What’s the point of redshirting when it cancels out the pride factor?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I understand that kids who are older generally do better in school and end up with better jobs. But the whole point of getting good grades and having a good job is to have something to be proud of, and outperforming kids a year younger than you is nothing to be proud of.

The point is rubbing the success of my child in the face of other parents that were too dumb to redshirt their kids when countless studies show it’s a MAJOR ADVANTAGE for grades and career. I relish their envious looks and snide comments, it just proves I did the RIGHT THING and they were just sheep following stupid rules. Nothing they have compares to the success of my child, while theirs is embarrassingly stupid and can barely keep up with school work, this year and the next year, all the way to COMMUNITY COLLEGE, while mine will be targeting IVY”s.

OUTPERFORMING kids a year younger is so much better than being a LOSER amongst kids your own age. Nobody will interview a Harvard graduate and ask how old they were when they went to freaking KINDERGARTEN!

OP, if you’re one of those parents sorry, NOT sorry!

I don't actually care about redshirting, especially because usually it's done because child has a developmental delay of some kind and of course I would never begrudge doing what is right to help a child with special needs, but my kid is the youngest in the grade and is at the top of her class. You are vastly overstating the benefits of redshirting, which are marginal at best, and far less important than things like parents' level of education, SES level, and willingness to invest those resources in your kid. Also just a kid's natural intelligence level and predisposition to learning. Redshirting is not going to get your kid into Harvard if he wouldn't have gotten in without it. You know that, right?

Redshirting is NOT not get him into Harvard either.

You profess that you don’t care while posting about how redshirting cancels the pride factor and badmouthing kids and families that redshirt. Sounds like green envy to me, but that’s fine, I’m used to it.

It’s true, classes move too slow for my kid, that’s why I asked the teacher to differentiate and give him worksheets above grade. I bet you hate that too! Tough luck!

My kids special need is to be the best and brightest in his grade, there, I said it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I understand that kids who are older generally do better in school and end up with better jobs. But the whole point of getting good grades and having a good job is to have something to be proud of, and outperforming kids a year younger than you is nothing to be proud of.

The point is rubbing the success of my child in the face of other parents that were too dumb to redshirt their kids when countless studies show it’s a MAJOR ADVANTAGE for grades and career. I relish their envious looks and snide comments, it just proves I did the RIGHT THING and they were just sheep following stupid rules. Nothing they have compares to the success of my child, while theirs is embarrassingly stupid and can barely keep up with school work, this year and the next year, all the way to COMMUNITY COLLEGE, while mine will be targeting IVY”s.

OUTPERFORMING kids a year younger is so much better than being a LOSER amongst kids your own age. Nobody will interview a Harvard graduate and ask how old they were when they went to freaking KINDERGARTEN!

OP, if you’re one of those parents sorry, NOT sorry!

I don't actually care about redshirting, especially because usually it's done because child has a developmental delay of some kind and of course I would never begrudge doing what is right to help a child with special needs, but my kid is the youngest in the grade and is at the top of her class. You are vastly overstating the benefits of redshirting, which are marginal at best, and far less important than things like parents' level of education, SES level, and willingness to invest those resources in your kid. Also just a kid's natural intelligence level and predisposition to learning. Redshirting is not going to get your kid into Harvard if he wouldn't have gotten in without it. You know that, right?

Great, I overstate the benefits of redshirting, then my pride for my child should not bother you in the least since it’s based on false premises. But then you wouldn’t post every other month how redshirting is cheating, and how your amazing kid is youngest in her class and top of the class etc.

You do protest too much, lol.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I understand that kids who are older generally do better in school and end up with better jobs. But the whole point of getting good grades and having a good job is to have something to be proud of, and outperforming kids a year younger than you is nothing to be proud of.

The point is rubbing the success of my child in the face of other parents that were too dumb to redshirt their kids when countless studies show it’s a MAJOR ADVANTAGE for grades and career. I relish their envious looks and snide comments, it just proves I did the RIGHT THING and they were just sheep following stupid rules. Nothing they have compares to the success of my child, while theirs is embarrassingly stupid and can barely keep up with school work, this year and the next year, all the way to COMMUNITY COLLEGE, while mine will be targeting IVY”s.

OUTPERFORMING kids a year younger is so much better than being a LOSER amongst kids your own age. Nobody will interview a Harvard graduate and ask how old they were when they went to freaking KINDERGARTEN!

OP, if you’re one of those parents sorry, NOT sorry!

