The MAGA and Republican bubble

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Anonymous wrote:These people are living in a bubble. They only consume information that supports their beliefs. No facts can sway them. Sadly they represent large communities so the bubble is very large. In this bubble, Trump is smart, tariffs are good, firing Government workers is OK, and Putin is favored over their own fellow Americans, who are Democrats.

Nothing can burst their bubble as it is so comfortable to have a community that agrees with all of your views. It does not challenge you.

We as a society could have inoculated many MAGAs decades ago when those communities were asking for help. Instead Democrats told those poor white rural people to check their privilege. So those people got fed up and clung to a cult leader.

You simply cannot expect demoralized communities to think sanely. Democrats pity the demoralized brown communities but hate the demoralized white communities.

I’ve never understood the argument that the Democratic party is pro-worker. They are pro-union, hut how many workers are part of unions? Clinton is the President who screwed blue collar workers out of good manufacturing jobs by signing NAFTA and Permanent Normal Trade Relations with China. It was Biden who allowed millions of illegals to pour into the country and depress working class wages. The Democratic Party is anti-working class, imo. They neither push economic policies that benefit the working class voter nor speak the came cultural language as the working class.

Clinton didn’t negotiate NAFTA, republicans did. Biden wasn’t the only president to allow amnesty it started under Reagan.

Can you name one concrete economic policy put forth by republicans that benefited the working class?

DP. None, of course. The Republicans don’t help the working class. But the Democrats don’t either, while pretending they do.

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Anonymous wrote:These people are living in a bubble. They only consume information that supports their beliefs. No facts can sway them. Sadly they represent large communities so the bubble is very large. In this bubble, Trump is smart, tariffs are good, firing Government workers is OK, and Putin is favored over their own fellow Americans, who are Democrats.

Nothing can burst their bubble as it is so comfortable to have a community that agrees with all of your views. It does not challenge you.

We as a society could have inoculated many MAGAs decades ago when those communities were asking for help. Instead Democrats told those poor white rural people to check their privilege. So those people got fed up and clung to a cult leader.

You simply cannot expect demoralized communities to think sanely. Democrats pity the demoralized brown communities but hate the demoralized white communities.

I’ve never understood the argument that the Democratic party is pro-worker. They are pro-union, hut how many workers are part of unions? Clinton is the President who screwed blue collar workers out of good manufacturing jobs by signing NAFTA and Permanent Normal Trade Relations with China. It was Biden who allowed millions of illegals to pour into the country and depress working class wages. The Democratic Party is anti-working class, imo. They neither push economic policies that benefit the working class voter nor speak the came cultural language as the working class.

Clinton didn’t negotiate NAFTA, republicans did. Biden wasn’t the only president to allow amnesty it started under Reagan.

Can you name one concrete economic policy put forth by republicans that benefited the working class?

DP. None, of course. The Republicans don’t help the working class. But the Democrats don’t either, while pretending they do.

So you don’t believe funding school lunches, Medicaid and other social welfare programs help the middle class?

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Anonymous wrote:These people are living in a bubble. They only consume information that supports their beliefs. No facts can sway them. Sadly they represent large communities so the bubble is very large. In this bubble, Trump is smart, tariffs are good, firing Government workers is OK, and Putin is favored over their own fellow Americans, who are Democrats.

Nothing can burst their bubble as it is so comfortable to have a community that agrees with all of your views. It does not challenge you.

You got things flipped

The bubble is the inside the beltway crowd and the McLean/bethesda urban elites

The servants are revolting and they can’t figure out what is going on

But the McLean/Bethesda "urban elites" aren't the ones who will suffer.

I’m not the PP but my God the DCUM bubble is strong.

You do not understand. The jobless, underemployed working class men of all races who voted Trump into office are already suffering. They were suffering under Biden. They suffered under Trump v1. They suffered under Obama.

They’ve reached the “smash it all up stage” because they do not have any hope. And of course McLean/Bethesda elites suffer if the stock market is destroyed. How could they not? They’ll lose value in their market holdings.

My guess is that if you polled that group, Trump’s favorability ratings under the tariffs have gone up, not down. What do they care if the stock market is destroyed? Their lives are already miserable.

DCUM Democrats struggle to understand that Trump represents a class struggle moment, in which DCUM Democrats are seen as the bad guys.

