TJ 2025 seniors destination

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Anonymous wrote:Isn’t this the class that was admitted with the new admissions to have less Asians?

Yes, and no. This class was admitted under the new system but has historically high Asian enrollment. In fact, the change helped low-income Asians mroe than any other group.

The class of 2025 admitted a significantly lower percent of Asian students and ALSO admitted a significantly higher percent of low income Asians with bonus points who were admitted over other Asian students who had higher grades or essay scores.

What is categories as “significant” here?. The Farms rate under new admissions is still very low only around 11%. Big majority TJ students is still from wealthy family.

It was 25% farm for the class of 2025.

Yes, but then it dropped to 10% because so many of the FARM kids got really bad grades and went back to their base schools much worse off than if they had never attended at all.

Cite, proof?

Wait, you know that a large number of FARM kids went back to their base school after freshman year but you want proof that they did so because of their bad grades? Are you stupid?

DP. There are a lot of reasons why someone may choose to leave TJ.

You are fabricating the narrative around the grades and the students being “worse off”.

But we all know that is exactly what happened. It's no secret which kids were struggling academically.

No, you don’t know. You are making assumptions based on your biases.

Of course we know this. It was plain and obvious. It is a bit better now that they are taking 10% farm instead of 25% farm. But the class of 2025 was a disaster with 25% farm. You can only push the rope so much before shit falls apart.

No, you have zero data supporting your comments.

I haven't conducted a scientific study but it's common knowledge.

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Anonymous wrote:Isn’t this the class that was admitted with the new admissions to have less Asians?

Yes, and no. This class was admitted under the new system but has historically high Asian enrollment. In fact, the change helped low-income Asians mroe than any other group.

The class of 2025 admitted a significantly lower percent of Asian students and ALSO admitted a significantly higher percent of low income Asians with bonus points who were admitted over other Asian students who had higher grades or essay scores.

What is categories as “significant” here?. The Farms rate under new admissions is still very low only around 11%. Big majority TJ students is still from wealthy family.

Going from 0.1% to 11% is a 110x increase.

Seems significant to me.

It went from 2% to 11%. Still significant but I don't know where you are getting 0.1% from.

And frankly a lot of those kids are struggling.

Oops. I mistyped and then absent-mindedly calculated off of that.

It was 0.62% ED for the admitted class of 2024. It was >10% for class of 2029. That would be a >1600% increase in admitted students.

As for enrollment, it went from 2.05% ED in 2020-21 to 16.82% for 2024-25. That’s a 820% increase.

You are assuming that “those kids” are struggling.

It's not an assumption. The class of 2025 had 25% farm. That was too big a preference. They've scaled it back 10 closer to 10-15% but we are still selecting for an academically competitive program using something other than academic ability. The kids picked based on non academic criteria are more likely to struggle and the greater the preference, the greater the struggle.

No, you have zero facts to back this up. You are making assumptions.

The power of observation will have to suffice until FCPS is willing to release that sort of data.

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Anonymous wrote:Isn’t this the class that was admitted with the new admissions to have less Asians?

Yes, and no. This class was admitted under the new system but has historically high Asian enrollment. In fact, the change helped low-income Asians mroe than any other group.

The class of 2025 admitted a significantly lower percent of Asian students and ALSO admitted a significantly higher percent of low income Asians with bonus points who were admitted over other Asian students who had higher grades or essay scores.

What is categories as “significant” here?. The Farms rate under new admissions is still very low only around 11%. Big majority TJ students is still from wealthy family.

It was 25% farm for the class of 2025.

Yes, but then it dropped to 10% because so many of the FARM kids got really bad grades and went back to their base schools much worse off than if they had never attended at all.

Cite, proof?

Wait, you know that a large number of FARM kids went back to their base school after freshman year but you want proof that they did so because of their bad grades? Are you stupid?

DP. There are a lot of reasons why someone may choose to leave TJ.

You are fabricating the narrative around the grades and the students being “worse off”.

But we all know that is exactly what happened. It's no secret which kids were struggling academically.

