I don't want my kid to be the only white student . . .

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Anonymous wrote:Your post is unintelligible.

Sorry if you didn't understand, the question would be over your head for an answer. Move on.

New poster, and I agree with PP. I wasn't able to follow your post either. It seemed disjointed or something...

I thought I was the only one! Very hard to follow what the person is saying.

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Anonymous wrote:My kid was the only white student in her class last year. We blithely assumed she would be fine, because kids are color blind, right? She ate alone every day. She told me (and the teacher confirmed) that she tried to join the other children at recess but was rebuffed. More than once, she came home crying because another elementary school child told her to take her "white ass" and get lost. (Well, the first time, she asked me what "ass" meant, because she had never heard it before.) We stuck it out through the rest of the year, but changed schools this past fall. Her new classroom has a good mix of kids, and a great inclusive vibe; she has many friends in her class, not just white kids. Any kind of homogeny is bad for the "only".

But you might not be aware of that tendency, because there are lots of stupid bitches around, so you've always been in good company.

I disagree that any kind of homogeny is bad for the only. Frankly, I think being the only black kid at an otherwise all-white schools is probably easier, since no white child would dare tell a black child to "take your black ass and get lost." White children, frankly, do not speak that way.

White children in DC don't, maybe, but there's a whoooole lot of 'em in the rest of the country that do.

But this is DCUM and we're talking about DC, not the rest of the country. And, honestly, except for some locales, I cannot think of a single place where a white child would speak like that.

White children in DC speak that way too, I've heard them on the metro screaming their heads off at their nannies.

Bullshit. Children young enough to have nannies using racially charged language and yelling at their nannies? You lie. No way. Doesn't ring true. If a family were that racist that a young child was immersed in that sort of talk, it wouldn't have black nannies to begin with.

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Anonymous wrote:We had a difficult time at a popular charter because of race. Lots of whites and AA but no true mixing. The white families do not include non-whites in many of their social events. They don't even think there is something wrong with it.

My daughter makes her own list for birthday parties and the occasional group playdate. (Usually three kids at a time, either at home or at a park.) The list includes all races. I issue the invitations. Only the white children come. I have NEVER had a black or hispanic family bring their child to my house. One time, a hispanic family came to a park playdate. That's in spite of the fact that I chat with the parents at pickup time, and send the invitations individually, instead of as a group email.

I really don't know what more I can do. Thoughts?

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White children in DC speak that way too, I've heard them on the metro screaming their heads off at their nannies.

Bullshit. Children young enough to have nannies using racially charged language and yelling at their nannies? You lie. No way. Doesn't ring true. If a family were that racist that a young child was immersed in that sort of talk, it wouldn't have black nannies to begin with.

Agreed. This is a lie. This poster maybe heard ONE child ONE time "screaming" at his nanny, but in 10 years in DC, riding metro daily, I've never encountered something like this once.

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Anonymous wrote:We had a difficult time at a popular charter because of race. Lots of whites and AA but no true mixing. The white families do not include non-whites in many of their social events. They don't even think there is something wrong with it.

My daughter makes her own list for birthday parties and the occasional group playdate. (Usually three kids at a time, either at home or at a park.) The list includes all races. I issue the invitations. Only the white children come. I have NEVER had a black or hispanic family bring their child to my house. One time, a hispanic family came to a park playdate. That's in spite of the fact that I chat with the parents at pickup time, and send the invitations individually, instead of as a group email.

I really don't know what more I can do. Thoughts?

This same thing happens to us all of the time.

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Anonymous wrote:We had a difficult time at a popular charter because of race. Lots of whites and AA but no true mixing. The white families do not include non-whites in many of their social events. They don't even think there is something wrong with it.

My daughter makes her own list for birthday parties and the occasional group playdate. (Usually three kids at a time, either at home or at a park.) The list includes all races. I issue the invitations. Only the white children come. I have NEVER had a black or hispanic family bring their child to my house. One time, a hispanic family came to a park playdate. That's in spite of the fact that I chat with the parents at pickup time, and send the invitations individually, instead of as a group email.

I really don't know what more I can do. Thoughts?

This same thing happens to us all of the time.

We have the same experience. A black family told me kindly that in their house weekends were for church and family, not socializing with school friends. We continue to invite other school friends and don't take it personally.

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Anonymous wrote:That kid was not necessary even being rood. Aa english is different from mainstream english that you are familiar with.