Maybe these men wouldn’t have needed up in this situation if they had gotten a damn education or been willing to relocate for a job. Instead they were the types who goofed off in high school and made fun of people who studied hard. No one owes you a well paying job in the small town you grew up in. Smart people know you get an education and move to where the opportunity is. It’s the ultimate entitlement to think someone should bring opportunities to you. Times change and you adapt or get left behind. Screw them.

This!!!
It is the height of privilege to be whining about the loss of manufacturing jobs for half a century. Hollywood spent a lot of time dwelling on the costs of the decline of steel and factory jobs in the 80s. The country mourned with Hollywood and moved on. Time for these young men to focus on being serious and responsible.

This attitude is exactly why we have huge populations of angry and disaffected people. Increases in overdoses and deaths of despair. Senseless violence. Criminality. Just a general breakdown of the social contract.

We have to stop with the rugged individualism. We need to remember what it is to be a community and to take care of each other. Our response to folks telling us they are struggling cannot be "screw you." That's literally how we got Trump.

Everyone is struggling. Most people want to do their best. But hurt people hurt people. People with no hope do not make good long term decisions. People whose needs aren't met begin to hate anyone they see as competition for resources.

This is why MAGA works. If we stop looking down on these people with derision, listen to their struggles and address them, they'd be far less angry and fearful. You can't just say "screw you" to entire populations of people and expect it not to eventually affect everyone.

People who are economically disaffected belong in the Democratic Party. That is the party that actually cares about people who have been sidelined.

Democrats are for the people, and Republicans are for big business.

No. Democrats SAY they are for the people. At the end of the day, they are just as in bed with moneyed interests as Republicans. They serve as a pressure release for opposition to the wealthy class, paying lipservice and doing symbolic acts. But when is the last time anything Democrats did that actually helped you or anyone you know? And if you say the freaking ACA, I'll remind you that that legislation is 15 years old now and a shell of the original vision. They've campaigning on a $15 minimum wage most of my life, yet it never materializes and is a goal a decade out of date.

Uh, Infrastructure Act which provides jobs and makes it so people can get to work easier, so our ports work more efficiently etc, CHIPS Act which brings manufacturing jobs back to the US, drug price reduction, support of unions and collective bargaining, clean air and clean water, etc. Plenty the Democrats have concretely done for every American but specifically working class Americans.

Were you or anyone you actually know impacted by the CHIPS act? Or the infrastructure bill? They literally undercut the rail workers and their strike. Showing up to a picket line is mere theatrics when you also used the office to bar workers from using their right to strike.

My point is that, yes Democrats claim many legislative victories, but who the hell actually benefits? Not me. Not anyone I know. I'd wager, not you or anyone you know. Odd isn't it? It's theater. And the sooner folks like you get your head out of your ass and see it, the sooner we can begin applying the pressure necessary to get them to ACTUALLY do something that would help real people, and not just talk a big game.

We know Republicans don't help anyone. But Democrats don't either. They play pretend. They wear Kente cloth and take a knee while giving police forces even more money. They show up for photo ops at picket lines and protests, then turn around and hand Republicans the power to cut social security. They vote to approve appointees who are entirely unqualified and who have made their intend to destroy the very agencies they head quite plain. They rail against billionaires meddling in government the turn around and have private meetings and fundraisers with them.

This has to stop. Take off your team jersey and really LOOK at what is happening. MAGA is absolutely a cult, but they aren't the only ones falling victim to propaganda.

There is no evidence that the CHIPS Act or Infrastructure bill "undercut rail workers" - let alone "literally" so.

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Do you live in a bubble?
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/economy/do-you-live-in-a-bubble-a-quiz-2

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Anonymous wrote:A big part of it is Fox " news" and its shameful lack of coverage of major eevens that might be unfavorable to Trump. Nothing on the stock market crash due to Liberation Day. Stock ticker removed from their site! Nothing today on the Hands Off protests across the country. SMH.

Never understood why the Dems haven't made a villian of Rupert Murdoch. He is such any easy target. Literally an Australian billionaire is controlling what news Americans see, yet most Americans don't even know his name.

The democrats should always call it 'Rupert Murdoch's fox news'. They need to stop playing nice. The Republican politicians will never like you!

