TJ 2025 seniors destination

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Anonymous wrote:Isn’t this the class that was admitted with the new admissions to have less Asians?

Yes, and no. This class was admitted under the new system but has historically high Asian enrollment. In fact, the change helped low-income Asians mroe than any other group.

The class of 2025 admitted a significantly lower percent of Asian students and ALSO admitted a significantly higher percent of low income Asians with bonus points who were admitted over other Asian students who had higher grades or essay scores.

What is categories as “significant” here?. The Farms rate under new admissions is still very low only around 11%. Big majority TJ students is still from wealthy family.

It was 25% farm for the class of 2025.

Yes, but then it dropped to 10% because so many of the FARM kids got really bad grades and went back to their base schools much worse off than if they had never attended at all.

Cite, proof?

Wait, you know that a large number of FARM kids went back to their base school after freshman year but you want proof that they did so because of their bad grades? Are you stupid?

DP. There are a lot of reasons why someone may choose to leave TJ.

You are fabricating the narrative around the grades and the students being “worse off”.

But we all know that is exactly what happened. It's no secret which kids were struggling academically.

DP
Who is “we” in here? If it is you and your coalition it is not “we all”.
Also are you following around “Billy the poor” at TJ and know every single move they do and their grades?
TJ students could left freshmen year because of commute, other family circumstance, doesn’t like the environment and the teacher (doesn’t fit) and etc…

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PP is full of sht.

No. The PP is totally right. We aren't doing these unprepared kids any favors. A TJ diploma isn't enough of an advantage (or any advantage at all) over a FCPS diploma to justify this. You're not giving black kids or poor kids a boost. It's not like getting an ivy diploma that opens doors for you. ATJ diploma doesn't open a while lot of doors but that shitty GPA can close a few. It's just destructive virtue signaling.

More assumptions about who is leaving and why.

Thanks for telling us, yet again, what you think about black and poor kids.

Disgusting.

If white kids and Asian kids were the ones getting a race based preference they would be the ones that are under-qualified.

Haven't you idiots learned your lesson yet, baseless accusations of racism don't work, especially when discussing affirmative action or other racial preferences.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We don't have the data so we don't know.

What we do know,

1) Kids have always left TJ. Some because of grades, some because of the commute, some because of fit.

2) It appears that more kids are leaving TJ after the change in admissions.

My thought is that TJ is a highly competitive school. There are plenty of smart kids who take Algebra 1 in 8th grade, but those kids might find them feeling isolated because most of the students at TJ will be taking Algebra 2 or Pre-Calc as Freshmen. When you look at the class offerings, kids who are taking Geometry at TJ will not have the same access to the specialized classes as the kids taking Algebra 2 or higher as freshmen.

3) More kids are being accepted from non-feeder schools, which mean more kids are arriving who don't know anyone at TJ or maybe knows one or two people. The kids coming from the feeder schools are more likely to know a few kids at TJ and feel a bit more comfortable at TJ. DS is going to be applying this year, he has participated in the Mouthcounts program at his MS. If accepted, he will know some of the kids at TJ from the program from last year and this year. Plus he will know some of the kids who were in Geometry with him. A kid coming from a non-feeder school that sends under their quota might feel isolated and lonely.

We have no clue what the grade distribution looks like or how many kids need remediation, the stories here are anecdotes. But I can easily see kids coming out of less competitive MS, who are taking Geometry, and who know fewer kids being overwhelmed at TJ, regardless or income or race or any of those factors.

There are 2 schools that admitted more than 25 students this year. Nobody it's walking into a sea of familiar faces. The problem isn't social. It's academic.

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Anonymous wrote:Isn’t this the class that was admitted with the new admissions to have less Asians?

Yes, and no. This class was admitted under the new system but has historically high Asian enrollment. In fact, the change helped low-income Asians mroe than any other group.

