Viral clip: Grocer manager entraps special needs deli worker into stealing $100 worth of chicken tenders & fruit cups

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Anonymous wrote:Yeah it's hard to feel bad because it's always sympathy being given to young men who are autistic- I very rarely see such justifications or excuses given to women who behave badly. I suspect because there are many autistic men online and they can empathize/have sympathy for these kinds of men, but cannot extend it to women. So I'll save my tears until there's uproar evry time a young woman gets caught shoplifting, instead of gleefullness in the comments.

You're despicable.

Try to respond with a substantive address of points, instead of silly personal attacks. I promise it will help you make your case much better.

Start your own pathetic thread or go away. Those are your choices. Stop hijacking the thread about this young man you moron.

No one is hijacking the thread, they are literally addressing the video. You are the only one hijacking the thread because of your inability to tolerate dissenting opinions and repeated hissy fits when someone disagrees with you. You are doing yourself no favors and if you keep it up you'll be reported and banned for thread derailment and spam

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Anonymous wrote:Yeah it's hard to feel bad because it's always sympathy being given to young men who are autistic- I very rarely see such justifications or excuses given to women who behave badly. I suspect because there are many autistic men online and they can empathize/have sympathy for these kinds of men, but cannot extend it to women. So I'll save my tears until there's uproar evry time a young woman gets caught shoplifting, instead of gleefullness in the comments.

You're despicable.

Try to respond with a substantive address of points, instead of silly personal attacks. I promise it will help you make your case much better.

Start your own pathetic thread or go away. Those are your choices. Stop hijacking the thread about this young man you moron.

No one is hijacking the thread, they are literally addressing the video. You are the only one hijacking the thread because of your inability to tolerate dissenting opinions and repeated hissy fits when someone disagrees with you. You are doing yourself no favors and if you keep it up you'll be reported and banned for thread derailment and spam

You're as delusional as you are dumb. In this thread, we are discussing the specifics of what happened to this young man (we don't even know if he is autistic BTW). If you wish to discuss whatever nonsense you keep posting, start your own thread. No one is buying your BS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What happened to employers giving free lunch to teens? My first job was on a golf course in the late 80s and we got a free hot dog or egg salad sandwich, chips, soda and candy bar every afternoon. My teen brothers bagged groceries and got a free deli sandwich with any fixings, sides, and a drink every shift.

I worked in a higher end grocery store in the late 90’s (Ukrops in Richmond) and we did not get free food and also had to pay for our required uniforms.

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Anonymous wrote:What happened to employers giving free lunch to teens? My first job was on a golf course in the late 80s and we got a free hot dog or egg salad sandwich, chips, soda and candy bar every afternoon. My teen brothers bagged groceries and got a free deli sandwich with any fixings, sides, and a drink every shift.

I worked in a higher end grocery store in the late 90’s (Ukrops in Richmond) and we did not get free food and also had to pay for our required uniforms.

I think some offer it and some don't. It doesn't even matter that this business does not. The gross part is them entrapping their own employee instead of just firing him. It's extremely predatory.

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Anonymous wrote:Yeah it's hard to feel bad because it's always sympathy being given to young men who are autistic- I very rarely see such justifications or excuses given to women who behave badly. I suspect because there are many autistic men online and they can empathize/have sympathy for these kinds of men, but cannot extend it to women. So I'll save my tears until there's uproar evry time a young woman gets caught shoplifting, instead of gleefullness in the comments.

You're despicable.

Try to respond with a substantive address of points, instead of silly personal attacks. I promise it will help you make your case much better.

Start your own pathetic thread or go away. Those are your choices. Stop hijacking the thread about this young man you moron.

No one is hijacking the thread, they are literally addressing the video. You are the only one hijacking the thread because of your inability to tolerate dissenting opinions and repeated hissy fits when someone disagrees with you. You are doing yourself no favors and if you keep it up you'll be reported and banned for thread derailment and spam

You're as delusional as you are dumb. In this thread, we are discussing the specifics of what happened to this young man (we don't even know if he is autistic BTW). If you wish to discuss whatever nonsense you keep posting, start your own thread. No one is buying your BS.

Yes and I am giving my reaction to said video and the young man in question, and relating it to a larger cultural context. What on earth is your issue? Why are you taking this so personally? I am perfectly entitled to state my opinion and no amount of inappropriate tantrums from your part is going to stop that. Get over it.

