Why are so many of my friends not discussing politics (at least by text or email)? I’m in a few group friend chats and

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Anonymous wrote:I am a journalist so cannot be very out there with my opinions. I work for a leans right / Libertarian news operation but the higher ups depise Trump.

I talk with close friends about the situation. Unfortunately, it is going to have to get really bad before we correct course. Trump voters have to personally suffer enough to want to end the nonsense.

I didn’t vote for him but honestly the only issue for me personally rn is inflation, but I saw it post Covid as well.

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Anonymous wrote:Honestly OP, you sound kind of obsessed and potentially unbalanced.

Most people - normal people - don’t want to have politics injected into every subject they discuss, even if they tend to agree. But discussions of kid’s sports, recipes, or pets don’t all need to devolve into rants about how much you hate Trump. There’s just no need for this.


It’s …….. boring.

How many subjects in your daily life do you think are devoid of “politics”?

Are most of you being deliberately obtuse because you love the current administration? Or are you actually this stupid?

This

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Anonymous wrote:I wish we were friends, OP. Mine are texting and talking about it all the time. Usually in the form of “Did you hear about….?” to share the latest travesty. I would be so lonely if I thought my nearest and dearest didn’t care about this ish too.

Thank you

And I think it might be because several of them are MAGA or MAGA sympathetic

Dp
Or they just have more nuanced opinions. Like, asylum is abused, only ppl with legal status should be in the US, but they don’t support the cruelty, chaos and blatant disregard for due process.
But they know you’ll go rabid and yell maga at them

You call that a “nuanced opinion”? I call that a Democrat. Plenty of democrats believe exactly what you wrote. I have no problems with people who believe as you do, and vote democrat. I’ve got a lot of problems with people who purport to believe as you do, but vote republican.

PP you replied to. Many of my democratic friends can’t stand any criticism of the immigration system or certain types of immigrants. I am an immigrant myself so I’m not as naive and I see a lot of my compatriots abusing the system in many ways. But god forbid you say something, like maybe most or at least some of the Somalian fraud was exactly that?

How were you personally involved with or victimized by the alleged Somali fraud?

Oh, you mean you just heard about it on Fox News and are dutifully outraged?

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Anonymous wrote:I have a friend who wanted to sen me every news article. I asked him to stop and he asked if I was MAGA.

Maybe, OP, you can respect people are capable of finding the news and/or do not want to have recorded conversations.

^^THIS. It's clear there are certain people - of the far-left variety - who will never grasp that others are also attuned to politics and can draw their own conclusions without having to be lectured to or told what to think. These people will just never get it and will always smugly think of themselves as the smartest people in the room. It's really too bad because they're a huge reason people are repulsed.

when you say things like the "far left variety" you sound ignorant. Seeing who and what trump and his administration stand for and what they are doing to our country is no longer a political conversation. People- the intelligent ones are talking about basic good vs evil and frightened by the lack of humanity in this White House and our country. If you can not understand history and are unable to make some terrifying connections to the present day well then you are repulsive one my obtuse friend.

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Anonymous wrote:nothing. Maybe I’m too tuned in- I’m a news junkie- but I’m obsessed. But these group chats are discussing random stuff - Larla got into X college, does anyone want to meet up to go antique’ing?, happy birthday to Larlo! Etc.

Are we like people in the Weimar Republic who went about their daily lives as their country was taken over by nazis?

There are Epstein emails where Epstein, politicians, billionaire bankers, and powerful lawyers detail they keep the “cattle” distracted with bread & circuses.

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Anonymous wrote:Honestly OP, you sound kind of obsessed and potentially unbalanced.

Most people - normal people - don’t want to have politics injected into every subject they discuss, even if they tend to agree. But discussions of kid’s sports, recipes, or pets don’t all need to devolve into rants about how much you hate Trump. There’s just no need for this.


It’s …….. boring.

How many subjects in your daily life do you think are devoid of “politics”?

Are most of you being deliberately obtuse because you love the current administration? Or are you actually this stupid?