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Anonymous wrote:These people are living in a bubble. They only consume information that supports their beliefs. No facts can sway them. Sadly they represent large communities so the bubble is very large. In this bubble, Trump is smart, tariffs are good, firing Government workers is OK, and Putin is favored over their own fellow Americans, who are Democrats.

Nothing can burst their bubble as it is so comfortable to have a community that agrees with all of your views. It does not challenge you.

You got things flipped

The bubble is the inside the beltway crowd and the McLean/bethesda urban elites

The servants are revolting and they can’t figure out what is going on

But the McLean/Bethesda "urban elites" aren't the ones who will suffer.

I’m not the PP but my God the DCUM bubble is strong.

You do not understand. The jobless, underemployed working class men of all races who voted Trump into office are already suffering. They were suffering under Biden. They suffered under Trump v1. They suffered under Obama.

They’ve reached the “smash it all up stage” because they do not have any hope. And of course McLean/Bethesda elites suffer if the stock market is destroyed. How could they not? They’ll lose value in their market holdings.

My guess is that if you polled that group, Trump’s favorability ratings under the tariffs have gone up, not down. What do they care if the stock market is destroyed? Their lives are already miserable.

DCUM Democrats struggle to understand that Trump represents a class struggle moment, in which DCUM Democrats are seen as the bad guys.

Maybe these men wouldn’t have needed up in this situation if they had gotten a damn education or been willing to relocate for a job. Instead they were the types who goofed off in high school and made fun of people who studied hard. No one owes you a well paying job in the small town you grew up in. Smart people know you get an education and move to where the opportunity is. It’s the ultimate entitlement to think someone should bring opportunities to you. Times change and you adapt or get left behind. Screw them.

This!!!
It is the height of privilege to be whining about the loss of manufacturing jobs for half a century. Hollywood spent a lot of time dwelling on the costs of the decline of steel and factory jobs in the 80s. The country mourned with Hollywood and moved on. Time for these young men to focus on being serious and responsible.

This attitude is exactly why we have huge populations of angry and disaffected people. Increases in overdoses and deaths of despair. Senseless violence. Criminality. Just a general breakdown of the social contract.

We have to stop with the rugged individualism. We need to remember what it is to be a community and to take care of each other. Our response to folks telling us they are struggling cannot be "screw you." That's literally how we got Trump.

Everyone is struggling. Most people want to do their best. But hurt people hurt people. People with no hope do not make good long term decisions. People whose needs aren't met begin to hate anyone they see as competition for resources.

This is why MAGA works. If we stop looking down on these people with derision, listen to their struggles and address them, they'd be far less angry and fearful. You can't just say "screw you" to entire populations of people and expect it not to eventually affect everyone.

Nope, sorry. These people could not give two sh*ts about poor people in cities and blue states. They have only ever cared about their own suffering which they could have prevented with better life choices. Nothing was holding them back at a systemic or societal level. Just their own sense of entitlement. They’re miserable so they want everyone else to be miserable too.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:These people are living in a bubble. They only consume information that supports their beliefs. No facts can sway them. Sadly they represent large communities so the bubble is very large. In this bubble, Trump is smart, tariffs are good, firing Government workers is OK, and Putin is favored over their own fellow Americans, who are Democrats.

Nothing can burst their bubble as it is so comfortable to have a community that agrees with all of your views. It does not challenge you.

It's a cult.

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Anonymous wrote:These people are living in a bubble. They only consume information that supports their beliefs. No facts can sway them. Sadly they represent large communities so the bubble is very large. In this bubble, Trump is smart, tariffs are good, firing Government workers is OK, and Putin is favored over their own fellow Americans, who are Democrats.

Nothing can burst their bubble as it is so comfortable to have a community that agrees with all of your views. It does not challenge you.

We as a society could have inoculated many MAGAs decades ago when those communities were asking for help. Instead Democrats told those poor white rural people to check their privilege. So those people got fed up and clung to a cult leader.

You simply cannot expect demoralized communities to think sanely. Democrats pity the demoralized brown communities but hate the demoralized white communities.

