Anti aging and pedophilic patriarchy

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Anonymous wrote:"Are more women finally making the connection between the beauty industries emphasis on anti-aging products and the pedophilic nature of patriarchy? has it finally hit you that your obsession with not looking "old" caters to the predatory male gaze?"

Agree or disagree?

Agree. Knowing that many of the crass trends like fake nails, removing pubic hair etc came from porn. Porn stars even started a trend of anal bleaching. It’s disgusting.

I was wondering when fake nails would make their debut in this thread. Never change DCUM.

dp.. I did not know that the fake nails trend came from porn stars. I also find the whole decorated fake nails really odd on women. I always found it trashy, and I guess now I know why.

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Men do not want to see us as equals. We are more alike then they give us credit for. We are not waify, prepubescent maidens.

Our genitalia is the only difference, and it's more pronounced with larger breasts and less pubic hair.

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Anonymous wrote:I wouldn't want to date a bald man with a paunch so guess there are biases on both sides.

Sure, but having some kind of bush = woman. Being bald down there = prepubescent.

Eh, give it a rest.

"Having some kind of facial hair = man. Being cleanshaven = prepubescent."

This gets boring so fast.

Yes, exactly. Lots of youthful looking men grow facial hair precisely for the reason that - they look prepubescent without facial hair.

But, if the man without the facial hair looks like an adult, it doesn't matter.

Unlike a man's face, you can't really tell the age of a woman by looking at her shaved pubic area. So, if she has no hair there, yes, it can look prepubescent.

Please stop shaving your armpits and legs immediately. You look prepubescent if you shave those. See how dumb you sound. Stop policing what women do with their bodies.

But if a woman didn't shave or wax her armpits or legs, she would be policed for it instantly. She would be called gross and unhygienic.

The policing is happening already, all the time.

All the more reason for other women to stop saying dumb shit about women who choose to wax.

I get what you're saying, and I'm not the person who was criticizing waxing, but I actually agree with them that we should ask ourselves what the norms are and why. I don't judge a woman who waxes, but I do question a man who prefers it. And I do wonder about the way we talk about hair on women (other than their heads) as unclean or unhygienic. It's worth discussing.

Certainly it is women who don't conform to a hairless standard who get criticism cause zed more than the other way around, yes?

Because hair is seen as masculine, but I don’t think it has anything to do with pedophilia.

It’s because hair is seen as “messy” and “untidy”, and women are expected to be tidy.

Men are expected to be tidy too.

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Anonymous wrote:Anti aging is about looking 25, not 17.

This. Plus at 48 no matter what I do, I will never ever look even 30 much less like a child.

So dumb. I really hate when other women create these dumb posts to tell us what we should be doing with our bodies. Go gray, never shave, be flabby. WHO CARES. I'll do whatever I damn well please with my body. I dont have to justify it to anyone.

How can a 50 year old look 25? What does that entail?

I think there's been a cultural shift away from trying to look younger in favor of trying to look good for your age. There are so many women in their forties (Giselle, Jessica Alba) and fifties (Halle Barry, Heidi Klum, Nicole Kidman) who still look gorgeous. It's not about looking 25; it's about looking and feeling your best for as long as you can.

Hollywood women have to look youthful. Their livelihoods are based on looks, not necessarily on talent. Why is that? Because most of Hollywood is controlled by men.

Some women are trying to change that - like Jessica Alba owns Honest Company, and Nicole Kidman is an accomplished producer.

Some men in Hollywood are also desperately trying to hold on to their looks, like Brad Pitt and Tom Cruise have had work done.

The desire to look good for as long as possible is not solely grounded in patriarchy.

But again, these are Hollywood people who live on their looks. And I think actually, Hollywood is an exaggerated reflection of our society, or is society a reflection of Hollywood?

Women want to appear youthful because society has *always* valued younger women than older women, and most societies are controlled by men.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:"Are more women finally making the connection between the beauty industries emphasis on anti-aging products and the pedophilic nature of patriarchy? has it finally hit you that your obsession with not looking "old" caters to the predatory male gaze?"

Agree or disagree?

Agree. Knowing that many of the crass trends like fake nails, removing pubic hair etc came from porn. Porn stars even started a trend of anal bleaching. It’s disgusting.

I was wondering when fake nails would make their debut in this thread. Never change DCUM.

dp.. I did not know that the fake nails trend came from porn stars. I also find the whole decorated fake nails really odd on women. I always found it trashy, and I guess now I know why.

It didn't. Women have been painting their nails for centuries. Before then, it was henna. But some miserable shrews (and I mean you) just can't seem to mind their own business. No one cares what you think about their nails.

