Honest q for conservatives: do you hold your kids to a higher standard than trump?

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Anonymous wrote:If your kids school called and said that your child called another child ‘piggy’, ‘ugly’ or a ‘r*****’, would they be in trouble with you or no?

I’m going to say zero back, this is just actually the thing that most baffles me about trump voters

Do you have teens? Piggy and ugly wouldn’t even register at school as being an issue. The language is terrible.

NP. I do. And if they ever referred to another child in these terms they wouldn't see their phone for a month. Do better.

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Apparently Republicans stand for lazy ass parenting

Gee...all those high school fights and cursing in majority Democrat cities are the result of "lazy ass parenting" by Republicans?

Which fights and cursing are you referring to? And how are you aware of their political affiliation. Can you defend his use of r*tard? Can you say specifically why it’s ok for the president of the United states to use that word?

You are putting words in my mouth and stating things I neither believe nor said. I think it's abhorrent that Trump used that word in that way. .

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I'm a conservative and I definitely hold my kids to a higher standard that Trump. I expect good manners, hard work, respect for the law, and kindness to others.

I did not vote for Trump and am not a trump supporter.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm a conservative and I definitely hold my kids to a higher standard that Trump. I expect good manners, hard work, respect for the law, and kindness to others.

I did not vote for Trump and am not a trump supporter.

+1 There are many of us who feel this way.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm a conservative and I definitely hold my kids to a higher standard that Trump. I expect good manners, hard work, respect for the law, and kindness to others.

I did not vote for Trump and am not a trump supporter.

Aka normal people

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I agree with your position, OP, but of all the things Trump has done, this is so far from the worst. I am not saying that words don't matter. They absolutely do. And I am not denying that any other politician would have lost his career over this. I am just pointing out that at least these are just despicable words, not sending immigrants to concentration camps in Venezuela or assassinating who knows who in boats or detaining 100 people in a cell meant for 10 without adequate food, water, or medical care.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m pretty sure the people on this thread insinuating that their kids would be in super duper big trouble if they used the word “piggy” do not have kids, and have no idea what kids are like.

They would objectively be in trouble from their schools

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Anonymous wrote:If your kids school called and said that your child called another child ‘piggy’, ‘ugly’ or a ‘r*****’, would they be in trouble with you or no?

I’m going to say zero back, this is just actually the thing that most baffles me about trump voters

Have you ever been in a public high school? I can assure you that "piggy" would be viewed as a very mild word choice.

Just because they do it doesn't mean it is encouraged. Any responsible adult who hears kids talking to each other this way would at least tell them to knock it off, and depending on the circumstances, they'd be punished. Context matters. Crass jokes between friends is one thing and warrants one response, while bullying is different and would warrant a different response. The President of the United States should not be modeling either behavior. Anyone arguing otherwise is being disingenuous and should be ignored.

I agree with you; but my point is that not just Republicans have disrespectful kids who use bad, derogatory language. It's a socital problem that includes all groups.

Only one party has a president using this language with regularity. That’s the point.

PP here. I agree that he's obnoxious. I can't stand him. OP's post, as well as others' comments, suggested that it's a Republicans' parenting problem. I disagree.

You have completely misunderstood the post

The post highlights the double standards between republicans tolerance of certain behavior in their own children and that same behavior in their president. It is not a comment on their parenting per se

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Anonymous wrote:If your kids school called and said that your child called another child ‘piggy’, ‘ugly’ or a ‘r*****’, would they be in trouble with you or no?

I’m going to say zero back, this is just actually the thing that most baffles me about trump voters

Do you have teens? Piggy and ugly wouldn’t even register at school as being an issue. The language is terrible.

Teacher here. You are absolutely wrong about that. Any student would face consequences for saying those words to a classmate or staff member. The equivalent incident in a school setting wouldn’t even be name-calling between two students who don’t get along. The comparable situation at school would be if a student gave a presentation, and it was followed by a question from a peer that they couldn’t answer. So they just said, “quiet piggy.” Not that it is acceptable in either situation, but it is important to note what this would actually look like in a school setting. Not only would the teacher respond with consequences. The classmates who witnessed it would rush to their defense, and the name-calling kid would be called out by peers and socially ostracized for the foreseeable future. In other words, kids even have higher expectations of each other than the gop has for Trump.