I’ve never understood the argument that the Democratic party is pro-worker. They are pro-union, hut how many workers are part of unions? Clinton is the President who screwed blue collar workers out of good manufacturing jobs by signing NAFTA and Permanent Normal Trade Relations with China. It was Biden who allowed millions of illegals to pour into the country and depress working class wages. The Democratic Party is anti-working class, imo. They neither push economic policies that benefit the working class voter nor speak the came cultural language as the working class.

Clinton didn’t negotiate NAFTA, republicans did. Biden wasn’t the only president to allow amnesty it started under Reagan.

Can you name one concrete economic policy put forth by republicans that benefited the working class?

DP. None, of course. The Republicans don’t help the working class. But the Democrats don’t either, while pretending they do.

So you don’t believe funding school lunches, Medicaid and other social welfare programs help the middle class?

Those programs have existed for decades. Just because modern Dems haven't killed them, doesn't mean they have actually accomplished anything in recent history for anyone but themselves. The programs SHOULD have been expanded, but they haven't been. Social security needs to be fixed. I've known basically my whole working adult life that while I'm forced to pay into it, it will not exist when my turn comes.

What did this last administration accomplish that materially improved your life or the life of someone you know? Do not reference legislation. Tell me something real that improved in your life as a result of the administration or something Democrats accomplished in Congress.

I've asked this question so many times, and no one ever has an answer. They always point to legislation with vague benefit to some nonexistent population of people, or decades old programs barely limping along.

What have they done lately that made your life better?

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Anonymous wrote:These people are living in a bubble. They only consume information that supports their beliefs. No facts can sway them. Sadly they represent large communities so the bubble is very large. In this bubble, Trump is smart, tariffs are good, firing Government workers is OK, and Putin is favored over their own fellow Americans, who are Democrats.

Nothing can burst their bubble as it is so comfortable to have a community that agrees with all of your views. It does not challenge you.

You got things flipped

The bubble is the inside the beltway crowd and the McLean/bethesda urban elites

The servants are revolting and they can’t figure out what is going on

But the McLean/Bethesda "urban elites" aren't the ones who will suffer.

I’m not the PP but my God the DCUM bubble is strong.

You do not understand. The jobless, underemployed working class men of all races who voted Trump into office are already suffering. They were suffering under Biden. They suffered under Trump v1. They suffered under Obama.

They’ve reached the “smash it all up stage” because they do not have any hope. And of course McLean/Bethesda elites suffer if the stock market is destroyed. How could they not? They’ll lose value in their market holdings.

My guess is that if you polled that group, Trump’s favorability ratings under the tariffs have gone up, not down. What do they care if the stock market is destroyed? Their lives are already miserable.

DCUM Democrats struggle to understand that Trump represents a class struggle moment, in which DCUM Democrats are seen as the bad guys.

Maybe these men wouldn’t have needed up in this situation if they had gotten a damn education or been willing to relocate for a job. Instead they were the types who goofed off in high school and made fun of people who studied hard. No one owes you a well paying job in the small town you grew up in. Smart people know you get an education and move to where the opportunity is. It’s the ultimate entitlement to think someone should bring opportunities to you. Times change and you adapt or get left behind. Screw them.

This!!!
It is the height of privilege to be whining about the loss of manufacturing jobs for half a century. Hollywood spent a lot of time dwelling on the costs of the decline of steel and factory jobs in the 80s. The country mourned with Hollywood and moved on. Time for these young men to focus on being serious and responsible.

This attitude is exactly why we have huge populations of angry and disaffected people. Increases in overdoses and deaths of despair. Senseless violence. Criminality. Just a general breakdown of the social contract.

We have to stop with the rugged individualism. We need to remember what it is to be a community and to take care of each other. Our response to folks telling us they are struggling cannot be "screw you." That's literally how we got Trump.

Everyone is struggling. Most people want to do their best. But hurt people hurt people. People with no hope do not make good long term decisions. People whose needs aren't met begin to hate anyone they see as competition for resources.

This is why MAGA works. If we stop looking down on these people with derision, listen to their struggles and address them, they'd be far less angry and fearful. You can't just say "screw you" to entire populations of people and expect it not to eventually affect everyone.

Nope, sorry. These people could not give two sh*ts about poor people in cities and blue states. They have only ever cared about their own suffering which they could have prevented with better life choices. Nothing was holding them back at a systemic or societal level. Just their own sense of entitlement. They’re miserable so they want everyone else to be miserable too.

