How are your Aug-Dec kids doing re:offers?

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Anonymous wrote:ECNL and then everyone else for girls and MLSN and then everyone else for boys

So top is tied to labels

Not the coaching, individual growth and potential plus performance

Of course the top is tied to labels. If not, those kids wouldn't be the top.

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Anonymous wrote:Have any Q3 and Q4s gotten offers from a higher level team in the lower age group?

bwahahahahahaha

That goes against club interest

I am curious to know this as well

Can you explain how this goes against club interest? I legitimately do not understand, but I’m confident I’m missing something and you must be right.

Clubs don't like to promote within their club because it doesn't make them more money and blocks top slots that they can use to offer outsiders, meaning more money for the club.

I think that’s less likely this year. There’s a whole 5 months of birthdates to pull from within the club itself. Clubs would be silly not to evaluate those kids, current kids and new kids.

My DD is a Q4, and if she isn’t moved up a level or two by going down an age group, we will look elsewhere. We know the kids on the age group below for rec soccer, so we know where we fit in, and it’s definitely not the same level as the one we are playing in at the older age group.

Correct as you defined if the club has multiple players available for every roster position they're not going to let grade older players play down on the team. Its just much easier for clubs to avoid the 8th grade season challenges and misaligned recruiting issues.

You might see grade older players playing down on B and C teams but nobody really cares how these teams perform so it doesnt matter.

Not talking the grade older nonsense. These are the kids born in Oct-Dec that naturally will be moving “down” an age group bc of the change to SY. They are joining teams where the kids are all in their grade.

Even with Oct-Dec depending on when the school starts some players will go down 2 levels when switching from BY to SY. In this case players will have to play up to be on the correct grade in school team.

What are you talking about about, 2 levels? Each club is different , not a discussion of grade here.

Just stop. College coaches recruit by graduating year so yes grade matters.

Depending on when an Aug birthday occurs and when their school cutoff occurs BY players changing to SY might go to a correct grade in school team or they'll be the one player a grade older on team where everyone is a grade younger. Usually in the second situation players choose to play up so they're on the team thats their grade in school.

Not an advice column here. Players can't choose what team offers will come from. Clubs make offers and they don't have grades.

Clubs that dont accommodate parent requests wont be in business long. Also aligning players by grade is easier for clubs.

Clubs would be ruined caving to you entitled irrational parents

Some have given up playoff chances for just this. Maybe not whole clubs but definitely some teams out there that would love to have old teams back. Ignoring the sy/by. Oh well.

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Anonymous wrote:I want my younger kid to play on the top team in the correct new age group - they can be the leader on that team and sometimes play up when needed. I view this as a good thing, not detrimental

Too bad clubs wont allow this. At least not on top teams where theres significant competition for roater spots.

This is happening at all the top clubs, they are aligning their teams to the new SY age group birthdays. There will be exceptions based on the strength of certain teams. Like if a club has 25 good players for their U14 teams and 14 for their U15 team they will allocate more to the U15 team and have them "play up"

Club interest is to do what's best for the club, not what's best for the individual players. Players and parents need to advocate for the player. Hopefully families understand this, meaning there will be lots of movement this year.

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Anonymous wrote:Kid has q3 bday and is repeating age group. On 2nd team now and will be on 1st team next year. Had some new age group scrimmages the past couple weeks and DC looked like one of the best kids out there.

Congrats! I think this is what most Aug/Sept parents expected would happen for their kid, but from this thread, it seems that isn't the case.

The top team at clubs will be made up of August - December kids. Whether that is from moving kids from former B teams or kids from outside the club. We all know that the oldest kids in a 12 month range are on the top teams. For the former top players on a team, born January - March, get used to reduced minutes, keeping the bench warm or being placed on a lower team.

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Anonymous wrote:Kid has q3 bday and is repeating age group. On 2nd team now and will be on 1st team next year. Had some new age group scrimmages the past couple weeks and DC looked like one of the best kids out there.

Congrats! I think this is what most Aug/Sept parents expected would happen for their kid, but from this thread, it seems that isn't the case.

The top team at clubs will be made up of August - December kids. Whether that is from moving kids from former B teams or kids from outside the club. We all know that the oldest kids in a 12 month range are on the top teams. For the former top players on a team, born January - March, get used to reduced minutes, keeping the bench warm or being placed on a lower team.

Not the case on DC's top team. Team is pretty much the same as last year. Only 2 trapped Aug-Dec players added for next year.

