without spanking. You have to want to put in the effort of course...

How incredibly condescending to those struggling with a difficult child.

I stand by what I posted. My entire post not just this snippet. No child deserves to be hit. No child needs to be hit in order to be parented. If you 'need' to hit you have bad parenting skills. Check yourself before you blame your kids. I don't care how appalled you act for being called out. There is NO child, no matter how difficult, who needs spanking to be disciplined. Get your parenting act together, do your research, get help if you need to but stop hitting your children. How anyone can seriously condemn violence between adults yet hit their own children is beyond me. How anyone can seriously say they are trying to teach their kids not to hit, have manners and be good people but use corporal punishment when parenting is beyond me.

You spanking parents have no clue how to parent properly or you would not be spanking your defenseless children. Disgusting. I am SO glad I was born and grew up in a country where spanking is not only illegal but detested by anyone even mildly intelligent.

Mine are beyond the spanking age. Not everyone spanks to teach not to hit. You can go ahead and be disgusted, appalled and whatever else, you can even *gasp* judge me. I stand by what I posted, too.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How old is the child, OP? A three or four year old being a holy terror, not being able to go out to eat, hitting, is unfortunate but not out of the realm of normal. But that isn't average behavior for a 6 year old, and if you child is school age (even preschool) I think its time to talk to the teachers and see what is up. Maybe your kid needs some help with emotional regulation and impulsivity. If so, spanking really won't help, because it doesn't teach those things. Your kid can't exercise control he doesn't yet have. So my first step in your case wouldn't be to decide on how to punish, but to figure out what is going on with your guy. Start with the pediatrician and the teachers.

3 and it was the teachers that declared it a problem. I thought this was how all 3 year olds behave-op

Is he like this at home? How do you handle?

On occasion. But rarely. Bad behaviors they say were nipped immediately at home. As the year has progressed no behaviors )the hitting )
started. This is rare at home and much more frequent at school (3-5 days a week) .not acceptable.-op

Does he like going to school? Is it always the same child(ren) or teacher? Is there any teasing, from or to him prior to the hitting?

I think so. But he does feel he is a bad boy now. The hitting aggression comes out when he is reprimand for another thing. For example being silly at lunch gets your removed fromthe table. He hits teacher in response. Also, when he feels he is wronged (like when someone else starts a scuffle but he steps in/ or defends himself, or joins in silliness) we think he is the one that gets caught. There is a bit of labeling going on as well. But hitting an adult that is not hurting you is just not acceptable.
Another poster asked what my thought was swat in response to a hit was a demonstration of this hurts me. - op

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How old is the child, OP? A three or four year old being a holy terror, not being able to go out to eat, hitting, is unfortunate but not out of the realm of normal. But that isn't average behavior for a 6 year old, and if you child is school age (even preschool) I think its time to talk to the teachers and see what is up. Maybe your kid needs some help with emotional regulation and impulsivity. If so, spanking really won't help, because it doesn't teach those things. Your kid can't exercise control he doesn't yet have. So my first step in your case wouldn't be to decide on how to punish, but to figure out what is going on with your guy. Start with the pediatrician and the teachers.

3 and it was the teachers that declared it a problem. I thought this was how all 3 year olds behave-op

Is he like this at home? How do you handle?

On occasion. But rarely. Bad behaviors they say were nipped immediately at home. As the year has progressed no behaviors )the hitting )
started. This is rare at home and much more frequent at school (3-5 days a week) .not acceptable.-op

OP, speaking as a teacher, if the behaviors are happening at school and not at home, then there is something going on at school that is the problem. Not that you shouldn't respond to problems at school, but hitting a three year old a couple of hours after an incident at school won't do much because the length of time between the problem and punishment is too long for a three year old. The teachers should have positive discipline methods that they are using. It's also possible your child would benefit from some skills training. Ross Greene's website has some useful info.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How old is the child, OP? A three or four year old being a holy terror, not being able to go out to eat, hitting, is unfortunate but not out of the realm of normal. But that isn't average behavior for a 6 year old, and if you child is school age (even preschool) I think its time to talk to the teachers and see what is up. Maybe your kid needs some help with emotional regulation and impulsivity. If so, spanking really won't help, because it doesn't teach those things. Your kid can't exercise control he doesn't yet have. So my first step in your case wouldn't be to decide on how to punish, but to figure out what is going on with your guy. Start with the pediatrician and the teachers.

