Dolling yourself up for husband

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Love this thread women attacking women lol

Truly baffling that a woman doing things to please her partner somehow deserves condemnation. Let's ask these critical women how they react when their husband's ignore their desires and preferences.

What’s baffling to me is why none of you ask yourselves why women are doing all this while men do next to nothing. Really no reflection on that?

Think how much of your life and your $ you spend on this and then picture what your husband does with all his free time when he’s not doing any of this.

And by the way, I participate. I buy makeup and put it on and buy clothes that aren’t always comfortable and cram myself in uncomfortable shoes and spend time at the hair dresser getting highlights and blow my hair dry a lot of the time with all my hair products. That is the tip of the iceberg of what some women are doing.

But at least have some level of awareness this is kind of all bullshit and conveniently women are the ones doing all this to be “attractive”. It’s not women hating other women to point this out.

Sorry you married a dud. I control my eating habits to stay trim. I work out 5 days a week to stay toned. I spend time figuring out what colors of clothing look good on me. I spend time and money finding clothes that look sharp and fit well or having them altered to fit well (and in case you are unaware, and I'm guessing you are, good men's clothes are generally lot more expensive than comparable women's clothes because of the tailoring involved). I get haircuts regularly, far more often than she does. I select hair products that allow me to style my hair nicely without feeling or smelling weird. I pay attention to the deodorants and colognes I use. I shave my face and trim other parts regularly, especially if I expect that I'll be engaging physically. I go to therapy and read books about emotions and interpersonal relationships because I didn't get any of that shit growing up and needed to learn it later in life. And I do all this in response to her feedback - if she doesn't love a scent or a hair style, I abandon it and do something else. I'm not claiming I spend as much time on all this as she does, but I make a serious effort, and so does she, and that helps us both feel like the other respects us.

Sir. You are not doing even 10 percent of what most women are doing. But good for you for what you’re doing. Most men don’t bother.

He's doing twice as much as most of the women on this thread, who apparently think brushing their hair is subjugation.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Love this thread women attacking women lol

Truly baffling that a woman doing things to please her partner somehow deserves condemnation. Let's ask these critical women how they react when their husband's ignore their desires and preferences.

What’s baffling to me is why none of you ask yourselves why women are doing all this while men do next to nothing. Really no reflection on that?

Think how much of your life and your $ you spend on this and then picture what your husband does with all his free time when he’s not doing any of this.

And by the way, I participate. I buy makeup and put it on and buy clothes that aren’t always comfortable and cram myself in uncomfortable shoes and spend time at the hair dresser getting highlights and blow my hair dry a lot of the time with all my hair products. That is the tip of the iceberg of what some women are doing.

But at least have some level of awareness this is kind of all bullshit and conveniently women are the ones doing all this to be “attractive”. It’s not women hating other women to point this out.

Sorry you married a dud. I control my eating habits to stay trim. I work out 5 days a week to stay toned. I spend time figuring out what colors of clothing look good on me. I spend time and money finding clothes that look sharp and fit well or having them altered to fit well (and in case you are unaware, and I'm guessing you are, good men's clothes are generally lot more expensive than comparable women's clothes because of the tailoring involved). I get haircuts regularly, far more often than she does. I select hair products that allow me to style my hair nicely without feeling or smelling weird. I pay attention to the deodorants and colognes I use. I shave my face and trim other parts regularly, especially if I expect that I'll be engaging physically. I go to therapy and read books about emotions and interpersonal relationships because I didn't get any of that shit growing up and needed to learn it later in life. And I do all this in response to her feedback - if she doesn't love a scent or a hair style, I abandon it and do something else. I'm not claiming I spend as much time on all this as she does, but I make a serious effort, and so does she, and that helps us both feel like the other respects us.

Sir. You are not doing even 10 percent of what most women are doing. But good for you for what you’re doing. Most men don’t bother.

He's doing twice as much as most of the women on this thread, who apparently think brushing their hair is subjugation.

But is he redoing his whole routine in the bathroom before he leaves work to look and smell his best for his wife? If not he is a total loser.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Love this thread women attacking women lol

Truly baffling that a woman doing things to please her partner somehow deserves condemnation. Let's ask these critical women how they react when their husband's ignore their desires and preferences.

