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Anonymous
| I am one of several "perennial anti NCS" posters on other threads but I have not posted on this thread until now and I won't again so if you are blaming me look elsewhere. Actually I think the posts in this thread while critical have been fairly balanced. No one is saying this is solely a problem for the Cathedral schools only that they haven't handled it well. |
Anonymous
| NCS and STA can't police these parties where these things are allegedly occurring. All I have to say is parent your children and know where they are going. I am glad they are addressing this at school, especially sta since I think a lot of this comes from reprehensible behavior and treatment of women on their end. |
Anonymous
| What parent would serve alcohol to high school sophomores? As a parent I am astounded. As a lawyer I am surprised those parents don't fear being arrested. |
Anonymous
| Your schools' parents need to stop hashing this out anonymously - with innuendo and veiled allegations - and instead have the resolve and strength of your convictions to approach the involved parties and everyone at your school who will listen, in person, to work on these issues going forward. |
Anonymous
| Summary of previous three comments, Shut Up! |
Anonymous
PP above, I think you are way over simplifying in your post when you say " I don't agree with single sex education….these types of problems can occur with a lack of respect and understanding for the opposite gender" in that you seem to be linking single sex education with a lack of understanding of the opposite sex. Really ? I am sorry, but I can think of many more influences on teens then where thye spend 6 hours a day 6 months a year. Where do they spend 18 hours a day and where do they spend 24 hours a day for 3 months of the year ? Not at school….. First , an overall observation: the school you are referencing has a few borders, but the overwhelming majority of boys and teens attending live at home in a household with a mother and likely even a few sisters and go home to the same household EVERY NIGHT. In other words, it is hardy the case that a student at this school lacks exposure or "understanding of the opposite sex" as you call it ( stemming from same) More to the point, it seems a bit more than a looong….. stretch this lack of knowledge has ANYTHING to do with the fact that from 8AM- 3pm each day they have 70% of their classes without girls present. ( they practice with them on co-ed teams after school , have co-ed literature and STEM class and co-ed theatre productions with them . So, I think your linkage is a bit off. STA is not some isolated seminary off in rural America somewhere where your supposition might have some credence. Secondly, did you really mean to suggest boys and men everywhere have " an understanding of women" , except at STA? Really ?? I am over 50 and have had lots of life experience with men in all roles: boyfriends, professors, employers, co-workers, lovers and I have to say that " having a good understanding of women" is something that most men work on their entire lives. For most, it is a HUGE accomplishmnet if they " understand" one woman as the 50% divorce rate seems to support. Aren't you projecting a bit of judgement on 15 year olds and isn't it a bit narrow to say the problem in 6 hours of single sex class instruction. Here is what I think : teen agers and kids today share WAY too much on the Internet. THey do not have as a healthy of personal boundaries as past generations and this is an example of what happens. To the school's credit they have told them this in an immediately called closed meeting with all students involved. Really, this is a parent's role and responsibility to tecah " respect for the opposite sex" , it is not primarily a school's responsibility. A teen's conduct reflects primarily on THEM and thier parents values far more than the school's. Yet, to their credit, the school has addressed the issue with both the boys and the girls. Do boys objectify girls ? Undoubtedly some do. Is it immoral? Yes, it is. Does this particular school counsel against that ? Yes, it does and yes it has. Where are the parents ? Sorry, but the school places great academic demands on their students and then grades them as to if they meet the standards . They also suspend and expel. What consequecnes do parents set ? How and WHEN do they check in to see how their son or daughter is developing socially ? To me, that is a parents job. PERIOD. Lastly, I see no time was wasted by WAPO or those posting this on DCUM to shine the spot light on a prominent school. What is the motivation behind that really ?? Let's be honest. Doubtfull adults can teach teens "respect", and "common decency" when they seem to lack it themselves. Sorry , but choosing to use vulnerable teens as newspaper fodder on the web is , in my opinion, beneath the code of decency in publishing. THey are NOT interested in this story for a " dialogue" on gender issues and sexuality issues. In my opinion, it was posted because of the school , not the greater issue. WAPO is welcome to prove me wrong and here is how they can do it: I would like to see WAPO survey all teens in a cross section of schools in DC/MD/NOVA about their attitudes towards opposite sex and their experiences with same and publish, not the details , but the data . You know, lets poll all teens : public schools in low income and high income areas, charter schools, and lets not forget the " home schooled" and , see if there is really a " trend" at all. Or are we not sincere in our interest in that after all??? |
Anonymous
Suffice it to say, this is not Ed Bradley's Washington Post. Its salacious and teh motivation, in my opinion, is webshare desperation by a publication that has closed just about every foreign bureau and cut back on every bit of editing it can and is relying on 20 something bloggers to keep it " in the news" |
Anonymous
News flash. They are lawyers serving liquor and lawyers ok with their kids drinking it. And those kids arent thrown out, the school recommends them for ivies and they get in. It's demoralizing for the kids who abide by the rules. This is why people hate NCS!! |
Anonymous
It's not Ben Bradlee's Washington Post either. |
Anonymous
Ben would not have published this non-story. |
Anonymous
| Yes because women being abused isn't newsworthy for him. Thank god things have changed |
Anonymous
It would not have been a non-story if it had been about sexual assault, parent-provided alcohol at high school parties, and non-responsive school administrations at NCS and St. Albans, instead of about letters from school administrators at NCS and St. Albans. |
Anonymous
| But that is the underlying story and everyone knows it. |
Anonymous
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This whole thread is a joke. People bashing schools for no reason, people bashing the Post, people even bashing their anonymous fellow posters.
Here's the scoop. This stuff is in the news (UVA etc). NCS talks to their seniors about life in college, sexuality, alcohol, etc. The sophomore girls create on their own a document that anyone can anonymously contribute to which details some of the stuff that has happened to them sexually. STA boys did not have access to this document. Boys were supposedly named. Girls could write whatever they wanted; boys could not defend themselves whether they are indeed guilty or perhaps innocent. No one knows who has seen or not seen the document. Lots of guessing about what it contains, some say the "worst" thing is making out, others have heard it includes oral sex. Until it too is leaked to the WaPo, you can all keep guessing. Both classes have had members drunk at parties for a few years now. The girls in this class have a reputation for drinking (not all of them of course!). This -- and any mode of dress -- does not make any unwanted sexual advances appropriate or warranted! Yet since some of what was chronicled occurred when the girls were drunk, no one wanted the documents public or the girls named either. That the google doc existed was leaked and boys responded, trying to defend themselves. Soon the administrations of both schools, which do monitor social media behavior, stepped in to help sort it all out. Saying that there is some kind of problem with this grade at either school is ridiculous as this is not unique to this grade or to either school. This is teenage America -- everywhere. The boys and girls who leave the Cathedral schools before 9th grade usually leave for academic reasons as these schools may not be the right fit, some go to prep schools, some switch gear for sports reasons, etc. Using the natural attrition as some evidence for bad behavior is again ridiculous. Anyone who has anything to say about these CHILDREN should step out of the anonymous posting and go to either school with their concerns. I believe wholeheartedly that both schools would be receptive and listen. How they have handled this situation speaks to the fact that they are both taking it seriously and want the PARENTS (and not anonymous posters nor Washington Post reporters who were leaked the letters) to help further the discussion to ensure everyone is on the same page: there needs to be a proper platform to discuss such issues; parents need to talk to their kids and also be a bit more responsible with regard to parties and drinking; and the whole issue will be dealt with as both schools learn more and understand more. |
Anonymous
So why isn't the Post reporting on that? |