Princeton to require test scores beginning in 2027
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Anonymous
Schools used to let in athletes with lower scores in the old days before test optional. I don’t see why this would change now. They just don’t want to drop academic standards for the entire college just so athletes can apply without test scores. |
Anonymous
This. Athletes scores were below the 25% and that was fine. It just means fewer other admitted students can be below that number. |
Anonymous
agree |
Anonymous
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lower scores for a subset of admits like athletes and donors hardly moves the needle in medium and large schools. Princeton can easily handle a few dozen 1200s/1300s in a class of 1500 kids and still come out with impressive looking stats.
This is not as true for SLACs where half the admits are hooked in one way or another |
Anonymous
They make most of their money from AP courses |
Anonymous
No, UChicago's score ranges are roughly identical to score ranges for Ivies per the 24-25 CDS with similar % submitting. We'll see if anything changes next spring. |
Anonymous
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Only shit schools and shit students defend test optional at this point.
If you are applying test optional to any selective school, the immediate and correct inference should be that you don’t belong there. |
Anonymous
LACs need sports recruiting to maintain gender parity. Team sports are a primary way for these schools to entice boys to semi-rural, nerdy environments. |
Anonymous
makes no sense as they have as many male as female athletes. |
Anonymous
Agree, but assume it would negatively impact the USNWR ranking for some of the true Div 1 teams mentioned. Don’t think they want to do that voluntarily? It’s not a problem for Princeton. They aren’t ever making a bowl game. The SEC and Big10 revenue share opportunities are huge for schools like Vanderbilt and Northwestern! It’s why all those west coast teams joined Big10 last year. With today’s funding gaps, these schools need to get more money from athletics - not less. This is true for a very small subset of schools. But it seems to me that a lot of the naive comments here don’t understand the underlying economics of how a university is run. An elite school sure, but one with competitive programming in revenue sports doesn’t care that you want them to “only” use test scores. They want their athletes. Agree with pp re Northwestern. I’m an alum. The news last week was shocking re Jayden. To get the basketball team Collin’s is putting together, definitely means no - not low - test scores. I’m also ok with that. ———- Four-star recruit Jayden Hodge will commit to Northwestern, Hodge announced Monday afternoon on Instagram. The Belgium native will enter campus next fall as the highest-ranked NU men’s basketball recruit in the modern era, according to 247 Sports’ composite ranking. “It was definitely a hard decision,” Hodge told The Daily. “But I felt confident and thought about it for a while, and I’m happy that I’ve made this decision.” Hodge attracted significant buzz among recruiters because of his unique two-way playmaking abilities. In 2024, he led Belgium to a seventh-place finish in the FIBA U18 EuroBasket championship, averaging 15.9 points, 6.9 rebounds and 3.7 assists per game. Beyond his offensive firepower, Hodge was a defensive pest, averaging 1.7 steals per game and just under one block per game. Following a recruiting cycle with three of NU’s highest recruits in program history — Tre Singleton, Jake West and Tyler Kropp — coach Chris Collins is showing no signs of slowing down. When Hodge visited campus in June, he received a tour from longtime friend and South Florida transfer Jayden Reid, a former roommate and teammate of Hodge’s older brother, Matthew. Hodge said he was struck by the beautiful campus and the academic rigor. More than anything, he said he felt truly wanted by Collins and the entire program.“ |
Anonymous
No one is saying the athletes have to have a GOOD score if they go back to test required. Do you think in the old days football players and basketball players had high SAT scores ? No, they did that. I’m sure most were under 1000. It’s fine. They can return to TR but have different standards for athletes of income generating sports. |
Anonymous
| Do we have so many athletes moms on this board? TO advocate is really tiring in 2025. Honey, TO or TR, your athletes sons are getting in. There is no need to hide his score. Have some integrity. |
Anonymous
So I get that athletes can contribute to the school community and I am fine with the fact that some people who contribute to the school greatly can slip in with lower credentials than average. However, for schools that care to have any academic prestige, there is also the rest of the university population which also needs to function. Such places will want to attract serious students, and attract faculty who want to teach advanced students. If some schools continue to ignore scholastic requirements for entry, they are not going to maintain their status in the long term, no matter how good their sports teams are. Things may have been different in previous years when there was less grade inflation and no ChatGPT to artificially inflate non-test credentials. But in today’s landscape you kind of need something else to help you pick out the brightest minds. Schools can ignore student achievement in the short run, but in the long run the reputation for lack of rigor will catch up with them. |
Anonymous
Feel better? Geez. You forgetting the fact they TO schools do this because they want the students that apply TO. They also want to pad their stats for folks like yourself that have a myopic view of student quality. |
Anonymous
I don’t think you understand what’s important to these schools. You think you know but don’t understand the budget. Brightest minds? lol |