FCPS investigating alleged instances of staff arranging abortions for students

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Pro choice here, rabidly so. It's not appropriate for a teacher to get involved with this. I could see if they said, "google planned parenthood" but beyond that, they cannot "help" a kid get a medical procedure.

The letter from the 17 year old girl is floating around the Internet. The girl, an ESOL student, wrote the letter in Spanish, and it appears on the Internet with an English translation. The girl wrote that her parents would be upset, but this of course does not mean there was abuse. she asserts the social worker at the school arranged and paid for the procedure.

My heart broke a little reading the letter. it looked like it was written by a teen,,complete with hearts in lieu of dots above the i"s.What emerges from the letter is a girl who was panicked.

I am pro choice but the schools simply can't do what is alleged. Note that the liberal elitist sensibilities don't work well here. Many Hispanic families dislike abortion.

I read the article that was posted on x. It mentioned that there is a teacher who the girl(s) spoke with who is willing to be public. She is an ESOL teacher. If this is true, it is not good for FCPS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is stupid. So what if a girl is pregnant and goes to her counselor for help, the counselor should just say "go talk to your momma" even though the girl knows that momma will just beat her and force her to have a baby she doesn't want? THANK YOU to the staff who helped these girls.

-You're an idiot or 13 years old. Either way, stop commenting on public websites meant for adult conversations.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:"Fairfax County Public Schools (FCPS) tells 7News Reporter Nick Minock that they are launching an investigation into claims that school staff arranged abortions for students and didn’t tell their parents."

There needs to be more done than the school system investigating itself. This is wild.


https://wjla.com/news/local/student-abortions-fairfax-county-public-schools-investigation-staff-arranged-reproductive-health-fcps-centerville-high-school-minors-taxfunded-virginia-employee-parents-sex-education-regulation-2504

School workers have convinced the kids that parents just don’t understand, only teachers do.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Lot of legal scholars here lol

Only the looniest would think this is ok or defensible.

Has anyone here said that this is OK or defensible?

Are you joking? Have you even read this thread, starting on page 1??
DP

Any time an abortion happens, it is a good thing. How is a 17 year old having a child good in any way?

Wow. A new low for DCUM

You did not answer the question. How is a 17 year old having a child good in any way?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Lot of legal scholars here lol

Only the looniest would think this is ok or defensible.

Has anyone here said that this is OK or defensible?

Are you joking? Have you even read this thread, starting on page 1??
DP

Any time an abortion happens, it is a good thing. How is a 17 year old having a child good in any way?

Wow. A new low for DCUM

You did not answer the question. How is a 17 year old having a child good in any way?

Obama's mother was 19.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It's astounding to me that people on this board are taking it on faith that the story outlined in a blog post that was picked up by WJLA is factually accurate. There needs to be an investigation to see if this was accurate. But even if it was, this allegedly happened four years ago in one school. The headline on this thread suggests this is widespread at FCPS and I seriously doubt that it is case.

You can tell early voting is about to start in Virginia.

In what way does the headline imply it's widespread?

It certainly implies more than 1 which is what is alleged.

It's alleged two were arranged, but one of the girls fled the clinic, which makes the thread title accurate.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This is stupid. So what if a girl is pregnant and goes to her counselor for help, the counselor should just say "go talk to your momma" even though the girl knows that momma will just beat her and force her to have a baby she doesn't want? THANK YOU to the staff who helped these girls.

These girls were minors. I can't even believe someone would think like you. This is ILLEGAL - and I'm pro-choice.

Illegal?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Abortion for minors is illegal in VA without parent involvement, unless the minor gets judicial bypass. So was there judicial bypass for the 17-year-old? I highly doubt that any abortion clinic is going to risk their continued existence by providing abortions to minors without proven parental consent. They’re plenty busy with legal procedures.

Lots of questions here.

This. I think folks need to slow their roll for a hot second because the story as reported does not make sense.

If they got a judicial bypass, it's still probably not the role of the teacher to do the driving/paying, but it makes the whole thing make more sense.

If the girl was actually 18, it's again an edge case in terms of teacher involvement, but not illegal.

Basically, it seems that one teacher got overly emotionally involved with students and saw it as her role to help them get a medical procedure that they wanted, and that they might have found it difficult to access otherwise. That's certainly suggests a lack of appropriate boundaries, but it's honestly pretty relatable.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Abortion for minors is illegal in VA without parent involvement, unless the minor gets judicial bypass. So was there judicial bypass for the 17-year-old? I highly doubt that any abortion clinic is going to risk their continued existence by providing abortions to minors without proven parental consent. They’re plenty busy with legal procedures.

Lots of questions here.

This. I think folks need to slow their roll for a hot second because the story as reported does not make sense.

If they got a judicial bypass, it's still probably not the role of the teacher to do the driving/paying, but it makes the whole thing make more sense.

If the girl was actually 18, it's again an edge case in terms of teacher involvement, but not illegal.