DP
Who is “we” in here? If it is you and your coalition it is not “we all”.
Also are you following around “Billy the poor” at TJ and know every single move they do and their grades?
TJ students could left freshmen year because of commute, other family circumstance, doesn’t like the environment and the teacher (doesn’t fit) and etc…

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Anonymous wrote:Isn’t this the class that was admitted with the new admissions to have less Asians?

Yes, and no. This class was admitted under the new system but has historically high Asian enrollment. In fact, the change helped low-income Asians mroe than any other group.

The class of 2025 admitted a significantly lower percent of Asian students and ALSO admitted a significantly higher percent of low income Asians with bonus points who were admitted over other Asian students who had higher grades or essay scores.

What is categories as “significant” here?. The Farms rate under new admissions is still very low only around 11%. Big majority TJ students is still from wealthy family.

Going from 0.1% to 11% is a 110x increase.

Seems significant to me.

It went from 2% to 11%. Still significant but I don't know where you are getting 0.1% from.

And frankly a lot of those kids are struggling.

Oops. I mistyped and then absent-mindedly calculated off of that.

It was 0.62% ED for the admitted class of 2024. It was >10% for class of 2029. That would be a >1600% increase in admitted students.

As for enrollment, it went from 2.05% ED in 2020-21 to 16.82% for 2024-25. That’s a 820% increase.

You are assuming that “those kids” are struggling.

It's not an assumption. The class of 2025 had 25% farm. That was too big a preference. They've scaled it back 10 closer to 10-15% but we are still selecting for an academically competitive program using something other than academic ability. The kids picked based on non academic criteria are more likely to struggle and the greater the preference, the greater the struggle.

No, you have zero facts to back this up. You are making assumptions.

The power of observation will have to suffice until FCPS is willing to release that sort of data.

Do you want data who left TJ as freshmen and the reason, and their grade, their address, their race, their wealth too?

Why would FCPS willing to release that sort of data?

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Anonymous wrote:Isn’t this the class that was admitted with the new admissions to have less Asians?

Yes, and no. This class was admitted under the new system but has historically high Asian enrollment. In fact, the change helped low-income Asians mroe than any other group.

The class of 2025 admitted a significantly lower percent of Asian students and ALSO admitted a significantly higher percent of low income Asians with bonus points who were admitted over other Asian students who had higher grades or essay scores.

What is categories as “significant” here?. The Farms rate under new admissions is still very low only around 11%. Big majority TJ students is still from wealthy family.

It was 25% farm for the class of 2025.

Yes, but then it dropped to 10% because so many of the FARM kids got really bad grades and went back to their base schools much worse off than if they had never attended at all.

Cite, proof?

Wait, you know that a large number of FARM kids went back to their base school after freshman year but you want proof that they did so because of their bad grades? Are you stupid?

DP. There are a lot of reasons why someone may choose to leave TJ.

You are fabricating the narrative around the grades and the students being “worse off”.

But we all know that is exactly what happened. It's no secret which kids were struggling academically.

DP
Who is “we” in here? If it is you and your coalition it is not “we all”.
Also are you following around “Billy the poor” at TJ and know every single move they do and their grades?
TJ students could left freshmen year because of commute, other family circumstance, doesn’t like the environment and the teacher (doesn’t fit) and etc…

Are you under the impression that the kids getting large admissions preferences are doing anywhere nearly as will as the ones that are not getting preferences? That's not the way reality works. Preferences in selection that are not related to competency results in less competent admits.

Loudon county is a long commute, coming from a different part of eastern Fairfax is not. They're leaving because they should never have been admitted. They're smart but that doesn't make up for a lifetime of poor education. Only a genius could catch up and they're not screening for geniuses.

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Anonymous wrote:Isn’t this the class that was admitted with the new admissions to have less Asians?

Yes, and no. This class was admitted under the new system but has historically high Asian enrollment. In fact, the change helped low-income Asians mroe than any other group.

The class of 2025 admitted a significantly lower percent of Asian students and ALSO admitted a significantly higher percent of low income Asians with bonus points who were admitted over other Asian students who had higher grades or essay scores.

What is categories as “significant” here?. The Farms rate under new admissions is still very low only around 11%. Big majority TJ students is still from wealthy family.

Going from 0.1% to 11% is a 110x increase.

Seems significant to me.