And they have the same attitude about you. Is this how we govern our society now? Just constantly trying to inflict more pain on each other because we don't like or care about anyone who doesn't think and live exactly as we do? We vote to spread misery around, while the billionaire class robs us all blind? While disaffected men shoot up our theaters and schools and grocery stores?

If you want to improve things for us all, you just might have to reach out and help someone you don't like or understand.

Want safer cities? Support better schools and programs for poor people. Want less violence? Give angry young men something to hope for. It's all connected. The sooner we realize this, the better. We improve all of our lives BY IMPROVING ALL OF OUR LIVES. Not just the people you like, who live and think exactly as you do.

[Anonymous]

We go from 24 million on food stamps and EBT before Obama to 47 million on them after.

And yet, for the left, it's never enough.

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Anonymous wrote:These people are living in a bubble. They only consume information that supports their beliefs. No facts can sway them. Sadly they represent large communities so the bubble is very large. In this bubble, Trump is smart, tariffs are good, firing Government workers is OK, and Putin is favored over their own fellow Americans, who are Democrats.

Nothing can burst their bubble as it is so comfortable to have a community that agrees with all of your views. It does not challenge you.

You got things flipped

The bubble is the inside the beltway crowd and the McLean/bethesda urban elites

The servants are revolting and they can’t figure out what is going on

But the McLean/Bethesda "urban elites" aren't the ones who will suffer.

I’m not the PP but my God the DCUM bubble is strong.

You do not understand. The jobless, underemployed working class men of all races who voted Trump into office are already suffering. They were suffering under Biden. They suffered under Trump v1. They suffered under Obama.

They’ve reached the “smash it all up stage” because they do not have any hope. And of course McLean/Bethesda elites suffer if the stock market is destroyed. How could they not? They’ll lose value in their market holdings.

My guess is that if you polled that group, Trump’s favorability ratings under the tariffs have gone up, not down. What do they care if the stock market is destroyed? Their lives are already miserable.

DCUM Democrats struggle to understand that Trump represents a class struggle moment, in which DCUM Democrats are seen as the bad guys.

Maybe these men wouldn’t have needed up in this situation if they had gotten a damn education or been willing to relocate for a job. Instead they were the types who goofed off in high school and made fun of people who studied hard. No one owes you a well paying job in the small town you grew up in. Smart people know you get an education and move to where the opportunity is. It’s the ultimate entitlement to think someone should bring opportunities to you. Times change and you adapt or get left behind. Screw them.

This!!!
It is the height of privilege to be whining about the loss of manufacturing jobs for half a century. Hollywood spent a lot of time dwelling on the costs of the decline of steel and factory jobs in the 80s. The country mourned with Hollywood and moved on. Time for these young men to focus on being serious and responsible.

This attitude is exactly why we have huge populations of angry and disaffected people. Increases in overdoses and deaths of despair. Senseless violence. Criminality. Just a general breakdown of the social contract.

We have to stop with the rugged individualism. We need to remember what it is to be a community and to take care of each other. Our response to folks telling us they are struggling cannot be "screw you." That's literally how we got Trump.

Everyone is struggling. Most people want to do their best. But hurt people hurt people. People with no hope do not make good long term decisions. People whose needs aren't met begin to hate anyone they see as competition for resources.

This is why MAGA works. If we stop looking down on these people with derision, listen to their struggles and address them, they'd be far less angry and fearful. You can't just say "screw you" to entire populations of people and expect it not to eventually affect everyone.

People who are economically disaffected belong in the Democratic Party. That is the party that actually cares about people who have been sidelined.

Democrats are for the people, and Republicans are for big business.

No. Democrats SAY they are for the people. At the end of the day, they are just as in bed with moneyed interests as Republicans. They serve as a pressure release for opposition to the wealthy class, paying lipservice and doing symbolic acts. But when is the last time anything Democrats did that actually helped you or anyone you know? And if you say the freaking ACA, I'll remind you that that legislation is 15 years old now and a shell of the original vision. They've campaigning on a $15 minimum wage most of my life, yet it never materializes and is a goal a decade out of date.