3 and it was the teachers that declared it a problem. I thought this was how all 3 year olds behave-op

Is he like this at home? How do you handle?

On occasion. But rarely. Bad behaviors they say were nipped immediately at home. As the year has progressed no behaviors )the hitting )
started. This is rare at home and much more frequent at school (3-5 days a week) .not acceptable.-op

OP, speaking as a teacher, if the behaviors are happening at school and not at home, then there is something going on at school that is the problem. Not that you shouldn't respond to problems at school, but hitting a three year old a couple of hours after an incident at school won't do much because the length of time between the problem and punishment is too long for a three year old. The teachers should have positive discipline methods that they are using. It's also possible your child would benefit from some skills training. Ross Greene's website has some useful info.

It sounds like you need to get him out of that teacher's class. If she wants him out, is labelling him (and looking for bad behavior), it doesn't matter how much progress he makes, he will still get in trouble with her. Honestly, try finding a new preschool, be upfront with them about the issues he's been facing and what you've been doing. Ask the preschool to contact the old teacher and talk to her about his behavior and the steps the teacher took (it might turn out that the new preschool is just as confused about why the teacher wasn't willing to work with him).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How old is the child, OP? A three or four year old being a holy terror, not being able to go out to eat, hitting, is unfortunate but not out of the realm of normal. But that isn't average behavior for a 6 year old, and if you child is school age (even preschool) I think its time to talk to the teachers and see what is up. Maybe your kid needs some help with emotional regulation and impulsivity. If so, spanking really won't help, because it doesn't teach those things. Your kid can't exercise control he doesn't yet have. So my first step in your case wouldn't be to decide on how to punish, but to figure out what is going on with your guy. Start with the pediatrician and the teachers.

3 and it was the teachers that declared it a problem. I thought this was how all 3 year olds behave-op

Is he like this at home? How do you handle?

On occasion. But rarely. Bad behaviors they say were nipped immediately at home. As the year has progressed no behaviors )the hitting )
started. This is rare at home and much more frequent at school (3-5 days a week) .not acceptable.-op

OP, speaking as a teacher, if the behaviors are happening at school and not at home, then there is something going on at school that is the problem. Not that you shouldn't respond to problems at school, but hitting a three year old a couple of hours after an incident at school won't do much because the length of time between the problem and punishment is too long for a three year old. The teachers should have positive discipline methods that they are using. It's also possible your child would benefit from some skills training. Ross Greene's website has some useful info.

Searching Ross website now. Thank you. I dont hit hours after. Bad behvior at school results in a talking to and taking away of something he might like to do. Hit is only when he hits me....or at least that was the plan

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How old is the child, OP? A three or four year old being a holy terror, not being able to go out to eat, hitting, is unfortunate but not out of the realm of normal. But that isn't average behavior for a 6 year old, and if you child is school age (even preschool) I think its time to talk to the teachers and see what is up. Maybe your kid needs some help with emotional regulation and impulsivity. If so, spanking really won't help, because it doesn't teach those things. Your kid can't exercise control he doesn't yet have. So my first step in your case wouldn't be to decide on how to punish, but to figure out what is going on with your guy. Start with the pediatrician and the teachers.

3 and it was the teachers that declared it a problem. I thought this was how all 3 year olds behave-op

Is he like this at home? How do you handle?

On occasion. But rarely. Bad behaviors they say were nipped immediately at home. As the year has progressed no behaviors )the hitting )
started. This is rare at home and much more frequent at school (3-5 days a week) .not acceptable.-op

OP, speaking as a teacher, if the behaviors are happening at school and not at home, then there is something going on at school that is the problem. Not that you shouldn't respond to problems at school, but hitting a three year old a couple of hours after an incident at school won't do much because the length of time between the problem and punishment is too long for a three year old. The teachers should have positive discipline methods that they are using. It's also possible your child would benefit from some skills training. Ross Greene's website has some useful info.

Searching Ross website now. Thank you. I dont hit hours after. Bad behvior at school results in a talking to and taking away of something he might like to do. Hit is only when he hits me....or at least that was the plan

- op

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

And to everyone saying "My child doesn't respond to anything else." - you are wrong. You haven't done it right yet. I guarantee that any child on this planet can be raised properly without spanking. You have to want to put in the effort of course...

