If your child was TO or below 1400 on the SAT, how are they doing in college?

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Anonymous wrote:The unwashed masses of Ohio State with over 40,000 students and their freshman class test submitting rate is 20% for SAT and 60% for ACT. Yuck. Who knew absolute dunces were walking amongst us. /s

And any large state school that everyone touts. Even the Southern ones that have the least educated populations. They all must be dummies because of TO.

Sounds silly, right?

Not dummies necessarily, but almost certainly less academically qualified than students submitting test scores.

Submitting scores often just indicates your parents have the funds to spend on multiple tests and professional test prep.

Really? So every kid that does well must be because of funds and test prep??

My kid took it once, paid for by MCPS, no professional test prep, no tutoring. Scored 1570+.

Even rich people can have super smart kids.

No, that’s why I wrote “often.” How did you do on the reading comprehension part of the test?

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Low IQ parents and kids are mad. It's sad, really.

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Anonymous wrote:The unwashed masses of Ohio State with over 40,000 students and their freshman class test submitting rate is 20% for SAT and 60% for ACT. Yuck. Who knew absolute dunces were walking amongst us. /s

And any large state school that everyone touts. Even the Southern ones that have the least educated populations. They all must be dummies because of TO.

Sounds silly, right?

Not dummies necessarily, but almost certainly less academically qualified than students submitting test scores.

Submitting scores often just indicates your parents have the funds to spend on multiple tests and professional test prep.

Really? So every kid that does well must be because of funds and test prep??

My kid took it once, paid for by MCPS, no professional test prep, no tutoring. Scored 1570+.

Even rich people can have super smart kids.

More often than not, the high score kids do not use any test prep or tutoring.
Conversely, the ones who use test prep or tutoring often only achieve a mediocre score.
This day and age, there are tons of study materials out there for free. There is no need for tutoring (chegg is out of business).
Also, there are free tutors available from CB.
These standardized tests are not difficult; they primarily assess material that aligns with a standard middle-high school curriculum, including algebra, geometry, reading comprehension, and grammar—subjects students are expected to learn to earn a high school diploma.

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Anonymous wrote:The unwashed masses of Ohio State with over 40,000 students and their freshman class test submitting rate is 20% for SAT and 60% for ACT. Yuck. Who knew absolute dunces were walking amongst us. /s

And any large state school that everyone touts. Even the Southern ones that have the least educated populations. They all must be dummies because of TO.

Sounds silly, right?

Not dummies necessarily, but almost certainly less academically qualified than students submitting test scores.

Submitting scores often just indicates your parents have the funds to spend on multiple tests and professional test prep.

Really? So every kid that does well must be because of funds and test prep??

My kid took it once, paid for by MCPS, no professional test prep, no tutoring. Scored 1570+.

Even rich people can have super smart kids.

More often than not, the high score kids do not use any test prep or tutoring.
Conversely, the ones who use test prep or tutoring often only achieve a mediocre score.
This day and age, there are tons of study materials out there for free. There is no need for tutoring (chegg is out of business).
Also, there are free tutors available from CB.
These standardized tests are not difficult; they primarily assess material that aligns with a standard middle-high school curriculum, including algebra, geometry, reading comprehension, and grammar—subjects students are expected to learn to earn a high school diploma.

Blah, blah, blah.

The test prep industry is a billion dollars for a reason. It keeps the College Board and ACT in business. Superscore anyone?

And the vast majority of UMC families utilize it. Asians basically invented cram mills and their Asian American offspring use some variation of them in the U S. too.

Don't be fooled nor naive.

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Anonymous wrote:Are they doing well?

I'm going to blow your mind.....

I got a 1240 and I make in the 1% income and have 1% with no parental help. I went to run of the mill state school too, where I graduated summa cum laude, had grad school paid 100% in a science field and worked my way up the corporate ladder.

Oh, I did get a 34 on the ACT though and was in the top 10% of my very large suburban highschool. And because of my ACT score I got 100% scholarship at my state university.

SAT is just a test. It doesn't predict anything.

Let me start out by saying, that yes, SAT/ACT is just one data point, and if you were not having a good day when you took the test, it's not a reflection of your abilities.