It went from 2% to 11%. Still significant but I don't know where you are getting 0.1% from.

And frankly a lot of those kids are struggling.

Oops. I mistyped and then absent-mindedly calculated off of that.

It was 0.62% ED for the admitted class of 2024. It was >10% for class of 2029. That would be a >1600% increase in admitted students.

As for enrollment, it went from 2.05% ED in 2020-21 to 16.82% for 2024-25. That’s a 820% increase.

You are assuming that “those kids” are struggling.

It's not an assumption. The class of 2025 had 25% farm. That was too big a preference. They've scaled it back 10 closer to 10-15% but we are still selecting for an academically competitive program using something other than academic ability. The kids picked based on non academic criteria are more likely to struggle and the greater the preference, the greater the struggle.

No, you have zero facts to back this up. You are making assumptions.

The power of observation will have to suffice until FCPS is willing to release that sort of data.

Do you want data who left TJ as freshmen and the reason, and their grade, their address, their race, their wealth too?

Why would FCPS willing to release that sort of data?

They won't. That's the reason the people on your side keeps asking for cites and data. They think the lack of data means it's just asv likely that the will prepped kids are the ones that are returning to their base schools. They're not.

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Anonymous wrote:Isn’t this the class that was admitted with the new admissions to have less Asians?

Yes, and no. This class was admitted under the new system but has historically high Asian enrollment. In fact, the change helped low-income Asians mroe than any other group.

The class of 2025 admitted a significantly lower percent of Asian students and ALSO admitted a significantly higher percent of low income Asians with bonus points who were admitted over other Asian students who had higher grades or essay scores.

What is categories as “significant” here?. The Farms rate under new admissions is still very low only around 11%. Big majority TJ students is still from wealthy family.

It was 25% farm for the class of 2025.

Yes, but then it dropped to 10% because so many of the FARM kids got really bad grades and went back to their base schools much worse off than if they had never attended at all.

Cite, proof?

Wait, you know that a large number of FARM kids went back to their base school after freshman year but you want proof that they did so because of their bad grades? Are you stupid?

DP. There are a lot of reasons why someone may choose to leave TJ.

You are fabricating the narrative around the grades and the students being “worse off”.

But we all know that is exactly what happened. It's no secret which kids were struggling academically.

DP
Who is “we” in here? If it is you and your coalition it is not “we all”.
Also are you following around “Billy the poor” at TJ and know every single move they do and their grades?
TJ students could left freshmen year because of commute, other family circumstance, doesn’t like the environment and the teacher (doesn’t fit) and etc…

+1

PP is full of sht.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Isn’t this the class that was admitted with the new admissions to have less Asians?

Yes, and no. This class was admitted under the new system but has historically high Asian enrollment. In fact, the change helped low-income Asians mroe than any other group.

The class of 2025 admitted a significantly lower percent of Asian students and ALSO admitted a significantly higher percent of low income Asians with bonus points who were admitted over other Asian students who had higher grades or essay scores.

What is categories as “significant” here?. The Farms rate under new admissions is still very low only around 11%. Big majority TJ students is still from wealthy family.

It was 25% farm for the class of 2025.

Yes, but then it dropped to 10% because so many of the FARM kids got really bad grades and went back to their base schools much worse off than if they had never attended at all.

Cite, proof?

Wait, you know that a large number of FARM kids went back to their base school after freshman year but you want proof that they did so because of their bad grades? Are you stupid?

DP. There are a lot of reasons why someone may choose to leave TJ.

You are fabricating the narrative around the grades and the students being “worse off”.

But we all know that is exactly what happened. It's no secret which kids were struggling academically.

DP
Who is “we” in here? If it is you and your coalition it is not “we all”.
Also are you following around “Billy the poor” at TJ and know every single move they do and their grades?
TJ students could left freshmen year because of commute, other family circumstance, doesn’t like the environment and the teacher (doesn’t fit) and etc…

+1

PP is full of sht.

