Boundary study (2025 )

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Anonymous wrote:Stonemill is one of the larger elementaries in he Wootton Cluster if they move that to Crown it will be a shit show with busing. And MS is Cabin John currently would they then go Cabin John Crown... However students from Crown area already go to Wootton so maybe one of the best choices except Wootton is not over crowded.
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Dufief Elementary should go to Crown easy access for busing. Same with Stonemill easy access.

They are the closest elementaries but MS not so much.

What do I know...

Logistics has never been a strong suit for MCPS.


How much risk is there that Travilah Elementary switches from Wootton to Crown? I’m thinking about moving there and am considering whether to wait a year to be sure my kids can go to Wootton.


As a Wootton parent I am not sure why you would do this. Crown will be brand new and beautiful with kids from the Wootton cluster. I would love to get changed to Crown.


+1

Wootton is also cutthroat. Maybe this will help many of the HS be less so they can actually get accepted to UMD CP.


Don't be absurd Wootton send a ton of kids to UMD CP if your kid did not get in they are not qualified. It is a safety for most Wootton kids. Parent of 5 Wootton kids all accepted to UMD CP.


The only absurd post here is yours....stats are stats....if 500 qualify and they take 100 from each high school your kid was not better than the other 400. If it makes yourself feel better to tell yourself that feel free. If another highschool has only 300 that qualify and still takes 100 you have better odds. As a note - I am a Wootton parent but my kid went Ivy. That does not make my kid better than yours.
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If you live in the following clusters, the Woodward study may affect you:
Bethesda Chevy-Chase
Montgomery Blair
Albert Einstein
Walter Johnson
John F. Kennedy
Northwood
Wheaton
Walt Whitman

If you live in the following clusters, the Crown/Damascus study may affect you:
Winston Churchill
Clarksburg
Damascus
Gaithersburg
Richard Montgomery
Northwest
Poolesville
Quince Orchard
Seneca Valley
Watkins Mill
Thomas S. Wootton


Yes, but it will only directly affect the adjacent schools like WJ, Einstein and BCC.


No, any school from either list may end up with new boundaries, but not necessarily rezoned to Woodward or Crown.


Doubt Whitman families are going to want BCC. Or would they???


I think Whitman students more likely to get assigned to WJ vs BCC.


+1. To backfill as all of Tilden goes to Woodward.


Seeing that elementaries are staying the same the most logical predictive practice would be to guess which schools get reassigned. Bradley hills might logistically make sense to WJ but its all guessing


In one way that makes sense, but then you have the issue of maximizing walkers. If much of BH is within Whitman's walk zone, I think they will keep it assigned there. Or at least split-articulate.
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Anonymous wrote:I feel like this information needs to be communicated more effectively:

If you live in the following clusters, the Woodward study may affect you:
Bethesda Chevy-Chase
Montgomery Blair
Albert Einstein
Walter Johnson
John F. Kennedy
Northwood
Wheaton
Walt Whitman

If you live in the following clusters, the Crown/Damascus study may affect you:
Winston Churchill
Clarksburg
Damascus
Gaithersburg
Richard Montgomery
Northwest
Poolesville
Quince Orchard
Seneca Valley
Watkins Mill
Thomas S. Wootton


Yes, but it will only directly affect the adjacent schools like WJ, Einstein and BCC.


No, any school from either list may end up with new boundaries, but not necessarily rezoned to Woodward or Crown.


Doubt Whitman families are going to want BCC. Or would they???


I think Whitman students more likely to get assigned to WJ vs BCC.


+1. To backfill as all of Tilden goes to Woodward.


Seeing that elementaries are staying the same the most logical predictive practice would be to guess which schools get reassigned. Bradley hills might logistically make sense to WJ but its all guessing


In one way that makes sense, but then you have the issue of maximizing walkers. If much of BH is within Whitman's walk zone, I think they will keep it assigned there. Or at least split-articulate.


Why split?
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I feel like this information needs to be communicated more effectively:

If you live in the following clusters, the Woodward study may affect you:
Bethesda Chevy-Chase
Montgomery Blair
Albert Einstein
Walter Johnson
John F. Kennedy
Northwood
Wheaton
Walt Whitman

If you live in the following clusters, the Crown/Damascus study may affect you:
Winston Churchill
Clarksburg
Damascus
Gaithersburg
Richard Montgomery
Northwest
Poolesville
Quince Orchard
Seneca Valley
Watkins Mill
Thomas S. Wootton


Yes, but it will only directly affect the adjacent schools like WJ, Einstein and BCC.


No, any school from either list may end up with new boundaries, but not necessarily rezoned to Woodward or Crown.


Doubt Whitman families are going to want BCC. Or would they???