What’s baffling to me is why none of you ask yourselves why women are doing all this while men do next to nothing. Really no reflection on that?

Think how much of your life and your $ you spend on this and then picture what your husband does with all his free time when he’s not doing any of this.

And by the way, I participate. I buy makeup and put it on and buy clothes that aren’t always comfortable and cram myself in uncomfortable shoes and spend time at the hair dresser getting highlights and blow my hair dry a lot of the time with all my hair products. That is the tip of the iceberg of what some women are doing.

But at least have some level of awareness this is kind of all bullshit and conveniently women are the ones doing all this to be “attractive”. It’s not women hating other women to point this out.

Sorry you married a dud. I control my eating habits to stay trim. I work out 5 days a week to stay toned. I spend time figuring out what colors of clothing look good on me. I spend time and money finding clothes that look sharp and fit well or having them altered to fit well (and in case you are unaware, and I'm guessing you are, good men's clothes are generally lot more expensive than comparable women's clothes because of the tailoring involved). I get haircuts regularly, far more often than she does. I select hair products that allow me to style my hair nicely without feeling or smelling weird. I pay attention to the deodorants and colognes I use. I shave my face and trim other parts regularly, especially if I expect that I'll be engaging physically. I go to therapy and read books about emotions and interpersonal relationships because I didn't get any of that shit growing up and needed to learn it later in life. And I do all this in response to her feedback - if she doesn't love a scent or a hair style, I abandon it and do something else. I'm not claiming I spend as much time on all this as she does, but I make a serious effort, and so does she, and that helps us both feel like the other respects us.

I am not believing this was written by a heterosexual guy. PP, you are a gay man.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Love this thread women attacking women lol

Truly baffling that a woman doing things to please her partner somehow deserves condemnation. Let's ask these critical women how they react when their husband's ignore their desires and preferences.

What’s baffling to me is why none of you ask yourselves why women are doing all this while men do next to nothing. Really no reflection on that?

Think how much of your life and your $ you spend on this and then picture what your husband does with all his free time when he’s not doing any of this.

And by the way, I participate. I buy makeup and put it on and buy clothes that aren’t always comfortable and cram myself in uncomfortable shoes and spend time at the hair dresser getting highlights and blow my hair dry a lot of the time with all my hair products. That is the tip of the iceberg of what some women are doing.

But at least have some level of awareness this is kind of all bullshit and conveniently women are the ones doing all this to be “attractive”. It’s not women hating other women to point this out.

Sorry you married a dud. I control my eating habits to stay trim. I work out 5 days a week to stay toned. I spend time figuring out what colors of clothing look good on me. I spend time and money finding clothes that look sharp and fit well or having them altered to fit well (and in case you are unaware, and I'm guessing you are, good men's clothes are generally lot more expensive than comparable women's clothes because of the tailoring involved). I get haircuts regularly, far more often than she does. I select hair products that allow me to style my hair nicely without feeling or smelling weird. I pay attention to the deodorants and colognes I use. I shave my face and trim other parts regularly, especially if I expect that I'll be engaging physically. I go to therapy and read books about emotions and interpersonal relationships because I didn't get any of that shit growing up and needed to learn it later in life. And I do all this in response to her feedback - if she doesn't love a scent or a hair style, I abandon it and do something else. I'm not claiming I spend as much time on all this as she does, but I make a serious effort, and so does she, and that helps us both feel like the other respects us.

Sir. You are not doing even 10 percent of what most women are doing. But good for you for what you’re doing. Most men don’t bother.

He's doing twice as much as most of the women on this thread, who apparently think brushing their hair is subjugation.

Not really. Women who don’t wear makeup regularly are probably doing more than this guy in terms of personal grooming. Body hair removal and hair care alone.

How is it even debatable that beauty standards and even basic grooming standards to exist as a socially accepted person in this country is just a different level for women. Sure some men make an effort. Yay. That is not really the point. Men’s effort and women’s effort are not equal.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Love this thread women attacking women lol

Truly baffling that a woman doing things to please her partner somehow deserves condemnation. Let's ask these critical women how they react when their husband's ignore their desires and preferences.

What’s baffling to me is why none of you ask yourselves why women are doing all this while men do next to nothing. Really no reflection on that?