Having stated that, a lot of top colleges are going back to test required because the tests are an indication of how well you do in college.

And having stated that, how well you do or don't do in college is not a predictor of how well you will do in life.

I had a low SAT score (1000), gpa 3.4ish in college. But, I come from a lower immigrant family, parents could never help with tutors or enrichment, and I worked my way through a low C rated state u. I didn't have time to study for some of my finals. That said, I ended up making six figures by 30, and this was over 20 years ago. I have always been a high performer in my field.

I realize times have changed, but how well you do academically is not a predictor of how well you do in the work place. Some people are just great at academics, and some are only really good at what they do in their jobs, and some are good at both.

This is true for me too. I worked 20 hours a week my last 3 years of highschool. I still made good grades though. And yes, tests or even grades is not a predictor of success. That was my whole point. We're probably similar in work ethic - I don't really remember not working.

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Anonymous wrote:The unwashed masses of Ohio State with over 40,000 students and their freshman class test submitting rate is 20% for SAT and 60% for ACT. Yuck. Who knew absolute dunces were walking amongst us. /s

And any large state school that everyone touts. Even the Southern ones that have the least educated populations. They all must be dummies because of TO.

Sounds silly, right?

Not dummies necessarily, but almost certainly less academically qualified than students submitting test scores.

Submitting scores often just indicates your parents have the funds to spend on multiple tests and professional test prep.

Really? So every kid that does well must be because of funds and test prep??

My kid took it once, paid for by MCPS, no professional test prep, no tutoring. Scored 1570+.

Even rich people can have super smart kids.

More often than not, the high score kids do not use any test prep or tutoring.
Conversely, the ones who use test prep or tutoring often only achieve a mediocre score.
This day and age, there are tons of study materials out there for free. There is no need for tutoring (chegg is out of business).
Also, there are free tutors available from CB.
These standardized tests are not difficult; they primarily assess material that aligns with a standard middle-high school curriculum, including algebra, geometry, reading comprehension, and grammar—subjects students are expected to learn to earn a high school diploma.

Blah, blah, blah.

The test prep industry is a billion dollars for a reason. It keeps the College Board and ACT in business. Superscore anyone?

And the vast majority of UMC families utilize it. Asians basically invented cram mills and their Asian American offspring use some variation of them in the U S. too.

Don't be fooled nor naive.

Misleading generalization, false and unfounded statements, and racist.

UMC families are in a rat race, some may use it, but more often than not it just reflects anxiety of these families. More often than not, test prep doesn't help these families to get a better result.

Khan Academy’s partnership with College Board has leveled the playing field more than ever before. Students using it consistently score 115 points higher on average (according to College Board). That’s free and public info.

Superscoring benefits everyone, not just a particular demographic.

Asian American families emphasize education. Plenty of Asian kids prep solo to get a top score. There is no evidence whatsoever that Asian kids use prep more than any other demographics.

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My dh and I - and most of our friends- were above average academically. We also focused on colleges and test score differentiations blah blah. With the exception of several trust fund kids among us, most of us are doing well but no one is super wealthy, and we all work for a living.

The people we know who are very wealthy are 1. A plumber who started his own business and landed major commercial contracts. 2. my SIL and her dh who both got abysmal scores on the ACT but opened up a business that makes $$; 3. A guy who started investing in Brooklyn commercial real estate 30+ years ago.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Are they doing well?

I'm going to blow your mind.....

I got a 1240 and I make in the 1% income and have 1% with no parental help. I went to run of the mill state school too, where I graduated summa cum laude, had grad school paid 100% in a science field and worked my way up the corporate ladder.

Oh, I did get a 34 on the ACT though and was in the top 10% of my very large suburban highschool. And because of my ACT score I got 100% scholarship at my state university.

SAT is just a test. It doesn't predict anything.

You must be White. This kind of unfounded arrogance and over-confidence comes from knowing that this country will give you all the chances if your color is correct!

