Honest q for conservatives: do you hold your kids to a higher standard than trump?

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Anonymous wrote:If your kids school called and said that your child called another child ‘piggy’, ‘ugly’ or a ‘r*****’, would they be in trouble with you or no?

I’m going to say zero back, this is just actually the thing that most baffles me about trump voters


Do you have teens? Piggy and ugly wouldn’t even register at school as being an issue. The language is terrible.


NP. I do. And if they ever referred to another child in these terms they wouldn't see their phone for a month. Do better.


Never mind how kids talk to each other, which I know is in the gutter. What if they insulted a teacher or a sales clerk or a coach or a doctor with language like this, just for doing their job?



All of it.


What if they said it to an ICE agent?


ICE agents hide behind their masks, so they can't tell if they're ugly or not, right?
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:If your kids school called and said that your child called another child ‘piggy’, ‘ugly’ or a ‘r*****’, would they be in trouble with you or no?

I’m going to say zero back, this is just actually the thing that most baffles me about trump voters



I've been very disappointed by previous administrations which act statesmanlike while things are on fire.

I really don't GAS what the complaints are against Trump's attitudes anymore.

Democrats arrested him, raided his house with a swat team, tried to get him removed from the ballot in several states, and instituted all manner of lawfare against him and his family.

They went after his lawyers and everyone has a right to representation.

Bottom line: Democrats salted the ground with poison. It was so satisfying to you when they did that. So stop complaining. You deserve exactly what you are getting. It's too late to turn back now.


All of it deserved. He is the most horrifically corrupt president we have ever had, and if he was a Democrat doing the same sh*t, your head would literally pop off your body in rage.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If your kids school called and said that your child called another child ‘piggy’, ‘ugly’ or a ‘r*****’, would they be in trouble with you or no?

I’m going to say zero back, this is just actually the thing that most baffles me about trump voters



I've been very disappointed by previous administrations which act statesmanlike while things are on fire.

I really don't GAS what the complaints are against Trump's attitudes anymore.

Democrats arrested him, raided his house with a swat team, tried to get him removed from the ballot in several states, and instituted all manner of lawfare against him and his family.

They went after his lawyers and everyone has a right to representation.

Bottom line: Democrats salted the ground with poison. It was so satisfying to you when they did that. So stop complaining. You deserve exactly what you are getting. It's too late to turn back now.


All of it deserved. He is the most horrifically corrupt president we have ever had, and if he was a Democrat doing the same sh*t, your head would literally pop off your body in rage.


That's your view. Don't complain as it boomerangs.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If your kids school called and said that your child called another child ‘piggy’, ‘ugly’ or a ‘r*****’, would they be in trouble with you or no?

I’m going to say zero back, this is just actually the thing that most baffles me about trump voters



I've been very disappointed by previous administrations which act statesmanlike while things are on fire.

I really don't GAS what the complaints are against Trump's attitudes anymore.

Democrats arrested him, raided his house with a swat team, tried to get him removed from the ballot in several states, and instituted all manner of lawfare against him and his family.

They went after his lawyers and everyone has a right to representation.

Bottom line: Democrats salted the ground with poison. It was so satisfying to you when they did that. So stop complaining. You deserve exactly what you are getting. It's too late to turn back now.


HE BROKE THE LAW. Holding him accountable is not lawfare.

Things were not great, but Trump is actively making them worse.

And there's no reason he can't enact policy while behaving with a modicum of respect for the office he holds.

You're a moron and a despicable human being.


A Senator by the name of Joe Biden took classified information home for decades, which he was not entitled to. Nevertheless, he had a very sympathetic DOJ.

Two standards... one for democrats, one for everyone else. Don't complain with retribution coming your way.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If your kids school called and said that your child called another child ‘piggy’, ‘ugly’ or a ‘r*****’, would they be in trouble with you or no?

I’m going to say zero back, this is just actually the thing that most baffles me about trump voters



I've been very disappointed by previous administrations which act statesmanlike while things are on fire.

I really don't GAS what the complaints are against Trump's attitudes anymore.

Democrats arrested him, raided his house with a swat team, tried to get him removed from the ballot in several states, and instituted all manner of lawfare against him and his family.

They went after his lawyers and everyone has a right to representation.

Bottom line: Democrats salted the ground with poison. It was so satisfying to you when they did that. So stop complaining. You deserve exactly what you are getting. It's too late to turn back now.