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Anonymous wrote:Kid has q3 bday and is repeating age group. On 2nd team now and will be on 1st team next year. Had some new age group scrimmages the past couple weeks and DC looked like one of the best kids out there.

Congrats! I think this is what most Aug/Sept parents expected would happen for their kid, but from this thread, it seems that isn't the case.

The top team at clubs will be made up of August - December kids. Whether that is from moving kids from former B teams or kids from outside the club. We all know that the oldest kids in a 12 month range are on the top teams. For the former top players on a team, born January - March, get used to reduced minutes, keeping the bench warm or being placed on a lower team.

Not the case on DC's top team. Team is pretty much the same as last year. Only 2 trapped Aug-Dec players added for next year.

So you're saying that if the team stays as is today that all players will be the same graduating year aka grade in school this fall when SY starts?

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Anonymous wrote:Kid has q3 bday and is repeating age group. On 2nd team now and will be on 1st team next year. Had some new age group scrimmages the past couple weeks and DC looked like one of the best kids out there.

Congrats! I think this is what most Aug/Sept parents expected would happen for their kid, but from this thread, it seems that isn't the case.

The top team at clubs will be made up of August - December kids. Whether that is from moving kids from former B teams or kids from outside the club. We all know that the oldest kids in a 12 month range are on the top teams. For the former top players on a team, born January - March, get used to reduced minutes, keeping the bench warm or being placed on a lower team.

Not the case on DC's top team. Team is pretty much the same as last year. Only 2 trapped Aug-Dec players added for next year.

So you're saying that if the team stays as is today that all players will be the same graduating year aka grade in school this fall when SY starts?

What? Has nothing to do with grade. This is about how strong coach lock is on re age grouped kids. This grade crude is a dead cat.

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Anonymous wrote:Kid has q3 bday and is repeating age group. On 2nd team now and will be on 1st team next year. Had some new age group scrimmages the past couple weeks and DC looked like one of the best kids out there.

Congrats! I think this is what most Aug/Sept parents expected would happen for their kid, but from this thread, it seems that isn't the case.

The top team at clubs will be made up of August - December kids. Whether that is from moving kids from former B teams or kids from outside the club. We all know that the oldest kids in a 12 month range are on the top teams. For the former top players on a team, born January - March, get used to reduced minutes, keeping the bench warm or being placed on a lower team.

Your club must have a lot of Q4s. There aren’t enough at mine to have such a big effect. Just changes around the edges. Not wholesale change.

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Anonymous wrote:Kid has q3 bday and is repeating age group. On 2nd team now and will be on 1st team next year. Had some new age group scrimmages the past couple weeks and DC looked like one of the best kids out there.

Congrats! I think this is what most Aug/Sept parents expected would happen for their kid, but from this thread, it seems that isn't the case.

Don't want to answer the question?
The top team at clubs will be made up of August - December kids. Whether that is from moving kids from former B teams or kids from outside the club. We all know that the oldest kids in a 12 month range are on the top teams. For the former top players on a team, born January - March, get used to reduced minutes, keeping the bench warm or being placed on a lower team.

Not the case on DC's top team. Team is pretty much the same as last year. Only 2 trapped Aug-Dec players added for next year.

So you're saying that if the team stays as is today that all players will be the same graduating year aka grade in school this fall when SY starts?

What? Has nothing to do with grade. This is about how strong coach lock is on re age grouped kids. This grade crude is a dead cat.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Kid has q3 bday and is repeating age group. On 2nd team now and will be on 1st team next year. Had some new age group scrimmages the past couple weeks and DC looked like one of the best kids out there.

Congrats! I think this is what most Aug/Sept parents expected would happen for their kid, but from this thread, it seems that isn't the case.

The top team at clubs will be made up of August - December kids. Whether that is from moving kids from former B teams or kids from outside the club. We all know that the oldest kids in a 12 month range are on the top teams. For the former top players on a team, born January - March, get used to reduced minutes, keeping the bench warm or being placed on a lower team.

Not the case on DC's top team. Team is pretty much the same as last year. Only 2 trapped Aug-Dec players added for next year.

So you're saying that if the team stays as is today that all players will be the same graduating year aka grade in school this fall when SY starts?

What? Has nothing to do with grade. This is about how strong coach lock is on re age grouped kids. This grade crude is a dead cat.

That's not an answer

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Kid has q3 bday and is repeating age group. On 2nd team now and will be on 1st team next year. Had some new age group scrimmages the past couple weeks and DC looked like one of the best kids out there.

