2014 AAP Appeal/WISC Scores

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The AAP population is 16%. Less 10 scores posted have been posted out of of 13,300+ AAP ES kids (.008%) and folks want to make generalizations and leap to conclusions.

Someone with a brain, finally. You people with your "everyone gets in on appeal" are ridiculous. A few people post that their kids got in and suddenly it's EVERYONE. Do you think all those who got denied are posting their rejections here??

okay, "almost everyone" gets in on appeal, is that better?

What do you base this on? Posts on dcum? Hope you kid is brighter than you are.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The AAP population is 16%. Less 10 scores posted have been posted out of of 13,300+ AAP ES kids (.008%) and folks want to make generalizations and leap to conclusions.

Someone with a brain, finally. You people with your "everyone gets in on appeal" are ridiculous. A few people post that their kids got in and suddenly it's EVERYONE. Do you think all those who got denied are posting their rejections here??

okay, "almost everyone" gets in on appeal, is that better?

What do you base this on? Posts on dcum? Hope you kid is brighter than you are.[/quote]

Hope you kid is brighter then you is, too!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think that y'all should try to figure out why YOUR kid didn't get in and stop blaming the people who did for your own, as parents, deficiencies. You didn't win? Why not? I didn't sleep with anyone to get my kids in.

I think you miss the point. A number of the people who post on here, me included, are not posting because our kids didn't get into AAP. We're posting, or at least I am, because of problems we have with a program that in certain parts of the county with high percentages of smart kids, has become divisive and unnecessary. FYI, I had an AAP kid and I had an AAP kid who was truly an intellectual outlier. My other two are extremely smart and breezing through honors classes in MS/HS all without the benefit of AAP. All this agonizing at the end of second grade is counterproductive in many communities. With AAP watered down, it makes more sense to have local AAP where possible and eliminate the busing option for those kids. It's just a waste or resources.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The AAP population is 16%. Less 10 scores posted have been posted out of of 13,300+ AAP ES kids (.008%) and folks want to make generalizations and leap to conclusions.

Someone with a brain, finally. You people with your "everyone gets in on appeal" are ridiculous. A few people post that their kids got in and suddenly it's EVERYONE. Do you think all those who got denied are posting their rejections here??

All of the kids who appealed at our school last year - ALL of them - got in. There is a lot of truth to saying "everyone gets in on appeal," whether you want to acknowledge it or not. The whole thing is like a game. Those parents who are the most persistent will get their child in, no question.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think that y'all should try to figure out why YOUR kid didn't get in and stop blaming the people who did for your own, as parents, deficiencies. You didn't win? Why not? I didn't sleep with anyone to get my kids in.

I think you miss the point. A number of the people who post on here, me included, are not posting because our kids didn't get into AAP. We're posting, or at least I am, because of problems we have with a program that in certain parts of the county with high percentages of smart kids, has become divisive and unnecessary. FYI, I had an AAP kid and I had an AAP kid who was truly an intellectual outlier. My other two are extremely smart and breezing through honors classes in MS/HS all without the benefit of AAP. All this agonizing at the end of second grade is counterproductive in many communities. With AAP watered down, it makes more sense to have local AAP where possible and eliminate the busing option for those kids. It's just a waste or resources.

EXACTLY. Finally, a voice of reason.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The AAP population is 16%. Less 10 scores posted have been posted out of of 13,300+ AAP ES kids (.008%) and folks want to make generalizations and leap to conclusions.

Someone with a brain, finally. You people with your "everyone gets in on appeal" are ridiculous. A few people post that their kids got in and suddenly it's EVERYONE. Do you think all those who got denied are posting their rejections here??

All of the kids who appealed at our school last year - ALL of them - got in. There is a lot of truth to saying "everyone gets in on appeal," whether you want to acknowledge it or not. The whole thing is like a game. Those parents who are the most persistent will get their child in, no question.

Thinking out loud. Maybe they have a certain number of AAP slots set aside and after the first round of acceptances to round out classroom sizes they accept appeals.

