Anti aging and pedophilic patriarchy

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:^tl;dr Divorcee turns out to be an even more boring writer than chatgpt.

Seriously. This all boils down to one thing: women can do whatever they want to their own bodies for their own reasons. It's extremely *anti*feminist to suggest that women removing unwanted hair is done only because of men. Obviously, many of us prefer it that way and would even if men didn't exist. Trying to make this into some kind of academic treatise is ridiculous. Anyone who cares this deeply about what OTHER people choose to do with their own bodies is the real problem.

NP.

You know there are entire academic disciplines that study this kind of thing, correct?

I find this universal policing of conversations you specifically don’t want to be having very strange. Seems like it would easier to remove yourself and let the people interested engage.

Yes. Thank you. How can we challenge and change the status quo if we aren't willing/allowed to discuss it?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^tl;dr Divorcee turns out to be an even more boring writer than chatgpt.

Seriously. This all boils down to one thing: women can do whatever they want to their own bodies for their own reasons. It's extremely *anti*feminist to suggest that women removing unwanted hair is done only because of men. Obviously, many of us prefer it that way and would even if men didn't exist. Trying to make this into some kind of academic treatise is ridiculous. Anyone who cares this deeply about what OTHER people choose to do with their own bodies is the real problem.

NP.

You know there are entire academic disciplines that study this kind of thing, correct?

I find this universal policing of conversations you specifically don’t want to be having very strange. Seems like it would easier to remove yourself and let the people interested engage.

When your premise is faulty, people who disagree with you have every right to speak up. Your premise being that women who remove unwanted body hair do it because of the "male gaze." Those of us who disagree with you are stating - loud and clear - that we remove hair because WE want to. So your premise is wrong. Get it?

[Anonymous]

Disagree, partly…

I feel like women get plastic surgery and botox and fillers for other women, not for men…

Most women don’t want to look like they did under 18, do they? I wouldn’t mind looking like I did in my 20s or early 30s though…

[Anonymous]

I'm extremely interested in where current beauty standards come from. Ancient Egyptians, Greeks, and Romans removed body hair. Were their reasons the same as ours? How much does media influence our decisions versus a universal human inclination towards certain grooming practices.

The conversations in the Epstein files about taking girls to be waxed certainly got my attention. And bothered me.

[Anonymous]

I am 52 and was born and raised in India till I came to the US for college. It was/is traditional for women to remove body hair. We would wax our arms, underarms and legs regularly starting at puberty, either at home or in the salon. We also got our eyebrows and upper lip threaded. I don’t know what the general bikini area situation at the time was since women of my social circle didn’t wear bathing suits, but my mom suggested I trim the edges.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am 52 and was born and raised in India till I came to the US for college. It was/is traditional for women to remove body hair. We would wax our arms, underarms and legs regularly starting at puberty, either at home or in the salon. We also got our eyebrows and upper lip threaded. I don’t know what the general bikini area situation at the time was since women of my social circle didn’t wear bathing suits, but my mom suggested I trim the edges.

I am 51 and Indian. Your comments are very regional. I come from an area where hair removal on the face is not uncommon but body hair removal is not common.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:"What Epstein shows us is that we all live in a paedophilac culture"

Carole Cadwalladr on her sub stack How to Survive the Broliarchy. An investigative journalist who writes about tech.

It's a thoughtful response to what's being revealed.

OK. Let's punish the pedophiles then. Let's make an example of them. Castration. It's abhorrent and should not be tolerated. But let's not pile on middle-aged grown women who are not pedophiles and are not predators as though we are part of the problem. Dig out the problem at the root.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Oh please. My botox just kicked in and I can finally look at myself without cringing. It's for me. Same with bikini wax. All for me. Stop acting like we don't have agency over what we actually like on our own bodies.

I don't like crop tops like the younger girls wear so I don't wear them. I don't like long hair barrel curls so I don't do those.

It’s all for you because you learned to hate the way you look naturally. Where did you learn it?

+1 most women in other cultures don't go bald. The porn industry made it popular.

It's a weird thing when men like big boobs (woman) but like it shaved (prepubescent). It's like they want a prepubescent girl with big boobs. Ew.

What? All my Arab female relatives remove body hair. I doubt they've seen much porn.

[Anonymous]

So shaving everywhere is a new 21st century thing?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^tl;dr Divorcee turns out to be an even more boring writer than chatgpt.

Seriously. This all boils down to one thing: women can do whatever they want to their own bodies for their own reasons. It's extremely *anti*feminist to suggest that women removing unwanted hair is done only because of men. Obviously, many of us prefer it that way and would even if men didn't exist. Trying to make this into some kind of academic treatise is ridiculous. Anyone who cares this deeply about what OTHER people choose to do with their own bodies is the real problem.

NP.

You know there are entire academic disciplines that study this kind of thing, correct?

I find this universal policing of conversations you specifically don’t want to be having very strange. Seems like it would easier to remove yourself and let the people interested engage.

When your premise is faulty, people who disagree with you have every right to speak up. Your premise being that women who remove unwanted body hair do it because of the "male gaze." Those of us who disagree with you are stating - loud and clear - that we remove hair because WE want to. So your premise is wrong. Get it?

NP means new poster. This is now my second post in this thread.

MY premise was you don’t get to shut down others conversations because YOU don’t want to engage in them. That’s the height of entitlement that you believe only things you want to talk about are worth discussing. In this situation it was about the topic at hand, but it can be generally applied independently of hair removal discussions.