I like to talk about:

My son’s wrestling matches this season and his Scouting activities.

My daughter’s artwork and her volunteering.

Baking and cooking.

Our two silly dogs.

The pet rescue I volunteer for.

Gardening and home outdoors.

Upcoming events in our church.

Vacation/travel plans in my circle of friends.

Work stuff.

What colleges our kids might be interested in.

Trying to figure out what car to get next.

What I’m currently binge watching.

The gym.

Any myriad other things….



None of which have anything at all to do with politics, but all of which I consider quite important and worth discussing with the various people I discuss them with.


I’m sorry you think that’s obtuse.


But I feel more sorry for you, because you have so little else going on in your life that you make a guy who doesn’t even know you exist the eye of your hurricane.


That’s so sad I can’t even imagine what that’s like. It makes me appreciate and realize how lucky I am to be so blessed.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Honestly OP, you sound kind of obsessed and potentially unbalanced.

Most people - normal people - don’t want to have politics injected into every subject they discuss, even if they tend to agree. But discussions of kid’s sports, recipes, or pets don’t all need to devolve into rants about how much you hate Trump. There’s just no need for this.


It’s …….. boring.

How many subjects in your daily life do you think are devoid of “politics”?

Are most of you being deliberately obtuse because you love the current administration? Or are you actually this stupid?

I like to talk about:

My son’s wrestling matches this season and his Scouting activities.

My daughter’s artwork and her volunteering.

Baking and cooking.

Our two silly dogs.

The pet rescue I volunteer for.

Gardening and home outdoors.

Upcoming events in our church.

Vacation/travel plans in my circle of friends.

Work stuff.

What colleges our kids might be interested in.

Trying to figure out what car to get next.

What I’m currently binge watching.

The gym.

Any myriad other things….



None of which have anything at all to do with politics, but all of which I consider quite important and worth discussing with the various people I discuss them with.


I’m sorry you think that’s obtuse.


But I feel more sorry for you, because you have so little else going on in your life that you make a guy who doesn’t even know you exist the eye of your hurricane.


That’s so sad I can’t even imagine what that’s like. It makes me appreciate and realize how lucky I am to be so blessed.

DP. All of which are possible because you live in a country that until a year ago was governed by rule of law. It’s nice that you are grateful but you don’t seem to understand the connection between these things you value and having a democracy.

Consider this: how would you feel if someone high up in the Trump administration decided they wanted your house with its garden and kitchen that you enjoy. And that person kicked you out on some made up or exaggerated reading of the law. That’s what authoritarianism is. And that’s what is happening here. You don’t have to discuss it with anyone but you should be aware that “politics” is embedded in the very fabric of your life.

[Anonymous]

The worst things to talk about are politics and religion. Why would you do this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Honestly OP, you sound kind of obsessed and potentially unbalanced.

Most people - normal people - don’t want to have politics injected into every subject they discuss, even if they tend to agree. But discussions of kid’s sports, recipes, or pets don’t all need to devolve into rants about how much you hate Trump. There’s just no need for this.


It’s …….. boring.

How many subjects in your daily life do you think are devoid of “politics”?

Are most of you being deliberately obtuse because you love the current administration? Or are you actually this stupid?

I like to talk about:

My son’s wrestling matches this season and his Scouting activities.

My daughter’s artwork and her volunteering.

Baking and cooking.

Our two silly dogs.

The pet rescue I volunteer for.

Gardening and home outdoors.

Upcoming events in our church.

Vacation/travel plans in my circle of friends.

Work stuff.

What colleges our kids might be interested in.

Trying to figure out what car to get next.

What I’m currently binge watching.

The gym.

Any myriad other things….



None of which have anything at all to do with politics, but all of which I consider quite important and worth discussing with the various people I discuss them with.


I’m sorry you think that’s obtuse.


But I feel more sorry for you, because you have so little else going on in your life that you make a guy who doesn’t even know you exist the eye of your hurricane.