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Anonymous wrote:I agree with your position, OP, but of all the things Trump has done, this is so far from the worst. I am not saying that words don't matter. They absolutely do. And I am not denying that any other politician would have lost his career over this. I am just pointing out that at least these are just despicable words, not sending immigrants to concentration camps in Venezuela or assassinating who knows who in boats or detaining 100 people in a cell meant for 10 without adequate food, water, or medical care.

Op - right but when we lump all the terrible things together you dilute the impact.
It’s sometimes important to highlight each piece separately in order to correctly underline the insanity

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When you don't accept this behavior from your kids, why do you accept it from your President?

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I hate to bring up this can of worms but it’s because Trump says these horrible things, and gets away with it, that many voters just shrugged at what Jay Jones wrote in those texts.

He has so lowered the bar. We know what Jones wrote was despicable but also know that had Trump written the same, it would just be shrugged at.

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Anonymous wrote:I agree with your position, OP, but of all the things Trump has done, this is so far from the worst. I am not saying that words don't matter. They absolutely do. And I am not denying that any other politician would have lost his career over this. I am just pointing out that at least these are just despicable words, not sending immigrants to concentration camps in Venezuela or assassinating who knows who in boats or detaining 100 people in a cell meant for 10 without adequate food, water, or medical care.

Op - right but when we lump all the terrible things together you dilute the impact.
It’s sometimes important to highlight each piece separately in order to correctly underline the insanity

An analogy I heard recently - if your house is on fire, you aren’t taking time to focus on your sofa, your bed, or your tv. You are yelling “FIRE!” while watching the whole thing burn down, and there’s nothing you can do about it.

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Anonymous wrote:If your kids school called and said that your child called another child ‘piggy’, ‘ugly’ or a ‘r*****’, would they be in trouble with you or no?

I’m going to say zero back, this is just actually the thing that most baffles me about trump voters

Do you have teens? Piggy and ugly wouldn’t even register at school as being an issue. The language is terrible.

Teacher here. You are absolutely wrong about that. Any student would face consequences for saying those words to a classmate or staff member. The equivalent incident in a school setting wouldn’t even be name-calling between two students who don’t get along. The comparable situation at school would be if a student gave a presentation, and it was followed by a question from a peer that they couldn’t answer. So they just said, “quiet piggy.” Not that it is acceptable in either situation, but it is important to note what this would actually look like in a school setting. Not only would the teacher respond with consequences. The classmates who witnessed it would rush to their defense, and the name-calling kid would be called out by peers and socially ostracized for the foreseeable future. In other words, kids even have higher expectations of each other than the gop has for Trump.

You must work in a very nice school setting. I'd love to hear more about the consequences for derogatory remarks you're allowed to give at your school.

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Anonymous wrote:I agree with your position, OP, but of all the things Trump has done, this is so far from the worst. I am not saying that words don't matter. They absolutely do. And I am not denying that any other politician would have lost his career over this. I am just pointing out that at least these are just despicable words, not sending immigrants to concentration camps in Venezuela or assassinating who knows who in boats or detaining 100 people in a cell meant for 10 without adequate food, water, or medical care.

Agreed, but also, it’s worth discussing since these despicable words have more of an impact on everyday life. Trumpism has a thousand slimy tentacles.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm a conservative and I definitely hold my kids to a higher standard that Trump. I expect good manners, hard work, respect for the law, and kindness to others.

I did not vote for Trump and am not a trump supporter.

Thank you for addressing the actual question and not defending this behavior. It seems those who voted for Trump can't bring themselves to say that the behavior is inappropriate. I suppose it does reflect on the kind of person who would do so, and how they must carry themselves in other areas of their lives.