No. The PP is totally right. We aren't doing these unprepared kids any favors. A TJ diploma isn't enough of an advantage (or any advantage at all) over a FCPS diploma to justify this. You're not giving black kids or poor kids a boost. It's not like getting an ivy diploma that opens doors for you. ATJ diploma doesn't open a while lot of doors but that shitty GPA can close a few. It's just destructive virtue signaling.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Isn’t this the class that was admitted with the new admissions to have less Asians?

Yes, and no. This class was admitted under the new system but has historically high Asian enrollment. In fact, the change helped low-income Asians mroe than any other group.

The class of 2025 admitted a significantly lower percent of Asian students and ALSO admitted a significantly higher percent of low income Asians with bonus points who were admitted over other Asian students who had higher grades or essay scores.

What is categories as “significant” here?. The Farms rate under new admissions is still very low only around 11%. Big majority TJ students is still from wealthy family.

It was 25% farm for the class of 2025.

Yes, but then it dropped to 10% because so many of the FARM kids got really bad grades and went back to their base schools much worse off than if they had never attended at all.

Cite, proof?

Wait, you know that a large number of FARM kids went back to their base school after freshman year but you want proof that they did so because of their bad grades? Are you stupid?

DP. There are a lot of reasons why someone may choose to leave TJ.

You are fabricating the narrative around the grades and the students being “worse off”.

But we all know that is exactly what happened. It's no secret which kids were struggling academically.

DP
Who is “we” in here? If it is you and your coalition it is not “we all”.
Also are you following around “Billy the poor” at TJ and know every single move they do and their grades?
TJ students could left freshmen year because of commute, other family circumstance, doesn’t like the environment and the teacher (doesn’t fit) and etc…

+1

PP is full of sht.

No. The PP is totally right. We aren't doing these unprepared kids any favors. A TJ diploma isn't enough of an advantage (or any advantage at all) over a FCPS diploma to justify this. You're not giving black kids or poor kids a boost. It's not like getting an ivy diploma that opens doors for you. ATJ diploma doesn't open a while lot of doors but that shitty GPA can close a few. It's just destructive virtue signaling.

You miss the point. The point is the favors shall continue to be given beyond TJ and all the way up to college, without preparing the unprepared kids. That is justice that needs no justification. Besides, how dare you call them unprepared kids and their GPA shitty?! It's all because they're not wealthy enough to buy the question bank.

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Anonymous wrote:Isn’t this the class that was admitted with the new admissions to have less Asians?

Yes, and no. This class was admitted under the new system but has historically high Asian enrollment. In fact, the change helped low-income Asians mroe than any other group.

The class of 2025 admitted a significantly lower percent of Asian students and ALSO admitted a significantly higher percent of low income Asians with bonus points who were admitted over other Asian students who had higher grades or essay scores.

What is categories as “significant” here?. The Farms rate under new admissions is still very low only around 11%. Big majority TJ students is still from wealthy family.

It was 25% farm for the class of 2025.

Yes, but then it dropped to 10% because so many of the FARM kids got really bad grades and went back to their base schools much worse off than if they had never attended at all.

Cite, proof?

Wait, you know that a large number of FARM kids went back to their base school after freshman year but you want proof that they did so because of their bad grades? Are you stupid?

DP. There are a lot of reasons why someone may choose to leave TJ.

You are fabricating the narrative around the grades and the students being “worse off”.

But we all know that is exactly what happened. It's no secret which kids were struggling academically.

DP
Who is “we” in here? If it is you and your coalition it is not “we all”.
Also are you following around “Billy the poor” at TJ and know every single move they do and their grades?
TJ students could left freshmen year because of commute, other family circumstance, doesn’t like the environment and the teacher (doesn’t fit) and etc…

+1

PP is full of sht.

No. The PP is totally right. We aren't doing these unprepared kids any favors. A TJ diploma isn't enough of an advantage (or any advantage at all) over a FCPS diploma to justify this. You're not giving black kids or poor kids a boost. It's not like getting an ivy diploma that opens doors for you. ATJ diploma doesn't open a while lot of doors but that shitty GPA can close a few. It's just destructive virtue signaling.

More assumptions about who is leaving and why.

Thanks for telling us, yet again, what you think about black and poor kids.

Disgusting.

[Anonymous]

We don't have the data so we don't know.

What we do know,

1) Kids have always left TJ. Some because of grades, some because of the commute, some because of fit.

