Viral clip: Grocer manager entraps special needs deli worker into stealing $100 worth of chicken tenders & fruit cups

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Anonymous wrote:Stealing is stealing. How you feel if he stole $1000 from your pocket book?

You are just as disgusting as this poor excuse of a human who was his manager. A normal, decent human being would have told this kid after the first time that he is not allowed to steal. An even better human being would have bought the kid his lunch. Only an evil person waits in waiting for a month for a hungry kid to steal enough food so the charges can be higher.

Also, he didn’t steal $1000 from anyone, he stole some of the cheapest food they have. If you can’t see the difference there is zero hope for you. May yoh be hungry enough one day to confer stealing a chicken nugget and a fruit cup.

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Ok, you're being absurd.

You think the manager should be responsible for buying his employee lunch every day? Should he do that for EVERY employee? That would literally exceed his salary.

"Hungry kid?" You think this kid is chronically hungry? Or just gets hungry around lunch time the way every human does?

God forbid you buy a meal for a hungry person!!!!! RIGHT.

No one is making the manager responsible. I said a better human being would feed a hungry kid. Clearly, that went right over your head. Just don't worry about it.

I fault corporate, the greedy Republican Meijer family, all the store management involved, and the cop. Cops should refuse to respond to such bullshit calls. If anything, the kid should just be driven home by the cop. Arresting him and booking him for chicken tenders and fruit cups? Insane. Making it more tear-jerking, the boy remained polite and cordial the entire time. ;(

Are you insane? The police don’t just get to subjectively pick and choose which calls they want to deem “bullshit”. Do you really want to go there? If so, which scenario in which you were victimized would you be willing to sacrifice justice?

Police and sheriffs have discretion to enforce or not enforce anything they want. You’ve never gotten a warning for speeding, expired plates, not having your insurance paperwork on you? Never had a party busted and the cops just make underage kids dump the booze out but don’t arrest and book anyone for underage intoxication and possession? You’re one of those bootlickers who thinks the police are just doing their jobs. No. This cop and his sergeant are paid $100,000+ each and this is a bullshit waste of time and taxpayer dollars.

Speeding tickets are civil infractions. Finding a kid drinking underage and letting them go with a warning is different than someone calling the police to press charges because a teen came into their home and stole their alcohol. The difference is another person is involved—the victim. If the person tells the police they want to press charges, the police officer’s hands are tied. If a retail business calls the police and says they want to press charges, the police have to take the report and follow the procedure.

I can tell you firsthand that we do try to dissuade people from doing this because it is a lot of paperwork and hassle, and because most people don’t actually want justice, especially in situations like a teen stealing alcohol from a residence, they just want to make that person’s life difficult while not having it affect them, but it doesn’t work that way. We explain that they WILL have to show up to subsequent court proceedings if they choose to go forward with pressing charges. Sometimes they back down, sometimes they don’t. But retail conglomerates have lawyers of their own and the time and money to proceed, and it is their right.

With that said, I think these managers are complete jerks and deserve to be called out. But as far as whether or not the police officer in this situation could have just walked away? No, he couldn’t, and you shouldn’t want him to. The third party victim changes everything, and the officer’s hands are tied.

There is absolutely zero procedural need for an officer to place cuffs on and book a non-violent subject for ALLEGEDLY $100 worth of chicken tenders and fruit cups over two months time. For such a petty larceny the officer can issue him a paper misdemeanor civil infraction or summons and offer to drive him home. The cop was complicit in this evil and demoralizing scheme.

It depends on the jurisdiction but some department procedures require cuffing anyone who will be placed in a police car. This is the case in my jurisdiction. In my jurisdiction, we also aren’t allowed to drive people home if they live outside of our city. I don’t know the specifics of this case and I also can’t speak on what the penal codes are in Ohio or the departmental procedures in this city. But clearly the manager knows he waited long enough for the crime to be deemed arrest-able, and that’a what the police did.

