Conservative Scott McConnell advises Vance to invoke 25th amendment

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Catholics ain't gonna change their dislike of Vance anytime soon.

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Anonymous wrote:JD Vance, the same guy who wants to go to Area 51 because he wants to test his theory on whether the UFO visitors are aliens or demons?

What a complete kook.

Vance is that guy you went to college with that would say outrageous things in class and pretend like he believed them because he liked the attention, wanted to needle people, enjoyed th argument, etc. he had no real beliefs. He is just constantly seeking attention and validation and for people to think he’s smart. (RFK on the other hand, truly believes all his kookery, and is also addicted to the attention.)

Yes, exactly.
He loves to give his provocative opinions on things that shouldn't matter to a politician. He is a freaking waste of space.

If he opposed the attack, as has been reported, why isn't he saying anthing now? He is living in la-la land and thinks it's all a debate. If he was a decent person, he'd show some courage and defy Trump. At this stage, it would probably ultimately help his career. But he won't because he's in the game to talk about religion and cat ladies.

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It’s amazing how many people on this platform have clearly never watched a real negotiation with a terrorist regime or any terrorist entity for that matter. This isn’t sunshine and rainbows. It’s pressure, consequences, and making it unmistakably clear that if the Iranian regime won’t change their ways, they highly risk being ended.

Let’s get something straight, because this keeps getting butchered, the civilization he is talking about ending is the Islamist regime, the ass####$ that took over 47 years ago and literally ruined the original Persian civilization in Iran that no one in the west seems to ever show empathy for. That distinction shouldn’t be this hard. And no, they shouldn’t be forced to be subservient to terrorists for another 50 years because you with 50,000 followers on some social media echo chamber said so.

While some rush to defend a failed terrorist state, that same regime has been hanging teenagers this whole past week. I’ve seen zero concern over that, they’ve also been sending 12 year olds to be cannon fodder. Spare me the outrage.

And to those immediately spiraling into “this means nuclear war,” please chill and relax a little. All this literally is ending a future nuclear threat. Not every hard-line equals global catastrophe. That’s not how this works. You’ve grown so used to watching terrorist pandering that you don’t even recognize what resolve looks like. The regime are paper tigers let them fold or make a choice that will lead to their ultimate demise.

As Winston Churchill put it, “We shall show mercy, but we shall not ask for it.”

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We will kill the civilization to free them.
uh huh

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

It’s amazing how many people on this platform have clearly never watched a real negotiation with a terrorist regime or any terrorist entity for that matter. This isn’t sunshine and rainbows. It’s pressure, consequences, and making it unmistakably clear that if the Iranian regime won’t change their ways, they highly risk being ended.

Let’s get something straight, because this keeps getting butchered, the civilization he is talking about ending is the Islamist regime, the ass####$ that took over 47 years ago and literally ruined the original Persian civilization in Iran that no one in the west seems to ever show empathy for. That distinction shouldn’t be this hard. And no, they shouldn’t be forced to be subservient to terrorists for another 50 years because you with 50,000 followers on some social media echo chamber said so.

While some rush to defend a failed terrorist state, that same regime has been hanging teenagers this whole past week. I’ve seen zero concern over that, they’ve also been sending 12 year olds to be cannon fodder. Spare me the outrage.

And to those immediately spiraling into “this means nuclear war,” please chill and relax a little. All this literally is ending a future nuclear threat. Not every hard-line equals global catastrophe. That’s not how this works. You’ve grown so used to watching terrorist pandering that you don’t even recognize what resolve looks like. The regime are paper tigers let them fold or make a choice that will lead to their ultimate demise.

As Winston Churchill put it, “We shall show mercy, but we shall not ask for it.”

Gross. And, wrong. Trump's statement is the exact definition of terrorism.

To call this strategic is gross negligence.

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The only people who like Vance are the people who haven't met him.

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Anonymous wrote:

Catholics ain't gonna change their dislike of Vance anytime soon.

What about their dislike of murder? Will they stand by that?

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Killing a civilization is a war crime. No fan of Iran (I work in cybersecurity so yeah they suck) but Trump’s threats are immoral. We are supposed to be better than a terrorist state!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

It’s amazing how many people on this platform have clearly never watched a real negotiation with a terrorist regime or any terrorist entity for that matter. This isn’t sunshine and rainbows. It’s pressure, consequences, and making it unmistakably clear that if the Iranian regime won’t change their ways, they highly risk being ended.

Let’s get something straight, because this keeps getting butchered, the civilization he is talking about ending is the Islamist regime, the ass####$ that took over 47 years ago and literally ruined the original Persian civilization in Iran that no one in the west seems to ever show empathy for. That distinction shouldn’t be this hard. And no, they shouldn’t be forced to be subservient to terrorists for another 50 years because you with 50,000 followers on some social media echo chamber said so.

While some rush to defend a failed terrorist state, that same regime has been hanging teenagers this whole past week. I’ve seen zero concern over that, they’ve also been sending 12 year olds to be cannon fodder. Spare me the outrage.

And to those immediately spiraling into “this means nuclear war,” please chill and relax a little. All this literally is ending a future nuclear threat. Not every hard-line equals global catastrophe. That’s not how this works. You’ve grown so used to watching terrorist pandering that you don’t even recognize what resolve looks like. The regime are paper tigers let them fold or make a choice that will lead to their ultimate demise.

