TJ 2025 seniors destination

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:data wise, seems less than 250 students in the graph, that's less than half of graduating class. But still interesting data to look at.

It would be good to know what %ge of the T20 is missing vs. the rest. I would think 20:80 % ratio (T20 vs Others) for the remaining 250+ would be a good guesstimate knowing most of the T20 admits are the same students and they only get to select one of the many T20s they get admitted in

It won't affect you so why do you care?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:data wise, seems less than 250 students in the graph, that's less than half of graduating class. But still interesting data to look at.

It would be good to know what %ge of the T20 is missing vs. the rest. I would think 20:80 % ratio (T20 vs Others) for the remaining 250+ would be a good guesstimate knowing most of the T20 admits are the same students and they only get to select one of the many T20s they get admitted in

It won't affect you so why do you care?

DP

Why do you care that people are talking about this?
5 years ago FCPS changed the admissions criteria to admit a more racially diverse freshman class and abandoned standardized testing, recommendations and relaxed the math requirement.
That class is starting college this year and it seems pretty clear that there are not nearly as many kids going to top colleges (the kind that fully funds financial need) as there used to be.
The only reason you don't want people to talk about this is so that they are not reminded how the effort to achieve racial diversity came at a significant cost.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:data wise, seems less than 250 students in the graph, that's less than half of graduating class. But still interesting data to look at.

It would be good to know what %ge of the T20 is missing vs. the rest. I would think 20:80 % ratio (T20 vs Others) for the remaining 250+ would be a good guesstimate knowing most of the T20 admits are the same students and they only get to select one of the many T20s they get admitted in

It won't affect you so why do you care?

DP
Medicaid cuts won't affect me either but I still care. It's bad policy, ideologically driven policy is frequently bad.

[Anonymous]

Purdue Engineering is waaaay better and more reputed by employers compared to UVA, VT or even UMD.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Purdue Engineering is waaaay better and more reputed by employers compared to UVA, VT or even UMD.

Agreed. Purdue is a top 5 engineering school. It’s better than anything that even the Ivy League can offer. Y’all are pretty clueless.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Purdue Engineering is waaaay better and more reputed by employers compared to UVA, VT or even UMD.

Agreed. Purdue is a top 5 engineering school. It’s better than anything that even the Ivy League can offer. Y’all are pretty clueless.

You're getting a little carried away

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:data wise, seems less than 250 students in the graph, that's less than half of graduating class. But still interesting data to look at.

It would be good to know what %ge of the T20 is missing vs. the rest. I would think 20:80 % ratio (T20 vs Others) for the remaining 250+ would be a good guesstimate knowing most of the T20 admits are the same students and they only get to select one of the many T20s they get admitted in

It won't affect you so why do you care?

DP

Why do you care that people are talking about this?
5 years ago FCPS changed the admissions criteria to admit a more racially diverse freshman class and abandoned standardized testing, recommendations and relaxed the math requirement.
That class is starting college this year and it seems pretty clear that there are not nearly as many kids going to top colleges (the kind that fully funds financial need) as there used to be.
The only reason you don't want people to talk about this is so that they are not reminded how the effort to achieve racial diversity came at a significant cost.

Before the admissions change we had <1% of the class from economically-disadvantaged families. It was ridiculous that kids who didn’t attend one of the wealthy feeder schools had almost no chance of being admitted. It had to change.

We don’t have the full matriculation data. You are guessing on patterns.

Only a limited number of top colleges fully fund financial aid. Cost is much of a factor for TJ grads.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:data wise, seems less than 250 students in the graph, that's less than half of graduating class. But still interesting data to look at.

It would be good to know what %ge of the T20 is missing vs. the rest. I would think 20:80 % ratio (T20 vs Others) for the remaining 250+ would be a good guesstimate knowing most of the T20 admits are the same students and they only get to select one of the many T20s they get admitted in

It won't affect you so why do you care?

Some people like to push political wedge issues.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The colleges are no longer taking the best students. So you can take college admissions with a grain of salt and don't hold it against TJ students.