Okay. Issue him a paper misdemeanor and let him walk home.

Yeah, why didn't he get a ticket and walk home? Why the whole book him at the station?

Because store management receive de facto bonuses and promotions for this and the Meijer family wants to strike fear in all the peasants who work there seeing a colleague dehumanized and his life turned upside down for petty theft. And the police force and city hall's salary and fringe is paid by a Meijer store's income and property taxes.

I don’t disagree with your sentiments on the Meijer manager, but you’re really reaching. We would arrest the same way if the person stole from a mom and pop store. (City council does love to stroke these big taxpayers’ junk, though, that’s no lie. But they don’t charm us (the police.))

Half my family are LEOs, you putz. But I'm glad you get to post all day on a message and sit back on your ass collecting a pension after arresting proles for petty theft for 20 years. Only in America, huh.

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Anonymous wrote:Stealing is stealing. How you feel if he stole $1000 from your pocket book?

You are just as disgusting as this poor excuse of a human who was his manager. A normal, decent human being would have told this kid after the first time that he is not allowed to steal. An even better human being would have bought the kid his lunch. Only an evil person waits in waiting for a month for a hungry kid to steal enough food so the charges can be higher.

Also, he didn’t steal $1000 from anyone, he stole some of the cheapest food they have. If you can’t see the difference there is zero hope for you. May yoh be hungry enough one day to confer stealing a chicken nugget and a fruit cup.

Different poster than the one you are quoting here.
Ok, you're being absurd.

You think the manager should be responsible for buying his employee lunch every day? Should he do that for EVERY employee? That would literally exceed his salary.

"Hungry kid?" You think this kid is chronically hungry? Or just gets hungry around lunch time the way every human does?

God forbid you buy a meal for a hungry person!!!!! RIGHT.

No one is making the manager responsible. I said a better human being would feed a hungry kid. Clearly, that went right over your head. Just don't worry about it.

I fault corporate, the greedy Republican Meijer family, all the store management involved, and the cop. Cops should refuse to respond to such bullshit calls. If anything, the kid should just be driven home by the cop. Arresting him and booking him for chicken tenders and fruit cups? Insane. Making it more tear-jerking, the boy remained polite and cordial the entire time. ;(

Are you insane? The police don’t just get to subjectively pick and choose which calls they want to deem “bullshit”. Do you really want to go there? If so, which scenario in which you were victimized would you be willing to sacrifice justice?

Police and sheriffs have discretion to enforce or not enforce anything they want. You’ve never gotten a warning for speeding, expired plates, not having your insurance paperwork on you? Never had a party busted and the cops just make underage kids dump the booze out but don’t arrest and book anyone for underage intoxication and possession? You’re one of those bootlickers who thinks the police are just doing their jobs. No. This cop and his sergeant are paid $100,000+ each and this is a bullshit waste of time and taxpayer dollars.

Speeding tickets are civil infractions. Finding a kid drinking underage and letting them go with a warning is different than someone calling the police to press charges because a teen came into their home and stole their alcohol. The difference is another person is involved—the victim. If the person tells the police they want to press charges, the police officer’s hands are tied. If a retail business calls the police and says they want to press charges, the police have to take the report and follow the procedure.

I can tell you firsthand that we do try to dissuade people from doing this because it is a lot of paperwork and hassle, and because most people don’t actually want justice, especially in situations like a teen stealing alcohol from a residence, they just want to make that person’s life difficult while not having it affect them, but it doesn’t work that way. We explain that they WILL have to show up to subsequent court proceedings if they choose to go forward with pressing charges. Sometimes they back down, sometimes they don’t. But retail conglomerates have lawyers of their own and the time and money to proceed, and it is their right.

With that said, I think these managers are complete jerks and deserve to be called out. But as far as whether or not the police officer in this situation could have just walked away? No, he couldn’t, and you shouldn’t want him to. The third party victim changes everything, and the officer’s hands are tied.

