What’s the point of redshirting when it cancels out the pride factor?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Actually, the more recent research shows the opposite- that kids who are not redshirted do better academically after controlling for all the variables including SES and parental education levels.

Link or it didn’t happen.

Google is your friend.

NP. I am very familiar with all the actual studies on this area and you are lying.

No we aren't. You are looking at studies that only prove your point. Studies are also bias to prove their theory.

lol ok weirdo.

Since you can’t provide a single study citation (the actual study, if you understand what that even means), I don’t think intelligent people will be paying you any mind.

[Anonymous]

What a weird take. I worry for your children. (Did not redshirt, by the way.)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I understand that kids who are older generally do better in school and end up with better jobs. But the whole point of getting good grades and having a good job is to have something to be proud of, and outperforming kids a year younger than you is nothing to be proud of.

It's easy to forget they're a year younger than you when you're in the same grade.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I understand that kids who are older generally do better in school and end up with better jobs. But the whole point of getting good grades and having a good job is to have something to be proud of, and outperforming kids a year younger than you is nothing to be proud of.

It's easy to forget they're a year younger than you when you're in the same grade.

For my August birthday kid, no one is a year younger. Many of the kids are a few weeks or a few months younger. The youngest kid in the class is a late June birthday, so there is less than a year between the oldest and the youngest.

[Anonymous]

Must we have this argument over and over again? People will always disagree on this topic. I think redshirting is stupid, people who redshirt their kids think they are doing what is right for them and a small portion of those are doing it because they think they've giving their kid an advantage. None of us will be able to change anyone else's mind.

Just let it go, people. Not worth arguing with randos on the internet over.

[Anonymous]

I think the only common reason to redshirt that is valid is if the kid is just too immature and cannot handle the expectations of kindergarten, and needs that extra year to catch up. Agree that the reasons some people redshirt - for sports, to be ahead academically, are dumb. In many cases now, sports are categorizing kids by birth year, and yes, studies show that redshirted kids perform worse academically.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Our kid had adhd and dyslexia. You’re da*n right we red-shirted. They had absolutely no advantage being older in the grade. Struggle, struggle, struggle. But thanks for the derision!

Thanks for making the right choice! Did that extra year really help with getting a diagnosis and working on behaviors? I would never say this in real life, but there are several boys in 2nd grade that I WISH had been redshirted. Would have been better for them and better for their classmates. They are struggling, and it's also affecting the entire grade.

[Anonymous]

Redshirting only matters in two scenarios.

1. A kid on the margins who might get cut but is redshirted and makes a team. A dumb reason to delay a year of social and educational development in my book. More appropriate if other factors also at play (e.g., social or educational struggles).

Not really fair to kids who get cut but the solution should really be just more rec sports especially for older kids and young adults.

2. Uber elite athlete in high school or college strategically planning for D1. Whether it’s worth it or not depends on the kid and his goals. Very small number of people.

Really sporty but not uber elite kids can actually benefit from playing older kids. Think of the kid that makes varsity as a sophomore or something. Many of these kids are chomping at the bit to play up when younger, not get held back.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Our kid had adhd and dyslexia. You’re da*n right we red-shirted. They had absolutely no advantage being older in the grade. Struggle, struggle, struggle. But thanks for the derision!

I don't think OP was thinking about your kid when they posted.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Our kid had adhd and dyslexia. You’re da*n right we red-shirted. They had absolutely no advantage being older in the grade. Struggle, struggle, struggle. But thanks for the derision!

I don't think OP was thinking about your kid when they posted.

DCUMs anti-redshirters are anti-social and hyper-competitive. There is absolutely no question in my mind that OP is thinking about kids like PPs. I’ve watched the casual cruelty of DCUM anti-redshirters too many times over the years. They delight in bullying children.

Also, I didn’t redshirt, although that should not matter.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Our kid had adhd and dyslexia. You’re da*n right we red-shirted. They had absolutely no advantage being older in the grade. Struggle, struggle, struggle. But thanks for the derision!

In that case, what was the point of redshirting?

[Anonymous]

Touch grass dude

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Actually, the more recent research shows the opposite- that kids who are not redshirted do better academically after controlling for all the variables including SES and parental education levels.

Link or it didn’t happen.

Google is your friend.

NP. I am very familiar with all the actual studies on this area and you are lying.

No we aren't. You are looking at studies that only prove your point. Studies are also bias to prove their theory.

lol ok weirdo.

Since you can’t provide a single study citation (the actual study, if you understand what that even means), I don’t think intelligent people will be paying you any mind.

Why don't you research it yourself? Scared of what you may find. Holding your kid back, only dumbs them down and doesn't set them up for the harships in life. Its all about your ego (baring SN)

[Anonymous]

We did redshirt, so that my son has every single advantage he can get. It may not be fair, but you know what else is fair? Life. One year of physical and brain development makes a difference. While his classmates barely do single digit addition his teacher gives him three digit addition worksheets. Since he’s a head above the other kids nobody dares to bully him and he’s bossing the other kids around.

Some sour grape moms with tiny underdeveloped kids make some snide remarks at sports events, but who cares. My son is a star and they are just envious.

The head start is super important. If this is something that matters to you, redshirt your kid. If you didn’t and missed the train, too bad. Stop whining and move on. Do better next time, lol.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We did redshirt, so that my son has every single advantage he can get. It may not be fair, but you know what else is fair? Life. One year of physical and brain development makes a difference. While his classmates barely do single digit addition his teacher gives him three digit addition worksheets. Since he’s a head above the other kids nobody dares to bully him and he’s bossing the other kids around.

Some sour grape moms with tiny underdeveloped kids make some snide remarks at sports events, but who cares. My son is a star and they are just envious.

The head start is super important. If this is something that matters to you, redshirt your kid. If you didn’t and missed the train, too bad. Stop whining and move on. Do better next time, lol.

Adding to this. It absolutely does not cancel the pride factor, I’m still proud of his accomplishments and proud of myself for facilitating it, that’s such a silly question.

The point is not the pride, the point is to give the kid every possible advantage. When he’s grown up and successful nobody will bat an eye that he started kindergarten a year later. Nobody will care that some loser had a hard time early in school because he wasn’t ready. He’s still be seen as a loser.

I get that you probably kick yourself for not redshirting, but tough luck, you’re just a horrible parent that ruined your kids life.