How incredibly condescending to those struggling with a difficult child.

I stand by what I posted. My entire post not just this snippet. No child deserves to be hit. No child needs to be hit in order to be parented. If you 'need' to hit you have bad parenting skills. Check yourself before you blame your kids. I don't care how appalled you act for being called out. There is NO child, no matter how difficult, who needs spanking to be disciplined. Get your parenting act together, do your research, get help if you need to but stop hitting your children. How anyone can seriously condemn violence between adults yet hit their own children is beyond me. How anyone can seriously say they are trying to teach their kids not to hit, have manners and be good people but use corporal punishment when parenting is beyond me.

You spanking parents have no clue how to parent properly or you would not be spanking your defenseless children. Disgusting. I am SO glad I was born and grew up in a country where spanking is not only illegal but detested by anyone even mildly intelligent.

Take a down a notch, sanctimommy? Children don't have same logic abilities or verbal abilities or self awareness as adults. Sometimes you need to spank to indicate that a behavior is unacceptable. It's akin to training puppies. It works, but if you don't like it - don't do it.

You spank your children then? You are disgusting. I am usually a VERY calm and collected poster no matter how hairy the subject on DCUM...but spanking is a whole different level of wrong. You are comparing your children to puppies then? And you are surprised why I judge you? Parents who spank and after being called out even defend spanking are disgusting. There is no nice, polite, politically correct words for parents who hurt their children intentionally. There just aren't.

NP. I spank my children. It's a reasonable form of punishment, as long as you do it rationally and don't go overboard (same as timeouts-, for that matter). Your condemnation is emotional but not based on sound reasoning.

It's not a reasonable form of punishment. Which intelligent person could seriously think that? Is it reasonable for police officers to hit prisoners? Is it reasonable for men to hit their spouses? Is it reasonable for women to hit their spouses? Is it reasonable for teenagers to hit their classmates? Yet somehow some people still believe it is reasonable for parents to hit their children. My condemnation is based on intense emotions as well as VERY sound reasoning. There are so many studies done and expert opinions out there as well as so many countries making spanking illegal that you can not seriously walk around today and claim spanking is the proper way to raise children.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

And to everyone saying "My child doesn't respond to anything else." - you are wrong. You haven't done it right yet. I guarantee that any child on this planet can be raised properly without spanking. You have to want to put in the effort of course...

How incredibly condescending to those struggling with a difficult child.

I stand by what I posted. My entire post not just this snippet. No child deserves to be hit. No child needs to be hit in order to be parented. If you 'need' to hit you have bad parenting skills. Check yourself before you blame your kids. I don't care how appalled you act for being called out. There is NO child, no matter how difficult, who needs spanking to be disciplined. Get your parenting act together, do your research, get help if you need to but stop hitting your children. How anyone can seriously condemn violence between adults yet hit their own children is beyond me. How anyone can seriously say they are trying to teach their kids not to hit, have manners and be good people but use corporal punishment when parenting is beyond me.

You spanking parents have no clue how to parent properly or you would not be spanking your defenseless children. Disgusting. I am SO glad I was born and grew up in a country where spanking is not only illegal but detested by anyone even mildly intelligent.

Take a down a notch, sanctimommy? Children don't have same logic abilities or verbal abilities or self awareness as adults. Sometimes you need to spank to indicate that a behavior is unacceptable. It's akin to training puppies. It works, but if you don't like it - don't do it.

You spank your children then? You are disgusting. I am usually a VERY calm and collected poster no matter how hairy the subject on DCUM...but spanking is a whole different level of wrong. You are comparing your children to puppies then? And you are surprised why I judge you? Parents who spank and after being called out even defend spanking are disgusting. There is no nice, polite, politically correct words for parents who hurt their children intentionally. There just aren't.

NP. I spank my children. It's a reasonable form of punishment, as long as you do it rationally and don't go overboard (same as timeouts-, for that matter). Your condemnation is emotional but not based on sound reasoning.

It's not a reasonable form of punishment. Which intelligent person could seriously think that? Is it reasonable for police officers to hit prisoners? Is it reasonable for men to hit their spouses? Is it reasonable for women to hit their spouses? Is it reasonable for teenagers to hit their classmates? Yet somehow some people still believe it is reasonable for parents to hit their children. My condemnation is based on intense emotions as well as VERY sound reasoning. There are so many studies done and expert opinions out there as well as so many countries making spanking illegal that you can not seriously walk around today and claim spanking is the proper way to raise children.