All of it deserved. He is the most horrifically corrupt president we have ever had, and if he was a Democrat doing the same sh*t, your head would literally pop off your body in rage.


That's your view. Don't complain as it boomerangs.


It's not a "view." It is a fact. He breaks the law routinely in a way no other president ever has. And we honestly are doing a terrible job of responding to it with enough force. He should be in jail if not hanged as a traitor.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If your kids school called and said that your child called another child ‘piggy’, ‘ugly’ or a ‘r*****’, would they be in trouble with you or no?

I’m going to say zero back, this is just actually the thing that most baffles me about trump voters



I've been very disappointed by previous administrations which act statesmanlike while things are on fire.

I really don't GAS what the complaints are against Trump's attitudes anymore.

Democrats arrested him, raided his house with a swat team, tried to get him removed from the ballot in several states, and instituted all manner of lawfare against him and his family.

They went after his lawyers and everyone has a right to representation.

Bottom line: Democrats salted the ground with poison. It was so satisfying to you when they did that. So stop complaining. You deserve exactly what you are getting. It's too late to turn back now.


Do you have any cites about previous admins when "things [were] on fire"?

These reporters are not political operatives; they are women doing their job. What rationale can you provide that Trump is excused when he calls them "piggy" or "ugly"? Moreover, why should people with Down Syndrome have to hear or read about Trump using the "r" word when referring to a political opponent? I especially find that confounding as one of his cabinet members has a child with Down Syndrome. Do you think people with Down Syndrome and their families are simply to ignore this slur? Did the Democrats really make him use crude and cruel language?

Is it really too late to conduct one's self in a civil fashion when that person is the head of state?


Your premise is rejected. The reporters are political operatives.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If your kids school called and said that your child called another child ‘piggy’, ‘ugly’ or a ‘r*****’, would they be in trouble with you or no?

I’m going to say zero back, this is just actually the thing that most baffles me about trump voters



I've been very disappointed by previous administrations which act statesmanlike while things are on fire.

I really don't GAS what the complaints are against Trump's attitudes anymore.

Democrats arrested him, raided his house with a swat team, tried to get him removed from the ballot in several states, and instituted all manner of lawfare against him and his family.

They went after his lawyers and everyone has a right to representation.

Bottom line: Democrats salted the ground with poison. It was so satisfying to you when they did that. So stop complaining. You deserve exactly what you are getting. It's too late to turn back now.


HE BROKE THE LAW. Holding him accountable is not lawfare.

Things were not great, but Trump is actively making them worse.

And there's no reason he can't enact policy while behaving with a modicum of respect for the office he holds.

You're a moron and a despicable human being.


A Senator by the name of Joe Biden took classified information home for decades, which he was not entitled to. Nevertheless, he had a very sympathetic DOJ.

Two standards... one for democrats, one for everyone else. Don't complain with retribution coming your way.


Every administration mishandles information and documents in some way. The difference is that when Biden was asked to return documents, he did.

Try again.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If your kids school called and said that your child called another child ‘piggy’, ‘ugly’ or a ‘r*****’, would they be in trouble with you or no?

I’m going to say zero back, this is just actually the thing that most baffles me about trump voters


Do you have teens? Piggy and ugly wouldn’t even register at school as being an issue. The language is terrible.


NP. I do. And if they ever referred to another child in these terms they wouldn't see their phone for a month. Do better.


Never mind how kids talk to each other, which I know is in the gutter. What if they insulted a teacher or a sales clerk or a coach or a doctor with language like this, just for doing their job?



All of it.


What if they said it to an ICE agent?


ICE agents hide behind their masks, so they can't tell if they're ugly or not, right?


Adding - if my kids ever uttered the R word in any context, the amount of hellfire that would rain down on them would be something to behold. It's never OK. Ever. It does actual harm to people with IDD and other disabilities. (I worked with people with disabilities until my job was considered too woke and I was laid off.) To suggest that it's a slur that's OK "sometimes" is flat out incorrect and you're part of the problem for suggesting it ever would be.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If your kids school called and said that your child called another child ‘piggy’, ‘ugly’ or a ‘r*****’, would they be in trouble with you or no?

I’m going to say zero back, this is just actually the thing that most baffles me about trump voters



I've been very disappointed by previous administrations which act statesmanlike while things are on fire.

I really don't GAS what the complaints are against Trump's attitudes anymore.

