Ted Cruz Booed Off Stage by Arab Christians

[jsteele]

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You, Jeff, are coming from a position of understanding of Hamas and Hezbollah. That's why you can't see it - won't see it. Might I suggest you watch Evan Sayet's video 'How Liberals Think'. You just might see yourself in his words

You repeatedly mentioned that the diplomat walked out. What was significant about that? This is not a hard question. Why can't you answer it?

I did. Please read

Where, please point out the post?

[Anonymous]

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why was he offended by Cruz? Because he hates Jews and Israel. When someone is a diplomat and behaves like that, he needs to go

He was offended because he represents a country that has been repeatedly attacked by Israel and Cruz called Israel the greatest friend of Christians. As a diplomat, he has to represent all Lebanese and -- as was seen -- not even the Christians consider Israel their greatest friend. But, you once again avoided explaining what you think was significant about his leaving.

Walking out as a diplomat isn't very...diplomatic

[jsteele]

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why was he offended by Cruz? Because he hates Jews and Israel. When someone is a diplomat and behaves like that, he needs to go

He was offended because he represents a country that has been repeatedly attacked by Israel and Cruz called Israel the greatest friend of Christians. As a diplomat, he has to represent all Lebanese and -- as was seen -- not even the Christians consider Israel their greatest friend. But, you once again avoided explaining what you think was significant about his leaving.

Walking out as a diplomat isn't very...diplomatic

You should tell that to US and Israeli diplomats who constantly walk out of the UN when leaders they don't like get up to speak.

What did you say was significant about the diplomat's leaving?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why was he offended by Cruz? Because he hates Jews and Israel. When someone is a diplomat and behaves like that, he needs to go

He was offended because he represents a country that has been repeatedly attacked by Israel and Cruz called Israel the greatest friend of Christians. As a diplomat, he has to represent all Lebanese and -- as was seen -- not even the Christians consider Israel their greatest friend. But, you once again avoided explaining what you think was significant about his leaving.

Walking out as a diplomat isn't very...diplomatic

No, it's not. Cruz's speech wasn't very stateman-like, either. Or very Christian.

The event was something of a debacle. But it would have been fine if they'd had a different keynote speaker.

[Anonymous]

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why was he offended by Cruz? Because he hates Jews and Israel. When someone is a diplomat and behaves like that, he needs to go

He was offended because he represents a country that has been repeatedly attacked by Israel and Cruz called Israel the greatest friend of Christians. As a diplomat, he has to represent all Lebanese and -- as was seen -- not even the Christians consider Israel their greatest friend. But, you once again avoided explaining what you think was significant about his leaving.

Walking out as a diplomat isn't very...diplomatic

You should tell that to US and Israeli diplomats who constantly walk out of the UN when leaders they don't like get up to speak.

What did you say was significant about the diplomat's leaving?

You don't engage with terrorists. Period.

Can you tell me why you empathize with Hamas and Hezbollah?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why was he offended by Cruz? Because he hates Jews and Israel. When someone is a diplomat and behaves like that, he needs to go

He was offended because he represents a country that has been repeatedly attacked by Israel and Cruz called Israel the greatest friend of Christians. As a diplomat, he has to represent all Lebanese and -- as was seen -- not even the Christians consider Israel their greatest friend. But, you once again avoided explaining what you think was significant about his leaving.

Walking out as a diplomat isn't very...diplomatic

No, it's not. Cruz's speech wasn't very stateman-like, either. Or very Christian.

The event was something of a debacle. But it would have been fine if they'd had a different keynote speaker.

Wasn't very Christian? He renounced violence against Jews and Christians by ISID

The Arabs didn't like the Jew part, apparently

[Anonymous]

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You, Jeff, are coming from a position of understanding of Hamas and Hezbollah. That's why you can't see it - won't see it. Might I suggest you watch Evan Sayet's video 'How Liberals Think'. You just might see yourself in his words

You repeatedly mentioned that the diplomat walked out. What was significant about that? This is not a hard question. Why can't you answer it?

I did. Please read

Where, please point out the post?

You answered it. Seriously?!?

[jsteele]

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You, Jeff, are coming from a position of understanding of Hamas and Hezbollah. That's why you can't see it - won't see it. Might I suggest you watch Evan Sayet's video 'How Liberals Think'. You just might see yourself in his words

You repeatedly mentioned that the diplomat walked out. What was significant about that? This is not a hard question. Why can't you answer it?

I did. Please read

Where, please point out the post?

You answered it. Seriously?!?

Why are you being so difficult? Why can't you just explain or point out your response?

[jsteele]

Apparently I will never learn why the other poster thinks the Lebanese diplomat's leaving was significant. But, I did my own research and this is the best description of events that I could find:

https://twitter.com/Joyce_Karam/status/509881474582339584

Joyce Karam
?@Joyce_Karam
Just in: #Lebanon Ambassador to Washington walked out on @SenTedCruz along with other dignitaries. It was "offensive".

https://twitter.com/Joyce_Karam/status/509882036614877184

Joyce Karam
?@Joyce_Karam
#Lebanon Ambassador Antoine Shedid along with 3 Parliamentarians walked out on @SenTedCruz speech with him lecturing on Israel.

So, I think my theory that the Lebanese officials were offended by Cruz's pro-Israel remarks was correct. I have no idea what the other poster thinks.

[Anonymous]

jsteele wrote:Apparently I will never learn why the other poster thinks the Lebanese diplomat's leaving was significant. But, I did my own research and this is the best description of events that I could find:

https://twitter.com/Joyce_Karam/status/509881474582339584

Joyce Karam
?@Joyce_Karam
Just in: #Lebanon Ambassador to Washington walked out on @SenTedCruz along with other dignitaries. It was "offensive".

https://twitter.com/Joyce_Karam/status/509882036614877184

Joyce Karam
?@Joyce_Karam
#Lebanon Ambassador Antoine Shedid along with 3 Parliamentarians walked out on @SenTedCruz speech with him lecturing on Israel.

