Honest q for conservatives: do you hold your kids to a higher standard than trump?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If your kids school called and said that your child called another child ‘piggy’, ‘ugly’ or a ‘r*****’, would they be in trouble with you or no?

I’m going to say zero back, this is just actually the thing that most baffles me about trump voters

Do you have teens? Piggy and ugly wouldn’t even register at school as being an issue. The language is terrible.

Teacher here. You are absolutely wrong about that. Any student would face consequences for saying those words to a classmate or staff member. The equivalent incident in a school setting wouldn’t even be name-calling between two students who don’t get along. The comparable situation at school would be if a student gave a presentation, and it was followed by a question from a peer that they couldn’t answer. So they just said, “quiet piggy.” Not that it is acceptable in either situation, but it is important to note what this would actually look like in a school setting. Not only would the teacher respond with consequences. The classmates who witnessed it would rush to their defense, and the name-calling kid would be called out by peers and socially ostracized for the foreseeable future. In other words, kids even have higher expectations of each other than the gop has for Trump.

You must work in a very nice school setting. I'd love to hear more about the consequences for derogatory remarks you're allowed to give at your school.

I think perhaps some of you of older and are not aware how much the culture around bullying has changed. I'm in my 30s and even when I was in high school, the person calling someone piggy or the r word would be the one ostracized, only encouraged by his fellow greasy loser friends. The kind of bullying you all seem to think is commonplace in schools has only existed in movies for a very long time.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I'm a conservative and I definitely hold my kids to a higher standard that Trump. I expect good manners, hard work, respect for the law, and kindness to others.

I did not vote for Trump and am not a trump supporter.

Thank you for addressing the actual question and not defending this behavior. It seems those who voted for Trump can't bring themselves to say that the behavior is inappropriate. I suppose it does reflect on the kind of person who would do so, and how they must carry themselves in other areas of their lives.

Given how few conservatives visit this site, this thread has quite a few conservative posters condemning Trump's words and behavior.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If your kids school called and said that your child called another child ‘piggy’, ‘ugly’ or a ‘r*****’, would they be in trouble with you or no?

I’m going to say zero back, this is just actually the thing that most baffles me about trump voters

Do you have teens? Piggy and ugly wouldn’t even register at school as being an issue. The language is terrible.

Teacher here. You are absolutely wrong about that. Any student would face consequences for saying those words to a classmate or staff member. The equivalent incident in a school setting wouldn’t even be name-calling between two students who don’t get along. The comparable situation at school would be if a student gave a presentation, and it was followed by a question from a peer that they couldn’t answer. So they just said, “quiet piggy.” Not that it is acceptable in either situation, but it is important to note what this would actually look like in a school setting. Not only would the teacher respond with consequences. The classmates who witnessed it would rush to their defense, and the name-calling kid would be called out by peers and socially ostracized for the foreseeable future. In other words, kids even have higher expectations of each other than the gop has for Trump.

You must work in a very nice school setting. I'd love to hear more about the consequences for derogatory remarks you're allowed to give at your school.

I think perhaps some of you of older and are not aware how much the culture around bullying has changed. I'm in my 30s and even when I was in high school, the person calling someone piggy or the r word would be the one ostracized, only encouraged by his fellow greasy loser friends. The kind of bullying you all seem to think is commonplace in schools has only existed in movies for a very long time.

PP here. I still work in a public school system. I agree that bullying is addressed more often today than previously, but consequences for bullying words and physically aggressive behaviors are very lenient in many schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:When you don't accept this behavior from your kids, why do you accept it from your President?

My kids? You mean my deplorables?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I'm a conservative and I definitely hold my kids to a higher standard that Trump. I expect good manners, hard work, respect for the law, and kindness to others.

I did not vote for Trump and am not a trump supporter.

Aka normal people

Yes, normal people that fire shots into ICE facilities and drive cars into people working for ICE? Or normal people that are into assassinating their political adversaries at speeches?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm a conservative and I definitely hold my kids to a higher standard that Trump. I expect good manners, hard work, respect for the law, and kindness to others.

I did not vote for Trump and am not a trump supporter.

Thank you for addressing the actual question and not defending this behavior. It seems those who voted for Trump can't bring themselves to say that the behavior is inappropriate. I suppose it does reflect on the kind of person who would do so, and how they must carry themselves in other areas of their lives.

