Daughter and friend play dress up - in hajib

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Anonymous wrote:I LOVE American Christians! You are so funny. If it does not conform to your odd standards, then by all means....it is exotic and strange. And, taboo.

Yes, drink the blood of your savior. Make sure to have your children pray to an old man in the sky who watches their every move and sends them to a firey place if they do not obey his rules written on stone.

Oh...but yes, Muslims and Jews are odd because they cover themselves out of respect for their lord.

Did you actually READ this thread? Because we are specifically talking about religious based gender discrimination here. More accurately, my feeling of discomfort when my American, secular daughter was prancing around the house in a hijab. Not the other absurdities of Judeo-Christian religions, which I agree are legion.

No one argued that Muslims or Jews are odd because they cover themselves. I am asking - why do women need to cover up more than men. Are you capable of responding to that question or do you just want to continue to mock the discussion?

No. We are talking about girls playing dress-up in a hijab. You believe that it is about gender discrimination, but you probably do not know muslim women well enough to even ask them for their opinion. Or maybe you are arrogant enough to feel that you must speak for them.

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It may stem from religion but they also do it for social and cultural reasons. And they are second to men in that respect...

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What about American Muslims in the US?
I do it for my faith. I am second to no man.
I also wouldn't think a Christian woman who covered her hair was less than man, because the bible tells her to cover her hair, but men don't have to.

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Anonymous wrote:It may stem from religion but they also do it for social and cultural reasons. And they are second to men in that respect...

Right, but non-Muslim women who wear makeup, revealing clothing, and heels do it for "themselves"--not for social and cultural reasons? Oh no, they are not second to men in that respect...

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Anonymous wrote:LOL, Hajib

Hajib, Hijab, Punjab, whatever.
OP, if it offends you, then stop her. I don't see a big deal here.

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Anonymous wrote:It may stem from religion but they also do it for social and cultural reasons. And they are second to men in that respect...

You think you know all about Islam, and you probably know no muslims.

In America, the ultimate glass ceiling is the White House. Well, the three largest muslim countries in the world have had female heads of state: Indonesia (President), Pakistan (Prime Minister), Bangladesh (Prime Minister, twice) and Turkey. Each of the women is Muslim.

Now if the world is so simple as you make it, how did majority muslim countries select women to lead them?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It may stem from religion but they also do it for social and cultural reasons. And they are second to men in that respect...

You think you know all about Islam, and you probably know no muslims.

In America, the ultimate glass ceiling is the White House. Well, the three largest muslim countries in the world have had female heads of state: Indonesia (President), Pakistan (Prime Minister), Bangladesh (Prime Minister, twice) and Turkey. Each of the women is Muslim.

Now if the world is so simple as you make it, how did majority muslim countries select women to lead them?

These women are from powerful, elite and wealthy families and have taken over when a suitable male was not available. Their status in no way reflects that of women in those countries.

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I 20:34 should add that those countries combined represent 1/3 of the muslims in the world, or 596 million muslims.

Stereotypes are a bitch.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It may stem from religion but they also do it for social and cultural reasons. And they are second to men in that respect...

You think you know all about Islam, and you probably know no muslims.

In America, the ultimate glass ceiling is the White House. Well, the three largest muslim countries in the world have had female heads of state: Indonesia (President), Pakistan (Prime Minister), Bangladesh (Prime Minister, twice) and Turkey. Each of the women is Muslim.

Now if the world is so simple as you make it, how did majority muslim countries select women to lead them?

These women are from powerful, elite and wealthy families and have taken over when a suitable male was not available. Their status in no way reflects that of women in those countries.

You are making excuses, and you can say that only about two of them.

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Newsflash! Women are second to men everywhere on the planet.

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Anonymous wrote:Newsflash! Women are second to men everywhere on the planet.

This.

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Anonymous wrote:She is just playing dress up - who cares if it is hijab or princess. Are you upset bc you are a feminist and the role bothered you? Would you have been happier if she dressed up as a male Saudi or a mechanic?
Kids role play - it is not any different then dressing up on Halloween (if you let her).
Off topic - just bc you are a feminist does not mean your daughter will be - and I hope you let her be the person that she wants to be.

Yup, I was thinking the same thing. What if, despite your best efforts of teaching "girl power", feminism, etc. your daughter grows up to do something completely opposite of your expectations (e.g. falls in love with a Muslim, decides to convert and wears hijab)?

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I'm worried my daughter will throw aside the feminist values I've tried to instill and change her name when/if she marries.

We all have these little hopes for our kids, but they'll do whatever they want. And, such is life as a parent: responsible for all and in control of very little.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm worried my daughter will throw aside the feminist values I've tried to instill and change her name when/if she marries.

We all have these little hopes for our kids, but they'll do whatever they want. And, such is life as a parent: responsible for all and in control of very little.

This thing about changing last names after marriage is an American practice. Women in other parts of the (non-feminist) world maintain their last names. Three countries com to mind, but I'm sure there's more: Russia, Korea, China. I'm sure there's more.

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Anonymous wrote:What about American Muslims in the US?
I do it for my faith. I am second to no man. to.

But certainly a number of quranic rules relating to womens' rights in marriage, divorce, inheritance and value as witnesses do put women second to men.