2014 AAP Appeal/WISC Scores

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Anonymous wrote:Agree with PP.

Ten work samples, really? Getting 3s and 4s. Sounds like a kid who really needs a special education program to bring out the best in them. NOT!

I'm not attacking you, because you worked within the system. And I appreciate your honesty and courage in posting actual scores. But a system that allows people who push hard to get their kids into AAP because basically "they can do the work," is a farce. How many similarly intelligent kids have been left behind in general ed. That's the dirty secret. That's what's wrong with this program. And I say that as a parent who had a kid in AAP. But I also had kids in Gen. Ed. who had higher scores than those you appealed with (one with a 15 GBRS) and they did just fine in their local elementary school. This is where AAP will ultimately collapse on itself. Either the curriculum should be offered to all kids at a certain level or many kids are not receiving the education they deserve. Too many people are okay with that as long as they get theirs. That is no way to run a public school system.

Could not agree more. Thank you for posting.

Just curious, what's the issue with 10 work samples? The "similarly intelligent kids" left behind in ge might have gotten into AAP if they had had that many samples.

could be wrong, but don't think you're supposed to include more than 4 or 5. seems excessive. also, how do you verify that those samples are actually kid's work?

The poster wrote that she/he submitted 5 pages with 2 samples on each page, which is allowable. Our AART did that for my dd's school samples (included more than 1 on a page). And how would you verify ANY child's work samples?

They can not verify and that's why work samples don't carry much weight unless are submitted through AART and are done in school. It looks like everyone who appeals wins anyway...and it's about time for FCPS to close the program which started as a promise to only some truly talented kids who otherwise would not get enough education.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:For those who recieved approval, when is the deadline to respond and anyone knows what happens if I miss the deadline to respond to the letter? Are we losing the spot? Currently out of town...so please help!

Deadline is June 30. Fax or mail form that's included in letter. Sorry, don't know the answer to what happens if you miss the deadline. Not sure if it's too late to call the AAP office today, but you can try on Mon. Seems that they would anticipate lots of folks being out of town this week.

Have tried calling, no answer and left voice mail yesterday and no answer...*sigh*

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Received letters today for my 2 children - both IN. Letters dated June 20; envelopes postmarked June 25.

Child 1 (rising 4th grader - did not refer last year bc didn't think she was ready, but she did exceptionally well this year in Level III):

VCI 121
PRI 123
WMI 102
PSI 121
FSIQ 123

GBRS 13


Child 2 (rising 3rd grader)
VCI 126
PRI 123
WMI 113
PSI 109
FSIQ 124

GBRS 12

I'm the poster of the above. I was VERY hesitant to post the scores bc I knew there would be negative reactions to my kids' WISC scores - and who wants to hear that? But I decided to post bc I I knew not everyone's kids were getting 130+ - those w/ lower scores were probably just scared to post bc of the inevitable mean comments. Would I suggest that your kid is inferior bc they got a low GBRS? Actually, no, I wouldn't. I know kids learn differently, test differently, behave differently. There is no formula for what makes a kid "it".

The AAP committee is not just looking at the test scores. Isn't that obvious when people write that their kid got a 140 on the WISC, but didn't get in?

Both of my kids have consistently been in the TOP word study and math groups. Their reports cards are mostly 4s, a few 3s - sometimes all 4s (the only 2 has been in organization for my older one). My older one was Level III this past year in 3rd grade (advanced math and reading) - her teacher has said she didn't understand why my daughter wasn't in AAP from the beginning (as mentioned above, we didn't refer last year bc we didn't think she was ready).

With both appeals, we included 10 work samples each (5 pages, 2 samples per page). These samples included advanced math word problems, poetry, simple machine blueprint, written responses to social studies exams, etc. We also included letters citing VERY specific examples of questions they asked us or their teachers, info they have told us, etc. Both appeals files were very strong and I would've been surprised if they hadn't been accepted.

So, to answer those who are questioning whether my kids (or other similarly scored kids) belong in AAP with their "low" scores of Superior, YES, they do. And the AAP committee obviously agrees.

Nice to see honest parents... your kids seem to be hardworking which does matter, good luck to you all!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:For those who recieved approval, when is the deadline to respond and anyone knows what happens if I miss the deadline to respond to the letter? Are we losing the spot? Currently out of town...so please help!

Deadline is June 30. Fax or mail form that's included in letter. Sorry, don't know the answer to what happens if you miss the deadline. Not sure if it's too late to call the AAP office today, but you can try on Mon. Seems that they would anticipate lots of folks being out of town this week.

Have tried calling, no answer and left voice mail yesterday and no answer...*sigh*

Try your school on Mon. Our's is open in the mornings until noon. I imagine your school has the same/similar schedule. Good luck!

[Anonymous]

Eligible letter received.

WISC IV
FSIQ 133 (99%)

No GBRS, CoGAT, or NNAT. Just recommendation letters and awards.

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I think that y'all should try to figure out why YOUR kid didn't get in and stop blaming the people who did for your own, as parents, deficiencies. You didn't win? Why not? I didn't sleep with anyone to get my kids in.

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Cept their dad...

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Anonymous wrote:I think that y'all should try to figure out why YOUR kid didn't get in and stop blaming the people who did for your own, as parents, deficiencies. You didn't win? Why not? I didn't sleep with anyone to get my kids in.

seems like just about everyone got in, not really an exclusive club anymore. Some of the scores I've seen reported here are surprisingly low.

[Anonymous]

The AAP population is 16%. Less 10 scores posted have been posted out of of 13,300+ AAP ES kids (.008%) and folks want to make generalizations and leap to conclusions.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think that y'all should try to figure out why YOUR kid didn't get in and stop blaming the people who did for your own, as parents, deficiencies. You didn't win? Why not? I didn't sleep with anyone to get my kids in.

seems like just about everyone got in, not really an exclusive club anymore. Some of the scores I've seen reported here are surprisingly low.

Everyone gets in on appeal. It happens every year.

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Not everyone get in on appeal every year.
My kid was not get in last year.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Not everyone get in on appeal every year.
My kid was not get in last year.

how about this year?
keep trying; you'll get in.
Seriously, I know one mom who tried three years in a row and her DD did finally get in.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The AAP population is 16%. Less 10 scores posted have been posted out of of 13,300+ AAP ES kids (.008%) and folks want to make generalizations and leap to conclusions.

Someone with a brain, finally. You people with your "everyone gets in on appeal" are ridiculous. A few people post that their kids got in and suddenly it's EVERYONE. Do you think all those who got denied are posting their rejections here??

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The AAP population is 16%. Less 10 scores posted have been posted out of of 13,300+ AAP ES kids (.008%) and folks want to make generalizations and leap to conclusions.

Someone with a brain, finally. You people with your "everyone gets in on appeal" are ridiculous. A few people post that their kids got in and suddenly it's EVERYONE. Do you think all those who got denied are posting their rejections here??

okay, "almost everyone" gets in on appeal, is that better?

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Nope. Any facts here...or just WAG w/ an equally suspect opinion?