Given how few conservatives visit this site, this thread has quite a few conservative posters condemning Trump's words and behavior.

Are you kidding? This site is overrun with Trumpy trolls.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm a conservative and I definitely hold my kids to a higher standard that Trump. I expect good manners, hard work, respect for the law, and kindness to others.

I did not vote for Trump and am not a trump supporter.

Thank you for addressing the actual question and not defending this behavior. It seems those who voted for Trump can't bring themselves to say that the behavior is inappropriate. I suppose it does reflect on the kind of person who would do so, and how they must carry themselves in other areas of their lives.

Given how few conservatives visit this site, this thread has quite a few conservative posters condemning Trump's words and behavior.

Are you kidding? This site is overrun with Trumpy trolls.

Not overrun. It's a very liberal forum.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:When you don't accept this behavior from your kids, why do you accept it from your President?

My kids? You mean my deplorables?

I mean, if you call your own kids deplorables, ok. I wouldn’t but you do you.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When you don't accept this behavior from your kids, why do you accept it from your President?

My kids? You mean my deplorables?

I mean, if you call your own kids deplorables, ok. I wouldn’t but you do you.

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm a conservative and I definitely hold my kids to a higher standard that Trump. I expect good manners, hard work, respect for the law, and kindness to others.

I did not vote for Trump and am not a trump supporter.

Aka normal people

Yes, normal people that fire shots into ICE facilities and drive cars into people working for ICE? Or normal people that are into assassinating their political adversaries at speeches?

Are you accusing PP of doing those things? That’s weird.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:If your kids school called and said that your child called another child ‘piggy’, ‘ugly’ or a ‘r*****’, would they be in trouble with you or no?

I’m going to say zero back, this is just actually the thing that most baffles me about trump voters

Have you ever been in a public high school? I can assure you that "piggy" would be viewed as a very mild word choice.

Just because they do it doesn't mean it is encouraged. Any responsible adult who hears kids talking to each other this way would at least tell them to knock it off, and depending on the circumstances, they'd be punished. Context matters. Crass jokes between friends is one thing and warrants one response, while bullying is different and would warrant a different response. The President of the United States should not be modeling either behavior. Anyone arguing otherwise is being disingenuous and should be ignored.

I agree with you; but my point is that not just Republicans have disrespectful kids who use bad, derogatory language. It's a socital problem that includes all groups.

Only one party has a president using this language with regularity. That’s the point.

PP here. I agree that he's obnoxious. I can't stand him. OP's post, as well as others' comments, suggested that it's a Republicans' parenting problem. I disagree.

Why do you disagree?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m pretty sure the people on this thread insinuating that their kids would be in super duper big trouble if they used the word “piggy” do not have kids, and have no idea what kids are like.

Trump wasn’t in school, was he? He was on the job, getting asked a question, which is a normal part of his job. If your teenager was at work, and responded to a normal question by calling someone a piggy or ugly, you’re okay with that?

[Anonymous]

My own MIL jokingly called our kids "piggy" when they would eat a lot when they were younger ("oh you piggy!") and I asked her to stop because if my kids repeated it at school, they would get in trouble.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm a conservative and I definitely hold my kids to a higher standard that Trump. I expect good manners, hard work, respect for the law, and kindness to others.

I did not vote for Trump and am not a trump supporter.

Thank you for addressing the actual question and not defending this behavior. It seems those who voted for Trump can't bring themselves to say that the behavior is inappropriate. I suppose it does reflect on the kind of person who would do so, and how they must carry themselves in other areas of their lives.

Given how few conservatives visit this site, this thread has quite a few conservative posters condemning Trump's words and behavior.

Are you kidding? This site is overrun with Trumpy trolls.

Not overrun. It's a very liberal forum.

It used to be. It hasn't been for a long time.

[Anonymous]

I dislike Trump, and didn’t vote for him, but I think the premise of your question is wrong. I would be mortified if my kids spoke or acted like Trump, but I would also be mortified if my son behaved like Clinton (including speaking about sexual assault victims the way HRC did, while Secretary of State) I don’t consider that a double standard in my parenting, I consider it an indictment of most of our political class these days (would have no problem with my kids speaking like Carter, Obama, or even either or the Bush Presidents)