How are your Aug-Dec kids doing re:offers?

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Anonymous wrote:Have any Q3 and Q4s gotten offers from a higher level team in the lower age group?
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That goes against club interest

I am curious to know this as well


Can you explain how this goes against club interest? I legitimately do not understand, but I’m confident I’m missing something and you must be right.
Clubs don't like to promote within their club because it doesn't make them more money and blocks top slots that they can use to offer outsiders, meaning more money for the club.


I think that’s less likely this year. There’s a whole 5 months of birthdates to pull from within the club itself. Clubs would be silly not to evaluate those kids, current kids and new kids.

My DD is a Q4, and if she isn’t moved up a level or two by going down an age group, we will look elsewhere. We know the kids on the age group below for rec soccer, so we know where we fit in, and it’s definitely not the same level as the one we are playing in at the older age group.

Correct as you defined if the club has multiple players available for every roster position they're not going to let grade older players play down on the team. Its just much easier for clubs to avoid the 8th grade season challenges and misaligned recruiting issues.

You might see grade older players playing down on B and C teams but nobody really cares how these teams perform so it doesnt matter.


Not talking the grade older nonsense. These are the kids born in Oct-Dec that naturally will be moving “down” an age group bc of the change to SY. They are joining teams where the kids are all in their grade.

Even with Oct-Dec depending on when the school starts some players will go down 2 levels when switching from BY to SY. In this case players will have to play up to be on the correct grade in school team.
What are you talking about about, 2 levels? Each club is different , not a discussion of grade here.

Just stop. College coaches recruit by graduating year so yes grade matters.

Depending on when an Aug birthday occurs and when their school cutoff occurs BY players changing to SY might go to a correct grade in school team or they'll be the one player a grade older on team where everyone is a grade younger. Usually in the second situation players choose to play up so they're on the team thats their grade in school.
Not an advice column here. Players can't choose what team offers will come from. Clubs make offers and they don't have grades.

Clubs that dont accommodate parent requests wont be in business long. Also aligning players by grade is easier for clubs.
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Anonymous wrote:Kid has q3 bday and is repeating age group. On 2nd team now and will be on 1st team next year. Had some new age group scrimmages the past couple weeks and DC looked like one of the best kids out there.


Congrats! I think this is what most Aug/Sept parents expected would happen for their kid, but from this thread, it seems that isn't the case.
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Anonymous wrote:Have any Q3 and Q4s gotten offers from a higher level team in the lower age group?
bwahahahahahaha

That goes against club interest

I am curious to know this as well


Can you explain how this goes against club interest? I legitimately do not understand, but I’m confident I’m missing something and you must be right.
Clubs don't like to promote within their club because it doesn't make them more money and blocks top slots that they can use to offer outsiders, meaning more money for the club.


I think that’s less likely this year. There’s a whole 5 months of birthdates to pull from within the club itself. Clubs would be silly not to evaluate those kids, current kids and new kids.

My DD is a Q4, and if she isn’t moved up a level or two by going down an age group, we will look elsewhere. We know the kids on the age group below for rec soccer, so we know where we fit in, and it’s definitely not the same level as the one we are playing in at the older age group.

Correct as you defined if the club has multiple players available for every roster position they're not going to let grade older players play down on the team. Its just much easier for clubs to avoid the 8th grade season challenges and misaligned recruiting issues.

You might see grade older players playing down on B and C teams but nobody really cares how these teams perform so it doesnt matter.


Not talking the grade older nonsense. These are the kids born in Oct-Dec that naturally will be moving “down” an age group bc of the change to SY. They are joining teams where the kids are all in their grade.

Even with Oct-Dec depending on when the school starts some players will go down 2 levels when switching from BY to SY. In this case players will have to play up to be on the correct grade in school team.
What are you talking about about, 2 levels? Each club is different , not a discussion of grade here.

Just stop. College coaches recruit by graduating year so yes grade matters.

Depending on when an Aug birthday occurs and when their school cutoff occurs BY players changing to SY might go to a correct grade in school team or they'll be the one player a grade older on team where everyone is a grade younger. Usually in the second situation players choose to play up so they're on the team thats their grade in school.
Not an advice column here. Players can't choose what team offers will come from. Clubs make offers and they don't have grades.