I think Whitman students more likely to get assigned to WJ vs BCC.


+1. To backfill as all of Tilden goes to Woodward.


Seeing that elementaries are staying the same the most logical predictive practice would be to guess which schools get reassigned. Bradley hills might logistically make sense to WJ but its all guessing


In one way that makes sense, but then you have the issue of maximizing walkers. If much of BH is within Whitman's walk zone, I think they will keep it assigned there. Or at least split-articulate.


Why split?


Like if they want to keep the walkers as walkers, they could draw a line there and still rezone those who are already bus riders.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I feel like this information needs to be communicated more effectively:

If you live in the following clusters, the Woodward study may affect you:
Bethesda Chevy-Chase
Montgomery Blair
Albert Einstein
Walter Johnson
John F. Kennedy
Northwood
Wheaton
Walt Whitman

If you live in the following clusters, the Crown/Damascus study may affect you:
Winston Churchill
Clarksburg
Damascus
Gaithersburg
Richard Montgomery
Northwest
Poolesville
Quince Orchard
Seneca Valley
Watkins Mill
Thomas S. Wootton


Yes, but it will only directly affect the adjacent schools like WJ, Einstein and BCC.


No, any school from either list may end up with new boundaries, but not necessarily rezoned to Woodward or Crown.


Doubt Whitman families are going to want BCC. Or would they???


I think Whitman students more likely to get assigned to WJ vs BCC.


+1. To backfill as all of Tilden goes to Woodward.


Seeing that elementaries are staying the same the most logical predictive practice would be to guess which schools get reassigned. Bradley hills might logistically make sense to WJ but its all guessing


In one way that makes sense, but then you have the issue of maximizing walkers. If much of BH is within Whitman's walk zone, I think they will keep it assigned there. Or at least split-articulate.


But its not like they are going to send Cabin John to WJ. Most of Whitmans zone is to the West of Whitman and the lack of other schools that way cement it can only be plucked apart from the East. But I can see little of Whitman being effected when all said and done. BCC, WJ and Einstein fill in Woodward and a few schools backfill to balance things out. I wouldn't be surprised if Kensington becomes a Woodward
zone
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I feel like this information needs to be communicated more effectively:

If you live in the following clusters, the Woodward study may affect you:
Bethesda Chevy-Chase
Montgomery Blair
Albert Einstein
Walter Johnson
John F. Kennedy
Northwood
Wheaton
Walt Whitman

If you live in the following clusters, the Crown/Damascus study may affect you:
Winston Churchill
Clarksburg
Damascus
Gaithersburg
Richard Montgomery
Northwest
Poolesville
Quince Orchard
Seneca Valley
Watkins Mill
Thomas S. Wootton


Yes, but it will only directly affect the adjacent schools like WJ, Einstein and BCC.


No, any school from either list may end up with new boundaries, but not necessarily rezoned to Woodward or Crown.


Doubt Whitman families are going to want BCC. Or would they???


I think Whitman students more likely to get assigned to WJ vs BCC.


+1. To backfill as all of Tilden goes to Woodward.


Seeing that elementaries are staying the same the most logical predictive practice would be to guess which schools get reassigned. Bradley hills might logistically make sense to WJ but its all guessing


In one way that makes sense, but then you have the issue of maximizing walkers. If much of BH is within Whitman's walk zone, I think they will keep it assigned there. Or at least split-articulate.


But its not like they are going to send Cabin John to WJ. Most of Whitmans zone is to the West of Whitman and the lack of other schools that way cement it can only be plucked apart from the East. But I can see little of Whitman being effected when all said and done. BCC, WJ and Einstein fill in Woodward and a few schools backfill to balance things out. I wouldn't be surprised if Kensington becomes a Woodward
zone


I think a little of the northern part of Whitman's zone will move to WJ, and a little of the western part of BCC's zone will move to Whitman.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I feel like this information needs to be communicated more effectively:

If you live in the following clusters, the Woodward study may affect you:
Bethesda Chevy-Chase
Montgomery Blair
Albert Einstein
Walter Johnson
John F. Kennedy
Northwood
Wheaton
Walt Whitman

If you live in the following clusters, the Crown/Damascus study may affect you:
Winston Churchill
Clarksburg
Damascus
Gaithersburg
Richard Montgomery
Northwest
Poolesville
Quince Orchard
Seneca Valley
Watkins Mill
Thomas S. Wootton


Yes, but it will only directly affect the adjacent schools like WJ, Einstein and BCC.


No, any school from either list may end up with new boundaries, but not necessarily rezoned to Woodward or Crown.


Doubt Whitman families are going to want BCC. Or would they???


I think Whitman students more likely to get assigned to WJ vs BCC.


+1. To backfill as all of Tilden goes to Woodward.