Think how much of your life and your $ you spend on this and then picture what your husband does with all his free time when he’s not doing any of this.

And by the way, I participate. I buy makeup and put it on and buy clothes that aren’t always comfortable and cram myself in uncomfortable shoes and spend time at the hair dresser getting highlights and blow my hair dry a lot of the time with all my hair products. That is the tip of the iceberg of what some women are doing.

But at least have some level of awareness this is kind of all bullshit and conveniently women are the ones doing all this to be “attractive”. It’s not women hating other women to point this out.

Sorry you married a dud. I control my eating habits to stay trim. I work out 5 days a week to stay toned. I spend time figuring out what colors of clothing look good on me. I spend time and money finding clothes that look sharp and fit well or having them altered to fit well (and in case you are unaware, and I'm guessing you are, good men's clothes are generally lot more expensive than comparable women's clothes because of the tailoring involved). I get haircuts regularly, far more often than she does. I select hair products that allow me to style my hair nicely without feeling or smelling weird. I pay attention to the deodorants and colognes I use. I shave my face and trim other parts regularly, especially if I expect that I'll be engaging physically. I go to therapy and read books about emotions and interpersonal relationships because I didn't get any of that shit growing up and needed to learn it later in life. And I do all this in response to her feedback - if she doesn't love a scent or a hair style, I abandon it and do something else. I'm not claiming I spend as much time on all this as she does, but I make a serious effort, and so does she, and that helps us both feel like the other respects us.

I am not believing this was written by a heterosexual guy. PP, you are a gay man.

I have one friend married to a guy like this. And I know a lot of women. I think they exist. But not typical.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think I'm quite beautiful naturally. I have great skin, beautiful eyes and nice lips. My husband never expects me to "doll" up and always tells me how beautiful I am as is.

LOL. I don’t know if you are naturally beautiful but you definitely don’t lack self-confidence.

And that's a problem?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Love this thread women attacking women lol

Truly baffling that a woman doing things to please her partner somehow deserves condemnation. Let's ask these critical women how they react when their husband's ignore their desires and preferences.

What’s baffling to me is why none of you ask yourselves why women are doing all this while men do next to nothing. Really no reflection on that?

Think how much of your life and your $ you spend on this and then picture what your husband does with all his free time when he’s not doing any of this.

And by the way, I participate. I buy makeup and put it on and buy clothes that aren’t always comfortable and cram myself in uncomfortable shoes and spend time at the hair dresser getting highlights and blow my hair dry a lot of the time with all my hair products. That is the tip of the iceberg of what some women are doing.

But at least have some level of awareness this is kind of all bullshit and conveniently women are the ones doing all this to be “attractive”. It’s not women hating other women to point this out.

Sorry you married a dud. I control my eating habits to stay trim. I work out 5 days a week to stay toned. I spend time figuring out what colors of clothing look good on me. I spend time and money finding clothes that look sharp and fit well or having them altered to fit well (and in case you are unaware, and I'm guessing you are, good men's clothes are generally lot more expensive than comparable women's clothes because of the tailoring involved). I get haircuts regularly, far more often than she does. I select hair products that allow me to style my hair nicely without feeling or smelling weird. I pay attention to the deodorants and colognes I use. I shave my face and trim other parts regularly, especially if I expect that I'll be engaging physically. I go to therapy and read books about emotions and interpersonal relationships because I didn't get any of that shit growing up and needed to learn it later in life. And I do all this in response to her feedback - if she doesn't love a scent or a hair style, I abandon it and do something else. I'm not claiming I spend as much time on all this as she does, but I make a serious effort, and so does she, and that helps us both feel like the other respects us.

I am not believing this was written by a heterosexual guy. PP, you are a gay man.

I have one friend married to a guy like this. And I know a lot of women. I think they exist. But not typical.

being married to a woman does not mean not gay.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think I'm quite beautiful naturally. I have great skin, beautiful eyes and nice lips. My husband never expects me to "doll" up and always tells me how beautiful I am as is.

LOL. I don’t know if you are naturally beautiful but you definitely don’t lack self-confidence.

Shouldn't all women feel beautiful? Why is that a bad thing?

the beauty industry is built on women believing they are not beautiful and enough naturally that they just need this or that.