I don't actually care about redshirting, especially because usually it's done because child has a developmental delay of some kind and of course I would never begrudge doing what is right to help a child with special needs, but my kid is the youngest in the grade and is at the top of her class. You are vastly overstating the benefits of redshirting, which are marginal at best, and far less important than things like parents' level of education, SES level, and willingness to invest those resources in your kid. Also just a kid's natural intelligence level and predisposition to learning. Redshirting is not going to get your kid into Harvard if he wouldn't have gotten in without it. You know that, right?

Why couldn’t you never begrudge doing what’s right to help a child, period? With or without special needs. The fact that you’re qualifying that statement shows just how scummy and sleazy you are.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Actually, the more recent research shows the opposite- that kids who are not redshirted do better academically after controlling for all the variables including SES and parental education levels.

Because they didn’t need to be redshirted. Duh.

We redshirted one dc due to special needs. He’s never going to be valedictorian. Calm down.

Wow, you sound like such a confident parent.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Here’s an interesting article that includes a Harvard study. There are advantages to being older when the kids are you but then the advantages wear off and younger kids do better. This is what I’ve noticed in our schools system. Kids are in college now.

http://newamerica.org/early-elementary-education/early-ed-watch/research-suggests-redshirting-may-be-harmful/

Honey, this is DCUM. People here have read and analyzed the source studies. We don’t need a badly written article from 2013 that doesn’t understand the source material.

Honey, you asked for a study and got one.

Oh. You don’t even understand what a study is.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I understand that kids who are older generally do better in school and end up with better jobs. But the whole point of getting good grades and having a good job is to have something to be proud of, and outperforming kids a year younger than you is nothing to be proud of.

The point is rubbing the success of my child in the face of other parents that were too dumb to redshirt their kids when countless studies show it’s a MAJOR ADVANTAGE for grades and career. I relish their envious looks and snide comments, it just proves I did the RIGHT THING and they were just sheep following stupid rules. Nothing they have compares to the success of my child, while theirs is embarrassingly stupid and can barely keep up with school work, this year and the next year, all the way to COMMUNITY COLLEGE, while mine will be targeting IVY”s.

OUTPERFORMING kids a year younger is so much better than being a LOSER amongst kids your own age. Nobody will interview a Harvard graduate and ask how old they were when they went to freaking KINDERGARTEN!

OP, if you’re one of those parents sorry, NOT sorry!

🤣🤣

Chef’s kiss!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I understand that kids who are older generally do better in school and end up with better jobs. But the whole point of getting good grades and having a good job is to have something to be proud of, and outperforming kids a year younger than you is nothing to be proud of.

Lol, I love how in a community where parents don't blink at expensive private schools, academic tutors, college consultants, essay editors, and parental professional connections, some parents get all bent out of shape about REd sHiRTinG fOr KIndERgArTeN!!!!!! Like how old you are when you start kindergarten is really just the one line you don't cross!

It's ok, OP. There is enough privilege to go around.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I understand that kids who are older generally do better in school and end up with better jobs. But the whole point of getting good grades and having a good job is to have something to be proud of, and outperforming kids a year younger than you is nothing to be proud of.

Lol, I love how in a community where parents don't blink at expensive private schools, academic tutors, college consultants, essay editors, and parental professional connections, some parents get all bent out of shape about REd sHiRTinG fOr KIndERgArTeN!!!!!! Like how old you are when you start kindergarten is really just the one line you don't cross!

It's ok, OP. There is enough privilege to go around.

You can’t reason with crazy.

Chances are OP is privileged to the brim, she’s just pissed she can’t have the entire collection.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I understand that kids who are older generally do better in school and end up with better jobs. But the whole point of getting good grades and having a good job is to have something to be proud of, and outperforming kids a year younger than you is nothing to be proud of.

It's easy to forget they're a year younger than you when you're in the same grade.

For my August birthday kid, no one is a year younger. Many of the kids are a few weeks or a few months younger. The youngest kid in the class is a late June birthday, so there is less than a year between the oldest and the youngest.

Your kid doesn't have any July, August, or September "on time" birthdays in their class? Wow. That seems odd since there are plenty of summer birthdays.

My kids went to kindergarten when they were:

1. 5 years, 8 months (late December birthday)
2. 4 years, 11 months (mid September birthday)
3. 5 years, 1 month (late July birthday)
4. 5 years, 7 months (early January birthday)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I understand that kids who are older generally do better in school and end up with better jobs. But the whole point of getting good grades and having a good job is to have something to be proud of, and outperforming kids a year younger than you is nothing to be proud of.