In no way would read any admissions against students. To me is reference point only for what happening then at other schools. Would expect more taking advantage of community college and possible transfer or keeping instate for in state tuition. I was surprised more weren’t going to MIT though and wonder if Purdue for example is better about giving $/aid to get more TJ to attend. Isn’t the original principal of TJ at stem school in Illinois now? Maybe it’s that Illinois knows what TJ means more than other states bc of that. And maybe are more at the schools as other poster called out not all graduates listed.

Purdue is an insane bargain. It costs less to go out of state to there than the in state price for the top VA universities.

Most of them would go to the VA top universities if they could get it. It is harder to get to VA top universities from TJ even for smarter kids

Purdue is much better than UVA for engineering. Purdue is a top 10 program. UVA is no where near that. Purdue is better than VT, but people in VA don’t seem to think so.

Purdue does fund more national merit scholarships, so a solid choice if money is a factor.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Purdue Engineering is waaaay better and more reputed by employers compared to UVA, VT or even UMD.

Agreed. Purdue is a top 5 engineering school. It’s better than anything that even the Ivy League can offer. Y’all are pretty clueless.

You're getting a little carried away

US news ranks Purdue 5th for graduate engineering programs and 8th for undergraduate, tied with Carnegie Mellon and ahead of the highest Ivy League undergraduate program, which is Cornell

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Purdue Engineering is waaaay better and more reputed by employers compared to UVA, VT or even UMD.

Agreed. Purdue is a top 5 engineering school. It’s better than anything that even the Ivy League can offer. Y’all are pretty clueless.

You're getting a little carried away

US news ranks Purdue 5th for graduate engineering programs and 8th for undergraduate, tied with Carnegie Mellon and ahead of the highest Ivy League undergraduate program, which is Cornell

Which engineering graduates get paid more? Cornell or Purdue?

[Anonymous]

It would be interesting to understand which college/school a student is matriculating to within a given broad university.

Purely as an example, VPI for Engineering is a completely different admissions animal than VPI to study humanities. Similarly, UMCP for engineering or CS is different than UMCP for pre-med.

[Anonymous]

God this is a stupid thread. A bunch of know nothings with axes to grind are now seriously trying to argue that Purdue’s STEM programs are shitty.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:data wise, seems less than 250 students in the graph, that's less than half of graduating class. But still interesting data to look at.

It would be good to know what %ge of the T20 is missing vs. the rest. I would think 20:80 % ratio (T20 vs Others) for the remaining 250+ would be a good guesstimate knowing most of the T20 admits are the same students and they only get to select one of the many T20s they get admitted in

It won't affect you so why do you care?

DP

Why do you care that people are talking about this?
5 years ago FCPS changed the admissions criteria to admit a more racially diverse freshman class and abandoned standardized testing, recommendations and relaxed the math requirement.
That class is starting college this year and it seems pretty clear that there are not nearly as many kids going to top colleges (the kind that fully funds financial need) as there used to be.
The only reason you don't want people to talk about this is so that they are not reminded how the effort to achieve racial diversity came at a significant cost.

Before the admissions change we had <1% of the class from economically-disadvantaged families. It was ridiculous that kids who didn’t attend one of the wealthy feeder schools had almost no chance of being admitted. It had to change.

We don’t have the full matriculation data. You are guessing on patterns.

Only a limited number of top colleges fully fund financial aid. Cost is much of a factor for TJ grads.

You don't have to abandon merit to achieve economic diversity. You are legally allowed to explicitly favor poor kids. You only have to engage in these shenanigans to achieve diversity with a protected class like race. And racial diversity was the state purpose of these changes.

Pretty much the entire ivy+ fully funds financial need.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:God this is a stupid thread. A bunch of know nothings with axes to grind are now seriously trying to argue that Purdue’s STEM programs are shitty.

Who said Purdue engineering is shitty? It's not sorry but you're getting carried away.

The claim was that Purdue was waaaay better than any VA school and better than any Ivy.

Purdue is better than any VA school but not Waaaay better than VT. And most applicants would pick Cornell engineering over Purdue.

As for comparisons with Carnegie Mellon? ROFLMAO, I didn't care what USNWR says about their relative rank. In computer, electrical and mechanical, CMU is stronger. I'm not sure how they are tied unless you put a lot of weight on things like civil and industrial.