There is absolutely zero procedural need for an officer to place cuffs on and book a non-violent subject for ALLEGEDLY $100 worth of chicken tenders and fruit cups over two months time. For such a petty larceny the officer can issue him a paper misdemeanor civil infraction or summons and offer to drive him home. The cop was complicit in this evil and demoralizing scheme.

It depends on the jurisdiction but some department procedures require cuffing anyone who will be placed in a police car. This is the case in my jurisdiction. In my jurisdiction, we also aren’t allowed to drive people home if they live outside of our city. I don’t know the specifics of this case and I also can’t speak on what the penal codes are in Ohio or the departmental procedures in this city. But clearly the manager knows he waited long enough for the crime to be deemed arrest-able, and that’a what the police did.

Okay. Issue him a paper misdemeanor and let him walk home.

Yeah, why didn't he get a ticket and walk home? Why the whole book him at the station?

Because store management receive de facto bonuses and promotions for this and the Meijer family wants to strike fear in all the peasants who work there seeing a colleague dehumanized and his life turned upside down for petty theft. And the police force and city hall's salary and fringe is paid by a Meijer store's income and property taxes.

I don’t disagree with your sentiments on the Meijer manager, but you’re really reaching. We would arrest the same way if the person stole from a mom and pop store. (City council does love to stroke these big taxpayers’ junk, though, that’s no lie. But they don’t charm us (the police.))

Half my family are LEOs, you putz. But I'm glad you get to post all day on a message and sit back on your ass collecting a pension after arresting proles for petty theft for 20 years. Only in America, huh.

You don’t get a day off?

I do my job, that’s it. You think I like responding to ridiculous crap like petty retail theft? Go ask your family and they’ll tell you all about how “fun” retail theft is. No police officer is gleefully skipping to those calls, they are the effing worst waste of time. This one takes the cake. But alas, I have a job to do.

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Anonymous wrote:Stealing is stealing. How you feel if he stole $1000 from your pocket book?

You are just as disgusting as this poor excuse of a human who was his manager. A normal, decent human being would have told this kid after the first time that he is not allowed to steal. An even better human being would have bought the kid his lunch. Only an evil person waits in waiting for a month for a hungry kid to steal enough food so the charges can be higher.

Also, he didn’t steal $1000 from anyone, he stole some of the cheapest food they have. If you can’t see the difference there is zero hope for you. May yoh be hungry enough one day to confer stealing a chicken nugget and a fruit cup.

Different poster than the one you are quoting here.
Ok, you're being absurd.

You think the manager should be responsible for buying his employee lunch every day? Should he do that for EVERY employee? That would literally exceed his salary.

"Hungry kid?" You think this kid is chronically hungry? Or just gets hungry around lunch time the way every human does?

God forbid you buy a meal for a hungry person!!!!! RIGHT.

No one is making the manager responsible. I said a better human being would feed a hungry kid. Clearly, that went right over your head. Just don't worry about it.

I fault corporate, the greedy Republican Meijer family, all the store management involved, and the cop. Cops should refuse to respond to such bullshit calls. If anything, the kid should just be driven home by the cop. Arresting him and booking him for chicken tenders and fruit cups? Insane. Making it more tear-jerking, the boy remained polite and cordial the entire time. ;(

Are you insane? The police don’t just get to subjectively pick and choose which calls they want to deem “bullshit”. Do you really want to go there? If so, which scenario in which you were victimized would you be willing to sacrifice justice?

Police and sheriffs have discretion to enforce or not enforce anything they want. You’ve never gotten a warning for speeding, expired plates, not having your insurance paperwork on you? Never had a party busted and the cops just make underage kids dump the booze out but don’t arrest and book anyone for underage intoxication and possession? You’re one of those bootlickers who thinks the police are just doing their jobs. No. This cop and his sergeant are paid $100,000+ each and this is a bullshit waste of time and taxpayer dollars.