What?? This is BS. I am AA, and very mainstream, and rude is rude. We do not have some sort of 'hood pass' for profanity. Don't let the media fool you, somewhere there are some AA grandmothers whose heads are lowered in shame for kids (and adults) who speak this way.

LOL, as I think of my grandmother. You are right, for sure.

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You're right, PP. Your post makes me think about the all-AA teaching staff and K+ voting out all the white officers of the new PTA at Payne ES on Capitol Hill almost a year ago. The PTA has only been up and running for a year at the time. The group was rolling with white and biracial leadership, parents of kids in the first racially diverse PreS3 group, which AA stakeholders so resented that they staged a take-over. The PTA hasn't met since, and every former white officer will be gone by the summer (no whites staying for K, let alone elementary grades). The school remains almost entirely AA (a touch Latino) above PreK4, and failing, with awful test scores. So darn depressing, and predictable.

Wow, there are so many problems with your post. A group of parents join a school, and even though they only have kids at one grade level, they stage a take over of the PTA. They describe a parent organization that only serves 1/8 of the grades in the school as "rolling". These same parents clearly don't value the students currently in the school, given that they refer to the demographic in the older grades as "darn depressing". They seem to think that raising test scores, not by actually helping students, or serving them better, but by swapping out kids for demographics more likely to succeed is the same thing as "improving" the school.

When the parents of kids in the older grades, as well as the teachers who love and serve them, respond by trying to take on leadership roles in the program they are described as staging a "take-over" and accused of racism. The irony is enormous. Thank god the racist white parents left!

can you please identify in details the actions taken by the PTA based on which you state that the PTA was serving only 1/8 of the grades? really curious

I'm the PP right above you, and I can't give you any details. I'm only going based on what was in the post above. I would assume that if the PTA was all white people, and there were only white children in one grade, PS3 (note, I can't corroborate this, this is based on the post at the top, not anything I know) then they come from one of the 8 grades in the school.

It might be that the poster on top was wrong, but that's where I got my info.

I would not want the PTA of my child's school to only draw from one race, or from one grade. If there was a PTA election and the candidates were that limited, I'd expect a PTA that valued all the children in the school to delay the election until they had solved the problem of putting together an electorate that was representative of the school.

so you have no specific facts to support your assertion. the poster I was responding to (sorry, I am not sure if it is you) said that the voted out PTA was "serving" 1/8 of the school (this is not the same as representing or reflecting, this means that the PTO was serving the interests of 1/8 of the school but failed to give any specific fact, describe any specific action taken by the PTA, other than saying that they were white outsiders. this is racism. and, based on your same assertion that your would not want a PTA that draw only from one race, what do you think about the current all black PTA (the one that exist only on paper, since has never met and does not do anything for the school)? does that represent and serve all students in the school? the previous poster also accused a prior poster of not valuing the students on the ground that the prior poster had allegedly referred to them as "darn depressing", when that poster clearly referred to the current situation (awful grades, no activity from the current PTA, flight of higher income students) as darn depressing, not to the students of higher grades. other posters asked for specific examples of actions taken by the voted out PTA as examples of serving only the white kids, and so far nobody has been able to provide one single example. it really appears that that PTA leadership was hated simply because it was made of higher income white and mixed race people. they were elected simply because the people who bothered showing up the night of their election elected them, nobody was left out or prevented from voting. it was not a secret election. people who did not show up simply did not care. they did care enough to show up one night the year after to vote out the PTA, but that was it. I would find it less outrageous if the new PTA was active. but the fact that they are not doing anything, not even meeting, says a lot. if they did not want to work, I wonder why they did not simply let the active PTA work. I think we need to have the courage to admit that even AA are racist, and when they are, they are wrong. there is no good racism and bad racism. in the case of this school, it looks to me like stupid racism, because at the end the kids who will suffer the most are the kids with no choice, the poor AA. the higher income, of any color, are voting with their feet.