2) It appears that more kids are leaving TJ after the change in admissions.

My thought is that TJ is a highly competitive school. There are plenty of smart kids who take Algebra 1 in 8th grade, but those kids might find them feeling isolated because most of the students at TJ will be taking Algebra 2 or Pre-Calc as Freshmen. When you look at the class offerings, kids who are taking Geometry at TJ will not have the same access to the specialized classes as the kids taking Algebra 2 or higher as freshmen.

3) More kids are being accepted from non-feeder schools, which mean more kids are arriving who don't know anyone at TJ or maybe knows one or two people. The kids coming from the feeder schools are more likely to know a few kids at TJ and feel a bit more comfortable at TJ. DS is going to be applying this year, he has participated in the Mouthcounts program at his MS. If accepted, he will know some of the kids at TJ from the program from last year and this year. Plus he will know some of the kids who were in Geometry with him. A kid coming from a non-feeder school that sends under their quota might feel isolated and lonely.

We have no clue what the grade distribution looks like or how many kids need remediation, the stories here are anecdotes. But I can easily see kids coming out of less competitive MS, who are taking Geometry, and who know fewer kids being overwhelmed at TJ, regardless or income or race or any of those factors.

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Anonymous wrote:Isn’t this the class that was admitted with the new admissions to have less Asians?

Yes, and no. This class was admitted under the new system but has historically high Asian enrollment. In fact, the change helped low-income Asians mroe than any other group.

The class of 2025 admitted a significantly lower percent of Asian students and ALSO admitted a significantly higher percent of low income Asians with bonus points who were admitted over other Asian students who had higher grades or essay scores.

What is categories as “significant” here?. The Farms rate under new admissions is still very low only around 11%. Big majority TJ students is still from wealthy family.

It was 25% farm for the class of 2025.

Yes, but then it dropped to 10% because so many of the FARM kids got really bad grades and went back to their base schools much worse off than if they had never attended at all.

Cite, proof?

Wait, you know that a large number of FARM kids went back to their base school after freshman year but you want proof that they did so because of their bad grades? Are you stupid?

DP. There are a lot of reasons why someone may choose to leave TJ.

You are fabricating the narrative around the grades and the students being “worse off”.

But we all know that is exactly what happened. It's no secret which kids were struggling academically.

DP
Who is “we” in here? If it is you and your coalition it is not “we all”.
Also are you following around “Billy the poor” at TJ and know every single move they do and their grades?
TJ students could left freshmen year because of commute, other family circumstance, doesn’t like the environment and the teacher (doesn’t fit) and etc…

+1

PP is full of sht.

No. The PP is totally right. We aren't doing these unprepared kids any favors. A TJ diploma isn't enough of an advantage (or any advantage at all) over a FCPS diploma to justify this. You're not giving black kids or poor kids a boost. It's not like getting an ivy diploma that opens doors for you. ATJ diploma doesn't open a while lot of doors but that shitty GPA can close a few. It's just destructive virtue signaling.

Nah, I think is a false narrative being pushed by parents who are bitter they can't game admissions like the good old days of test buying.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We don't have the data so we don't know.

What we do know,

1) Kids have always left TJ. Some because of grades, some because of the commute, some because of fit.

2) It appears that more kids are leaving TJ after the change in admissions.

My thought is that TJ is a highly competitive school. There are plenty of smart kids who take Algebra 1 in 8th grade, but those kids might find them feeling isolated because most of the students at TJ will be taking Algebra 2 or Pre-Calc as Freshmen. When you look at the class offerings, kids who are taking Geometry at TJ will not have the same access to the specialized classes as the kids taking Algebra 2 or higher as freshmen.

3) More kids are being accepted from non-feeder schools, which mean more kids are arriving who don't know anyone at TJ or maybe knows one or two people. The kids coming from the feeder schools are more likely to know a few kids at TJ and feel a bit more comfortable at TJ. DS is going to be applying this year, he has participated in the Mouthcounts program at his MS. If accepted, he will know some of the kids at TJ from the program from last year and this year. Plus he will know some of the kids who were in Geometry with him. A kid coming from a non-feeder school that sends under their quota might feel isolated and lonely.