As Winston Churchill put it, “We shall show mercy, but we shall not ask for it.”

You don't make threats unless you're willing to follow them up.

So the question is whether Trump actually follows up his threats, or if he does a little half-step or no-step maneuver to get out of destroying all of Iran -- and thus looks weak and shows that Iran holds all the cards.

The U.S. loses either way. That's why the man should not be president. We are in a lose-lose situation that HE created.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

It’s amazing how many people on this platform have clearly never watched a real negotiation with a terrorist regime or any terrorist entity for that matter. This isn’t sunshine and rainbows. It’s pressure, consequences, and making it unmistakably clear that if the Iranian regime won’t change their ways, they highly risk being ended.

Let’s get something straight, because this keeps getting butchered, the civilization he is talking about ending is the Islamist regime, the ass####$ that took over 47 years ago and literally ruined the original Persian civilization in Iran that no one in the west seems to ever show empathy for. That distinction shouldn’t be this hard. And no, they shouldn’t be forced to be subservient to terrorists for another 50 years because you with 50,000 followers on some social media echo chamber said so.

While some rush to defend a failed terrorist state, that same regime has been hanging teenagers this whole past week. I’ve seen zero concern over that, they’ve also been sending 12 year olds to be cannon fodder. Spare me the outrage.

And to those immediately spiraling into “this means nuclear war,” please chill and relax a little. All this literally is ending a future nuclear threat. Not every hard-line equals global catastrophe. That’s not how this works. You’ve grown so used to watching terrorist pandering that you don’t even recognize what resolve looks like. The regime are paper tigers let them fold or make a choice that will lead to their ultimate demise.

As Winston Churchill put it, “We shall show mercy, but we shall not ask for it.”

You don't make threats unless you're willing to follow them up.

So the question is whether Trump actually follows up his threats, or if he does a little half-step or no-step maneuver to get out of destroying all of Iran -- and thus looks weak and shows that Iran holds all the cards.

The U.S. loses either way. That's why the man should not be president. We are in a lose-lose situation that HE created.

But the point is that he shouldn't be destroying ANYTHING. History should have taught us that regime change is extremely risky to the wellbeing of the oppressed population. Iranians are suffering enormously under their extremist government, but no American intervention was going to make things better for them.

I knew that, lots of people knew that. I don't know why some can't see it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

It’s amazing how many people on this platform have clearly never watched a real negotiation with a terrorist regime or any terrorist entity for that matter. This isn’t sunshine and rainbows. It’s pressure, consequences, and making it unmistakably clear that if the Iranian regime won’t change their ways, they highly risk being ended.

Let’s get something straight, because this keeps getting butchered, the civilization he is talking about ending is the Islamist regime, the ass####$ that took over 47 years ago and literally ruined the original Persian civilization in Iran that no one in the west seems to ever show empathy for. That distinction shouldn’t be this hard. And no, they shouldn’t be forced to be subservient to terrorists for another 50 years because you with 50,000 followers on some social media echo chamber said so.

While some rush to defend a failed terrorist state, that same regime has been hanging teenagers this whole past week. I’ve seen zero concern over that, they’ve also been sending 12 year olds to be cannon fodder. Spare me the outrage.

And to those immediately spiraling into “this means nuclear war,” please chill and relax a little. All this literally is ending a future nuclear threat. Not every hard-line equals global catastrophe. That’s not how this works. You’ve grown so used to watching terrorist pandering that you don’t even recognize what resolve looks like. The regime are paper tigers let them fold or make a choice that will lead to their ultimate demise.

As Winston Churchill put it, “We shall show mercy, but we shall not ask for it.”

You don't make threats unless you're willing to follow them up.

So the question is whether Trump actually follows up his threats, or if he does a little half-step or no-step maneuver to get out of destroying all of Iran -- and thus looks weak and shows that Iran holds all the cards.

The U.S. loses either way. That's why the man should not be president. We are in a lose-lose situation that HE created.

But the point is that he shouldn't be destroying ANYTHING. History should have taught us that regime change is extremely risky to the wellbeing of the oppressed population. Iranians are suffering enormously under their extremist government, but no American intervention was going to make things better for them.

I knew that, lots of people knew that. I don't know why some can't see it.

I absolutely concur that Trump shouldn't be destroying anything, but Trump's method throughout his entire political career is to make wild and bombastic threats, then backpedal. It throws people off balance, and sometimes folks make concessions when Trump approaches with a less-insane proposal. So I feel (I hope!) Trump's just doing his typical wild, pointless threat.

And Iran knows that, so they're just sitting back and waiting for Trump to play chicken and back away.

Trump made a threat that is so wild that everyone knows he will not follow up with it. He's not going to nuke another country. That would not only be a war crimes but the international response (sanctions, cutting off the U.S. from world trade and markets, calling in debts, etc.) would destroy the U.S. But he's also put the U.S. in a weak bargaining position because he's posing empty threats to commit war crimes. He's not negotiating anything; he's making the situation worse.

Someone needs to take his phone away from him and duct tape his mouth.

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Wow, one GOP does the bare minimum.

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Anonymous wrote:

Wow, one GOP does the bare minimum.

My thoughts exactly.