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Anonymous wrote:The old guard in DCPS will be difficult to go against. It's like trying to fight the southern bigots who were against school desegregation. Anyone attempting to do this should know that you have your work cut out for you. I'm going to be honest and let you know the real deal. Some blacks in DC don't like white people. They resent gentrification, they resent white families moving in their neighborhoods, and they resent white children attending DCPS. Some are even resistant towards middle and upper class blacks because they feel as though we are "sellouts." I know many white liberals have this utopia mindset and they value multiculturalism. However, know that many blacks in DC don't have this utopia mindset and are very much against change. Some blacks like the segregated DCPS. They're fearful of whites coming into "their" schools. They like the status quo and the dysfunctionalism that comes along with it. The victim and "I hate whitey" mentality is a vicious cycle to break in the black community. I hear more opposition against diversity or change from blacks in DC than I do whites. I often hear all the time, "The man is trying to keep us down" or "white people are trying to take over." So, it's difficult to fight this type of mentality because it's a generational thing that is pass down from grandparents to parents to their children. I'm AA and even I have to admit sometimes that we are our own worst enemies. For a school to not have a thriving PTA is ridiculous. For a school to ignore racist bullying is even more disturbing. If DCPS don't get their act together, then many families both black and white will seek better options for their children rather it's private or parochial schools. Some will leave the city all together for Fairfax or Montgomery County Schools. It will take lots of patient families to overcome the storms and obstacles of DCPS in regards to race relations. It's just disheartening that in 2013 we're still talking about school desegregation in Washington DC.

I call BS on most of your post. I am AA and am not quite sure you are who you represent yourself to be. I grew up in Washington, DC. I left the city for education and returned many years later. I have family and friends in this city. I talk to my neighbors and neighbors of family and friends. I have not heard these things for which you speak. As a matter of fact, I have repeatedly heard the opposite. Blacks often comment when more white families move in. They state that now with whites in the neighborhood they will receive more police cruising, street cleaning, better schools, etc.

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Anonymous wrote:My kid was the only white student in her class last year. We blithely assumed she would be fine, because kids are color blind, right? She ate alone every day. She told me (and the teacher confirmed) that she tried to join the other children at recess but was rebuffed. More than once, she came home crying because another elementary school child told her to take her "white ass" and get lost. (Well, the first time, she asked me what "ass" meant, because she had never heard it before.) We stuck it out through the rest of the year, but changed schools this past fall. Her new classroom has a good mix of kids, and a great inclusive vibe; she has many friends in her class, not just white kids. Any kind of homogeny is bad for the "only".

But you might not be aware of that tendency, because there are lots of stupid bitches around, so you've always been in good company.

I disagree that any kind of homogeny is bad for the only. Frankly, I think being the only black kid at an otherwise all-white schools is probably easier, since no white child would dare tell a black child to "take your black ass and get lost." White children, frankly, do not speak that way.

White children in DC don't, maybe, but there's a whoooole lot of 'em in the rest of the country that do.

But this is DCUM and we're talking about DC, not the rest of the country. And, honestly, except for some locales, I cannot think of a single place where a white child would speak like that.

White children in DC speak that way too, I've heard them on the metro screaming their heads off at their nannies.

Bullshit. Children young enough to have nannies using racially charged language and yelling at their nannies? You lie. No way. Doesn't ring true. If a family were that racist that a young child was immersed in that sort of talk, it wouldn't have black nannies to begin with.

Riiiiight... because racist people never have employees/servants of the race they think is inferior... that NEVER happens.

Seriously people? What planet are you living in? I don't know whether to be heartened by the ignorance or scared completely by it. Or both. People who think another race is below them or inferior to them DO indeed hire them to watch their kids. That's not at all to say that everyone with a nanny of a different race feels that way, not at all. But you guys need to get out in the real world more often, these dynamics are all over so many these sort of domestic relationships.

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Anonymous wrote:I am going to guess the number of "black people...you actually know" is at least the one he/she sees in the mirror each morning, since PP writes: "Some are even resistant towards *middle and upper class blacks* because they feel as though *we* are "sellouts."

Doesn't excuse the PP's blanket statements, but makes the implication of you accusation of the PP hard to defend.

Different poster than to your response. I don't believe the PP is who she purports to be, a Black person. When I moved into my then predominantly black community, I as an middle/upper class earner (can't figure it out which class in regards to DCUM's terms), I was most welcomed in the community. If I was resented, I sure did not know about it. In fact, the neighbors looked out for me and helped a many times. They watched my property when I was away. So, I am not following or believing PP. And yes, I know my situation was and is anecdotal, but so what.