Basically, it seems that one teacher got overly emotionally involved with students and saw it as her role to help them get a medical procedure that they wanted, and that they might have found it difficult to access otherwise. That's certainly suggests a lack of appropriate boundaries, but it's honestly pretty relatable.

If the counselor or social worker did this they need to be prosecuted. And they should seek the death penalty. Also that school principal should be fired along with any teacher who knew about this and did nothing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is stupid. So what if a girl is pregnant and goes to her counselor for help, the counselor should just say "go talk to your momma" even though the girl knows that momma will just beat her and force her to have a baby she doesn't want? THANK YOU to the staff who helped these girls.

You’re the green slimy stuff that gets stuck at the bottom of a trash can after school lunch.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Abortion for minors is illegal in VA without parent involvement, unless the minor gets judicial bypass. So was there judicial bypass for the 17-year-old? I highly doubt that any abortion clinic is going to risk their continued existence by providing abortions to minors without proven parental consent. They’re plenty busy with legal procedures.

Lots of questions here.

This. I think folks need to slow their roll for a hot second because the story as reported does not make sense.

If they got a judicial bypass, it's still probably not the role of the teacher to do the driving/paying, but it makes the whole thing make more sense.

If the girl was actually 18, it's again an edge case in terms of teacher involvement, but not illegal.

Basically, it seems that one teacher got overly emotionally involved with students and saw it as her role to help them get a medical procedure that they wanted, and that they might have found it difficult to access otherwise. That's certainly suggests a lack of appropriate boundaries, but it's honestly pretty relatable.

The allegation doesn’t involve a teacher.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I read/watched the WJLA reporting and the underlying reporting. Setting aside the politics and the applicable law, this reporting included:

- Two ESOL students who submitted written testimony.

- A current ESOL teacher who gave her name on the record.

On this thread I see:

- One group apparently, apparently in support of political party A, dragging the story by accusing political party B of making things up for political gain during an election season.

Ironically, political party A touts itself as the defenders of all teachers and all students, especially ESOL teachers and ESOL students. I don’t see that happening here.

Maybe take a pause from the politics and be kind to the real humans involved who put their names in the record?

Consider those real people before you smear a teacher and two students who bravely spoke out for your own political goals.

You are coming off as more concerned about FCPS as some monolithic, political institution than the students and teachers that ARE FCPS.

You are full of sht. No one is “smearing” the teachers and students.

We are calling out the political a-holes pushing this story on DCUM.

You’re doing that, I’m smearing some teachers.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Abortion for minors is illegal in VA without parent involvement, unless the minor gets judicial bypass. So was there judicial bypass for the 17-year-old? I highly doubt that any abortion clinic is going to risk their continued existence by providing abortions to minors without proven parental consent. They’re plenty busy with legal procedures.

Lots of questions here.

This. I think folks need to slow their roll for a hot second because the story as reported does not make sense.

If they got a judicial bypass, it's still probably not the role of the teacher to do the driving/paying, but it makes the whole thing make more sense.

If the girl was actually 18, it's again an edge case in terms of teacher involvement, but not illegal.

Basically, it seems that one teacher got overly emotionally involved with students and saw it as her role to help them get a medical procedure that they wanted, and that they might have found it difficult to access otherwise. That's certainly suggests a lack of appropriate boundaries, but it's honestly pretty relatable.

The allegation doesn’t involve a teacher.[/quote]

From what I read, the allegation involves a school social worker and a principal.

This is what should have happened:

It could have been referred to CPS. CPS should have contacted the parent.

This should not be handled at the school level under any circumstances. This is not the school's role.

[Anonymous]

This mess is bad enough as it stands, a serious crime is being alledged and the truth needs to come out. But the way the information is coming out is designed to influence the election, the two guys on Twitter who are making the reports are trickling out what they know while encouraging speculation. Instead of teasing that there is more to come they need to release what they have and let an honest investigation begin. Meanwhile Reid and FCPS appear to have gone into full cover up mode, which only plays into the hands of the bad actors.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Abortion for minors is illegal in VA without parent involvement, unless the minor gets judicial bypass. So was there judicial bypass for the 17-year-old? I highly doubt that any abortion clinic is going to risk their continued existence by providing abortions to minors without proven parental consent. They’re plenty busy with legal procedures.

Lots of questions here.

This. I think folks need to slow their roll for a hot second because the story as reported does not make sense.

If they got a judicial bypass, it's still probably not the role of the teacher to do the driving/paying, but it makes the whole thing make more sense.

If the girl was actually 18, it's again an edge case in terms of teacher involvement, but not illegal.

Basically, it seems that one teacher got overly emotionally involved with students and saw it as her role to help them get a medical procedure that they wanted, and that they might have found it difficult to access otherwise. That's certainly suggests a lack of appropriate boundaries, but it's honestly pretty relatable.

The allegation doesn’t involve a teacher.

The allegation is that a teacher is the whistle blower.