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No, but they should. Aging should be embraced by both men and women. But the fact that women hate physically aging, not men, shows how they’re sticking to the idea that only young women are valuable in society, and that a women’s sexual appeal (again, YOUNG), is what makes her matter.

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Anonymous wrote:"Are more women finally making the connection between the beauty industries emphasis on anti-aging products and the pedophilic nature of patriarchy? has it finally hit you that your obsession with not looking "old" caters to the predatory male gaze?"

Agree or disagree?

Agree. Knowing that many of the crass trends like fake nails, removing pubic hair etc came from porn. Porn stars even started a trend of anal bleaching. It’s disgusting.

I was wondering when fake nails would make their debut in this thread. Never change DCUM.

dp.. I did not know that the fake nails trend came from porn stars. I also find the whole decorated fake nails really odd on women. I always found it trashy, and I guess now I know why.

It didn't. Women have been painting their nails for centuries. Before then, it was henna. But some miserable shrews (and I mean you) just can't seem to mind their own business. No one cares what you think about their nails.

Yah, people will believe anything. And women also love to blame everything on p0rn.

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Anonymous wrote:I wouldn't want to date a bald man with a paunch so guess there are biases on both sides.

Sure, but having some kind of bush = woman. Being bald down there = prepubescent.

Eh, give it a rest.

"Having some kind of facial hair = man. Being cleanshaven = prepubescent."

This gets boring so fast.

Yes, exactly. Lots of youthful looking men grow facial hair precisely for the reason that - they look prepubescent without facial hair.

But, if the man without the facial hair looks like an adult, it doesn't matter.

Unlike a man's face, you can't really tell the age of a woman by looking at her shaved pubic area. So, if she has no hair there, yes, it can look prepubescent.

Please stop shaving your armpits and legs immediately. You look prepubescent if you shave those. See how dumb you sound. Stop policing what women do with their bodies.

But if a woman didn't shave or wax her armpits or legs, she would be policed for it instantly. She would be called gross and unhygienic.

The policing is happening already, all the time.

All the more reason for other women to stop saying dumb shit about women who choose to wax.

I get what you're saying, and I'm not the person who was criticizing waxing, but I actually agree with them that we should ask ourselves what the norms are and why. I don't judge a woman who waxes, but I do question a man who prefers it. And I do wonder about the way we talk about hair on women (other than their heads) as unclean or unhygienic. It's worth discussing.

Certainly it is women who don't conform to a hairless standard who get criticism cause zed more than the other way around, yes?

Because hair is seen as masculine, but I don’t think it has anything to do with pedophilia.

Then you are incorrect. Hair is a function of an adult body. Period.

So you don't shave anything, right?

ask yourself why women started shaving? BTW, lots of European women don't shave their pits or legs.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"Are more women finally making the connection between the beauty industries emphasis on anti-aging products and the pedophilic nature of patriarchy? has it finally hit you that your obsession with not looking "old" caters to the predatory male gaze?"

Agree or disagree?

Agree. Knowing that many of the crass trends like fake nails, removing pubic hair etc came from porn. Porn stars even started a trend of anal bleaching. It’s disgusting.

I was wondering when fake nails would make their debut in this thread. Never change DCUM.

dp.. I did not know that the fake nails trend came from porn stars. I also find the whole decorated fake nails really odd on women. I always found it trashy, and I guess now I know why.

It didn't. Women have been painting their nails for centuries. Before then, it was henna. But some miserable shrews (and I mean you) just can't seem to mind their own business. No one cares what you think about their nails.

You sure are defensive for someone who doesn't care about what people think. I thought the pro-groomers said women do these things for other women.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"Are more women finally making the connection between the beauty industries emphasis on anti-aging products and the pedophilic nature of patriarchy? has it finally hit you that your obsession with not looking "old" caters to the predatory male gaze?"

Agree or disagree?

Agree. Knowing that many of the crass trends like fake nails, removing pubic hair etc came from porn. Porn stars even started a trend of anal bleaching. It’s disgusting.

I was wondering when fake nails would make their debut in this thread. Never change DCUM.

dp.. I did not know that the fake nails trend came from porn stars. I also find the whole decorated fake nails really odd on women. I always found it trashy, and I guess now I know why.

It didn't. Women have been painting their nails for centuries. Before then, it was henna. But some miserable shrews (and I mean you) just can't seem to mind their own business. No one cares what you think about their nails.

Yah, people will believe anything. And women also love to blame everything on p0rn.

I think a lot of men do have expectations of women based on porn.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"Are more women finally making the connection between the beauty industries emphasis on anti-aging products and the pedophilic nature of patriarchy? has it finally hit you that your obsession with not looking "old" caters to the predatory male gaze?"