Congrats! I think this is what most Aug/Sept parents expected would happen for their kid, but from this thread, it seems that isn't the case.

The top team at clubs will be made up of August - December kids. Whether that is from moving kids from former B teams or kids from outside the club. We all know that the oldest kids in a 12 month range are on the top teams. For the former top players on a team, born January - March, get used to reduced minutes, keeping the bench warm or being placed on a lower team.

Not the case on DC's top team. Team is pretty much the same as last year. Only 2 trapped Aug-Dec players added for next year.

So you're saying that if the team stays as is today that all players will be the same graduating year aka grade in school this fall when SY starts?

What? Has nothing to do with grade. This is about how strong coach lock is on re age grouped kids. This grade crude is a dead cat.

Nobody on the clubs knows the graduation years the kids. They all go to different schools, some private some public some where heldback some advanced. It isn't a question anybody is trying to answer.

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Anonymous wrote:Kid has q3 bday and is repeating age group. On 2nd team now and will be on 1st team next year. Had some new age group scrimmages the past couple weeks and DC looked like one of the best kids out there.

Congrats! I think this is what most Aug/Sept parents expected would happen for their kid, but from this thread, it seems that isn't the case.

The top team at clubs will be made up of August - December kids. Whether that is from moving kids from former B teams or kids from outside the club. We all know that the oldest kids in a 12 month range are on the top teams. For the former top players on a team, born January - March, get used to reduced minutes, keeping the bench warm or being placed on a lower team.

Not the case on DC's top team. Team is pretty much the same as last year. Only 2 trapped Aug-Dec players added for next year.

So you're saying that if the team stays as is today that all players will be the same graduating year aka grade in school this fall when SY starts?

They aren't saying that at all.

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Anonymous wrote:Kid has q3 bday and is repeating age group. On 2nd team now and will be on 1st team next year. Had some new age group scrimmages the past couple weeks and DC looked like one of the best kids out there.

Congrats! I think this is what most Aug/Sept parents expected would happen for their kid, but from this thread, it seems that isn't the case.

The top team at clubs will be made up of August - December kids. Whether that is from moving kids from former B teams or kids from outside the club. We all know that the oldest kids in a 12 month range are on the top teams. For the former top players on a team, born January - March, get used to reduced minutes, keeping the bench warm or being placed on a lower team.

Your club must have a lot of Q4s. There aren’t enough at mine to have such a big effect. Just changes around the edges. Not wholesale change.

Not even many Q4s on second teams? These is where a bunch are for my kids club.

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Anonymous wrote:Kid has q3 bday and is repeating age group. On 2nd team now and will be on 1st team next year. Had some new age group scrimmages the past couple weeks and DC looked like one of the best kids out there.

Congrats! I think this is what most Aug/Sept parents expected would happen for their kid, but from this thread, it seems that isn't the case.

The top team at clubs will be made up of August - December kids. Whether that is from moving kids from former B teams or kids from outside the club. We all know that the oldest kids in a 12 month range are on the top teams. For the former top players on a team, born January - March, get used to reduced minutes, keeping the bench warm or being placed on a lower team.

Not the case on DC's top team. Team is pretty much the same as last year. Only 2 trapped Aug-Dec players added for next year.

So you're saying that if the team stays as is today that all players will be the same graduating year aka grade in school this fall when SY starts?

What? Has nothing to do with grade. This is about how strong coach lock is on re age grouped kids. This grade crude is a dead cat.

Nobody on the clubs knows the graduation years the kids. They all go to different schools, some private some public some where heldback some advanced. It isn't a question anybody is trying to answer.

Graduating year is right on every ECNL players profile. Trying to evade the question is BS.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Kid has q3 bday and is repeating age group. On 2nd team now and will be on 1st team next year. Had some new age group scrimmages the past couple weeks and DC looked like one of the best kids out there.

Congrats! I think this is what most Aug/Sept parents expected would happen for their kid, but from this thread, it seems that isn't the case.

The top team at clubs will be made up of August - December kids. Whether that is from moving kids from former B teams or kids from outside the club. We all know that the oldest kids in a 12 month range are on the top teams. For the former top players on a team, born January - March, get used to reduced minutes, keeping the bench warm or being placed on a lower team.

Not the case on DC's top team. Team is pretty much the same as last year. Only 2 trapped Aug-Dec players added for next year.

So you're saying that if the team stays as is today that all players will be the same graduating year aka grade in school this fall when SY starts?

They aren't saying that at all.

Seems like they are to me which is why I asked.