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Anonymous wrote:My kid was the only white student in her class last year. We blithely assumed she would be fine, because kids are color blind, right? She ate alone every day. She told me (and the teacher confirmed) that she tried to join the other children at recess but was rebuffed. More than once, she came home crying because another elementary school child told her to take her "white ass" and get lost. (Well, the first time, she asked me what "ass" meant, because she had never heard it before.) We stuck it out through the rest of the year, but changed schools this past fall. Her new classroom has a good mix of kids, and a great inclusive vibe; she has many friends in her class, not just white kids. Any kind of homogeny is bad for the "only".

But you might not be aware of that tendency, because there are lots of stupid bitches around, so you've always been in good company.

I disagree that any kind of homogeny is bad for the only. Frankly, I think being the only black kid at an otherwise all-white schools is probably easier, since no white child would dare tell a black child to "take your black ass and get lost." White children, frankly, do not speak that way.

White children in DC don't, maybe, but there's a whoooole lot of 'em in the rest of the country that do.

But this is DCUM and we're talking about DC, not the rest of the country. And, honestly, except for some locales, I cannot think of a single place where a white child would speak like that.

White children in DC speak that way too, I've heard them on the metro screaming their heads off at their nannies.

Bullshit. Children young enough to have nannies using racially charged language and yelling at their nannies? You lie. No way. Doesn't ring true. If a family were that racist that a young child was immersed in that sort of talk, it wouldn't have black nannies to begin with.

Riiiiight... because racist people never have employees/servants of the race they think is inferior... that NEVER happens.

Seriously people? What planet are you living in? I don't know whether to be heartened by the ignorance or scared completely by it. Or both. People who think another race is below them or inferior to them DO indeed hire them to watch their kids. That's not at all to say that everyone with a nanny of a different race feels that way, not at all. But you guys need to get out in the real world more often, these dynamics are all over so many these sort of domestic relationships.

So, it is your assertion that 2-year-olds run around the Metro calling their nannies the N-word? Really? This is your position?

Give me a break.

White CHILDREN simply do not speak this way. White TEENS might, granted, once they've been subjected to enough black CHILDREN telling them to "get their white ass" lost.

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Anonymous wrote:My kid was the only white student in her class last year. We blithely assumed she would be fine, because kids are color blind, right? She ate alone every day. She told me (and the teacher confirmed) that she tried to join the other children at recess but was rebuffed. More than once, she came home crying because another elementary school child told her to take her "white ass" and get lost. (Well, the first time, she asked me what "ass" meant, because she had never heard it before.) We stuck it out through the rest of the year, but changed schools this past fall. Her new classroom has a good mix of kids, and a great inclusive vibe; she has many friends in her class, not just white kids. Any kind of homogeny is bad for the "only".

But you might not be aware of that tendency, because there are lots of stupid bitches around, so you've always been in good company.

I disagree that any kind of homogeny is bad for the only. Frankly, I think being the only black kid at an otherwise all-white schools is probably easier, since no white child would dare tell a black child to "take your black ass and get lost." White children, frankly, do not speak that way.

White children in DC don't, maybe, but there's a whoooole lot of 'em in the rest of the country that do.

But this is DCUM and we're talking about DC, not the rest of the country. And, honestly, except for some locales, I cannot think of a single place where a white child would speak like that.

White children in DC speak that way too, I've heard them on the metro screaming their heads off at their nannies.

Bullshit. Children young enough to have nannies using racially charged language and yelling at their nannies? You lie. No way. Doesn't ring true. If a family were that racist that a young child was immersed in that sort of talk, it wouldn't have black nannies to begin with.

Riiiiight... because racist people never have employees/servants of the race they think is inferior... that NEVER happens.

Seriously people? What planet are you living in? I don't know whether to be heartened by the ignorance or scared completely by it. Or both. People who think another race is below them or inferior to them DO indeed hire them to watch their kids. That's not at all to say that everyone with a nanny of a different race feels that way, not at all. But you guys need to get out in the real world more often, these dynamics are all over so many these sort of domestic relationships.

Yeah, remember that thread about which language should my child learn: Mandarin, Spanish, or French? And, there were some posters who chimed in to say that the only need to learn Spanish was to speak to the the nanny and the yardman.

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OP here- Jeff please close down this thread. It has taken a completely different turn than the intended question and the spread of this hatred is just not needed.

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Anonymous wrote:OP here- Jeff please close down this thread. It has taken a completely different turn than the intended question and the spread of this hatred is just not needed.

I agree that this thread is going nowhere, and should probably be closed. but if you are the OP, you got what you deserved, since your original post was frankly vailed racist.