Graduation year matters for the smallest piece of the puzzle
The major parts are about soccer and character

Still though, no league goes by school or Graduation year


All of this date changing serves colleges and their desire to better organize American players for recruiting. It serves clubs so they can get an extra year of money. The fact that most college programs fill large portions of their rosters with grown men who’ve washed out of Euro academies or with transfer portal juco guys tells you how little they truly care about a player’s age. If anything, from a recruiting standpoint, it’s an advantage to be older in your grade, especially if you attend a so-called “soccer high school” that has placed players before.

I’m not a fan of the “lemmings” jab from our very straightforward friend on other threads, but all this chatter about future college recruiting for 11- and 12-year-olds is over the top. If a kid is good enough, they’ll want him. If he has to scramble just to be seen, he’s probably not a true college prospect anyway.

Birth year, school year, leap year, whatever year, it won’t matter for 85 percent of these kids, and that’s generous. Most won’t play college or pro ball. And if they are recruited, it will likely be by schools they can get into academically anyway. I know people say clubs “place” players, but to which schools? I don’t need help getting into Eastern Maryland State at Bowie, or its Virginia equivalent.

None of this matters.
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Anonymous wrote:Have any Q3 and Q4s gotten offers from a higher level team in the lower age group?
bwahahahahahaha

That goes against club interest

I am curious to know this as well


Can you explain how this goes against club interest? I legitimately do not understand, but I’m confident I’m missing something and you must be right.
Clubs don't like to promote within their club because it doesn't make them more money and blocks top slots that they can use to offer outsiders, meaning more money for the club.


I think that’s less likely this year. There’s a whole 5 months of birthdates to pull from within the club itself. Clubs would be silly not to evaluate those kids, current kids and new kids.

My DD is a Q4, and if she isn’t moved up a level or two by going down an age group, we will look elsewhere. We know the kids on the age group below for rec soccer, so we know where we fit in, and it’s definitely not the same level as the one we are playing in at the older age group.

Correct as you defined if the club has multiple players available for every roster position they're not going to let grade older players play down on the team. Its just much easier for clubs to avoid the 8th grade season challenges and misaligned recruiting issues.

You might see grade older players playing down on B and C teams but nobody really cares how these teams perform so it doesnt matter.


Not talking the grade older nonsense. These are the kids born in Oct-Dec that naturally will be moving “down” an age group bc of the change to SY. They are joining teams where the kids are all in their grade.

Even with Oct-Dec depending on when the school starts some players will go down 2 levels when switching from BY to SY. In this case players will have to play up to be on the correct grade in school team.
What are you talking about about, 2 levels? Each club is different , not a discussion of grade here.

Just stop. College coaches recruit by graduating year so yes grade matters.

Depending on when an Aug birthday occurs and when their school cutoff occurs BY players changing to SY might go to a correct grade in school team or they'll be the one player a grade older on team where everyone is a grade younger. Usually in the second situation players choose to play up so they're on the team thats their grade in school.
Not an advice column here. Players can't choose what team offers will come from. Clubs make offers and they don't have grades.

Clubs that dont accommodate parent requests wont be in business long. Also aligning players by grade is easier for clubs.
Clubs that accommodate requests won't be in business long. Soccer is a competitive sport, you have to earn playing, it's a central tenet of sports. it isn't requested nicely.
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Anonymous wrote:Have any Q3 and Q4s gotten offers from a higher level team in the lower age group?
bwahahahahahaha

That goes against club interest

I am curious to know this as well


Can you explain how this goes against club interest? I legitimately do not understand, but I’m confident I’m missing something and you must be right.
Clubs don't like to promote within their club because it doesn't make them more money and blocks top slots that they can use to offer outsiders, meaning more money for the club.


I think that’s less likely this year. There’s a whole 5 months of birthdates to pull from within the club itself. Clubs would be silly not to evaluate those kids, current kids and new kids.

My DD is a Q4, and if she isn’t moved up a level or two by going down an age group, we will look elsewhere. We know the kids on the age group below for rec soccer, so we know where we fit in, and it’s definitely not the same level as the one we are playing in at the older age group.

Correct as you defined if the club has multiple players available for every roster position they're not going to let grade older players play down on the team. Its just much easier for clubs to avoid the 8th grade season challenges and misaligned recruiting issues.

You might see grade older players playing down on B and C teams but nobody really cares how these teams perform so it doesnt matter.


Not talking the grade older nonsense. These are the kids born in Oct-Dec that naturally will be moving “down” an age group bc of the change to SY. They are joining teams where the kids are all in their grade.

