If your child was TO or below 1400 on the SAT, how are they doing in college?

[Anonymous]

Back in the 90s, I just broke 1000 on my SATs. My brother got 1300 something. He dropped out of college his freshman year because he didn’t attend class much. I got a bachelor’s degree and then two master’s degrees. SATs don’t predict the things that matter like perseverance.

[Anonymous]

When half of the class are TO, you won't be any different from half of the class. You sort of do fine.

The right comparison is the put a TO kid in a test required school. Then ask the question how they are doing there. It would be tough.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:When half of the class are TO, you won't be any different from half of the class. You sort of do fine.

The right comparison is the put a TO kid in a test required school. Then ask the question how they are doing there. It would be tough.

There’s no harder curriculum between a test required and test optional school. You really think Florida Institute of Technology and University of Tennessee Southern have more difficult curriculums than Princeton and Carnegie Mellon? You’re delusional.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Are they doing well?

DS just graduated from Stanford this year. He is doing amazing. Has been accepted at Oxford for a master’s program.
He scored 1340 in the SAT 5 years ago….

Was that SAT during COVID lockdown or before?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Are they doing well?

I'm going to blow your mind.....

I got a 1240 and I make in the 1% income and have 1% with no parental help. I went to run of the mill state school too, where I graduated summa cum laude, had grad school paid 100% in a science field and worked my way up the corporate ladder.

Oh, I did get a 34 on the ACT though and was in the top 10% of my very large suburban highschool. And because of my ACT score I got 100% scholarship at my state university.

SAT is just a test. It doesn't predict anything.

For a scientist, you have a fairly weakness grasp on what "predict" means.

Sounds like you only took SAT once, and took ACT also for some reason??? and earned a score equivalent to well above OP's 1400.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Are they doing well?

I'm going to blow your mind.....

I got a 1240 and I make in the 1% income and have 1% with no parental help. I went to run of the mill state school too, where I graduated summa cum laude, had grad school paid 100% in a science field and worked my way up the corporate ladder.

Oh, I did get a 34 on the ACT though and was in the top 10% of my very large suburban highschool. And because of my ACT score I got 100% scholarship at my state university.

SAT is just a test. It doesn't predict anything.

For a scientist, you have a fairly weakness grasp on what "predict" means.

Sounds like you only took SAT once, and took ACT also for some reason??? and earned a score equivalent to well above OP's 1400.

+1
Lots of lying on this thread.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Are they doing well?

Why do YOU want to know?

Do you have a TO / sub 1400 kid applying to colleges?

[Anonymous]

A 1400 is the 94th percentile. Do you really think that only the top 6 percent of SAT scorers can handle college?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When half of the class are TO, you won't be any different from half of the class. You sort of do fine.

The right comparison is the put a TO kid in a test required school. Then ask the question how they are doing there. It would be tough.

There’s no harder curriculum between a test required and test optional school. You really think Florida Institute of Technology and University of Tennessee Southern have more difficult curriculums than Princeton and Carnegie Mellon? You’re delusional.

It may not be the curriculum. It's the difference in peers and the competition you TO kids would face in different schools. When half of the class are TO, your TO kids are competing with half of class being TO who are less competent. When it's test required, your TO kids are facing a lot tougher competition.

It is also possible that, in TO schools, professors may have to water down the curriculum when a large number of the TO kids cannot follow what they teach. We hear a lot of complain from the professors these days, and Harvard initiated the remedial math class.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When half of the class are TO, you won't be any different from half of the class. You sort of do fine.

The right comparison is the put a TO kid in a test required school. Then ask the question how they are doing there. It would be tough.

There’s no harder curriculum between a test required and test optional school. You really think Florida Institute of Technology and University of Tennessee Southern have more difficult curriculums than Princeton and Carnegie Mellon? You’re delusional.

It may not be the curriculum. It's the difference in peers and the competition you TO kids would face in different schools. When half of the class are TO, your TO kids are competing with half of class being TO who are less competent. When it's test required, your TO kids are facing a lot tougher competition.

It is also possible that, in TO schools, professors may have to water down the curriculum when a large number of the TO kids cannot follow what they teach. We hear a lot of complain from the professors these days, and Harvard initiated the remedial math class.

None of this is true.

You're putting too much emphasis one and standardized test.

80%+ of colleges don't.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:A 1400 is the 94th percentile. Do you really think that only the top 6 percent of SAT scorers can handle college?

Yes, thanks for asking!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When half of the class are TO, you won't be any different from half of the class. You sort of do fine.

The right comparison is the put a TO kid in a test required school. Then ask the question how they are doing there. It would be tough.

There’s no harder curriculum between a test required and test optional school. You really think Florida Institute of Technology and University of Tennessee Southern have more difficult curriculums than Princeton and Carnegie Mellon? You’re delusional.

It may not be the curriculum. It's the difference in peers and the competition you TO kids would face in different schools. When half of the class are TO, your TO kids are competing with half of class being TO who are less competent. When it's test required, your TO kids are facing a lot tougher competition.

It is also possible that, in TO schools, professors may have to water down the curriculum when a large number of the TO kids cannot follow what they teach. We hear a lot of complain from the professors these days, and Harvard initiated the remedial math class.

None of this is true.

You're putting too much emphasis one and standardized test.

80%+ of colleges don't.

Six out of eight ivies are test required.
The majority of T20 are test required, for a reason.

[Anonymous]

SATs are the only way to really assess a student's ability. Sorry you can't cheat on the SAT like you could in classes and are upset. 🤷‍♀️

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:SATs are the only way to really assess a student's ability. Sorry you can't cheat on the SAT like you could in classes and are upset. 🤷‍♀️

The bigger issue is that class gpa are so inflated these days. As are handed out like free candy. GPAs, particularly unweighted, mean very little.

[Anonymous]

I wonder how sad TO kids are with their Ivy and T50 degrees lol. Nobody cares once you start college. Only insane people focus on an SAT score after admittance to college. These kids are leaders in their college community and doing things in and out of the classroom. There’s more to life than a test score. College Board created a cult.