That’s so sad I can’t even imagine what that’s like. It makes me appreciate and realize how lucky I am to be so blessed.

DP. All of which are possible because you live in a country that until a year ago was governed by rule of law. It’s nice that you are grateful but you don’t seem to understand the connection between these things you value and having a democracy.

Consider this: how would you feel if someone high up in the Trump administration decided they wanted your house with its garden and kitchen that you enjoy. And that person kicked you out on some made up or exaggerated reading of the law. That’s what authoritarianism is. And that’s what is happening here. You don’t have to discuss it with anyone but you should be aware that “politics” is embedded in the very fabric of your life.

This. If we keep going in this horrific direction no one will feel "blessed" no one will enjoy the freedoms that America was built on. I can't believe the ignorance.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The worst things to talk about are politics and religion. Why would you do this.

Yes....we should all keep are eyes wide shut and not pay attention to the atrocities going on. This is no longer politics this is right from wrong.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The worst things to talk about are politics and religion. Why would you do this.

Masonic Lodges prohibit discussions of politics or religion, recognizing their divisive nature and the near certainty that nothing good comes of that kind of activity, merely enmity. Vote your conscience when the time comes, there's little to no benefit in annoying people around you in the interim by sharing your politics whether or not they are of any interest to anyone else.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The worst things to talk about are politics and religion. Why would you do this.

Yes....we should all keep are eyes wide shut and not pay attention to the atrocities going on. This is no longer politics this is right from wrong.

Things don't become more right or wrong based on how much bleating goes on about it. Vote. Don't annoy your friends. Vocally expressing your heartfelt sentiments about politics, whether to the left or right, is not going to change anyone else's mind or vote. MYOB.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Honestly OP, you sound kind of obsessed and potentially unbalanced.

Most people - normal people - don’t want to have politics injected into every subject they discuss, even if they tend to agree. But discussions of kid’s sports, recipes, or pets don’t all need to devolve into rants about how much you hate Trump. There’s just no need for this.


It’s …….. boring.

How many subjects in your daily life do you think are devoid of “politics”?

Are most of you being deliberately obtuse because you love the current administration? Or are you actually this stupid?

I like to talk about:

My son’s wrestling matches this season and his Scouting activities.

My daughter’s artwork and her volunteering.

Baking and cooking.

Our two silly dogs.

The pet rescue I volunteer for.

Gardening and home outdoors.

Upcoming events in our church.

Vacation/travel plans in my circle of friends.

Work stuff.

What colleges our kids might be interested in.

Trying to figure out what car to get next.

What I’m currently binge watching.

The gym.

Any myriad other things….



None of which have anything at all to do with politics, but all of which I consider quite important and worth discussing with the various people I discuss them with.


I’m sorry you think that’s obtuse.


But I feel more sorry for you, because you have so little else going on in your life that you make a guy who doesn’t even know you exist the eye of your hurricane.


That’s so sad I can’t even imagine what that’s like. It makes me appreciate and realize how lucky I am to be so blessed.

It’s actually shocking that you think any of these subjects are devoid of politics, let alone all of them.

You are blessed that the adults in the room take care of you, allowing you to wallow in your blissful ignorance.

[Anonymous]

This thread is exactly why people choose to avoid discussing politics with friends.

The people who want to discuss have done nothing but insult those who choose not to engage. You are no different then my fox loving mother who has tried to bully me multiple times into engaging with her on politics.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This thread is exactly why people choose to avoid discussing politics with friends.

The people who want to discuss have done nothing but insult those who choose not to engage. You are no different then my fox loving mother who has tried to bully me multiple times into engaging with her on politics.

+1. This forum - which I enjoyed much more during the first Trump presidency - is just not fun anymore because there is no longer any nuance of discussion. The conversations are shouted down with screams of MAGA any time any poster says something 100% not far left.

I only discuss politics with a few friends who I know have views most aligned with mine or have open minds.

I dont discuss politics with my conservative friends and my friends who are more n the far left, I can’t talk to them either about politics.