Are topics like Diversity and Equity out this year?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How will threats by the new administration impact admissions review of applications in the upcoming year? No more diversity essay? Or don't highlight anything dealing with diversity or equity and the like in your essays or ECs?

According to a Trump Administration official who spoke about Harvard:
“[They] should assign Office of [sic] Civil Rights employees to the Harvard admissions office and direct the university to hold no admissions meeting without their physical presence,” Eden wrote. “The Office of Civil Rights should be copied on every email correspondence, and Harvard should be forced to provide a written rationale for every admissions decision to ensure nondiscrimination.”

https://www.insidehighered.com/news/admissions/traditional-age/2025/04/14/admissions-offices-brace-federal-scrutiny

It's not clear what his role is but it's safe to say there is pressure being exerted by the administration. Please, only comments on changes you think will occur - this is not an invite for trolls to hijack this thread!

Are you white? If so, why are you interested in this?

Whites have voted majority GOP ever since the Civil Rights act of 1964. Coincidence? No.

The OP is white and wants his average white kid to continue to benefit from historical and embedded admissions advantages.

It's always about race. It's American history.

Republicans think minorities can compete. Democrats think minorities are so helpless & hopeless that they need their patronizing party to pat minorities on the head & say “don’t worry about improving, we all know you can’t do it, but we will help you out.”

The GOP is a party of white supremacists.
Fixed it for you.

How is that different from democrats who thinks blacks are too stupid to do well on stanrdized tests and the only reason asians do better than them is because they cheat.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How will threats by the new administration impact admissions review of applications in the upcoming year? No more diversity essay? Or don't highlight anything dealing with diversity or equity and the like in your essays or ECs?

According to a Trump Administration official who spoke about Harvard:
“[They] should assign Office of [sic] Civil Rights employees to the Harvard admissions office and direct the university to hold no admissions meeting without their physical presence,” Eden wrote. “The Office of Civil Rights should be copied on every email correspondence, and Harvard should be forced to provide a written rationale for every admissions decision to ensure nondiscrimination.”

https://www.insidehighered.com/news/admissions/traditional-age/2025/04/14/admissions-offices-brace-federal-scrutiny

It's not clear what his role is but it's safe to say there is pressure being exerted by the administration. Please, only comments on changes you think will occur - this is not an invite for trolls to hijack this thread!

I wish this happened last year.

The diversity essays are nothing sort of ridiculous. At 14 to 17 years of age, children do not have to come up with stuff they did to show how inclusive or diverse they are.

Thank you Trump!

You likely also believe that merit is solely defined by a test score. Your post above is a great example of inadequate intellect and your need to push for a narrow and inaccurate definition of merit to compensate for your intellectual deficiencies.

DP

In almost all of the rest of the world, merit is in fact mostly defined by a test score.

Is America right and the rest of the world wrong about this?

Considering the prestige of our universities, the incredible volume of useful research, the Nobel prize count, etc... YES.

Almost all from a time when merit was defined by a test score. How much of that research is from people who scored poorly on standardized tests?

Albert Einstein famously failed the entrance exam to the Swiss Federal Polytechnic in Zurich, Switzerland. And once he made it to university he was the second worse student who graduated.

Test scores are just one part of the formula. Thousands of years of history have taught the world that "smart" isn't enough on its own.

Resilience is another part which is why universities make accommodations for people who have the personality to work through setbacks.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How will threats by the new administration impact admissions review of applications in the upcoming year? No more diversity essay? Or don't highlight anything dealing with diversity or equity and the like in your essays or ECs?

According to a Trump Administration official who spoke about Harvard:
“[They] should assign Office of [sic] Civil Rights employees to the Harvard admissions office and direct the university to hold no admissions meeting without their physical presence,” Eden wrote. “The Office of Civil Rights should be copied on every email correspondence, and Harvard should be forced to provide a written rationale for every admissions decision to ensure nondiscrimination.”

https://www.insidehighered.com/news/admissions/traditional-age/2025/04/14/admissions-offices-brace-federal-scrutiny

It's not clear what his role is but it's safe to say there is pressure being exerted by the administration. Please, only comments on changes you think will occur - this is not an invite for trolls to hijack this thread!

I wish this happened last year.

The diversity essays are nothing sort of ridiculous. At 14 to 17 years of age, children do not have to come up with stuff they did to show how inclusive or diverse they are.

Thank you Trump!

You likely also believe that merit is solely defined by a test score. Your post above is a great example of inadequate intellect and your need to push for a narrow and inaccurate definition of merit to compensate for your intellectual deficiencies.

DP

In almost all of the rest of the world, merit is in fact mostly defined by a test score.

Is America right and the rest of the world wrong about this?

Considering the prestige of our universities, the incredible volume of useful research, the Nobel prize count, etc... YES.

Almost all from a time when merit was defined by a test score. How much of that research is from people who scored poorly on standardized tests?

