If your child was TO or below 1400 on the SAT, how are they doing in college?

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Anonymous wrote:The biggest BS is 'my kid is not good at taking tests (while academically great)'.

WTF how the F the kid handles all the tests, exams, midterms, finals, etc. in a college

I don’t get this either. Am I the only one that can admit when my kid isn’t the smartest and can be lazy?

No, I commented on an earlier page and I am with you. My kids are fairly smart but also a bit lazy. This is hard for me to deal with, but I'm trying to let life teach them their lessons. (Or just guide them to paths where they will be happy and successful.)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The biggest BS is 'my kid is not good at taking tests (while academically great)'.

WTF how the F the kid handles all the tests, exams, midterms, finals, etc. in a college

I solve hard problems at work and never once have I needed to do it by myself in a 3 hour sitting, except in an interview situation.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The biggest BS is 'my kid is not good at taking tests (while academically great)'.

WTF how the F the kid handles all the tests, exams, midterms, finals, etc. in a college

I don’t get this either. Am I the only one that can admit when my kid isn’t the smartest and can be lazy?

No, I commented on an earlier page and I am with you. My kids are fairly smart but also a bit lazy. This is hard for me to deal with, but I'm trying to let life teach them their lessons. (Or just guide them to paths where they will be happy and successful.)

That was my post and it’s worse when they are smart as you see the potential. Mine did amazing on SAT though, the laziness comes out in school grades.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The biggest BS is 'my kid is not good at taking tests (while academically great)'.

WTF how the F the kid handles all the tests, exams, midterms, finals, etc. in a college

I don’t get this either. Am I the only one that can admit when my kid isn’t the smartest and can be lazy?

So a smart lazy (or distractable and undisciplined who misdirects effort) kid can ace the tests and get A's in school, while being bad at doing sustained difficult work that matters. Meanwhile a less smart kid who is disciplined and diligent (and maybe more socially skillled) achieve a lot more.

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Anonymous wrote:The biggest BS is 'my kid is not good at taking tests (while academically great)'.

WTF how the F the kid handles all the tests, exams, midterms, finals, etc. in a college

I didn’t realize all the exams in college were timed multiple choice tests on subjects they learned three years ago.

Exams in colleges are timed for the most part. Your kid is only capable of short term memory? and you expect your kid to do well on short answers or essay questions while can't even handle multiple choices?
Get the F outta here.

My kid is at an Ivy and they were telling all semester that orgo was a race against the clock. He won, as he could visualize and was able to skip steps. Many others were down to the wire or couldn’t finish. Absolutely a race against the clock in many classes.

"SAT is good because college professors are idiots" isn't a winning argument. (My Ivy orgo wasn't like that at all. No time pressure, just questios about knowledge and understanding.)

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Anonymous wrote:The unwashed masses of Ohio State with over 40,000 students and their freshman class test submitting rate is 20% for SAT and 60% for ACT. Yuck. Who knew absolute dunces were walking amongst us. /s

And any large state school that everyone touts. Even the Southern ones that have the least educated populations. They all must be dummies because of TO.

Sounds silly, right?

Not dummies necessarily, but almost certainly less academically qualified than students submitting test scores.

Submitting scores often just indicates your parents have the funds to spend on multiple tests and professional test prep.

Why do kids with higher test scores perform much better in college than kids who don't submit test scores then? Why does study after study find this?

Out of curiosity, can you share the links to these studies?

Here's one.

https://opportunityinsights.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/SAT_ACT_on_Grades.pdf

Suddenly studies are bogus and there is no objective reality though, right?

Proud 1580 C student checking in, ma'am!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The biggest BS is 'my kid is not good at taking tests (while academically great)'.

WTF how the F the kid handles all the tests, exams, midterms, finals, etc. in a college

I solve hard problems at work and never once have I needed to do it by myself in a 3 hour sitting, except in an interview situation.

But that's how a lot of prestigious companies do interviews, and how they weed out people.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The unwashed masses of Ohio State with over 40,000 students and their freshman class test submitting rate is 20% for SAT and 60% for ACT. Yuck. Who knew absolute dunces were walking amongst us. /s

And any large state school that everyone touts. Even the Southern ones that have the least educated populations. They all must be dummies because of TO.

Sounds silly, right?

Not dummies necessarily, but almost certainly less academically qualified than students submitting test scores.

Submitting scores often just indicates your parents have the funds to spend on multiple tests and professional test prep.

Why do kids with higher test scores perform much better in college than kids who don't submit test scores then? Why does study after study find this?

Out of curiosity, can you share the links to these studies?

Here's one.

https://opportunityinsights.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/SAT_ACT_on_Grades.pdf

Suddenly studies are bogus and there is no objective reality though, right?

Proud 1580 C student checking in, ma'am!

Wow, that study is striking. Yes, test scores are the best predictor.

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Dunno. Mine has an IQ greater than the 99th%ile, but his test scores were not. He's also a bit lazy. So he figures out the lowest grades he can get to get the outcome he wants and works to that. He didn't care much about test scores, but he's doing very well.

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Anonymous wrote:SAT<1200 is really not a college material. Real college , that is.

I got less than a 1200 back in the day. I have 3 degrees from “real colleges”, including a Master’s. Always got great grades in during all 3 programs. Doing a-ok in life. But whatever you need to tell yourself, lady.

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Anonymous wrote:SAT<1200 is really not a college material. Real college , that is.

I got less than a 1200 back in the day. I have 3 degrees from “real colleges”, including a Master’s. Always got great grades in during all 3 programs. Doing a-ok in life. But whatever you need to tell yourself, lady.

Back in the day a 1000 is what a 1200 is now. You're not making the point you think you're making.

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Anonymous wrote:Back in the 90s, I just broke 1000 on my SATs. My brother got 1300 something. He dropped out of college his freshman year because he didn’t attend class much. I got a bachelor’s degree and then two master’s degrees. SATs don’t predict the things that matter like perseverance.

Back in the 90s, 1000 wasn't a terrible score. I got into an Ivy with a 1250. HS class of 1988.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The biggest BS is 'my kid is not good at taking tests (while academically great)'.

WTF how the F the kid handles all the tests, exams, midterms, finals, etc. in a college

I solve hard problems at work and never once have I needed to do it by myself in a 3 hour sitting, except in an interview situation.

Tell that to colleges, medical schools, law schools, etc.

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Anonymous wrote:Back in the 90s, I just broke 1000 on my SATs. My brother got 1300 something. He dropped out of college his freshman year because he didn’t attend class much. I got a bachelor’s degree and then two master’s degrees. SATs don’t predict the things that matter like perseverance.

Back in the 90s, 1000 wasn't a terrible score. I got into an Ivy with a 1250. HS class of 1988.

I got into a T10, with a 29. I hear you. HS class of 1993.

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Anonymous wrote:The unwashed masses of Ohio State with over 40,000 students and their freshman class test submitting rate is 20% for SAT and 60% for ACT. Yuck. Who knew absolute dunces were walking amongst us. /s

And any large state school that everyone touts. Even the Southern ones that have the least educated populations. They all must be dummies because of TO.

Sounds silly, right?

Not dummies necessarily, but almost certainly less academically qualified than students submitting test scores.

Submitting scores often just indicates your parents have the funds to spend on multiple tests and professional test prep.

Really? So every kid that does well must be because of funds and test prep??

My kid took it once, paid for by MCPS, no professional test prep, no tutoring. Scored 1570+.

Even rich people can have super smart kids.