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Anonymous wrote:Yeah it's hard to feel bad because it's always sympathy being given to young men who are autistic- I very rarely see such justifications or excuses given to women who behave badly. I suspect because there are many autistic men online and they can empathize/have sympathy for these kinds of men, but cannot extend it to women. So I'll save my tears until there's uproar evry time a young woman gets caught shoplifting, instead of gleefullness in the comments.

You're despicable.

Try to respond with a substantive address of points, instead of silly personal attacks. I promise it will help you make your case much better.

Start your own pathetic thread or go away. Those are your choices. Stop hijacking the thread about this young man you moron.

No one is hijacking the thread, they are literally addressing the video. You are the only one hijacking the thread because of your inability to tolerate dissenting opinions and repeated hissy fits when someone disagrees with you. You are doing yourself no favors and if you keep it up you'll be reported and banned for thread derailment and spam

You're as delusional as you are dumb. In this thread, we are discussing the specifics of what happened to this young man (we don't even know if he is autistic BTW). If you wish to discuss whatever nonsense you keep posting, start your own thread. No one is buying your BS.

Yes and I am giving my reaction to said video and the young man in question, and relating it to a larger cultural context. What on earth is your issue? Why are you taking this so personally? I am perfectly entitled to state my opinion and no amount of inappropriate tantrums from your part is going to stop that. Get over it.

Because instead of having sympathy for a young man who was clearly mistreated, you are coming here with your own ridiculous agenda and derailing the discussion about the facts of this case and want to talk about whatever BS. You are free to start your own thread. Why haven't you done so already? What's stopping you?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What happened to employers giving free lunch to teens? My first job was on a golf course in the late 80s and we got a free hot dog or egg salad sandwich, chips, soda and candy bar every afternoon. My teen brothers bagged groceries and got a free deli sandwich with any fixings, sides, and a drink every shift.

I worked in a higher end grocery store in the late 90’s (Ukrops in Richmond) and we did not get free food and also had to pay for our required uniforms.

I think some offer it and some don't. It doesn't even matter that this business does not. The gross part is them entrapping their own employee instead of just firing him. It's extremely predatory.

Eh, this kind of thing is standard practice in various companies regardless of whether it's to employees or companies, particularly as states have started having looser/more lenient laws regarding theft (i.e. California considering theft under $950 a minor misdemeanor).

Plenty of such cases of shoplifters getting nabbed at Target and Walmart after they are allowed to rack up large enough debts to constitute a felony and only then do the stores call the police on them. This is really no different.

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Anonymous wrote:What happened to employers giving free lunch to teens? My first job was on a golf course in the late 80s and we got a free hot dog or egg salad sandwich, chips, soda and candy bar every afternoon. My teen brothers bagged groceries and got a free deli sandwich with any fixings, sides, and a drink every shift.

I worked in a higher end grocery store in the late 90’s (Ukrops in Richmond) and we did not get free food and also had to pay for our required uniforms.

I think some offer it and some don't. It doesn't even matter that this business does not. The gross part is them entrapping their own employee instead of just firing him. It's extremely predatory.

Eh, this kind of thing is standard practice in various companies regardless of whether it's to employees or companies, particularly as states have started having looser/more lenient laws regarding theft (i.e. California considering theft under $950 a minor misdemeanor).

Plenty of such cases of shoplifters getting nabbed at Target and Walmart after they are allowed to rack up large enough debts to constitute a felony and only then do the stores call the police on them. This is really no different.

It is very much different. I don't view a person stealing an Xbox at Target to resell on Amazon or whether else the same as a teen stealing a chicken nugget and a fruit cup. But I guess we have a different set of morals.

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Anonymous wrote:What happened to employers giving free lunch to teens? My first job was on a golf course in the late 80s and we got a free hot dog or egg salad sandwich, chips, soda and candy bar every afternoon. My teen brothers bagged groceries and got a free deli sandwich with any fixings, sides, and a drink every shift.

I worked in a higher end grocery store in the late 90’s (Ukrops in Richmond) and we did not get free food and also had to pay for our required uniforms.

I think some offer it and some don't. It doesn't even matter that this business does not. The gross part is them entrapping their own employee instead of just firing him. It's extremely predatory.

Eh, this kind of thing is standard practice in various companies regardless of whether it's to employees or companies, particularly as states have started having looser/more lenient laws regarding theft (i.e. California considering theft under $950 a minor misdemeanor).