Democrats arrested him, raided his house with a swat team, tried to get him removed from the ballot in several states, and instituted all manner of lawfare against him and his family.

They went after his lawyers and everyone has a right to representation.

Bottom line: Democrats salted the ground with poison. It was so satisfying to you when they did that. So stop complaining. You deserve exactly what you are getting. It's too late to turn back now.


All of it deserved. He is the most horrifically corrupt president we have ever had, and if he was a Democrat doing the same sh*t, your head would literally pop off your body in rage.


That's your view. Don't complain as it boomerangs.


It's not a "view." It is a fact. He breaks the law routinely in a way no other president ever has. And we honestly are doing a terrible job of responding to it with enough force. He should be in jail if not hanged as a traitor.


No, it's your view.

Meanwhile, in the Biden administration there was influence peddling: https://oversight.house.gov/the-bidens-influence-peddling-timeline/
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If your kids school called and said that your child called another child ‘piggy’, ‘ugly’ or a ‘r*****’, would they be in trouble with you or no?

I’m going to say zero back, this is just actually the thing that most baffles me about trump voters



I've been very disappointed by previous administrations which act statesmanlike while things are on fire.

I really don't GAS what the complaints are against Trump's attitudes anymore.

Democrats arrested him, raided his house with a swat team, tried to get him removed from the ballot in several states, and instituted all manner of lawfare against him and his family.

They went after his lawyers and everyone has a right to representation.

Bottom line: Democrats salted the ground with poison. It was so satisfying to you when they did that. So stop complaining. You deserve exactly what you are getting. It's too late to turn back now.


HE BROKE THE LAW. Holding him accountable is not lawfare.

Things were not great, but Trump is actively making them worse.

And there's no reason he can't enact policy while behaving with a modicum of respect for the office he holds.

You're a moron and a despicable human being.


A Senator by the name of Joe Biden took classified information home for decades, which he was not entitled to. Nevertheless, he had a very sympathetic DOJ.

Two standards... one for democrats, one for everyone else. Don't complain with retribution coming your way.


Every administration mishandles information and documents in some way. The difference is that when Biden was asked to return documents, he did.

Try again.


Returning them after decades of having them and probably selling them?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If your kids school called and said that your child called another child ‘piggy’, ‘ugly’ or a ‘r*****’, would they be in trouble with you or no?

I’m going to say zero back, this is just actually the thing that most baffles me about trump voters



I've been very disappointed by previous administrations which act statesmanlike while things are on fire.

I really don't GAS what the complaints are against Trump's attitudes anymore.

Democrats arrested him, raided his house with a swat team, tried to get him removed from the ballot in several states, and instituted all manner of lawfare against him and his family.

They went after his lawyers and everyone has a right to representation.

Bottom line: Democrats salted the ground with poison. It was so satisfying to you when they did that. So stop complaining. You deserve exactly what you are getting. It's too late to turn back now.


HE BROKE THE LAW. Holding him accountable is not lawfare.

Things were not great, but Trump is actively making them worse.

And there's no reason he can't enact policy while behaving with a modicum of respect for the office he holds.

You're a moron and a despicable human being.


A Senator by the name of Joe Biden took classified information home for decades, which he was not entitled to. Nevertheless, he had a very sympathetic DOJ.

Two standards... one for democrats, one for everyone else. Don't complain with retribution coming your way.


Yes, they both took home documents that they shouldn’t have, but here are key differences:

- Volume: Trump had ~300 documents; Biden had ~20.

- Cooperation: Biden's team self-reported, voluntarily returned them, consented to searches and interviews; Trump allegedly obstructed (e.g., hid documents, lied to investigators), requiring FBI raid.

- Intent/Knowledge: Biden claimed surprise, believed materials personal; Trump claimed declassification (unsubstantiated) and showed documents to others.

- Staff Involvement: Trump's personal aide, Walt Nauta, was indicted for purposefully moving and hiding boxes of classified documents at Trump's direction, both before and after a subpoena to return them.

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:C’mom, be serious, OP. They don’t have morals. They have grievances, and nothing else.



They don’t have standards, just grievances.


Y'all cain't take away mah freedom.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If your kids school called and said that your child called another child ‘piggy’, ‘ugly’ or a ‘r*****’, would they be in trouble with you or no?

I’m going to say zero back, this is just actually the thing that most baffles me about trump voters



I've been very disappointed by previous administrations which act statesmanlike while things are on fire.