So, I think my theory that the Lebanese officials were offended by Cruz's pro-Israel remarks was correct. I have no idea what the other poster thinks.

He was offended because he hates Israel and hates Jews, and didn't want Cruz to equate either with anything other than his feelings. A diplomat is paid to think. He didn't.

Do you feel, Jeff, that Hezbollah and Hamas are freedom fighters, ie fighting for the freedom of the Palestinian people? Can you show me how these organizations view the concepts of freedom, especially in regards to religious freedom, freedom for women, freedom for homosexuals, etc?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:Apparently I will never learn why the other poster thinks the Lebanese diplomat's leaving was significant. But, I did my own research and this is the best description of events that I could find:

https://twitter.com/Joyce_Karam/status/509881474582339584

Joyce Karam
?@Joyce_Karam
Just in: #Lebanon Ambassador to Washington walked out on @SenTedCruz along with other dignitaries. It was "offensive".

https://twitter.com/Joyce_Karam/status/509882036614877184

Joyce Karam
?@Joyce_Karam
#Lebanon Ambassador Antoine Shedid along with 3 Parliamentarians walked out on @SenTedCruz speech with him lecturing on Israel.

So, I think my theory that the Lebanese officials were offended by Cruz's pro-Israel remarks was correct. I have no idea what the other poster thinks.

He was offended because he hates Israel and hates Jews, and didn't want Cruz to equate either with anything other than his feelings. A diplomat is paid to think. He didn't.

Do you feel, Jeff, that Hezbollah and Hamas are freedom fighters, ie fighting for the freedom of the Palestinian people? Can you show me how these organizations view the concepts of freedom, especially in regards to religious freedom, freedom for women, freedom for homosexuals, etc?

oh that's right, all Arabs are the same. If they don't agree with Ted Cruz they must be terrorists. And you alone of all of us know what they're thinking. You're either very ignorant or a troll - can't decide which.

[Anonymous]

Btw Hezbollah ain't fighting for the Palestinians.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:Apparently I will never learn why the other poster thinks the Lebanese diplomat's leaving was significant. But, I did my own research and this is the best description of events that I could find:

https://twitter.com/Joyce_Karam/status/509881474582339584

Joyce Karam
?@Joyce_Karam
Just in: #Lebanon Ambassador to Washington walked out on @SenTedCruz along with other dignitaries. It was "offensive".

https://twitter.com/Joyce_Karam/status/509882036614877184

Joyce Karam
?@Joyce_Karam
#Lebanon Ambassador Antoine Shedid along with 3 Parliamentarians walked out on @SenTedCruz speech with him lecturing on Israel.

So, I think my theory that the Lebanese officials were offended by Cruz's pro-Israel remarks was correct. I have no idea what the other poster thinks.

He was offended because he hates Israel and hates Jews, and didn't want Cruz to equate either with anything other than his feelings. A diplomat is paid to think. He didn't.

Do you feel, Jeff, that Hezbollah and Hamas are freedom fighters, ie fighting for the freedom of the Palestinian people? Can you show me how these organizations view the concepts of freedom, especially in regards to religious freedom, freedom for women, freedom for homosexuals, etc?

More pertinently, how does Lebanon treat Christians? How does Israel treat Christians, both ones inside and outside of Israel? How do Hama's and Hezbollah treat Christians? Remember, this event was about persecuted Christians, despite Cruz's off-topic speech.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Good for Cruz. This is what we conservatives love about him. Don't think he has a chance to be president, but it's refreshing to have a guy who doesn't pander to every group he talks to. When he saw the anti-Semitism emanating from some of the Arab "Christians" he was speaking to, he told them the truth. And the truth is that it is Muslims who are trying to kill Christians in the Middle East, not Jews. The Christians and Jews should be allies there - those in the audience that disagreed did so out of sheer bigotry, and 90% of Republicans will love that Cruz called them out on it.

Oh PUH-lease! Do you honestly believe that Israel would spare 1 life to save an arab christian in Syria or Iraq right now? Please refresh my memory - how many israelis have lost lives fighting to help other countries? I cannot recall.

Many Syrian Druze are now applying for Israeli citizenship.

[jsteele]

Anonymous wrote:
He was offended because he hates Israel and hates Jews, and didn't want Cruz to equate either with anything other than his feelings. A diplomat is paid to think. He didn't.

Do you feel, Jeff, that Hezbollah and Hamas are freedom fighters, ie fighting for the freedom of the Palestinian people? Can you show me how these organizations view the concepts of freedom, especially in regards to religious freedom, freedom for women, freedom for homosexuals, etc?

He may hate Israel, can hardly blame him given the destruction Israel has wrought on his country, but I doubt he hates Jews. There are Lebanese Jews and I'm sure he is proud to represent them.

Both Hamas and Hizballah are multifaceted organizations, one aspect of which is that they both engage in armed struggle. Both also hold seats in their respective legislatures (Hizballah in Lebanon's Parliament and Hamas in the Palestinian Legislative Council.) I do not agree with the most of the political standings. I do, however, acknowledge their rights to self-defense against foreign aggressors.

It is interesting that Hizballah is the strongest Lebanese opponent of IS and is actively fighting the organization. Lebanese and Syrian Christians face an existential threat from IS. As such, they have a fairly benevolent view of Hizballah since it can offer them some protection. Hamas' position is more complicated, but it too is opposed to IS. I think an obsession with Hizballah and Hamas at this time demonstrates misplaced priorities. IS is a more serious threat than either of those groups.