Albert Einstein famously failed the entrance exam to the Swiss Federal Polytechnic in Zurich, Switzerland. And once he made it to university he was the second worse student who graduated.

Test scores are just one part of the formula. Thousands of years of history have taught the world that "smart" isn't enough on its own.

Resilience is another part which is why universities make accommodations for people who have the personality to work through setbacks.

Test scores reflect resilience. A higher score shows academic grit and discipline, as well as resourcefulness.

The kids I know scoring low are no Albert Einstein. They just lack the discipline and academic preparation or capacity.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The irony of Trumpsters wanting to get rid of DEI in college admissions is that truly doing that would mean that colleges would no longer be able to value the fact that applicants are from under-represented states or schools with fewer AP/honors offerings. If we truly had a meritocrasy, entire states would be shut of National Merit Scholars and the number of Asian students would rise at many competitive schools.

This is nonsense - it's perfectly fine to value kids from under-represented areas and review the application in context but not ok to focus on race or give a bump based solely on race.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How will threats by the new administration impact admissions review of applications in the upcoming year? No more diversity essay? Or don't highlight anything dealing with diversity or equity and the like in your essays or ECs?

According to a Trump Administration official who spoke about Harvard:
“[They] should assign Office of [sic] Civil Rights employees to the Harvard admissions office and direct the university to hold no admissions meeting without their physical presence,” Eden wrote. “The Office of Civil Rights should be copied on every email correspondence, and Harvard should be forced to provide a written rationale for every admissions decision to ensure nondiscrimination.”

https://www.insidehighered.com/news/admissions/traditional-age/2025/04/14/admissions-offices-brace-federal-scrutiny

It's not clear what his role is but it's safe to say there is pressure being exerted by the administration. Please, only comments on changes you think will occur - this is not an invite for trolls to hijack this thread!

I wish this happened last year.

The diversity essays are nothing sort of ridiculous. At 14 to 17 years of age, children do not have to come up with stuff they did to show how inclusive or diverse they are.

Thank you Trump!

You likely also believe that merit is solely defined by a test score. Your post above is a great example of inadequate intellect and your need to push for a narrow and inaccurate definition of merit to compensate for your intellectual deficiencies.

DP

In almost all of the rest of the world, merit is in fact mostly defined by a test score.

Is America right and the rest of the world wrong about this?

America is wrong and the test scores demonstrate that fact.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Programme_for_International_Student_Assessment

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The irony of Trumpsters wanting to get rid of DEI in college admissions is that truly doing that would mean that colleges would no longer be able to value the fact that applicants are from under-represented states or schools with fewer AP/honors offerings. If we truly had a meritocrasy, entire states would be shut of National Merit Scholars and the number of Asian students would rise at many competitive schools.

This is nonsense - it's perfectly fine to value kids from under-represented areas and review the application in context but not ok to focus on race or give a bump based solely on race.

DEI is not just about race though.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How will threats by the new administration impact admissions review of applications in the upcoming year? No more diversity essay? Or don't highlight anything dealing with diversity or equity and the like in your essays or ECs?

According to a Trump Administration official who spoke about Harvard:
“[They] should assign Office of [sic] Civil Rights employees to the Harvard admissions office and direct the university to hold no admissions meeting without their physical presence,” Eden wrote. “The Office of Civil Rights should be copied on every email correspondence, and Harvard should be forced to provide a written rationale for every admissions decision to ensure nondiscrimination.”

https://www.insidehighered.com/news/admissions/traditional-age/2025/04/14/admissions-offices-brace-federal-scrutiny

It's not clear what his role is but it's safe to say there is pressure being exerted by the administration. Please, only comments on changes you think will occur - this is not an invite for trolls to hijack this thread!

Are you white? If so, why are you interested in this?

Whites have voted majority GOP ever since the Civil Rights act of 1964. Coincidence? No.

The OP is white and wants his average white kid to continue to benefit from historical and embedded admissions advantages.

It's always about race. It's American history.

Yeah, it’s almost like diversity doesn’t make us stronger.

Multiculturalism vs assimilation.

Salad bowl vs melting pot.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How will threats by the new administration impact admissions review of applications in the upcoming year? No more diversity essay? Or don't highlight anything dealing with diversity or equity and the like in your essays or ECs?

According to a Trump Administration official who spoke about Harvard:
“[They] should assign Office of [sic] Civil Rights employees to the Harvard admissions office and direct the university to hold no admissions meeting without their physical presence,” Eden wrote. “The Office of Civil Rights should be copied on every email correspondence, and Harvard should be forced to provide a written rationale for every admissions decision to ensure nondiscrimination.”

https://www.insidehighered.com/news/admissions/traditional-age/2025/04/14/admissions-offices-brace-federal-scrutiny

It's not clear what his role is but it's safe to say there is pressure being exerted by the administration. Please, only comments on changes you think will occur - this is not an invite for trolls to hijack this thread!

