+1. Just like any other TJ thread certain posters keep creating everyday, repeating meaningless arguments over and over. |
I would prefer to see a ranking of starting salaries before ranking any programs relative to each other. The free market is the arbiter of preference and relative rankings. |
You can't really compare Purdue to CMU like that. The most popular major at purdue is probably psychology or some other pre-bariata degree, at CMU it's probably something that results in a job. I have not found data on Purdue grad income by major. |
You all realize that a student who selected College X might have gotten into 10+ other schools, right? The destinations are in no way indicative of TJ admissions to colleges overall. |
Of course it's indicative of where they got in. Sure there are corner cases, but by and large it is pretty indicative of the best schools they got into. You don't have 20 kids that are going to GMU that got into VT but just couldn't afford it. And they certainly didn't get into Ivy+. |
You don’t know that. Kids apply for a variety of college, hoping to get in and get enough aid to attend. Maybe they get in but they don’t get the aid. Maybe they get i but their parents financial picture has changed and they can no longer afford it. Maybe they choose GMU for cost purposes and because they need to be around to help take care of siblings or a family business. Plenty of people realize that the prestige of the school is not the only reason to attend the school and have other criteria that they are looking at. The FARMs rate at TJ went up, so it makes sense that some kids would be looking for good colleges that are more affordable. The Ivies and other schools might not be affordable even with aid. You have to pay for books, housing, food, and other expenses. You can attend GMU and live at home. |
For any individual, there are all sorts of factors that can come into play but when dealing with large groups, the law of large numbers starts to kick in and kids will select a good option over a less good option. Perhaps there is a kid in there somewhere that picked GMU over VT but not many and there are NONE that picked GMU over any of the ivy+ schools. We lost a lot of kids going to top 20 schools and gained a lot of kids going to GMU. And we don't have as many poor kids as you think. We admitted 25% FARM but I doubt we have 15% in the graduating class. Many of them returned to their base school. Once again, GMU is a good school but it's less good than VT, UVA or ivy+ |
+1 DD is a rising TJ senior. Plenty of very good schools that she would have a decent shot at probably if we could ED full pay them. But that's not our situation. We're too "rich" to get financial aid but not rich enough that $100K a year feels fine to handle for college. So her list is focused strongly on schools that are known for being generous with merit (plus VA in-states of course but none of the top 3 are the size she's ideally seeking). |
If you cannot afford the Ivy and you don't want to rack up a ton f debt, you might choose GMU or VT or UVA. If you have family that you need to help, like watching siblings for working parents or helping with the family business, you might choose GMU. No one is saying that GMU is equal in prestige or quality to an Ivy or VT or UVA but there are reasons for smart kids who graduate from any school to choose that path over the Ivy. Plenty of people understand that you don't have to have a degree from an Ivy to do well in life. It would be great but there are kids who could attend that cannot for other reasons. |
Isn’t this the class that was admitted with the new admissions to have less Asians? |