Parent/child relationship is not anywhere near the same as those relationships. No one is responsible for another adult; parents are responsible for children. If a spouse does something that the other spouse doesn't like, the spouse can divorce. Parents can't divorce their kids.

Society doesn't have the same expectations of behavior that we have on adults. Parents are expected to have some control and responsibility over their kids in our society. We don't expect for a husband and wife in this country to have the same type of relationship that a parent and child has.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

And to everyone saying "My child doesn't respond to anything else." - you are wrong. You haven't done it right yet. I guarantee that any child on this planet can be raised properly without spanking. You have to want to put in the effort of course...

How incredibly condescending to those struggling with a difficult child.

I stand by what I posted. My entire post not just this snippet. No child deserves to be hit. No child needs to be hit in order to be parented. If you 'need' to hit you have bad parenting skills. Check yourself before you blame your kids. I don't care how appalled you act for being called out. There is NO child, no matter how difficult, who needs spanking to be disciplined. Get your parenting act together, do your research, get help if you need to but stop hitting your children. How anyone can seriously condemn violence between adults yet hit their own children is beyond me. How anyone can seriously say they are trying to teach their kids not to hit, have manners and be good people but use corporal punishment when parenting is beyond me.

You spanking parents have no clue how to parent properly or you would not be spanking your defenseless children. Disgusting. I am SO glad I was born and grew up in a country where spanking is not only illegal but detested by anyone even mildly intelligent.

Take a down a notch, sanctimommy? Children don't have same logic abilities or verbal abilities or self awareness as adults. Sometimes you need to spank to indicate that a behavior is unacceptable. It's akin to training puppies. It works, but if you don't like it - don't do it.

You spank your children then? You are disgusting. I am usually a VERY calm and collected poster no matter how hairy the subject on DCUM...but spanking is a whole different level of wrong. You are comparing your children to puppies then? And you are surprised why I judge you? Parents who spank and after being called out even defend spanking are disgusting. There is no nice, polite, politically correct words for parents who hurt their children intentionally. There just aren't.

NP. I spank my children. It's a reasonable form of punishment, as long as you do it rationally and don't go overboard (same as timeouts-, for that matter). Your condemnation is emotional but not based on sound reasoning.

It's not a reasonable form of punishment. Which intelligent person could seriously think that? Is it reasonable for police officers to hit prisoners? Is it reasonable for men to hit their spouses? Is it reasonable for women to hit their spouses? Is it reasonable for teenagers to hit their classmates? Yet somehow some people still believe it is reasonable for parents to hit their children. My condemnation is based on intense emotions as well as VERY sound reasoning. There are so many studies done and expert opinions out there as well as so many countries making spanking illegal that you can not seriously walk around today and claim spanking is the proper way to raise children.

Parent/child relationship is not anywhere near the same as those relationships. No one is responsible for another adult; parents are responsible for children. If a spouse does something that the other spouse doesn't like, the spouse can divorce. Parents can't divorce their kids.

Society doesn't have the same expectations of behavior that we have on adults. Parents are expected to have some control and responsibility over their kids in our society. We don't expect for a husband and wife in this country to have the same type of relationship that a parent and child has.

You are right. Nothing is quite the same as the relationship between a parent and a child. Children are innocent. They are vulnerable. They depend absolutely on their parents. They can not fend for themselves. They can not defend themselves. They can not just leave, they are stuck with their parents until they grow up. As a parent abusing that relationship, that dependency, that trust by hurting your child is despicable. Sorry but your 'point' really only proves even more that parents should NEVER hit their children.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

And to everyone saying "My child doesn't respond to anything else." - you are wrong. You haven't done it right yet. I guarantee that any child on this planet can be raised properly without spanking. You have to want to put in the effort of course...

How incredibly condescending to those struggling with a difficult child.

I stand by what I posted. My entire post not just this snippet. No child deserves to be hit. No child needs to be hit in order to be parented. If you 'need' to hit you have bad parenting skills. Check yourself before you blame your kids. I don't care how appalled you act for being called out. There is NO child, no matter how difficult, who needs spanking to be disciplined. Get your parenting act together, do your research, get help if you need to but stop hitting your children. How anyone can seriously condemn violence between adults yet hit their own children is beyond me. How anyone can seriously say they are trying to teach their kids not to hit, have manners and be good people but use corporal punishment when parenting is beyond me.