Speeding tickets are civil infractions. Finding a kid drinking underage and letting them go with a warning is different than someone calling the police to press charges because a teen came into their home and stole their alcohol. The difference is another person is involved—the victim. If the person tells the police they want to press charges, the police officer’s hands are tied. If a retail business calls the police and says they want to press charges, the police have to take the report and follow the procedure.

I can tell you firsthand that we do try to dissuade people from doing this because it is a lot of paperwork and hassle, and because most people don’t actually want justice, especially in situations like a teen stealing alcohol from a residence, they just want to make that person’s life difficult while not having it affect them, but it doesn’t work that way. We explain that they WILL have to show up to subsequent court proceedings if they choose to go forward with pressing charges. Sometimes they back down, sometimes they don’t. But retail conglomerates have lawyers of their own and the time and money to proceed, and it is their right.

With that said, I think these managers are complete jerks and deserve to be called out. But as far as whether or not the police officer in this situation could have just walked away? No, he couldn’t, and you shouldn’t want him to. The third party victim changes everything, and the officer’s hands are tied.

There is absolutely zero procedural need for an officer to place cuffs on and book a non-violent subject for ALLEGEDLY $100 worth of chicken tenders and fruit cups over two months time. For such a petty larceny the officer can issue him a paper misdemeanor civil infraction or summons and offer to drive him home. The cop was complicit in this evil and demoralizing scheme.

It depends on the jurisdiction but some department procedures require cuffing anyone who will be placed in a police car. This is the case in my jurisdiction. In my jurisdiction, we also aren’t allowed to drive people home if they live outside of our city. I don’t know the specifics of this case and I also can’t speak on what the penal codes are in Ohio or the departmental procedures in this city. But clearly the manager knows he waited long enough for the crime to be deemed arrest-able, and that’a what the police did.

Okay. Issue him a paper misdemeanor and let him walk home.

Yeah, why didn't he get a ticket and walk home? Why the whole book him at the station?

Because store management receive de facto bonuses and promotions for this and the Meijer family wants to strike fear in all the peasants who work there seeing a colleague dehumanized and his life turned upside down for petty theft. And the police force and city hall's salary and fringe is paid by a Meijer store's income and property taxes.

I don’t disagree with your sentiments on the Meijer manager, but you’re really reaching. We would arrest the same way if the person stole from a mom and pop store. (City council does love to stroke these big taxpayers’ junk, though, that’s no lie. But they don’t charm us (the police.))

Half my family are LEOs, you putz. But I'm glad you get to post all day on a message and sit back on your ass collecting a pension after arresting proles for petty theft for 20 years. Only in America, huh.

Maybe you should get back to work, too?

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Store is in a small town south of Cleveland. Appears to be a safe and nice middle class community. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_Hills,_Ohio

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Anonymous wrote:Is the Meijer family not stealing from the state and federal government when most of their employees qualify for welfare because they're paid peanuts and/or their hours are purposely limited to prevent full-time, overtime, and fringe benefits? That's a bit more sophisticated than a teen deli worker munching on chicken tendies and fruit cups for lunch.

What? No.

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Anonymous wrote:Stealing is stealing. How you feel if he stole $1000 from your pocket book?

You are just as disgusting as this poor excuse of a human who was his manager. A normal, decent human being would have told this kid after the first time that he is not allowed to steal. An even better human being would have bought the kid his lunch. Only an evil person waits in waiting for a month for a hungry kid to steal enough food so the charges can be higher.

Also, he didn’t steal $1000 from anyone, he stole some of the cheapest food they have. If you can’t see the difference there is zero hope for you. May yoh be hungry enough one day to confer stealing a chicken nugget and a fruit cup.

Different poster than the one you are quoting here.
Ok, you're being absurd.

You think the manager should be responsible for buying his employee lunch every day? Should he do that for EVERY employee? That would literally exceed his salary.