I really don't GAS what the complaints are against Trump's attitudes anymore.

Democrats arrested him, raided his house with a swat team, tried to get him removed from the ballot in several states, and instituted all manner of lawfare against him and his family.

They went after his lawyers and everyone has a right to representation.

Bottom line: Democrats salted the ground with poison. It was so satisfying to you when they did that. So stop complaining. You deserve exactly what you are getting. It's too late to turn back now.


All of it deserved. He is the most horrifically corrupt president we have ever had, and if he was a Democrat doing the same sh*t, your head would literally pop off your body in rage.


That's your view. Don't complain as it boomerangs.


It's not a "view." It is a fact. He breaks the law routinely in a way no other president ever has. And we honestly are doing a terrible job of responding to it with enough force. He should be in jail if not hanged as a traitor.


No, it's your view.

Meanwhile, in the Biden administration there was influence peddling: https://oversight.house.gov/the-bidens-influence-peddling-timeline/


Citing corrupt administration "facts" from a corrupt "investigation" and posted to corrupt government website. OK.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If your kids school called and said that your child called another child ‘piggy’, ‘ugly’ or a ‘r*****’, would they be in trouble with you or no?

I’m going to say zero back, this is just actually the thing that most baffles me about trump voters



I've been very disappointed by previous administrations which act statesmanlike while things are on fire.

I really don't GAS what the complaints are against Trump's attitudes anymore.

Democrats arrested him, raided his house with a swat team, tried to get him removed from the ballot in several states, and instituted all manner of lawfare against him and his family.

They went after his lawyers and everyone has a right to representation.

Bottom line: Democrats salted the ground with poison. It was so satisfying to you when they did that. So stop complaining. You deserve exactly what you are getting. It's too late to turn back now.


Do you have any cites about previous admins when "things [were] on fire"?

These reporters are not political operatives; they are women doing their job. What rationale can you provide that Trump is excused when he calls them "piggy" or "ugly"? Moreover, why should people with Down Syndrome have to hear or read about Trump using the "r" word when referring to a political opponent? I especially find that confounding as one of his cabinet members has a child with Down Syndrome. Do you think people with Down Syndrome and their families are simply to ignore this slur? Did the Democrats really make him use crude and cruel language?

Is it really too late to conduct one's self in a civil fashion when that person is the head of state?


Your premise is rejected. The reporters are political operatives.


I’m getting a bit of a Russia vibe from your posts. Or maybe Nigeria?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If your kids school called and said that your child called another child ‘piggy’, ‘ugly’ or a ‘r*****’, would they be in trouble with you or no?

I’m going to say zero back, this is just actually the thing that most baffles me about trump voters



I've been very disappointed by previous administrations which act statesmanlike while things are on fire.

I really don't GAS what the complaints are against Trump's attitudes anymore.

Democrats arrested him, raided his house with a swat team, tried to get him removed from the ballot in several states, and instituted all manner of lawfare against him and his family.

They went after his lawyers and everyone has a right to representation.

Bottom line: Democrats salted the ground with poison. It was so satisfying to you when they did that. So stop complaining. You deserve exactly what you are getting. It's too late to turn back now.


HE BROKE THE LAW. Holding him accountable is not lawfare.

Things were not great, but Trump is actively making them worse.

And there's no reason he can't enact policy while behaving with a modicum of respect for the office he holds.

You're a moron and a despicable human being.


A Senator by the name of Joe Biden took classified information home for decades, which he was not entitled to. Nevertheless, he had a very sympathetic DOJ.

Two standards... one for democrats, one for everyone else. Don't complain with retribution coming your way.


Yes, they both took home documents that they shouldn’t have, but here are key differences:

- Volume: Trump had ~300 documents; Biden had ~20.

- Cooperation: Biden's team self-reported, voluntarily returned them, consented to searches and interviews; Trump allegedly obstructed (e.g., hid documents, lied to investigators), requiring FBI raid.

- Intent/Knowledge: Biden claimed surprise, believed materials personal; Trump claimed declassification (unsubstantiated) and showed documents to others.

- Staff Involvement: Trump's personal aide, Walt Nauta, was indicted for purposefully moving and hiding boxes of classified documents at Trump's direction, both before and after a subpoena to return them.



I don't care about the volume. The president has a legal right to the documents since they are CICAF and a classification authority. The presidential records act also applies.

Senators are not classification authorities.
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