Agree or disagree?

Agree. Knowing that many of the crass trends like fake nails, removing pubic hair etc came from porn. Porn stars even started a trend of anal bleaching. It’s disgusting.

I hate it so much. How many girls having their first experience have exposed their teenage body to their boyfriend only to have him express disgust that she wasn’t hairless? It happened to me and so many others circa 2002. A teenage boy should be nothing but rapturous that he’s getting real sex but they’ve all watched so much porn that they’re barely interested.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Anti aging is about looking 25, not 17.

This. Plus at 48 no matter what I do, I will never ever look even 30 much less like a child.

So dumb. I really hate when other women create these dumb posts to tell us what we should be doing with our bodies. Go gray, never shave, be flabby. WHO CARES. I'll do whatever I damn well please with my body. I dont have to justify it to anyone.

Riiight. You don’t care. Great for you. Admit it that part of this system is non stop pressure to look younger for men, to be concerned about young women being around our partners, to speak “gently” never being straightforward about what we want etc. You’re not being honest when you try to deny that this pressure is pervasive and non stop.

It’s ludicrous and delusional to deny this.

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Anonymous wrote:I wouldn't want to date a bald man with a paunch so guess there are biases on both sides.

Sure, but having some kind of bush = woman. Being bald down there = prepubescent.

Eh, give it a rest.

"Having some kind of facial hair = man. Being cleanshaven = prepubescent."

This gets boring so fast.

Yes, exactly. Lots of youthful looking men grow facial hair precisely for the reason that - they look prepubescent without facial hair.

But, if the man without the facial hair looks like an adult, it doesn't matter.

Unlike a man's face, you can't really tell the age of a woman by looking at her shaved pubic area. So, if she has no hair there, yes, it can look prepubescent.

Please stop shaving your armpits and legs immediately. You look prepubescent if you shave those. See how dumb you sound. Stop policing what women do with their bodies.

But if a woman didn't shave or wax her armpits or legs, she would be policed for it instantly. She would be called gross and unhygienic.

The policing is happening already, all the time.

All the more reason for other women to stop saying dumb shit about women who choose to wax.

I get what you're saying, and I'm not the person who was criticizing waxing, but I actually agree with them that we should ask ourselves what the norms are and why. I don't judge a woman who waxes, but I do question a man who prefers it. And I do wonder about the way we talk about hair on women (other than their heads) as unclean or unhygienic. It's worth discussing.

Certainly it is women who don't conform to a hairless standard who get criticism cause zed more than the other way around, yes?

Because hair is seen as masculine, but I don’t think it has anything to do with pedophilia.

Then you are incorrect. Hair is a function of an adult body. Period.

So you don't shave anything, right?

ask yourself why women started shaving? BTW, lots of European women don't shave their pits or legs.

No, answer the question. Do you shave?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"Are more women finally making the connection between the beauty industries emphasis on anti-aging products and the pedophilic nature of patriarchy? has it finally hit you that your obsession with not looking "old" caters to the predatory male gaze?"

Agree or disagree?

Agree. Knowing that many of the crass trends like fake nails, removing pubic hair etc came from porn. Porn stars even started a trend of anal bleaching. It’s disgusting.

I was wondering when fake nails would make their debut in this thread. Never change DCUM.

dp.. I did not know that the fake nails trend came from porn stars. I also find the whole decorated fake nails really odd on women. I always found it trashy, and I guess now I know why.

It didn't. Women have been painting their nails for centuries. Before then, it was henna. But some miserable shrews (and I mean you) just can't seem to mind their own business. No one cares what you think about their nails.

You sure are defensive for someone who doesn't care about what people think. I thought the pro-groomers said women do these things for other women.

Correcting your stupidity does not make me angry. I guess you had to resort to calling me a pro-groomer since nothing you said about my personal choices has any merit. You are the worst kind of woman.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:"Are more women finally making the connection between the beauty industries emphasis on anti-aging products and the pedophilic nature of patriarchy? has it finally hit you that your obsession with not looking "old" caters to the predatory male gaze?"

Agree or disagree?

Agree. Patriarchy, rape culture, pedophile culture. It's the world we live in and informs everything. Religion, politics, media, advertising. And it's almost impossible to grasp the extent. Naming it is a start. Workplace sexual harassment and date rape were concepts that didn't exist 50 years ago. Once we named it we could start to fight back.

The beauty industry encourages eating disorders and body modification. I support individuals expressing themselves however they choose. It's impossible for me to judge how much of what we do is truly an individual decision, and not due to social conditioning.

Exactly.