Kind of like a college waitlist? Were most of the accepted appeals in-pool to begin with? We don't have that data but I would think so. So they AAP committee is pulling kids off the cusp to fill in slots, not ones who weren't in-pool. It also makes sense that parents of in=pool students are more likely to appeal.

So would that make all the appeals being let in more palatable to the naysayers?

[Anonymous]

Those who are complaining about who got in with what score and about the problems with AAP should start their own thread.

[Anonymous]

I have two kids in AAP and you guys are going to be so surprised. It's really no different than the gen ed classes. Same work, same drama, nice label. It's really not worth all the drama on this board.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The AAP population is 16%. Less 10 scores posted have been posted out of of 13,300+ AAP ES kids (.008%) and folks want to make generalizations and leap to conclusions.

Someone with a brain, finally. You people with your "everyone gets in on appeal" are ridiculous. A few people post that their kids got in and suddenly it's EVERYONE. Do you think all those who got denied are posting their rejections here??

All of the kids who appealed at our school last year - ALL of them - got in. There is a lot of truth to saying "everyone gets in on appeal," whether you want to acknowledge it or not. The whole thing is like a game. Those parents who are the most persistent will get their child in, no question.

Thinking out loud. Maybe they have a certain number of AAP slots set aside and after the first round of acceptances to round out classroom sizes they accept appeals.

Kind of like a college waitlist? Were most of the accepted appeals in-pool to begin with? We don't have that data but I would think so. So they AAP committee is pulling kids off the cusp to fill in slots, not ones who weren't in-pool. It also makes sense that parents of in=pool students are more likely to appeal.

So would that make all the appeals being let in more palatable to the naysayers?

The appeals at our school were not in-pool to begin with.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The AAP population is 16%. Less 10 scores posted have been posted out of of 13,300+ AAP ES kids (.008%) and folks want to make generalizations and leap to conclusions.

Someone with a brain, finally. You people with your "everyone gets in on appeal" are ridiculous. A few people post that their kids got in and suddenly it's EVERYONE. Do you think all those who got denied are posting their rejections here??

All of the kids who appealed at our school last year - ALL of them - got in. There is a lot of truth to saying "everyone gets in on appeal," whether you want to acknowledge it or not. The whole thing is like a game. Those parents who are the most persistent will get their child in, no question.

Thinking out loud. Maybe they have a certain number of AAP slots set aside and after the first round of acceptances to round out classroom sizes they accept appeals.

Kind of like a college waitlist? Were most of the accepted appeals in-pool to begin with? We don't have that data but I would think so. So they AAP committee is pulling kids off the cusp to fill in slots, not ones who weren't in-pool. It also makes sense that parents of in=pool students are more likely to appeal.

So would that make all the appeals being let in more palatable to the naysayers?

The appeals at our school were not in-pool to begin with.

There is no quotes or allowable spots. Our friend appealed for her in pool child and was rejected. Seems a moderate GBRS is hard to overcome, I'm afraid.

[Anonymous]

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Everyone gets in on appeal. It happens every year.

The stats I've seen (it's somewhere on board docs) show that 50% of those who appeal get in. So that is definitely not "everyone."

[Anonymous]

Of the four people I know that appealed only one was found eligible.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Of the four people I know that appealed only one was found eligible.

Wow, that's totally different from the appeals I know about. We're in the Great Falls/Vienna/McLean area.

[Anonymous]

My dd's friend's parents appealed last year when she didn't get in on referral. She was in the middle math group and the lowest reading group. She got in. This year, her little sister, with scores in the 105-118 range didn't get in on referral, but an appeal with a WISC of 123 got her in. I know all this because they talk openly and proudly about the process.
I'm not sure how these kids belong in a class with kids who have a WISC of 140+ any more than they belong with the rest of the kids in the 100-120's range in general Ed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My dd's friend's parents appealed last year when she didn't get in on referral. She was in the middle math group and the lowest reading group. She got in. This year, her little sister, with scores in the 105-118 range didn't get in on referral, but an appeal with a WISC of 123 got her in. I know all this because they talk openly and proudly about the process.
I'm not sure how these kids belong in a class with kids who have a WISC of 140+ any more than they belong with the rest of the kids in the 100-120's range in general Ed.

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