The class of 2025 admitted a significantly lower percent of Asian students and ALSO admitted a significantly higher percent of low income Asians with bonus points who were admitted over other Asian students who had higher grades or essay scores.

What is categories as “significant” here?. The Farms rate under new admissions is still very low only around 11%. Big majority TJ students is still from wealthy family.

It was 25% farm for the class of 2025.

Yes, but then it dropped to 10% because so many of the FARM kids got really bad grades and went back to their base schools much worse off than if they had never attended at all.

Cite, proof?

Wait, you know that a large number of FARM kids went back to their base school after freshman year but you want proof that they did so because of their bad grades? Are you stupid?

DP. There are a lot of reasons why someone may choose to leave TJ.

You are fabricating the narrative around the grades and the students being “worse off”.

But we all know that is exactly what happened. It's no secret which kids were struggling academically.

DP
Who is “we” in here? If it is you and your coalition it is not “we all”.
Also are you following around “Billy the poor” at TJ and know every single move they do and their grades?
TJ students could left freshmen year because of commute, other family circumstance, doesn’t like the environment and the teacher (doesn’t fit) and etc…

+1

PP is full of sht.

No. The PP is totally right. We aren't doing these unprepared kids any favors. A TJ diploma isn't enough of an advantage (or any advantage at all) over a FCPS diploma to justify this. You're not giving black kids or poor kids a boost. It's not like getting an ivy diploma that opens doors for you. ATJ diploma doesn't open a while lot of doors but that shitty GPA can close a few. It's just destructive virtue signaling.

Nah, I think is a false narrative being pushed by parents who are bitter they can't game admissions like the good old days of test buying.

You're not helping the argument.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Isn’t this the class that was admitted with the new admissions to have less Asians?

Yes, and no. This class was admitted under the new system but has historically high Asian enrollment. In fact, the change helped low-income Asians mroe than any other group.

The class of 2025 admitted a significantly lower percent of Asian students and ALSO admitted a significantly higher percent of low income Asians with bonus points who were admitted over other Asian students who had higher grades or essay scores.

What is categories as “significant” here?. The Farms rate under new admissions is still very low only around 11%. Big majority TJ students is still from wealthy family.

It was 25% farm for the class of 2025.

Yes, but then it dropped to 10% because so many of the FARM kids got really bad grades and went back to their base schools much worse off than if they had never attended at all.

Cite, proof?

Wait, you know that a large number of FARM kids went back to their base school after freshman year but you want proof that they did so because of their bad grades? Are you stupid?

DP. There are a lot of reasons why someone may choose to leave TJ.

You are fabricating the narrative around the grades and the students being “worse off”.

But we all know that is exactly what happened. It's no secret which kids were struggling academically.

DP
Who is “we” in here? If it is you and your coalition it is not “we all”.
Also are you following around “Billy the poor” at TJ and know every single move they do and their grades?
TJ students could left freshmen year because of commute, other family circumstance, doesn’t like the environment and the teacher (doesn’t fit) and etc…

+1

PP is full of sht.

No. The PP is totally right. We aren't doing these unprepared kids any favors. A TJ diploma isn't enough of an advantage (or any advantage at all) over a FCPS diploma to justify this. You're not giving black kids or poor kids a boost. It's not like getting an ivy diploma that opens doors for you. ATJ diploma doesn't open a while lot of doors but that shitty GPA can close a few. It's just destructive virtue signaling.

More assumptions about who is leaving and why.

Thanks for telling us, yet again, what you think about black and poor kids.

Disgusting.

Prove me wrong.

No, you’re the one making the claim based on your biased assumptions.

You back it up or STFU.

My claim is based on plain and observable facts. Everybody knows I'm right, even you.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Isn’t this the class that was admitted with the new admissions to have less Asians?

Yes, and no. This class was admitted under the new system but has historically high Asian enrollment. In fact, the change helped low-income Asians mroe than any other group.