[Anonymous]

Whenever I dress up even a little, wear a scent, and especially if I wear a skirt, my husband loses his mind. He's crazy about me. I'm lucky. I'm 54.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think I'm quite beautiful naturally. I have great skin, beautiful eyes and nice lips. My husband never expects me to "doll" up and always tells me how beautiful I am as is.

My BFF is like this . never a stitch of makeup. she's gorgeous with great skin. Mean don't seem to mind her lack of makeup.

[Anonymous]

I doll myself up for ME and I honestly don’t believe my husband cares at all. I think he is generally appreciative that I am taking good care of myself and not “letting myself go.”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Love this thread women attacking women lol

Truly baffling that a woman doing things to please her partner somehow deserves condemnation. Let's ask these critical women how they react when their husband's ignore their desires and preferences.

What’s baffling to me is why none of you ask yourselves why women are doing all this while men do next to nothing. Really no reflection on that?

Think how much of your life and your $ you spend on this and then picture what your husband does with all his free time when he’s not doing any of this.

And by the way, I participate. I buy makeup and put it on and buy clothes that aren’t always comfortable and cram myself in uncomfortable shoes and spend time at the hair dresser getting highlights and blow my hair dry a lot of the time with all my hair products. That is the tip of the iceberg of what some women are doing.

But at least have some level of awareness this is kind of all bullshit and conveniently women are the ones doing all this to be “attractive”. It’s not women hating other women to point this out.

Sorry you married a dud. I control my eating habits to stay trim. I work out 5 days a week to stay toned. I spend time figuring out what colors of clothing look good on me. I spend time and money finding clothes that look sharp and fit well or having them altered to fit well (and in case you are unaware, and I'm guessing you are, good men's clothes are generally lot more expensive than comparable women's clothes because of the tailoring involved). I get haircuts regularly, far more often than she does. I select hair products that allow me to style my hair nicely without feeling or smelling weird. I pay attention to the deodorants and colognes I use. I shave my face and trim other parts regularly, especially if I expect that I'll be engaging physically. I go to therapy and read books about emotions and interpersonal relationships because I didn't get any of that shit growing up and needed to learn it later in life. And I do all this in response to her feedback - if she doesn't love a scent or a hair style, I abandon it and do something else. I'm not claiming I spend as much time on all this as she does, but I make a serious effort, and so does she, and that helps us both feel like the other respects us.

Sir. You are not doing even 10 percent of what most women are doing. But good for you for what you’re doing. Most men don’t bother.

He's doing twice as much as most of the women on this thread, who apparently think brushing their hair is subjugation.

But is he redoing his whole routine in the bathroom before he leaves work to look and smell his best for his wife? If not he is a total loser.

I'm the PP. I try to keep myself together over the course of the day. When I walk in the door (assuming she's home first), I want her to feel excited to see me (plus of course a breath freshener before I walk in).

Years ago, I was seeing someone. She was definitely the type to get dolled up. I didn't think much about myself. One night when he had a date, I was waiting in the lobby of her building when I saw her pop out of the elevator and then immediately spin around and go back up. Twenty minutes later, she reemerged. Here's what happened: she was dressed to the nines, but then she saw that I was wearing jeans, a tee, and sneakers, and so she went back to her apartment to dress down to my level. I didn't say anything about it, but I felt embarrassed the whole night. I learned a few things: Make a specific plan, tell her the plan in advance so she can have a sense of the occasion, and dress commensurate with her. So, now I have a closet prepared for any occasion, from loafing to a night on the town. I routinely see schlubs walking around with dolled-up women and feel sad for the women and embarrassed for the men -- show some respect.

Anyway, am I doing as much as she? No. But here's another thing I have learned: show appreciation for that. I no longer get irritated if we're running late because she took too long to get ready or if she spent a little more than I'd like on beauty. I like the end product and I understand that doesn't come from snapping her fingers, so I'm patient and communicate my excitement for what she does.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Love this thread women attacking women lol

Truly baffling that a woman doing things to please her partner somehow deserves condemnation. Let's ask these critical women how they react when their husband's ignore their desires and preferences.

What’s baffling to me is why none of you ask yourselves why women are doing all this while men do next to nothing. Really no reflection on that?

