FCPS investigating alleged instances of staff arranging abortions for students

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If true.....this is not okay. The school has no right to insert themselves in such matters.

What if the child ASKED FOR HELP. Help that their parents were unwilling to provide? What if the parents were the problem? There are parents who traffic their children and parents who sexually abuse their children. If someone is helping a child, thank goodness.

[Anonymous]

Says ESOL, were the parents and/or teens illegal citizens?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If true.....this is not okay. The school has no right to insert themselves in such matters.

What if the child ASKED FOR HELP. Help that their parents were unwilling to provide? What if the parents were the problem? There are parents who traffic their children and parents who sexually abuse their children. If someone is helping a child, thank goodness.

This was my thought too ^^

Did fcps just offer options - all options /range of choices - (adoption, crisis pregnancy centers, planned parenthood)?
And no particular option was encouraged; just presented?

Also, the minor consent laws in VA can be a bit gray.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Teenagers are allowed to consent to their own medical treatment. If a teacher was there to be supportive, great. That has nothing to do with FCPS. No one was coerced. These obviously weren't rich kids that would call an uber. These are the kids that need help accessing care.

DD just had knee surgery and I assure you that this was not the case.

You are conflating two very different things. Presumably you would have consented to a knee surgery no matter what. Would you have consented to an abortion? Would you have helped her schedule and drive her to it? A lot of parents would not, even if it was in their daughter's best interest.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If true.....this is not okay. The school has no right to insert themselves in such matters.

What if the child ASKED FOR HELP. Help that their parents were unwilling to provide? What if the parents were the problem? There are parents who traffic their children and parents who sexually abuse their children. If someone is helping a child, thank goodness.

That's a pretty big hypothetical. So in your telling of the story the heroic school employee got the girl an abortion, then sent her back to the sex traffickers?

[Anonymous]

I get that this is posted by a Republican trying to stir up trouble in an election year but let's not forget that this happened under a Republican governor. What would Winsome Earles-Searles have done differently from Glenn Youngkin that would have prevented this from happening? Oh, nothing.

[Anonymous]

There's protocol for staff in these situations. This wasn't it. I'm pro-choice but if this student was in an unsafe situation, as some people have suggested, that's a CPS issue and you document accordingly. You're not supposed to wing it and hope no one finds out.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If true.....this is not okay. The school has no right to insert themselves in such matters.

What if the child ASKED FOR HELP. Help that their parents were unwilling to provide? What if the parents were the problem? There are parents who traffic their children and parents who sexually abuse their children. If someone is helping a child, thank goodness.

If this were the case, shouldn't the school social worker, at the least, have been looped in? Wouldn't this ESOL teacher also be a mandated reporter? There are a lot of holes in this story and all of the speculation is just that. Hopefully the whole truth will be revealed, but this thread isn't helping it come to light

[Anonymous]

Did any of this happen on school grounds? Or while any of the staff were on contract (vs. after school hours)?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If true.....this is not okay. The school has no right to insert themselves in such matters.

What if the child ASKED FOR HELP. Help that their parents were unwilling to provide? What if the parents were the problem? There are parents who traffic their children and parents who sexually abuse their children. If someone is helping a child, thank goodness.

If this were the case, shouldn't the school social worker, at the least, have been looped in? Wouldn't this ESOL teacher also be a mandated reporter? There are a lot of holes in this story and all of the speculation is just that. Hopefully the whole truth will be revealed, but this thread isn't helping it come to light

Sometimes there are edge cases. That the parents finding out wouldn't be severe enough for CPS to intervene but it would be severe enough for the kid to be in a really bad situation at home.

Ultimately, you can argue about protocol, yes FCPS has rules and apparently one teacher four years ago didn't follow them. But when faced with a scared kid (who maybe was 18, the report isn't clear), this one person with facts we have NO idea about made a judgment call. Am I going to see this as a huge scandal? Heck no.

[Anonymous]

It's astounding to me that people on this board are taking it on faith that the story outlined in a blog post that was picked up by WJLA is factually accurate. There needs to be an investigation to see if this was accurate. But even if it was, this allegedly happened four years ago in one school. The headline on this thread suggests this is widespread at FCPS and I seriously doubt that it is case.

You can tell early voting is about to start in Virginia.

[Anonymous]

Lot of crazy triggered in here today lol

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Teenagers are allowed to consent to their own medical treatment. If a teacher was there to be supportive, great. That has nothing to do with FCPS. No one was coerced. These obviously weren't rich kids that would call an uber. These are the kids that need help accessing care.

DD just had knee surgery and I assure you that this was not the case.

You are conflating two very different things. Presumably you would have consented to a knee surgery no matter what. Would you have consented to an abortion? Would you have helped her schedule and drive her to it? A lot of parents would not, even if it was in their daughter's best interest.

According to Planned Parenthood, abortion is "health care." No child gets health care without parental permission.

Also, some posters on here are bigots. They are implying that Hispanic kids are trafficked and abused and therefore the school has to provide abortion.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Teenagers are allowed to consent to their own medical treatment. If a teacher was there to be supportive, great. That has nothing to do with FCPS. No one was coerced. These obviously weren't rich kids that would call an uber. These are the kids that need help accessing care.

DD just had knee surgery and I assure you that this was not the case.

You are conflating two very different things. Presumably you would have consented to a knee surgery no matter what. Would you have consented to an abortion? Would you have helped her schedule and drive her to it? A lot of parents would not, even if it was in their daughter's best interest.

According to Planned Parenthood, abortion is "health care." No child gets health care without parental permission.

Also, some posters on here are bigots. They are implying that Hispanic kids are trafficked and abused and therefore the school has to provide abortion.

Abortion is health care. It is a great thing and should be promoted, not vilified.

[Anonymous]

“A staff member may have done X” is also not the same as “the school/principal knew about and approved X,” much less “FCPS knew about and approved of X.”

My hope is that FCPS turns this over to law enforcement and an external investigation. Their internal credibility is shot, and even if 1) this flat out didn’t happen or as I suspect 2) this was a staff member going rogue, if the investigation is internal many people won’t accept the results.

The sensational aspects of the original blog post (one of the teens was told by the SOCIAL WORKER that she “had no choice” and then she had to flee the clinic? As if any abortion provider would try to proceed under those circumstances?) sound highly exaggerated at the very least. These details sound like ones that would be made up by someone who is trying to make everything sound as dramatic and nefarious as possible.

I’m very curious about the staff member that came forward (why 4 years later?) and her employment history.

Bottom line: External investigation, find out the verifiable facts, ignore social media hysteria, nail anyone who broke the law or acted in opposition to school district regulations.