I wish this happened last year.

The diversity essays are nothing sort of ridiculous. At 14 to 17 years of age, children do not have to come up with stuff they did to show how inclusive or diverse they are.

Thank you Trump!

You likely also believe that merit is solely defined by a test score. Your post above is a great example of inadequate intellect and your need to push for a narrow and inaccurate definition of merit to compensate for your intellectual deficiencies.

DP

In almost all of the rest of the world, merit is in fact mostly defined by a test score.

Is America right and the rest of the world wrong about this?

Considering the prestige of our universities, the incredible volume of useful research, the Nobel prize count, etc... YES.

Almost all from a time when merit was defined by a test score. How much of that research is from people who scored poorly on standardized tests?

Albert Einstein famously failed the entrance exam to the Swiss Federal Polytechnic in Zurich, Switzerland. And once he made it to university he was the second worse student who graduated.

Albert Einstein famously took a test in french when he didn't speak french and failed.

Test scores are just one part of the formula. Thousands of years of history have taught the world that "smart" isn't enough on its own.

Resilience is another part which is why universities make accommodations for people who have the personality to work through setbacks.

Test scores measure most of what you would reasonably want to measure.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The irony of Trumpsters wanting to get rid of DEI in college admissions is that truly doing that would mean that colleges would no longer be able to value the fact that applicants are from under-represented states or schools with fewer AP/honors offerings. If we truly had a meritocrasy, entire states would be shut of National Merit Scholars and the number of Asian students would rise at many competitive schools.

This is nonsense - it's perfectly fine to value kids from under-represented areas and review the application in context but not ok to focus on race or give a bump based solely on race.

DEI is not just about race though.

In practice, it is mostly about race.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How will threats by the new administration impact admissions review of applications in the upcoming year? No more diversity essay? Or don't highlight anything dealing with diversity or equity and the like in your essays or ECs?

According to a Trump Administration official who spoke about Harvard:
“[They] should assign Office of [sic] Civil Rights employees to the Harvard admissions office and direct the university to hold no admissions meeting without their physical presence,” Eden wrote. “The Office of Civil Rights should be copied on every email correspondence, and Harvard should be forced to provide a written rationale for every admissions decision to ensure nondiscrimination.”

https://www.insidehighered.com/news/admissions/traditional-age/2025/04/14/admissions-offices-brace-federal-scrutiny

It's not clear what his role is but it's safe to say there is pressure being exerted by the administration. Please, only comments on changes you think will occur - this is not an invite for trolls to hijack this thread!

I wish this happened last year.

The diversity essays are nothing sort of ridiculous. At 14 to 17 years of age, children do not have to come up with stuff they did to show how inclusive or diverse they are.

Thank you Trump!

You likely also believe that merit is solely defined by a test score. Your post above is a great example of inadequate intellect and your need to push for a narrow and inaccurate definition of merit to compensate for your intellectual deficiencies.

DP

In almost all of the rest of the world, merit is in fact mostly defined by a test score.

Is America right and the rest of the world wrong about this?

Considering the prestige of our universities, the incredible volume of useful research, the Nobel prize count, etc... YES.

Almost all from a time when merit was defined by a test score. How much of that research is from people who scored poorly on standardized tests?

Albert Einstein famously failed the entrance exam to the Swiss Federal Polytechnic in Zurich, Switzerland. And once he made it to university he was the second worse student who graduated.

Test scores are just one part of the formula. Thousands of years of history have taught the world that "smart" isn't enough on its own.

Resilience is another part which is why universities make accommodations for people who have the personality to work through setbacks.

Everyone who scores low on the SAT or ACT is a budding Albert Einstein.

Got it.

[Anonymous]

Look at these laughable comments trying to dismiss that reality that THE Albert Einstein was denied entrance to university because of one exam. One four hour test taken one day in high school does not fix their path through life. You actually want people to give up on themselves? Einstein didn't. Pretty smart of him, right?

[Anonymous]

BTW, most DCUM kids have been very well supported by their parents. From the pre-natal vitamins, to the baby brainiac videos, to the daily pep talks. These kids have not ever needed to show resilience. We never let them get anywhere near failure. Mine included. At a T10 now. Has the mind for it. And we taught the work habits. But resilient remains to be seen. My kid has never yet been behind then 8 ball

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The irony of Trumpsters wanting to get rid of DEI in college admissions is that truly doing that would mean that colleges would no longer be able to value the fact that applicants are from under-represented states or schools with fewer AP/honors offerings. If we truly had a meritocrasy, entire states would be shut of National Merit Scholars and the number of Asian students would rise at many competitive schools.

This is nonsense - it's perfectly fine to value kids from under-represented areas and review the application in context but not ok to focus on race or give a bump based solely on race.

DEI is not just about race though.

Trump and his ilk make it about race to drum up votes.