Even with Oct-Dec depending on when the school starts some players will go down 2 levels when switching from BY to SY. In this case players will have to play up to be on the correct grade in school team.
What are you talking about about, 2 levels? Each club is different , not a discussion of grade here.

Just stop. College coaches recruit by graduating year so yes grade matters.

Depending on when an Aug birthday occurs and when their school cutoff occurs BY players changing to SY might go to a correct grade in school team or they'll be the one player a grade older on team where everyone is a grade younger. Usually in the second situation players choose to play up so they're on the team thats their grade in school.
Not an advice column here. Players can't choose what team offers will come from. Clubs make offers and they don't have grades.

Clubs that dont accommodate parent requests wont be in business long. Also aligning players by grade is easier for clubs.
Clubs that accommodate requests won't be in business long. Soccer is a competitive sport, you have to earn playing, it's a central tenet of sports. it isn't requested nicely.


But clubs already accommodate some players/parents anyway. Do you know kids that play up already? I do.
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Anonymous wrote:Have any Q3 and Q4s gotten offers from a higher level team in the lower age group?
bwahahahahahaha

That goes against club interest

I am curious to know this as well


Can you explain how this goes against club interest? I legitimately do not understand, but I’m confident I’m missing something and you must be right.
Clubs don't like to promote within their club because it doesn't make them more money and blocks top slots that they can use to offer outsiders, meaning more money for the club.


I think that’s less likely this year. There’s a whole 5 months of birthdates to pull from within the club itself. Clubs would be silly not to evaluate those kids, current kids and new kids.

My DD is a Q4, and if she isn’t moved up a level or two by going down an age group, we will look elsewhere. We know the kids on the age group below for rec soccer, so we know where we fit in, and it’s definitely not the same level as the one we are playing in at the older age group.

Correct as you defined if the club has multiple players available for every roster position they're not going to let grade older players play down on the team. Its just much easier for clubs to avoid the 8th grade season challenges and misaligned recruiting issues.

You might see grade older players playing down on B and C teams but nobody really cares how these teams perform so it doesnt matter.


Not talking the grade older nonsense. These are the kids born in Oct-Dec that naturally will be moving “down” an age group bc of the change to SY. They are joining teams where the kids are all in their grade.

Even with Oct-Dec depending on when the school starts some players will go down 2 levels when switching from BY to SY. In this case players will have to play up to be on the correct grade in school team.
What are you talking about about, 2 levels? Each club is different , not a discussion of grade here.

Just stop. College coaches recruit by graduating year so yes grade matters.

Depending on when an Aug birthday occurs and when their school cutoff occurs BY players changing to SY might go to a correct grade in school team or they'll be the one player a grade older on team where everyone is a grade younger. Usually in the second situation players choose to play up so they're on the team thats their grade in school.


“Usually?” BY to SY is just happening now so how can you say usually? You’ve created a land of make believe! Talking like some expert but you don’t know ish!
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Anonymous wrote:Have any Q3 and Q4s gotten offers from a higher level team in the lower age group?
bwahahahahahaha

That goes against club interest

I am curious to know this as well


Can you explain how this goes against club interest? I legitimately do not understand, but I’m confident I’m missing something and you must be right.
Clubs don't like to promote within their club because it doesn't make them more money and blocks top slots that they can use to offer outsiders, meaning more money for the club.


I think that’s less likely this year. There’s a whole 5 months of birthdates to pull from within the club itself. Clubs would be silly not to evaluate those kids, current kids and new kids.

My DD is a Q4, and if she isn’t moved up a level or two by going down an age group, we will look elsewhere. We know the kids on the age group below for rec soccer, so we know where we fit in, and it’s definitely not the same level as the one we are playing in at the older age group.

Correct as you defined if the club has multiple players available for every roster position they're not going to let grade older players play down on the team. Its just much easier for clubs to avoid the 8th grade season challenges and misaligned recruiting issues.

You might see grade older players playing down on B and C teams but nobody really cares how these teams perform so it doesnt matter.


Not talking the grade older nonsense. These are the kids born in Oct-Dec that naturally will be moving “down” an age group bc of the change to SY. They are joining teams where the kids are all in their grade.

Even with Oct-Dec depending on when the school starts some players will go down 2 levels when switching from BY to SY. In this case players will have to play up to be on the correct grade in school team.
What are you talking about about, 2 levels? Each club is different , not a discussion of grade here.