Plenty of such cases of shoplifters getting nabbed at Target and Walmart after they are allowed to rack up large enough debts to constitute a felony and only then do the stores call the police on them. This is really no different.

It is very much different. I don't view a person stealing an Xbox at Target to resell on Amazon or whether else the same as a teen stealing a chicken nugget and a fruit cup. But I guess we have a different set of morals.

Oh no, that's exactly the point. These people are committing theft in smaller amounts, not stealing x-boxes or tvs, but rather going to self checkout and deliberately not scamming small-ticket items like food. That's exactly why they have to give them time, because it takes them several visits to rack up enough of a bill worth prosecuting. It may be no big deal to you that someone wants to steal some chicken nuggets, but when lots of people engage in such behavior it absolutely does become a big issue for these businesses.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What happened to employers giving free lunch to teens? My first job was on a golf course in the late 80s and we got a free hot dog or egg salad sandwich, chips, soda and candy bar every afternoon. My teen brothers bagged groceries and got a free deli sandwich with any fixings, sides, and a drink every shift.

I worked in a higher end grocery store in the late 90’s (Ukrops in Richmond) and we did not get free food and also had to pay for our required uniforms.

I think some offer it and some don't. It doesn't even matter that this business does not. The gross part is them entrapping their own employee instead of just firing him. It's extremely predatory.

Eh, this kind of thing is standard practice in various companies regardless of whether it's to employees or companies, particularly as states have started having looser/more lenient laws regarding theft (i.e. California considering theft under $950 a minor misdemeanor).

Plenty of such cases of shoplifters getting nabbed at Target and Walmart after they are allowed to rack up large enough debts to constitute a felony and only then do the stores call the police on them. This is really no different.

It is very much different. I don't view a person stealing an Xbox at Target to resell on Amazon or whether else the same as a teen stealing a chicken nugget and a fruit cup. But I guess we have a different set of morals.

Oh no, that's exactly the point. These people are committing theft in smaller amounts, not stealing x-boxes or tvs, but rather going to self checkout and deliberately not scamming small-ticket items like food. That's exactly why they have to give them time, because it takes them several visits to rack up enough of a bill worth prosecuting. It may be no big deal to you that someone wants to steal some chicken nuggets, but when lots of people engage in such behavior it absolutely does become a big issue for these businesses.

And I don't agree with that either, honestly. Catch them in the act, hire more people to check out customers if theft prevention is a thing. How this ever became the law I have no idea.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What happened to employers giving free lunch to teens? My first job was on a golf course in the late 80s and we got a free hot dog or egg salad sandwich, chips, soda and candy bar every afternoon. My teen brothers bagged groceries and got a free deli sandwich with any fixings, sides, and a drink every shift.

I worked in a higher end grocery store in the late 90’s (Ukrops in Richmond) and we did not get free food and also had to pay for our required uniforms.

I think some offer it and some don't. It doesn't even matter that this business does not. The gross part is them entrapping their own employee instead of just firing him. It's extremely predatory.

Eh, this kind of thing is standard practice in various companies regardless of whether it's to employees or companies, particularly as states have started having looser/more lenient laws regarding theft (i.e. California considering theft under $950 a minor misdemeanor).

Plenty of such cases of shoplifters getting nabbed at Target and Walmart after they are allowed to rack up large enough debts to constitute a felony and only then do the stores call the police on them. This is really no different.

It is very much different. I don't view a person stealing an Xbox at Target to resell on Amazon or whether else the same as a teen stealing a chicken nugget and a fruit cup. But I guess we have a different set of morals.

Oh no, that's exactly the point. These people are committing theft in smaller amounts, not stealing x-boxes or tvs, but rather going to self checkout and deliberately not scamming small-ticket items like food. That's exactly why they have to give them time, because it takes them several visits to rack up enough of a bill worth prosecuting. It may be no big deal to you that someone wants to steal some chicken nuggets, but when lots of people engage in such behavior it absolutely does become a big issue for these businesses.

And I don't agree with that either, honestly. Catch them in the act, hire more people to check out customers if theft prevention is a thing. How this ever became the law I have no idea.