The point is rubbing the success of my child in the face of other parents that were too dumb to redshirt their kids when countless studies show it’s a MAJOR ADVANTAGE for grades and career. I relish their envious looks and snide comments, it just proves I did the RIGHT THING and they were just sheep following stupid rules. Nothing they have compares to the success of my child, while theirs is embarrassingly stupid and can barely keep up with school work, this year and the next year, all the way to COMMUNITY COLLEGE, while mine will be targeting IVY”s.

OUTPERFORMING kids a year younger is so much better than being a LOSER amongst kids your own age. Nobody will interview a Harvard graduate and ask how old they were when they went to freaking KINDERGARTEN!

OP, if you’re one of those parents sorry, NOT sorry!

🤣🤣

Chef’s kiss!

Talk to me at college admissions time.

So pathetic how parents with all the privilege in the world are so concerned about when another kid starts kindergarten. Mind your own!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I understand that kids who are older generally do better in school and end up with better jobs. But the whole point of getting good grades and having a good job is to have something to be proud of, and outperforming kids a year younger than you is nothing to be proud of.

The point is rubbing the success of my child in the face of other parents that were too dumb to redshirt their kids when countless studies show it’s a MAJOR ADVANTAGE for grades and career. I relish their envious looks and snide comments, it just proves I did the RIGHT THING and they were just sheep following stupid rules. Nothing they have compares to the success of my child, while theirs is embarrassingly stupid and can barely keep up with school work, this year and the next year, all the way to COMMUNITY COLLEGE, while mine will be targeting IVY”s.

OUTPERFORMING kids a year younger is so much better than being a LOSER amongst kids your own age. Nobody will interview a Harvard graduate and ask how old they were when they went to freaking KINDERGARTEN!

OP, if you’re one of those parents sorry, NOT sorry!

🤣🤣

Chef’s kiss!

Talk to me at college admissions time.

So pathetic how parents with all the privilege in the world are so concerned about when another kid starts kindergarten. Mind your own!

Um I don’t think you understand. The chef’s kiss is for the person who is brilliantly trolling the anti-redshirters. It is anti-redshirters who are creepily obsessed with birthdates of other kids.

[Anonymous]

If I was going to start a school I would open it year round and have multiple time options for all units on the syllabus. Every child has the option of completing the grade syllabus from and until the birthday of the minimum to maximum age

Eg 17-19 for 12th grade 16- 18 for 11th grade ect.

That way everyone can redshirt and the standard of each class is risen since all the kids have proactively volunteered to be there ( at least compared to the current inflexible system)

[Anonymous]

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If I was going to start a school I would open it year round and have multiple time options for all units on the syllabus. Every child has the option of completing the grade syllabus from and until the birthday of the minimum to maximum age

Eg 17-19 for 12th grade 16- 18 for 11th grade ect.

That way everyone can redshirt and the standard of each class is risen since all the kids have proactively volunteered to be there ( at least compared to the current inflexible system)

I have an even better idea. Let parents decide what’s best for their kids and don’t worry about the birthday of other children. Problem solved.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I understand that kids who are older generally do better in school and end up with better jobs. But the whole point of getting good grades and having a good job is to have something to be proud of, and outperforming kids a year younger than you is nothing to be proud of.

It's easy to forget they're a year younger than you when you're in the same grade.

For my August birthday kid, no one is a year younger. Many of the kids are a few weeks or a few months younger. The youngest kid in the class is a late June birthday, so there is less than a year between the oldest and the youngest.

Your kid doesn't have any July, August, or September "on time" birthdays in their class? Wow. That seems odd since there are plenty of summer birthdays.

My kids went to kindergarten when they were:

1. 5 years, 8 months (late December birthday)
2. 4 years, 11 months (mid September birthday)
3. 5 years, 1 month (late July birthday)
4. 5 years, 7 months (early January birthday)

No. We are at a private school. The official cut off is September 1, but the school prefers kids with August birthdays and boys with July birthdays to start late. Occasionally there will be a July girl who starts. It all works out and I think it benefits all the kids not to have young boys in the early grades because they tend to be squirmy and disruptive. I say that as the mom of three squirmy boys.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
If I was going to start a school I would open it year round and have multiple time options for all units on the syllabus. Every child has the option of completing the grade syllabus from and until the birthday of the minimum to maximum age

Eg 17-19 for 12th grade 16- 18 for 11th grade ect.

That way everyone can redshirt and the standard of each class is risen since all the kids have proactively volunteered to be there ( at least compared to the current inflexible system)

I have an even better idea. Let parents decide what’s best for their kids and don’t worry about the birthday of other children. Problem solved.

Middle class parent of white summer born boys: I have the right to remove the disadvantage/ add an advantage by changing my son’s status from being young in the grade for old and nobody else’s gets the same choice or voice the impact of that choice for the other kids.