Just stop. College coaches recruit by graduating year so yes grade matters.

Depending on when an Aug birthday occurs and when their school cutoff occurs BY players changing to SY might go to a correct grade in school team or they'll be the one player a grade older on team where everyone is a grade younger. Usually in the second situation players choose to play up so they're on the team thats their grade in school.
Not an advice column here. Players can't choose what team offers will come from. Clubs make offers and they don't have grades.

Clubs that dont accommodate parent requests wont be in business long. Also aligning players by grade is easier for clubs.
Clubs that accommodate requests won't be in business long. Soccer is a competitive sport, you have to earn playing, it's a central tenet of sports. it isn't requested nicely.


But clubs already accommodate some players/parents anyway. Do you know kids that play up already? I do.
Playing up is earned by being top in an age group. It is picked or allowed for funzies.
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Anonymous wrote:Have any Q3 and Q4s gotten offers from a higher level team in the lower age group?
bwahahahahahaha

That goes against club interest

I am curious to know this as well


Can you explain how this goes against club interest? I legitimately do not understand, but I’m confident I’m missing something and you must be right.
Clubs don't like to promote within their club because it doesn't make them more money and blocks top slots that they can use to offer outsiders, meaning more money for the club.


I think that’s less likely this year. There’s a whole 5 months of birthdates to pull from within the club itself. Clubs would be silly not to evaluate those kids, current kids and new kids.

My DD is a Q4, and if she isn’t moved up a level or two by going down an age group, we will look elsewhere. We know the kids on the age group below for rec soccer, so we know where we fit in, and it’s definitely not the same level as the one we are playing in at the older age group.

Correct as you defined if the club has multiple players available for every roster position they're not going to let grade older players play down on the team. Its just much easier for clubs to avoid the 8th grade season challenges and misaligned recruiting issues.

You might see grade older players playing down on B and C teams but nobody really cares how these teams perform so it doesnt matter.


Not talking the grade older nonsense. These are the kids born in Oct-Dec that naturally will be moving “down” an age group bc of the change to SY. They are joining teams where the kids are all in their grade.

Even with Oct-Dec depending on when the school starts some players will go down 2 levels when switching from BY to SY. In this case players will have to play up to be on the correct grade in school team.
What are you talking about about, 2 levels? Each club is different , not a discussion of grade here.

Just stop. College coaches recruit by graduating year so yes grade matters.

Depending on when an Aug birthday occurs and when their school cutoff occurs BY players changing to SY might go to a correct grade in school team or they'll be the one player a grade older on team where everyone is a grade younger. Usually in the second situation players choose to play up so they're on the team thats their grade in school.
Not an advice column here. Players can't choose what team offers will come from. Clubs make offers and they don't have grades.

Clubs that dont accommodate parent requests wont be in business long. Also aligning players by grade is easier for clubs.
Clubs that accommodate requests won't be in business long. Soccer is a competitive sport, you have to earn playing, it's a central tenet of sports. it isn't requested nicely.


But clubs already accommodate some players/parents anyway. Do you know kids that play up already? I do.
Playing up is earned by being top in an age group. It is picked or allowed for funzies.
It isn't picked.
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Anonymous wrote:Have any Q3 and Q4s gotten offers from a higher level team in the lower age group?
bwahahahahahaha

That goes against club interest

I am curious to know this as well


Can you explain how this goes against club interest? I legitimately do not understand, but I’m confident I’m missing something and you must be right.
Clubs don't like to promote within their club because it doesn't make them more money and blocks top slots that they can use to offer outsiders, meaning more money for the club.


I think that’s less likely this year. There’s a whole 5 months of birthdates to pull from within the club itself. Clubs would be silly not to evaluate those kids, current kids and new kids.

My DD is a Q4, and if she isn’t moved up a level or two by going down an age group, we will look elsewhere. We know the kids on the age group below for rec soccer, so we know where we fit in, and it’s definitely not the same level as the one we are playing in at the older age group.

Correct as you defined if the club has multiple players available for every roster position they're not going to let grade older players play down on the team. Its just much easier for clubs to avoid the 8th grade season challenges and misaligned recruiting issues.

You might see grade older players playing down on B and C teams but nobody really cares how these teams perform so it doesnt matter.