I take it you dont own a business? Letting people steal from you every day just because you feel sorry for them isnt exactly a great business practice

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Anonymous wrote:What happened to employers giving free lunch to teens? My first job was on a golf course in the late 80s and we got a free hot dog or egg salad sandwich, chips, soda and candy bar every afternoon. My teen brothers bagged groceries and got a free deli sandwich with any fixings, sides, and a drink every shift.

I worked in a higher end grocery store in the late 90’s (Ukrops in Richmond) and we did not get free food and also had to pay for our required uniforms.

I think some offer it and some don't. It doesn't even matter that this business does not. The gross part is them entrapping their own employee instead of just firing him. It's extremely predatory.

Eh, this kind of thing is standard practice in various companies regardless of whether it's to employees or companies, particularly as states have started having looser/more lenient laws regarding theft (i.e. California considering theft under $950 a minor misdemeanor).

Plenty of such cases of shoplifters getting nabbed at Target and Walmart after they are allowed to rack up large enough debts to constitute a felony and only then do the stores call the police on them. This is really no different.

It is very much different. I don't view a person stealing an Xbox at Target to resell on Amazon or whether else the same as a teen stealing a chicken nugget and a fruit cup. But I guess we have a different set of morals.

Oh no, that's exactly the point. These people are committing theft in smaller amounts, not stealing x-boxes or tvs, but rather going to self checkout and deliberately not scamming small-ticket items like food. That's exactly why they have to give them time, because it takes them several visits to rack up enough of a bill worth prosecuting. It may be no big deal to you that someone wants to steal some chicken nuggets, but when lots of people engage in such behavior it absolutely does become a big issue for these businesses.

And I don't agree with that either, honestly. Catch them in the act, hire more people to check out customers if theft prevention is a thing. How this ever became the law I have no idea.

I take it you dont own a business? Letting people steal from you every day just because you feel sorry for them isnt exactly a great business practice

Who said I'm ok with anyone stealing from a business? I'm most definitely not. I'm just not ok with entrapping people. Perhaps do better to prevent theft as a business owner and don't take the lazy way out.

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Anonymous wrote:What happened to employers giving free lunch to teens? My first job was on a golf course in the late 80s and we got a free hot dog or egg salad sandwich, chips, soda and candy bar every afternoon. My teen brothers bagged groceries and got a free deli sandwich with any fixings, sides, and a drink every shift.

I worked in a higher end grocery store in the late 90’s (Ukrops in Richmond) and we did not get free food and also had to pay for our required uniforms.

I think some offer it and some don't. It doesn't even matter that this business does not. The gross part is them entrapping their own employee instead of just firing him. It's extremely predatory.

Eh, this kind of thing is standard practice in various companies regardless of whether it's to employees or companies, particularly as states have started having looser/more lenient laws regarding theft (i.e. California considering theft under $950 a minor misdemeanor).

Plenty of such cases of shoplifters getting nabbed at Target and Walmart after they are allowed to rack up large enough debts to constitute a felony and only then do the stores call the police on them. This is really no different.

It is very much different. I don't view a person stealing an Xbox at Target to resell on Amazon or whether else the same as a teen stealing a chicken nugget and a fruit cup. But I guess we have a different set of morals.

Oh no, that's exactly the point. These people are committing theft in smaller amounts, not stealing x-boxes or tvs, but rather going to self checkout and deliberately not scamming small-ticket items like food. That's exactly why they have to give them time, because it takes them several visits to rack up enough of a bill worth prosecuting. It may be no big deal to you that someone wants to steal some chicken nuggets, but when lots of people engage in such behavior it absolutely does become a big issue for these businesses.

And I don't agree with that either, honestly. Catch them in the act, hire more people to check out customers if theft prevention is a thing. How this ever became the law I have no idea.

I take it you dont own a business? Letting people steal from you every day just because you feel sorry for them isnt exactly a great business practice

Who said I'm ok with anyone stealing from a business? I'm most definitely not. I'm just not ok with entrapping people. Perhaps do better to prevent theft as a business owner and don't take the lazy way out.

Not stopping someone from committing a crime is not entrapping them. Learn what words mean.

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Anonymous wrote:What happened to employers giving free lunch to teens? My first job was on a golf course in the late 80s and we got a free hot dog or egg salad sandwich, chips, soda and candy bar every afternoon. My teen brothers bagged groceries and got a free deli sandwich with any fixings, sides, and a drink every shift.

I worked in a higher end grocery store in the late 90’s (Ukrops in Richmond) and we did not get free food and also had to pay for our required uniforms.