We have no clue what the grade distribution looks like or how many kids need remediation, the stories here are anecdotes. But I can easily see kids coming out of less competitive MS, who are taking Geometry, and who know fewer kids being overwhelmed at TJ, regardless or income or race or any of those factors.

Data to back that up?

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Anonymous wrote:Isn’t this the class that was admitted with the new admissions to have less Asians?

Yes, and no. This class was admitted under the new system but has historically high Asian enrollment. In fact, the change helped low-income Asians mroe than any other group.

The class of 2025 admitted a significantly lower percent of Asian students and ALSO admitted a significantly higher percent of low income Asians with bonus points who were admitted over other Asian students who had higher grades or essay scores.

What is categories as “significant” here?. The Farms rate under new admissions is still very low only around 11%. Big majority TJ students is still from wealthy family.

It was 25% farm for the class of 2025.

Yes, but then it dropped to 10% because so many of the FARM kids got really bad grades and went back to their base schools much worse off than if they had never attended at all.

Cite, proof?

Wait, you know that a large number of FARM kids went back to their base school after freshman year but you want proof that they did so because of their bad grades? Are you stupid?

DP. There are a lot of reasons why someone may choose to leave TJ.

You are fabricating the narrative around the grades and the students being “worse off”.

But we all know that is exactly what happened. It's no secret which kids were struggling academically.

DP
Who is “we” in here? If it is you and your coalition it is not “we all”.
Also are you following around “Billy the poor” at TJ and know every single move they do and their grades?
TJ students could left freshmen year because of commute, other family circumstance, doesn’t like the environment and the teacher (doesn’t fit) and etc…

+1

PP is full of sht.

No. The PP is totally right. We aren't doing these unprepared kids any favors. A TJ diploma isn't enough of an advantage (or any advantage at all) over a FCPS diploma to justify this. You're not giving black kids or poor kids a boost. It's not like getting an ivy diploma that opens doors for you. ATJ diploma doesn't open a while lot of doors but that shitty GPA can close a few. It's just destructive virtue signaling.

More assumptions about who is leaving and why.

Thanks for telling us, yet again, what you think about black and poor kids.

Disgusting.

Prove me wrong.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Isn’t this the class that was admitted with the new admissions to have less Asians?

Yes, and no. This class was admitted under the new system but has historically high Asian enrollment. In fact, the change helped low-income Asians mroe than any other group.

The class of 2025 admitted a significantly lower percent of Asian students and ALSO admitted a significantly higher percent of low income Asians with bonus points who were admitted over other Asian students who had higher grades or essay scores.

What is categories as “significant” here?. The Farms rate under new admissions is still very low only around 11%. Big majority TJ students is still from wealthy family.

It was 25% farm for the class of 2025.

Yes, but then it dropped to 10% because so many of the FARM kids got really bad grades and went back to their base schools much worse off than if they had never attended at all.

Cite, proof?

Wait, you know that a large number of FARM kids went back to their base school after freshman year but you want proof that they did so because of their bad grades? Are you stupid?

DP. There are a lot of reasons why someone may choose to leave TJ.

You are fabricating the narrative around the grades and the students being “worse off”.

But we all know that is exactly what happened. It's no secret which kids were struggling academically.

DP
Who is “we” in here? If it is you and your coalition it is not “we all”.
Also are you following around “Billy the poor” at TJ and know every single move they do and their grades?
TJ students could left freshmen year because of commute, other family circumstance, doesn’t like the environment and the teacher (doesn’t fit) and etc…

+1

PP is full of sht.

No. The PP is totally right. We aren't doing these unprepared kids any favors. A TJ diploma isn't enough of an advantage (or any advantage at all) over a FCPS diploma to justify this. You're not giving black kids or poor kids a boost. It's not like getting an ivy diploma that opens doors for you. ATJ diploma doesn't open a while lot of doors but that shitty GPA can close a few. It's just destructive virtue signaling.

More assumptions about who is leaving and why.

Thanks for telling us, yet again, what you think about black and poor kids.

Disgusting.

Prove me wrong.

No, you’re the one making the claim based on your biased assumptions.

You back it up or STFU.