Bruce Jenner continues his quest to become a woman

[Anonymous]

I look at this picture and think of how living in California seems to put a fear of aging in people. At least here in DC we go out like the hags we are.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Weirdo.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2548269/Bruce-Jenner-leaves-clinic-bandaged-throat-undergoing-surgery-decrease-Adams-Apple.html

OP your attitude is really stigmatizing & cruel.

[Anonymous]

I have a friend who changed from male to female. No surgeries or hormones, just started living as a female. And he's so much happier as a she. Not a mental problem, a physical one. Same person, different gender. Let people be who they are, and let go of your prejudices and abhorrence of differences. Life isn't pretty and neat, and some people don't fit into nice little categories. Move on.

[Anonymous]

the latest

[Anonymous]

? Is that a wedding ring? I thought that the marriage was over? What's up with that?

[Anonymous]

Well today People magazine is reporting that Bruce is transitioning. (http://www.people.com/article/bruce-jenner-transitioning-woman)

People magazine does have a slight bit of credibility, right?

[Anonymous]

Well, it's pretty obvious that's what he's doing.

The thing that I find unsettling in the picture with him in the track suit is the the two sets of fingers on his left arm. Obviously someone was air brushed out but it definitely looks creepy with those disembodied hands.

[Anonymous]

I would be quite relieved to hear he's transitioning. What on earth would be going on for a straight man to make the physical/plastic surgery changes that he did? That's what would be pathetic and creepy.

[Anonymous]

Must be very difficult to go through this in the public spotlight. At least he is reportedly happy.

[Anonymous]

Question:

When people transition, do they wait until they have all their ducks in a row before they begin dressing differently?

The reason I ask is that he's dressed like a man in every picture I've seen recently...and he's regularly photographed flying planes or doing something with race cars.

PS - He's opted to do this publicly...he's producing a reality show about it. And there's a part of me that thinks this is a bizarre publicity stunt. Like maybe he'll contemplate transitioning and decide not to go all the way.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I would be quite relieved to hear he's transitioning. What on earth would be going on for a straight man to make the physical/plastic surgery changes that he did? That's what would be pathetic and creepy.

You know this isn't related to sexuality, right?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Well, it's pretty obvious that's what he's doing.

The thing that I find unsettling in the picture with him in the track suit is the the two sets of fingers on his left arm. Obviously someone was air brushed out but it definitely looks creepy with those disembodied hands.

Gah! How did I not see that before?!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I have gender dysphoria. There is no doubt in my mind this is what bruce jenner suffers from.
It is probable that there has been on-going therapy in his life.
I have been in therapy to try to stop the onset of this. I an also on anti-deptessants
anxieity reducing drugs to help me cope with feeling like i am living a life in the wrong gender.
Gender dysphoria will consume a persons mind and life. Its not as simple as letting go of some "idea"
that crossed your mind. Gender dysphoria is more common than most people know.
The condition needs to be exposed, understood and excepted and treated as needed for
individual needs.
Sometimes transition is the only "medicine" to help this condition.
Its not easy for people without the condition to understand how serious it is.
To complicate matters, Gender Dysphoria can have different levels at different times.
Its a complicated subject to say the least. But the point is, Bruce would rather NOT
change his appearance! It is NEEDED because of the condition he SUFFERS from!
I believe me, it is Suffering! Trust that Bruce has had multiple people tell him he is an embarrasment
and that he will be riduculed and abandoned by many of his friends and family.
Imagine if you had cancer and everyone turns on you because you lost your hair in treatment.
It is a very similar feeling.

I am sorry you are suffering. I have a very close friend who is making the transition and it has been brutal for him. He passes beautifully now. But it's been really rough on his wife and children. They are in intensive therapy and seem to be doing so much better now than they were a year ago. He is definitely in a better place. I don't think he could have survived many more years trying to live as a woman. He had already made two unsuccessful suicide attempts. His immediately family was very supportive. His friends and his church have been supportive. His parents and siblings have pretty much disowned him.

You are in my prayers. I hope you find peace, whether you choose to transition or continue therapy without transition. Please remember that is a ton of support out there. Reach out to those groups and let them help.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Question:

When people transition, do they wait until they have all their ducks in a row before they begin dressing differently?

The reason I ask is that he's dressed like a man in every picture I've seen recently...and he's regularly photographed flying planes or doing something with race cars.

PS - He's opted to do this publicly...he's producing a reality show about it. And there's a part of me that thinks this is a bizarre publicity stunt. Like maybe he'll contemplate transitioning and decide not to go all the way.

It depends on the person. Some people jump fully in, others move more gradually. Some people stay in a more flexible zone. I had a college roommate who had been raised male found casual male clothes were appropriate when she was just hanging out, but she dressed to the nines in women's clothing when dressing up. That also works because many women were casual male-looking clothes. It's like we expect transgender or transitioning people to be the extreme of a gender and that's not going to be the reality in most cases.

The few pictures I see of Bruce Jenner are in casual-ish clothing, I wouldn't say it's strongly male or female dress.

Women fly planes and race cars.

When you're in the public eye, you really have no choice but to do it publicly. Even when you're "just" a nobody transitioning, you're doing it in front of people. People don't suddenly forget that you were James and now you're Joanna. It's an incredibly difficult process and I think only the knowledge that you'll get to be you on the other end of it makes it worthwhile.

[Anonymous]

I have to admit I thought this was all media hype. He always seemed like a very nice, 'normal' guy in the midst of a publicity-hungry family, and we shouldn't forget what an absolutely incredible athlete he was. I hope he find some happiness.