Uh, Infrastructure Act which provides jobs and makes it so people can get to work easier, so our ports work more efficiently etc, CHIPS Act which brings manufacturing jobs back to the US, drug price reduction, support of unions and collective bargaining, clean air and clean water, etc. Plenty the Democrats have concretely done for every American but specifically working class Americans.

Were you or anyone you actually know impacted by the CHIPS act? Or the infrastructure bill? They literally undercut the rail workers and their strike. Showing up to a picket line is mere theatrics when you also used the office to bar workers from using their right to strike.

My point is that, yes Democrats claim many legislative victories, but who the hell actually benefits? Not me. Not anyone I know. I'd wager, not you or anyone you know. Odd isn't it? It's theater. And the sooner folks like you get your head out of your ass and see it, the sooner we can begin applying the pressure necessary to get them to ACTUALLY do something that would help real people, and not just talk a big game.

We know Republicans don't help anyone. But Democrats don't either. They play pretend. They wear Kente cloth and take a knee while giving police forces even more money. They show up for photo ops at picket lines and protests, then turn around and hand Republicans the power to cut social security. They vote to approve appointees who are entirely unqualified and who have made their intend to destroy the very agencies they head quite plain. They rail against billionaires meddling in government the turn around and have private meetings and fundraisers with them.

This has to stop. Take off your team jersey and really LOOK at what is happening. MAGA is absolutely a cult, but they aren't the only ones falling victim to propaganda.

There is no evidence that the CHIPS Act or Infrastructure bill "undercut rail workers" - let alone "literally" so.

I'm talking about how Biden and the Democrats stopped the strike, genius. The government should really have no right to stop workers from exercising their right to withhold labor. The democrats can't do stuff like that, then try to also claim to be the party of working people.

Just like Republicans can't platform pedos and rapists and claim to be the party of conservative values.

But here we are. Neither party stands for anything anymore, besides money for themselves and the owner class.

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Anonymous wrote:These people are living in a bubble. They only consume information that supports their beliefs. No facts can sway them. Sadly they represent large communities so the bubble is very large. In this bubble, Trump is smart, tariffs are good, firing Government workers is OK, and Putin is favored over their own fellow Americans, who are Democrats.

Nothing can burst their bubble as it is so comfortable to have a community that agrees with all of your views. It does not challenge you.

You got things flipped

The bubble is the inside the beltway crowd and the McLean/bethesda urban elites

The servants are revolting and they can’t figure out what is going on

But the McLean/Bethesda "urban elites" aren't the ones who will suffer.

I’m not the PP but my God the DCUM bubble is strong.

You do not understand. The jobless, underemployed working class men of all races who voted Trump into office are already suffering. They were suffering under Biden. They suffered under Trump v1. They suffered under Obama.

They’ve reached the “smash it all up stage” because they do not have any hope. And of course McLean/Bethesda elites suffer if the stock market is destroyed. How could they not? They’ll lose value in their market holdings.

My guess is that if you polled that group, Trump’s favorability ratings under the tariffs have gone up, not down. What do they care if the stock market is destroyed? Their lives are already miserable.

DCUM Democrats struggle to understand that Trump represents a class struggle moment, in which DCUM Democrats are seen as the bad guys.

Maybe these men wouldn’t have needed up in this situation if they had gotten a damn education or been willing to relocate for a job. Instead they were the types who goofed off in high school and made fun of people who studied hard. No one owes you a well paying job in the small town you grew up in. Smart people know you get an education and move to where the opportunity is. It’s the ultimate entitlement to think someone should bring opportunities to you. Times change and you adapt or get left behind. Screw them.

This!!!
It is the height of privilege to be whining about the loss of manufacturing jobs for half a century. Hollywood spent a lot of time dwelling on the costs of the decline of steel and factory jobs in the 80s. The country mourned with Hollywood and moved on. Time for these young men to focus on being serious and responsible.

This attitude is exactly why we have huge populations of angry and disaffected people. Increases in overdoses and deaths of despair. Senseless violence. Criminality. Just a general breakdown of the social contract.

We have to stop with the rugged individualism. We need to remember what it is to be a community and to take care of each other. Our response to folks telling us they are struggling cannot be "screw you." That's literally how we got Trump.

Everyone is struggling. Most people want to do their best. But hurt people hurt people. People with no hope do not make good long term decisions. People whose needs aren't met begin to hate anyone they see as competition for resources.