You spanking parents have no clue how to parent properly or you would not be spanking your defenseless children. Disgusting. I am SO glad I was born and grew up in a country where spanking is not only illegal but detested by anyone even mildly intelligent.

Take a down a notch, sanctimommy? Children don't have same logic abilities or verbal abilities or self awareness as adults. Sometimes you need to spank to indicate that a behavior is unacceptable. It's akin to training puppies. It works, but if you don't like it - don't do it.

You spank your children then? You are disgusting. I am usually a VERY calm and collected poster no matter how hairy the subject on DCUM...but spanking is a whole different level of wrong. You are comparing your children to puppies then? And you are surprised why I judge you? Parents who spank and after being called out even defend spanking are disgusting. There is no nice, polite, politically correct words for parents who hurt their children intentionally. There just aren't.

NP. I spank my children. It's a reasonable form of punishment, as long as you do it rationally and don't go overboard (same as timeouts-, for that matter). Your condemnation is emotional but not based on sound reasoning.

It's not a reasonable form of punishment. Which intelligent person could seriously think that? Is it reasonable for police officers to hit prisoners? Is it reasonable for men to hit their spouses? Is it reasonable for women to hit their spouses? Is it reasonable for teenagers to hit their classmates? Yet somehow some people still believe it is reasonable for parents to hit their children. My condemnation is based on intense emotions as well as VERY sound reasoning. There are so many studies done and expert opinions out there as well as so many countries making spanking illegal that you can not seriously walk around today and claim spanking is the proper way to raise children.

but it is ok for parents to handcuff children because prison guards do it to prisoners? please stop with nonsensical analogies.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

And to everyone saying "My child doesn't respond to anything else." - you are wrong. You haven't done it right yet. I guarantee that any child on this planet can be raised properly without spanking. You have to want to put in the effort of course...

How incredibly condescending to those struggling with a difficult child.

I stand by what I posted. My entire post not just this snippet. No child deserves to be hit. No child needs to be hit in order to be parented. If you 'need' to hit you have bad parenting skills. Check yourself before you blame your kids. I don't care how appalled you act for being called out. There is NO child, no matter how difficult, who needs spanking to be disciplined. Get your parenting act together, do your research, get help if you need to but stop hitting your children. How anyone can seriously condemn violence between adults yet hit their own children is beyond me. How anyone can seriously say they are trying to teach their kids not to hit, have manners and be good people but use corporal punishment when parenting is beyond me.

You spanking parents have no clue how to parent properly or you would not be spanking your defenseless children. Disgusting. I am SO glad I was born and grew up in a country where spanking is not only illegal but detested by anyone even mildly intelligent.

Take a down a notch, sanctimommy? Children don't have same logic abilities or verbal abilities or self awareness as adults. Sometimes you need to spank to indicate that a behavior is unacceptable. It's akin to training puppies. It works, but if you don't like it - don't do it.

You spank your children then? You are disgusting. I am usually a VERY calm and collected poster no matter how hairy the subject on DCUM...but spanking is a whole different level of wrong. You are comparing your children to puppies then? And you are surprised why I judge you? Parents who spank and after being called out even defend spanking are disgusting. There is no nice, polite, politically correct words for parents who hurt their children intentionally. There just aren't.

NP. I spank my children. It's a reasonable form of punishment, as long as you do it rationally and don't go overboard (same as timeouts-, for that matter). Your condemnation is emotional but not based on sound reasoning.

It's not a reasonable form of punishment. Which intelligent person could seriously think that? Is it reasonable for police officers to hit prisoners? Is it reasonable for men to hit their spouses? Is it reasonable for women to hit their spouses? Is it reasonable for teenagers to hit their classmates? Yet somehow some people still believe it is reasonable for parents to hit their children. My condemnation is based on intense emotions as well as VERY sound reasoning. There are so many studies done and expert opinions out there as well as so many countries making spanking illegal that you can not seriously walk around today and claim spanking is the proper way to raise children.

but it is ok for parents to handcuff children because prison guards do it to prisoners? please stop with nonsensical analogies.

Please stop making a post about something it isn't about just because you have no point and have to resort to twisting words and meanings around. And also...please stop with nonsensical punishment of children.