The class of 2025 admitted a significantly lower percent of Asian students and ALSO admitted a significantly higher percent of low income Asians with bonus points who were admitted over other Asian students who had higher grades or essay scores.

What is categories as “significant” here?. The Farms rate under new admissions is still very low only around 11%. Big majority TJ students is still from wealthy family.

It was 25% farm for the class of 2025.

Yes, but then it dropped to 10% because so many of the FARM kids got really bad grades and went back to their base schools much worse off than if they had never attended at all.

Cite, proof?

Wait, you know that a large number of FARM kids went back to their base school after freshman year but you want proof that they did so because of their bad grades? Are you stupid?

DP. There are a lot of reasons why someone may choose to leave TJ.

You are fabricating the narrative around the grades and the students being “worse off”.

But we all know that is exactly what happened. It's no secret which kids were struggling academically.

DP
Who is “we” in here? If it is you and your coalition it is not “we all”.
Also are you following around “Billy the poor” at TJ and know every single move they do and their grades?
TJ students could left freshmen year because of commute, other family circumstance, doesn’t like the environment and the teacher (doesn’t fit) and etc…

+1

PP is full of sht.

No. The PP is totally right. We aren't doing these unprepared kids any favors. A TJ diploma isn't enough of an advantage (or any advantage at all) over a FCPS diploma to justify this. You're not giving black kids or poor kids a boost. It's not like getting an ivy diploma that opens doors for you. ATJ diploma doesn't open a while lot of doors but that shitty GPA can close a few. It's just destructive virtue signaling.

More assumptions about who is leaving and why.

Thanks for telling us, yet again, what you think about black and poor kids.

Disgusting.

If white kids and Asian kids were the ones getting a race based preference they would be the ones that are under-qualified.

Haven't you idiots learned your lesson yet, baseless accusations of racism don't work, especially when discussing affirmative action or other racial preferences.

There isn’t a race-based preference.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Isn’t this the class that was admitted with the new admissions to have less Asians?

Yes, and no. This class was admitted under the new system but has historically high Asian enrollment. In fact, the change helped low-income Asians mroe than any other group.

The class of 2025 admitted a significantly lower percent of Asian students and ALSO admitted a significantly higher percent of low income Asians with bonus points who were admitted over other Asian students who had higher grades or essay scores.

What is categories as “significant” here?. The Farms rate under new admissions is still very low only around 11%. Big majority TJ students is still from wealthy family.

It was 25% farm for the class of 2025.

Yes, but then it dropped to 10% because so many of the FARM kids got really bad grades and went back to their base schools much worse off than if they had never attended at all.

Cite, proof?

Wait, you know that a large number of FARM kids went back to their base school after freshman year but you want proof that they did so because of their bad grades? Are you stupid?

DP. There are a lot of reasons why someone may choose to leave TJ.

You are fabricating the narrative around the grades and the students being “worse off”.

But we all know that is exactly what happened. It's no secret which kids were struggling academically.

DP
Who is “we” in here? If it is you and your coalition it is not “we all”.
Also are you following around “Billy the poor” at TJ and know every single move they do and their grades?
TJ students could left freshmen year because of commute, other family circumstance, doesn’t like the environment and the teacher (doesn’t fit) and etc…

+1

PP is full of sht.

No. The PP is totally right. We aren't doing these unprepared kids any favors. A TJ diploma isn't enough of an advantage (or any advantage at all) over a FCPS diploma to justify this. You're not giving black kids or poor kids a boost. It's not like getting an ivy diploma that opens doors for you. ATJ diploma doesn't open a while lot of doors but that shitty GPA can close a few. It's just destructive virtue signaling.

More assumptions about who is leaving and why.

Thanks for telling us, yet again, what you think about black and poor kids.

Disgusting.

Prove me wrong.

No, you’re the one making the claim based on your biased assumptions.

You back it up or STFU.

My claim is based on plain and observable facts. Everybody knows I'm right, even you.

No, you’re full of biases and assumptions.

You have presented no facts.