This is why MAGA works. If we stop looking down on these people with derision, listen to their struggles and address them, they'd be far less angry and fearful. You can't just say "screw you" to entire populations of people and expect it not to eventually affect everyone.

Nope, sorry. These people could not give two sh*ts about poor people in cities and blue states. They have only ever cared about their own suffering which they could have prevented with better life choices. Nothing was holding them back at a systemic or societal level. Just their own sense of entitlement. They’re miserable so they want everyone else to be miserable too.

And they have the same attitude about you. Is this how we govern our society now? Just constantly trying to inflict more pain on each other because we don't like or care about anyone who doesn't think and live exactly as we do? We vote to spread misery around, while the billionaire class robs us all blind? While disaffected men shoot up our theaters and schools and grocery stores?

If you want to improve things for us all, you just might have to reach out and help someone you don't like or understand.

Want safer cities? Support better schools and programs for poor people. Want less violence? Give angry young men something to hope for. It's all connected. The sooner we realize this, the better. We improve all of our lives BY IMPROVING ALL OF OUR LIVES. Not just the people you like, who live and think exactly as you do.

I’m all set on the lecture. Again, I will show these people empathy when they show themselves to be capable of showing it towards others. They have never cared about anyone other than themselves. In case you haven’t noticed, being the bigger person doesn’t work. It’s a winner take all, zero sum game in our current system. They don’t want handouts (so they say) and they don’t want to pay for handouts for others. So screw it. Let them realize that what we had wasn’t as bad as they made it out to be. Sometimes people have to hit rock bottom before they come to their senses.

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Anonymous wrote:NP. Yeah, I’m not so sure MAGA are the ones in the bubble. Or rather, they are in a bubble, but the people in the DCUM bubble are equally sealed. Why were so many DCUMs shocked at Trump’s win? That he was going to easily win was obvious to those of us who don’t rely solely on DCUM approved media sources.

I am a moderate, Harris-voting Democrat. (I would never vote for Trump.) I make it a point to consume both right and left wing media sources as well as MSM. And it is weird, what I read on DCUM sometimes. There is as much of a bubble here as you accuse the MAGA of living in.

FYI the right wing media is covering the protests. They aren’t hiding it. So this whole idea that Fox isn’t covering the protests, well that’s the product of your bubble, not reality. But you’d have to actually make a point of consuming right wing media sources to know that.

I’m a moderate as well that left the DC area for a quiet, red state. No one here talks politics, gets fired up or acts at all like I see my DC area friends acting since the election. So angry, hostile and broken. It’s sad if this really is what had been done to the left with this election.

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Anonymous wrote:We go from 24 million on food stamps and EBT before Obama to 47 million on them after.

And yet, for the left, it's never enough.

You're right. The Democrats throw money at the wrong problems. We have less folks on food stamps if we addressed issues with housing, healthcare, childcare, and the labor market. But it's easier to give out food stamps and continue to accept donations and lobbyists money from the same billionaires who benefit from things working exactly as they currently do.

They find themselves between a rock and hard place. Gotta keep the donors happy and keep up appearances to the voters. So they can't actually accomplish anything but they need to appear to be trying. We need to demand they fix actual issues and stop kow towing to their donors.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:NP. Yeah, I’m not so sure MAGA are the ones in the bubble. Or rather, they are in a bubble, but the people in the DCUM bubble are equally sealed. Why were so many DCUMs shocked at Trump’s win? That he was going to easily win was obvious to those of us who don’t rely solely on DCUM approved media sources.

I am a moderate, Harris-voting Democrat. (I would never vote for Trump.) I make it a point to consume both right and left wing media sources as well as MSM. And it is weird, what I read on DCUM sometimes. There is as much of a bubble here as you accuse the MAGA of living in.

FYI the right wing media is covering the protests. They aren’t hiding it. So this whole idea that Fox isn’t covering the protests, well that’s the product of your bubble, not reality. But you’d have to actually make a point of consuming right wing media sources to know that.

I’m a moderate as well that left the DC area for a quiet, red state. No one here talks politics, gets fired up or acts at all like I see my DC area friends acting since the election. So angry, hostile and broken. It’s sad if this really is what had been done to the left with this election.

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Yup. Coming into contact with reality has broken a lot of them.