Not talking the grade older nonsense. These are the kids born in Oct-Dec that naturally will be moving “down” an age group bc of the change to SY. They are joining teams where the kids are all in their grade.

Even with Oct-Dec depending on when the school starts some players will go down 2 levels when switching from BY to SY. In this case players will have to play up to be on the correct grade in school team.
What are you talking about about, 2 levels? Each club is different , not a discussion of grade here.

Just stop. College coaches recruit by graduating year so yes grade matters.

Depending on when an Aug birthday occurs and when their school cutoff occurs BY players changing to SY might go to a correct grade in school team or they'll be the one player a grade older on team where everyone is a grade younger. Usually in the second situation players choose to play up so they're on the team thats their grade in school.
Their is no correct grade school team, it's U11, U12, U13, etc. Based on kids in school, expect about a quarter of any team to have grades not matching the bulk of the team. Kids get held back, skip grades, and some kids play up an age group.
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Anonymous wrote:Have any Q3 and Q4s gotten offers from a higher level team in the lower age group?
bwahahahahahaha

That goes against club interest

I am curious to know this as well


Can you explain how this goes against club interest? I legitimately do not understand, but I’m confident I’m missing something and you must be right.
Clubs don't like to promote within their club because it doesn't make them more money and blocks top slots that they can use to offer outsiders, meaning more money for the club.


I think that’s less likely this year. There’s a whole 5 months of birthdates to pull from within the club itself. Clubs would be silly not to evaluate those kids, current kids and new kids.

My DD is a Q4, and if she isn’t moved up a level or two by going down an age group, we will look elsewhere. We know the kids on the age group below for rec soccer, so we know where we fit in, and it’s definitely not the same level as the one we are playing in at the older age group.

Correct as you defined if the club has multiple players available for every roster position they're not going to let grade older players play down on the team. Its just much easier for clubs to avoid the 8th grade season challenges and misaligned recruiting issues.

You might see grade older players playing down on B and C teams but nobody really cares how these teams perform so it doesnt matter.


Not talking the grade older nonsense. These are the kids born in Oct-Dec that naturally will be moving “down” an age group bc of the change to SY. They are joining teams where the kids are all in their grade.

Even with Oct-Dec depending on when the school starts some players will go down 2 levels when switching from BY to SY. In this case players will have to play up to be on the correct grade in school team.
What are you talking about about, 2 levels? Each club is different , not a discussion of grade here.

Just stop. College coaches recruit by graduating year so yes grade matters.

Depending on when an Aug birthday occurs and when their school cutoff occurs BY players changing to SY might go to a correct grade in school team or they'll be the one player a grade older on team where everyone is a grade younger. Usually in the second situation players choose to play up so they're on the team thats their grade in school.
Not an advice column here. Players can't choose what team offers will come from. Clubs make offers and they don't have grades.

Clubs that dont accommodate parent requests wont be in business long. Also aligning players by grade is easier for clubs.
Clubs that accommodate requests won't be in business long. Soccer is a competitive sport, you have to earn playing, it's a central tenet of sports. it isn't requested nicely.


But clubs already accommodate some players/parents anyway. Do you know kids that play up already? I do.
Playing up is earned by being top in an age group. It is picked or allowed for funzies.


You actually believe this? Every club has a kid (player y) that plays up and another (player x) that doesn't where people say "player x is better than player y". It's not just because it's "earned" by player and family y. It's that some families have been playing this "take my ball and go home" game since U9.
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Anonymous wrote:Have any Q3 and Q4s gotten offers from a higher level team in the lower age group?
bwahahahahahaha

That goes against club interest

I am curious to know this as well


Can you explain how this goes against club interest? I legitimately do not understand, but I’m confident I’m missing something and you must be right.
Clubs don't like to promote within their club because it doesn't make them more money and blocks top slots that they can use to offer outsiders, meaning more money for the club.


I think that’s less likely this year. There’s a whole 5 months of birthdates to pull from within the club itself. Clubs would be silly not to evaluate those kids, current kids and new kids.

My DD is a Q4, and if she isn’t moved up a level or two by going down an age group, we will look elsewhere. We know the kids on the age group below for rec soccer, so we know where we fit in, and it’s definitely not the same level as the one we are playing in at the older age group.

Correct as you defined if the club has multiple players available for every roster position they're not going to let grade older players play down on the team. Its just much easier for clubs to avoid the 8th grade season challenges and misaligned recruiting issues.