Think how much of your life and your $ you spend on this and then picture what your husband does with all his free time when he’s not doing any of this.

And by the way, I participate. I buy makeup and put it on and buy clothes that aren’t always comfortable and cram myself in uncomfortable shoes and spend time at the hair dresser getting highlights and blow my hair dry a lot of the time with all my hair products. That is the tip of the iceberg of what some women are doing.

But at least have some level of awareness this is kind of all bullshit and conveniently women are the ones doing all this to be “attractive”. It’s not women hating other women to point this out.

Sorry you married a dud. I control my eating habits to stay trim. I work out 5 days a week to stay toned. I spend time figuring out what colors of clothing look good on me. I spend time and money finding clothes that look sharp and fit well or having them altered to fit well (and in case you are unaware, and I'm guessing you are, good men's clothes are generally lot more expensive than comparable women's clothes because of the tailoring involved). I get haircuts regularly, far more often than she does. I select hair products that allow me to style my hair nicely without feeling or smelling weird. I pay attention to the deodorants and colognes I use. I shave my face and trim other parts regularly, especially if I expect that I'll be engaging physically. I go to therapy and read books about emotions and interpersonal relationships because I didn't get any of that shit growing up and needed to learn it later in life. And I do all this in response to her feedback - if she doesn't love a scent or a hair style, I abandon it and do something else. I'm not claiming I spend as much time on all this as she does, but I make a serious effort, and so does she, and that helps us both feel like the other respects us.

Sir. You are not doing even 10 percent of what most women are doing. But good for you for what you’re doing. Most men don’t bother.

He's doing twice as much as most of the women on this thread, who apparently think brushing their hair is subjugation.

But is he redoing his whole routine in the bathroom before he leaves work to look and smell his best for his wife? If not he is a total loser.

I'm the PP. I try to keep myself together over the course of the day. When I walk in the door (assuming she's home first), I want her to feel excited to see me (plus of course a breath freshener before I walk in).

Years ago, I was seeing someone. She was definitely the type to get dolled up. I didn't think much about myself. One night when he had a date, I was waiting in the lobby of her building when I saw her pop out of the elevator and then immediately spin around and go back up. Twenty minutes later, she reemerged. Here's what happened: she was dressed to the nines, but then she saw that I was wearing jeans, a tee, and sneakers, and so she went back to her apartment to dress down to my level. I didn't say anything about it, but I felt embarrassed the whole night. I learned a few things: Make a specific plan, tell her the plan in advance so she can have a sense of the occasion, and dress commensurate with her. So, now I have a closet prepared for any occasion, from loafing to a night on the town. I routinely see schlubs walking around with dolled-up women and feel sad for the women and embarrassed for the men -- show some respect.

Anyway, am I doing as much as she? No. But here's another thing I have learned: show appreciation for that. I no longer get irritated if we're running late because she took too long to get ready or if she spent a little more than I'd like on beauty. I like the end product and I understand that doesn't come from snapping her fingers, so I'm patient and communicate my excitement for what she does.

I don't know what to say about this gentleman(?)...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Love this thread women attacking women lol

Truly baffling that a woman doing things to please her partner somehow deserves condemnation. Let's ask these critical women how they react when their husband's ignore their desires and preferences.

What’s baffling to me is why none of you ask yourselves why women are doing all this while men do next to nothing. Really no reflection on that?

Think how much of your life and your $ you spend on this and then picture what your husband does with all his free time when he’s not doing any of this.

And by the way, I participate. I buy makeup and put it on and buy clothes that aren’t always comfortable and cram myself in uncomfortable shoes and spend time at the hair dresser getting highlights and blow my hair dry a lot of the time with all my hair products. That is the tip of the iceberg of what some women are doing.

But at least have some level of awareness this is kind of all bullshit and conveniently women are the ones doing all this to be “attractive”. It’s not women hating other women to point this out.