"Hungry kid?" You think this kid is chronically hungry? Or just gets hungry around lunch time the way every human does?

God forbid you buy a meal for a hungry person!!!!! RIGHT.

No one is making the manager responsible. I said a better human being would feed a hungry kid. Clearly, that went right over your head. Just don't worry about it.

I fault corporate, the greedy Republican Meijer family, all the store management involved, and the cop. Cops should refuse to respond to such bullshit calls. If anything, the kid should just be driven home by the cop. Arresting him and booking him for chicken tenders and fruit cups? Insane. Making it more tear-jerking, the boy remained polite and cordial the entire time. ;(

Are you insane? The police don’t just get to subjectively pick and choose which calls they want to deem “bullshit”. Do you really want to go there? If so, which scenario in which you were victimized would you be willing to sacrifice justice?

Police and sheriffs have discretion to enforce or not enforce anything they want. You’ve never gotten a warning for speeding, expired plates, not having your insurance paperwork on you? Never had a party busted and the cops just make underage kids dump the booze out but don’t arrest and book anyone for underage intoxication and possession? You’re one of those bootlickers who thinks the police are just doing their jobs. No. This cop and his sergeant are paid $100,000+ each and this is a bullshit waste of time and taxpayer dollars.

Speeding tickets are civil infractions. Finding a kid drinking underage and letting them go with a warning is different than someone calling the police to press charges because a teen came into their home and stole their alcohol. The difference is another person is involved—the victim. If the person tells the police they want to press charges, the police officer’s hands are tied. If a retail business calls the police and says they want to press charges, the police have to take the report and follow the procedure.

I can tell you firsthand that we do try to dissuade people from doing this because it is a lot of paperwork and hassle, and because most people don’t actually want justice, especially in situations like a teen stealing alcohol from a residence, they just want to make that person’s life difficult while not having it affect them, but it doesn’t work that way. We explain that they WILL have to show up to subsequent court proceedings if they choose to go forward with pressing charges. Sometimes they back down, sometimes they don’t. But retail conglomerates have lawyers of their own and the time and money to proceed, and it is their right.

With that said, I think these managers are complete jerks and deserve to be called out. But as far as whether or not the police officer in this situation could have just walked away? No, he couldn’t, and you shouldn’t want him to. The third party victim changes everything, and the officer’s hands are tied.

There is absolutely zero procedural need for an officer to place cuffs on and book a non-violent subject for ALLEGEDLY $100 worth of chicken tenders and fruit cups over two months time. For such a petty larceny the officer can issue him a paper misdemeanor civil infraction or summons and offer to drive him home. The cop was complicit in this evil and demoralizing scheme.

It depends on the jurisdiction but some department procedures require cuffing anyone who will be placed in a police car. This is the case in my jurisdiction. In my jurisdiction, we also aren’t allowed to drive people home if they live outside of our city. I don’t know the specifics of this case and I also can’t speak on what the penal codes are in Ohio or the departmental procedures in this city. But clearly the manager knows he waited long enough for the crime to be deemed arrest-able, and that’a what the police did.

Okay. Issue him a paper misdemeanor and let him walk home.

Yeah, why didn't he get a ticket and walk home? Why the whole book him at the station?

Because store management receive de facto bonuses and promotions for this and the Meijer family wants to strike fear in all the peasants who work there seeing a colleague dehumanized and his life turned upside down for petty theft. And the police force and city hall's salary and fringe is paid by a Meijer store's income and property taxes.

I don’t disagree with your sentiments on the Meijer manager, but you’re really reaching. We would arrest the same way if the person stole from a mom and pop store. (City council does love to stroke these big taxpayers’ junk, though, that’s no lie. But they don’t charm us (the police.))

Half my family are LEOs, you putz. But I'm glad you get to post all day on a message and sit back on your ass collecting a pension after arresting proles for petty theft for 20 years. Only in America, huh.