Wow the racial resentment is strong here. You know you could have moved to a majority brown/black country yet didn’t. Funny how that never happens.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The unwashed masses of Ohio State with over 40,000 students and their freshman class test submitting rate is 20% for SAT and 60% for ACT. Yuck. Who knew absolute dunces were walking amongst us. /s

And any large state school that everyone touts. Even the Southern ones that have the least educated populations. They all must be dummies because of TO.

Sounds silly, right?

Not dummies necessarily, but almost certainly less academically qualified than students submitting test scores.

Submitting scores often just indicates your parents have the funds to spend on multiple tests and professional test prep.

Really? So every kid that does well must be because of funds and test prep??

My kid took it once, paid for by MCPS, no professional test prep, no tutoring. Scored 1570+.

Even rich people can have super smart kids.

More often than not, the high score kids do not use any test prep or tutoring.
Conversely, the ones who use test prep or tutoring often only achieve a mediocre score.
This day and age, there are tons of study materials out there for free. There is no need for tutoring (chegg is out of business).
Also, there are free tutors available from CB.
These standardized tests are not difficult; they primarily assess material that aligns with a standard middle-high school curriculum, including algebra, geometry, reading comprehension, and grammar—subjects students are expected to learn to earn a high school diploma.

Blah, blah, blah.

The test prep industry is a billion dollars for a reason. It keeps the College Board and ACT in business. Superscore anyone?

And the vast majority of UMC families utilize it. Asians basically invented cram mills and their Asian American offspring use some variation of them in the U S. too.

Don't be fooled nor naive.

Exactly.

[Anonymous]

When evaluating first-year candidates for software engineering jobs we make them take a test, and the highest scorer gets he interview. We don't care about GPA, we should do the same for college entry.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Are they doing well?

I'm going to blow your mind.....

I got a 1240 and I make in the 1% income and have 1% with no parental help. I went to run of the mill state school too, where I graduated summa cum laude, had grad school paid 100% in a science field and worked my way up the corporate ladder.

Oh, I did get a 34 on the ACT though and was in the top 10% of my very large suburban highschool. And because of my ACT score I got 100% scholarship at my state university.

SAT is just a test. It doesn't predict anything.

You must be White. This kind of unfounded arrogance and over-confidence comes from knowing that this country will give you all the chances if your color is correct!

Wow the racial resentment is strong here. You know you could have moved to a majority brown/black country yet didn’t. Funny how that never happens.

Particularly strong against Asian American.

[Anonymous]

My DS had a 1380 sat and just graduated form UVA with a 3.9. My DD had a 30 ACT and hush graduated from a top 25 with a 3.5 gpa. (Late ADHD diagnosis)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:1350 is 90th percentile. Don't think you need to be worried about kids with SATs above 1300 lol.

+1
There are some posters who repeatedly fail to acknowledge that. The DCUM bubble is real.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The unwashed masses of Ohio State with over 40,000 students and their freshman class test submitting rate is 20% for SAT and 60% for ACT. Yuck. Who knew absolute dunces were walking amongst us. /s

And any large state school that everyone touts. Even the Southern ones that have the least educated populations. They all must be dummies because of TO.

Sounds silly, right?

Not dummies necessarily, but almost certainly less academically qualified than students submitting test scores.

Submitting scores often just indicates your parents have the funds to spend on multiple tests and professional test prep.

Really? So every kid that does well must be because of funds and test prep??

My kid took it once, paid for by MCPS, no professional test prep, no tutoring. Scored 1570+.

Even rich people can have super smart kids.

More often than not, the high score kids do not use any test prep or tutoring.
Conversely, the ones who use test prep or tutoring often only achieve a mediocre score.
This day and age, there are tons of study materials out there for free. There is no need for tutoring (chegg is out of business).
Also, there are free tutors available from CB.
These standardized tests are not difficult; they primarily assess material that aligns with a standard middle-high school curriculum, including algebra, geometry, reading comprehension, and grammar—subjects students are expected to learn to earn a high school diploma.

Blah, blah, blah.

The test prep industry is a billion dollars for a reason. It keeps the College Board and ACT in business. Superscore anyone?

And the vast majority of UMC families utilize it. Asians basically invented cram mills and their Asian American offspring use some variation of them in the U S. too.

Don't be fooled nor naive.

Kid got 1230 SAT LOL