You might see grade older players playing down on B and C teams but nobody really cares how these teams perform so it doesnt matter.


Not talking the grade older nonsense. These are the kids born in Oct-Dec that naturally will be moving “down” an age group bc of the change to SY. They are joining teams where the kids are all in their grade.

Even with Oct-Dec depending on when the school starts some players will go down 2 levels when switching from BY to SY. In this case players will have to play up to be on the correct grade in school team.
What are you talking about about, 2 levels? Each club is different , not a discussion of grade here.

Just stop. College coaches recruit by graduating year so yes grade matters.

Depending on when an Aug birthday occurs and when their school cutoff occurs BY players changing to SY might go to a correct grade in school team or they'll be the one player a grade older on team where everyone is a grade younger. Usually in the second situation players choose to play up so they're on the team thats their grade in school.
Not an advice column here. Players can't choose what team offers will come from. Clubs make offers and they don't have grades.

Clubs that dont accommodate parent requests wont be in business long. Also aligning players by grade is easier for clubs.


Clubs would be ruined caving to you entitled irrational parents
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Anonymous wrote:Kid has q3 bday and is repeating age group. On 2nd team now and will be on 1st team next year. Had some new age group scrimmages the past couple weeks and DC looked like one of the best kids out there.


Congrats! I think this is what most Aug/Sept parents expected would happen for their kid, but from this thread, it seems that isn't the case.


Thanks! DC is the best on the their team currently and probably would have made 1st team next year if it remained BY. DC is a hard worker.
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Anonymous wrote:Have any Q3 and Q4s gotten offers from a higher level team in the lower age group?
bwahahahahahaha

That goes against club interest

I am curious to know this as well


Can you explain how this goes against club interest? I legitimately do not understand, but I’m confident I’m missing something and you must be right.
Clubs don't like to promote within their club because it doesn't make them more money and blocks top slots that they can use to offer outsiders, meaning more money for the club.


I think that’s less likely this year. There’s a whole 5 months of birthdates to pull from within the club itself. Clubs would be silly not to evaluate those kids, current kids and new kids.

My DD is a Q4, and if she isn’t moved up a level or two by going down an age group, we will look elsewhere. We know the kids on the age group below for rec soccer, so we know where we fit in, and it’s definitely not the same level as the one we are playing in at the older age group.

Correct as you defined if the club has multiple players available for every roster position they're not going to let grade older players play down on the team. Its just much easier for clubs to avoid the 8th grade season challenges and misaligned recruiting issues.

You might see grade older players playing down on B and C teams but nobody really cares how these teams perform so it doesnt matter.


Not talking the grade older nonsense. These are the kids born in Oct-Dec that naturally will be moving “down” an age group bc of the change to SY. They are joining teams where the kids are all in their grade.

Even with Oct-Dec depending on when the school starts some players will go down 2 levels when switching from BY to SY. In this case players will have to play up to be on the correct grade in school team.
What are you talking about about, 2 levels? Each club is different , not a discussion of grade here.

Just stop. College coaches recruit by graduating year so yes grade matters.

Depending on when an Aug birthday occurs and when their school cutoff occurs BY players changing to SY might go to a correct grade in school team or they'll be the one player a grade older on team where everyone is a grade younger. Usually in the second situation players choose to play up so they're on the team thats their grade in school.
Not an advice column here. Players can't choose what team offers will come from. Clubs make offers and they don't have grades.

Clubs that dont accommodate parent requests wont be in business long. Also aligning players by grade is easier for clubs.
Clubs that accommodate requests won't be in business long. Soccer is a competitive sport, you have to earn playing, it's a central tenet of sports. it isn't requested nicely.


But clubs already accommodate some players/parents anyway. Do you know kids that play up already? I do.
Playing up is earned by being top in an age group. It is picked or allowed for funzies.


You actually believe this? Every club has a kid (player y) that plays up and another (player x) that doesn't where people say "player x is better than player y". It's not just because it's "earned" by player and family y. It's that some families have been playing this "take my ball and go home" game since U9.
On the boys side, playing up for top teams on top clubs is a unicorn.
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Anonymous wrote:Have any Q3 and Q4s gotten offers from a higher level team in the lower age group?
bwahahahahahaha

That goes against club interest

I am curious to know this as well


Can you explain how this goes against club interest? I legitimately do not understand, but I’m confident I’m missing something and you must be right.
Clubs don't like to promote within their club because it doesn't make them more money and blocks top slots that they can use to offer outsiders, meaning more money for the club.