Are they local LEO's? Could they please start pulling people over for running red lights, reckless driving, speeding, driving with no headlights on, and aggressive driving? You know things that save lives? Thanks.

https://www.dmv.virginia.gov/sites/default/files/documents/VA-traffic-crash-2023.pdf

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Anonymous wrote:The manager saw him eat the food 10 times and never said it was wrong. That's consent. No theft occurred.

The manager intentionally let food go to waste. The manager stole from Meijer.

This. If you are a landlord and accept late rent 9x you can’t charge a late fee the 10th. You’ve set a precedent. It won’t hold up if challenged.

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Brought to you by the faux bible thumpers of west Michigan. Devos and Meijer clans are thick as thieves.

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The managers look so smug in the video, too.

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So, I watched the whole footage that was shared and the cop was pretty empathetic with the young man.

The young man states that he was warned that he was taking too long on breaks and sometimes didn't have his wallet, sometimes didn't pay, was going to pay and forget. The cop told him that he really shouldn't say anything else to him about it.

Doesn't seem to me to be completely dumbstruck by the fact that he needed to pay for his food.

Should this gotten to an arrest? IMO, no. The manager should have sat the employee down and said, "Well James, we warned you about returning late from breaks and now we see that you have been taking food without paying.

I'm sorry, but we have to let you go. We'll deduct the food cost from your last paycheck. Best of luck."

Simple, no police involved. Silly waste of time for the cop.

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Yeah it's hard to feel bad because it's always sympathy being given to young men who are autistic- I very rarely see such justifications or excuses given to women who behave badly. I suspect because there are many autistic men online and they can empathize/have sympathy for these kinds of men, but cannot extend it to women. So I'll save my tears until there's uproar evry time a young woman gets caught shoplifting, instead of gleefullness in the comments.

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Anonymous wrote:So, I watched the whole footage that was shared and the cop was pretty empathetic with the young man.

The young man states that he was warned that he was taking too long on breaks and sometimes didn't have his wallet, sometimes didn't pay, was going to pay and forget. The cop told him that he really shouldn't say anything else to him about it.

Doesn't seem to me to be completely dumbstruck by the fact that he needed to pay for his food.

Should this gotten to an arrest? IMO, no. The manager should have sat the employee down and said, "Well James, we warned you about returning late from breaks and now we see that you have been taking food without paying.

I'm sorry, but we have to let you go. We'll deduct the food cost from your last paycheck. Best of luck."

Simple, no police involved. Silly waste of time for the cop.

I agree completely. I wonder if this is their policy? But it would seem it would take a long time to rack up $100 worth of chicken wings. Why didn’t they confront him sooner?

Either way, I don’t see what the officer did wrong, to be honest. It seems like he’s trying his best to make the entire thing as painless as possible, and he is very reassuring.

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Anonymous wrote:Yeah it's hard to feel bad because it's always sympathy being given to young men who are autistic- I very rarely see such justifications or excuses given to women who behave badly. I suspect because there are many autistic men online and they can empathize/have sympathy for these kinds of men, but cannot extend it to women. So I'll save my tears until there's uproar evry time a young woman gets caught shoplifting, instead of gleefullness in the comments.

You're despicable.

Try to respond with a substantive address of points, instead of silly personal attacks. I promise it will help you make your case much better.

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Anonymous wrote:Yeah it's hard to feel bad because it's always sympathy being given to young men who are autistic- I very rarely see such justifications or excuses given to women who behave badly. I suspect because there are many autistic men online and they can empathize/have sympathy for these kinds of men, but cannot extend it to women. So I'll save my tears until there's uproar evry time a young woman gets caught shoplifting, instead of gleefullness in the comments.

You're despicable.

Try to respond with a substantive address of points, instead of silly personal attacks. I promise it will help you make your case much better.

Start your own pathetic thread or go away. Those are your choices. Stop hijacking the thread about this young man you moron.