I think some offer it and some don't. It doesn't even matter that this business does not. The gross part is them entrapping their own employee instead of just firing him. It's extremely predatory.

Eh, this kind of thing is standard practice in various companies regardless of whether it's to employees or companies, particularly as states have started having looser/more lenient laws regarding theft (i.e. California considering theft under $950 a minor misdemeanor).

Plenty of such cases of shoplifters getting nabbed at Target and Walmart after they are allowed to rack up large enough debts to constitute a felony and only then do the stores call the police on them. This is really no different.

It is very much different. I don't view a person stealing an Xbox at Target to resell on Amazon or whether else the same as a teen stealing a chicken nugget and a fruit cup. But I guess we have a different set of morals.

Oh no, that's exactly the point. These people are committing theft in smaller amounts, not stealing x-boxes or tvs, but rather going to self checkout and deliberately not scamming small-ticket items like food. That's exactly why they have to give them time, because it takes them several visits to rack up enough of a bill worth prosecuting. It may be no big deal to you that someone wants to steal some chicken nuggets, but when lots of people engage in such behavior it absolutely does become a big issue for these businesses.

And I don't agree with that either, honestly. Catch them in the act, hire more people to check out customers if theft prevention is a thing. How this ever became the law I have no idea.

I take it you dont own a business? Letting people steal from you every day just because you feel sorry for them isnt exactly a great business practice

Who said I'm ok with anyone stealing from a business? I'm most definitely not. I'm just not ok with entrapping people. Perhaps do better to prevent theft as a business owner and don't take the lazy way out.

Not stopping someone from committing a crime is not entrapping them. Learn what words mean.

It may not pass the entrapment test but it is predatory and lazy. You are allowing people to steal from you so that they can get bigger fines and sentences. Stealing is illegal and this practice should be too. Prosecute the offenders immediately.

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Anonymous wrote:What happened to employers giving free lunch to teens? My first job was on a golf course in the late 80s and we got a free hot dog or egg salad sandwich, chips, soda and candy bar every afternoon. My teen brothers bagged groceries and got a free deli sandwich with any fixings, sides, and a drink every shift.

I worked in a higher end grocery store in the late 90’s (Ukrops in Richmond) and we did not get free food and also had to pay for our required uniforms.

I think some offer it and some don't. It doesn't even matter that this business does not. The gross part is them entrapping their own employee instead of just firing him. It's extremely predatory.

Eh, this kind of thing is standard practice in various companies regardless of whether it's to employees or companies, particularly as states have started having looser/more lenient laws regarding theft (i.e. California considering theft under $950 a minor misdemeanor).

Plenty of such cases of shoplifters getting nabbed at Target and Walmart after they are allowed to rack up large enough debts to constitute a felony and only then do the stores call the police on them. This is really no different.

It is very much different. I don't view a person stealing an Xbox at Target to resell on Amazon or whether else the same as a teen stealing a chicken nugget and a fruit cup. But I guess we have a different set of morals.

Oh no, that's exactly the point. These people are committing theft in smaller amounts, not stealing x-boxes or tvs, but rather going to self checkout and deliberately not scamming small-ticket items like food. That's exactly why they have to give them time, because it takes them several visits to rack up enough of a bill worth prosecuting. It may be no big deal to you that someone wants to steal some chicken nuggets, but when lots of people engage in such behavior it absolutely does become a big issue for these businesses.

And I don't agree with that either, honestly. Catch them in the act, hire more people to check out customers if theft prevention is a thing. How this ever became the law I have no idea.

I take it you dont own a business? Letting people steal from you every day just because you feel sorry for them isnt exactly a great business practice

Who said I'm ok with anyone stealing from a business? I'm most definitely not. I'm just not ok with entrapping people. Perhaps do better to prevent theft as a business owner and don't take the lazy way out.

Not stopping someone from committing a crime is not entrapping them. Learn what words mean.

It may not pass the entrapment test but it is predatory and lazy. You are allowing people to steal from you so that they can get bigger fines and sentences. Stealing is illegal and this practice should be too. Prosecute the offenders immediately.

So you think it would be better if they prosecute everyone who say, misses one item while theyre using self checkout, no matter how small? In many ways, waiting until the amount is substantive prevents prosecution until there is a demonstrated history of repeated shoplifting, and is arguably much more moral on the part of the company.