Sorry you married a dud. I control my eating habits to stay trim. I work out 5 days a week to stay toned. I spend time figuring out what colors of clothing look good on me. I spend time and money finding clothes that look sharp and fit well or having them altered to fit well (and in case you are unaware, and I'm guessing you are, good men's clothes are generally lot more expensive than comparable women's clothes because of the tailoring involved). I get haircuts regularly, far more often than she does. I select hair products that allow me to style my hair nicely without feeling or smelling weird. I pay attention to the deodorants and colognes I use. I shave my face and trim other parts regularly, especially if I expect that I'll be engaging physically. I go to therapy and read books about emotions and interpersonal relationships because I didn't get any of that shit growing up and needed to learn it later in life. And I do all this in response to her feedback - if she doesn't love a scent or a hair style, I abandon it and do something else. I'm not claiming I spend as much time on all this as she does, but I make a serious effort, and so does she, and that helps us both feel like the other respects us.

Sir. You are not doing even 10 percent of what most women are doing. But good for you for what you’re doing. Most men don’t bother.

He's doing twice as much as most of the women on this thread, who apparently think brushing their hair is subjugation.

Not really. Women who don’t wear makeup regularly are probably doing more than this guy in terms of personal grooming. Body hair removal and hair care alone.

I don't think this is true. A lot of women don't do much at all. Finer leg hair means they may only be shaving legs once a week. Lots of women don't dye their hair and only get cuts every 3-4 months, and don't wear make up. Lots of those women are responding on this thread. I know many women do spend a lot of time on beauty, and they think they are required to do so by cultural standards. But a lot of women don't. Or only do it once every week or two when they're going out.

How is it even debatable that beauty standards and even basic grooming standards to exist as a socially accepted person in this country is just a different level for women. Sure some men make an effort. Yay. That is not really the point. Men’s effort and women’s effort are not equal.

I mean, I love clothes so i am always dressed up that way, and i get my hair dyed and cut every 9 weeks. But i haven't blow dried my hair at home in 10+ years, and my make up routine for going out is 45 seconds -- and i only do that every week or so if I socializing. I wax my legs every 2-3 months. I look pretty good all the time, thanks to being skinny (working out) and nice clothes. I have a lot of friends who look a lot worse than me - and that's because they're spending less time than I am getting ready. Have you looked around at a PTO meeting? 35-45 year old women mostly look pretty meh and are not spending hours a day on beauty. Much like men.

So again, i know lots of women spend a lot of time on beauty. And there is a double standard on beauty. But a lot of women don't spend time on beauty and have equally fulfilling lives and marriages.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Love this thread women attacking women lol

Truly baffling that a woman doing things to please her partner somehow deserves condemnation. Let's ask these critical women how they react when their husband's ignore their desires and preferences.

What’s baffling to me is why none of you ask yourselves why women are doing all this while men do next to nothing. Really no reflection on that?

Think how much of your life and your $ you spend on this and then picture what your husband does with all his free time when he’s not doing any of this.

And by the way, I participate. I buy makeup and put it on and buy clothes that aren’t always comfortable and cram myself in uncomfortable shoes and spend time at the hair dresser getting highlights and blow my hair dry a lot of the time with all my hair products. That is the tip of the iceberg of what some women are doing.

But at least have some level of awareness this is kind of all bullshit and conveniently women are the ones doing all this to be “attractive”. It’s not women hating other women to point this out.

Sorry you married a dud. I control my eating habits to stay trim. I work out 5 days a week to stay toned. I spend time figuring out what colors of clothing look good on me. I spend time and money finding clothes that look sharp and fit well or having them altered to fit well (and in case you are unaware, and I'm guessing you are, good men's clothes are generally lot more expensive than comparable women's clothes because of the tailoring involved). I get haircuts regularly, far more often than she does. I select hair products that allow me to style my hair nicely without feeling or smelling weird. I pay attention to the deodorants and colognes I use. I shave my face and trim other parts regularly, especially if I expect that I'll be engaging physically. I go to therapy and read books about emotions and interpersonal relationships because I didn't get any of that shit growing up and needed to learn it later in life. And I do all this in response to her feedback - if she doesn't love a scent or a hair style, I abandon it and do something else. I'm not claiming I spend as much time on all this as she does, but I make a serious effort, and so does she, and that helps us both feel like the other respects us.

I am not believing this was written by a heterosexual guy. PP, you are a gay man.

I have one friend married to a guy like this. And I know a lot of women. I think they exist. But not typical.

being married to a woman does not mean not gay.

Sorry to disappoint, but I am a 0 on the Kinsey scale.