I think that’s less likely this year. There’s a whole 5 months of birthdates to pull from within the club itself. Clubs would be silly not to evaluate those kids, current kids and new kids.

My DD is a Q4, and if she isn’t moved up a level or two by going down an age group, we will look elsewhere. We know the kids on the age group below for rec soccer, so we know where we fit in, and it’s definitely not the same level as the one we are playing in at the older age group.

Correct as you defined if the club has multiple players available for every roster position they're not going to let grade older players play down on the team. Its just much easier for clubs to avoid the 8th grade season challenges and misaligned recruiting issues.

You might see grade older players playing down on B and C teams but nobody really cares how these teams perform so it doesnt matter.


Not talking the grade older nonsense. These are the kids born in Oct-Dec that naturally will be moving “down” an age group bc of the change to SY. They are joining teams where the kids are all in their grade.

Even with Oct-Dec depending on when the school starts some players will go down 2 levels when switching from BY to SY. In this case players will have to play up to be on the correct grade in school team.
What are you talking about about, 2 levels? Each club is different , not a discussion of grade here.

Just stop. College coaches recruit by graduating year so yes grade matters.

Depending on when an Aug birthday occurs and when their school cutoff occurs BY players changing to SY might go to a correct grade in school team or they'll be the one player a grade older on team where everyone is a grade younger. Usually in the second situation players choose to play up so they're on the team thats their grade in school.
Not an advice column here. Players can't choose what team offers will come from. Clubs make offers and they don't have grades.

Clubs that dont accommodate parent requests wont be in business long. Also aligning players by grade is easier for clubs.
Clubs that accommodate requests won't be in business long. Soccer is a competitive sport, you have to earn playing, it's a central tenet of sports. it isn't requested nicely.


But clubs already accommodate some players/parents anyway. Do you know kids that play up already? I do.
We know. We know…Clubs accommodate carpools. Dont remind us. But do those kids actually get meaningful minutes?

Btw playing up matters only in GA and the U littles. Doesn’t mean a thing unless DC is actually assigned to the age group above during the season. Which means he/she is a very marketable rock star.

Playing up for the most part has ended as a marketing tactic to ploy to join a team.
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Anonymous wrote:Have any Q3 and Q4s gotten offers from a higher level team in the lower age group?
bwahahahahahaha

That goes against club interest

I am curious to know this as well


Can you explain how this goes against club interest? I legitimately do not understand, but I’m confident I’m missing something and you must be right.
Clubs don't like to promote within their club because it doesn't make them more money and blocks top slots that they can use to offer outsiders, meaning more money for the club.


I think that’s less likely this year. There’s a whole 5 months of birthdates to pull from within the club itself. Clubs would be silly not to evaluate those kids, current kids and new kids.

My DD is a Q4, and if she isn’t moved up a level or two by going down an age group, we will look elsewhere. We know the kids on the age group below for rec soccer, so we know where we fit in, and it’s definitely not the same level as the one we are playing in at the older age group.

Correct as you defined if the club has multiple players available for every roster position they're not going to let grade older players play down on the team. Its just much easier for clubs to avoid the 8th grade season challenges and misaligned recruiting issues.

You might see grade older players playing down on B and C teams but nobody really cares how these teams perform so it doesnt matter.


Not talking the grade older nonsense. These are the kids born in Oct-Dec that naturally will be moving “down” an age group bc of the change to SY. They are joining teams where the kids are all in their grade.

Even with Oct-Dec depending on when the school starts some players will go down 2 levels when switching from BY to SY. In this case players will have to play up to be on the correct grade in school team.
What are you talking about about, 2 levels? Each club is different , not a discussion of grade here.

Just stop. College coaches recruit by graduating year so yes grade matters.

Depending on when an Aug birthday occurs and when their school cutoff occurs BY players changing to SY might go to a correct grade in school team or they'll be the one player a grade older on team where everyone is a grade younger. Usually in the second situation players choose to play up so they're on the team thats their grade in school.
Not an advice column here. Players can't choose what team offers will come from. Clubs make offers and they don't have grades.

Clubs that dont accommodate parent requests wont be in business long. Also aligning players by grade is easier for clubs.
I have seen 3 clubs listen to special accommodations from parents and all 3 took it out on the kids for seeking special treatment.
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