Seeing that elementaries are staying the same the most logical predictive practice would be to guess which schools get reassigned. Bradley hills might logistically make sense to WJ but its all guessing


In one way that makes sense, but then you have the issue of maximizing walkers. If much of BH is within Whitman's walk zone, I think they will keep it assigned there. Or at least split-articulate.


But its not like they are going to send Cabin John to WJ. Most of Whitmans zone is to the West of Whitman and the lack of other schools that way cement it can only be plucked apart from the East. But I can see little of Whitman being effected when all said and done. BCC, WJ and Einstein fill in Woodward and a few schools backfill to balance things out. I wouldn't be surprised if Kensington becomes a Woodward
zone


WJ is so overcrowded that by the time they take extras from WJ, Woodward will be full. Don't see how they can take any from BCC and Einstein or any other school really
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I feel like this information needs to be communicated more effectively:

If you live in the following clusters, the Woodward study may affect you:
Bethesda Chevy-Chase
Montgomery Blair
Albert Einstein
Walter Johnson
John F. Kennedy
Northwood
Wheaton
Walt Whitman

If you live in the following clusters, the Crown/Damascus study may affect you:
Winston Churchill
Clarksburg
Damascus
Gaithersburg
Richard Montgomery
Northwest
Poolesville
Quince Orchard
Seneca Valley
Watkins Mill
Thomas S. Wootton


Yes, but it will only directly affect the adjacent schools like WJ, Einstein and BCC.


No, any school from either list may end up with new boundaries, but not necessarily rezoned to Woodward or Crown.


Doubt Whitman families are going to want BCC. Or would they???


I think Whitman students more likely to get assigned to WJ vs BCC.


+1. To backfill as all of Tilden goes to Woodward.


Seeing that elementaries are staying the same the most logical predictive practice would be to guess which schools get reassigned. Bradley hills might logistically make sense to WJ but its all guessing


In one way that makes sense, but then you have the issue of maximizing walkers. If much of BH is within Whitman's walk zone, I think they will keep it assigned there. Or at least split-articulate.


But its not like they are going to send Cabin John to WJ. Most of Whitmans zone is to the West of Whitman and the lack of other schools that way cement it can only be plucked apart from the East. But I can see little of Whitman being effected when all said and done. BCC, WJ and Einstein fill in Woodward and a few schools backfill to balance things out. I wouldn't be surprised if Kensington becomes a Woodward
zone


WJ is so overcrowded that by the time they take extras from WJ, Woodward will be full. Don't see how they can take any from BCC and Einstein or any other school really


Woodward will have a capacity of 2249. WJ is ~800 over capacity. Even if they send 1200 students from WJ to Woodward, there would still be 1000 more seats available.
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Anonymous wrote:Stonemill is one of the larger elementaries in he Wootton Cluster if they move that to Crown it will be a shit show with busing. And MS is Cabin John currently would they then go Cabin John Crown... However students from Crown area already go to Wootton so maybe one of the best choices except Wootton is not over crowded.
Another thought
Dufief Elementary should go to Crown easy access for busing. Same with Stonemill easy access.

They are the closest elementaries but MS not so much.

What do I know...

Logistics has never been a strong suit for MCPS.


How much risk is there that Travilah Elementary switches from Wootton to Crown? I’m thinking about moving there and am considering whether to wait a year to be sure my kids can go to Wootton.


As a Wootton parent I am not sure why you would do this. Crown will be brand new and beautiful with kids from the Wootton cluster. I would love to get changed to Crown.


Because Wootton has higher academic achievement outcomes than the other high schools that Crown will draw from, and that matters to me more than a new building.

Seems like for the next year or so there will be significant uncertainty for all elementary schools currently in the Wootton cluster, and still some but less for Winston Churchill. Right? Thanks!
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Stonemill is one of the larger elementaries in he Wootton Cluster if they move that to Crown it will be a shit show with busing. And MS is Cabin John currently would they then go Cabin John Crown... However students from Crown area already go to Wootton so maybe one of the best choices except Wootton is not over crowded.
Another thought
Dufief Elementary should go to Crown easy access for busing. Same with Stonemill easy access.

They are the closest elementaries but MS not so much.

What do I know...

Logistics has never been a strong suit for MCPS.


How much risk is there that Travilah Elementary switches from Wootton to Crown? I’m thinking about moving there and am considering whether to wait a year to be sure my kids can go to Wootton.


As a Wootton parent I am not sure why you would do this. Crown will be brand new and beautiful with kids from the Wootton cluster. I would love to get changed to Crown.


Because Wootton has higher academic achievement outcomes than the other high schools that Crown will draw from, and that matters to me more than a new building.

Seems like for the next year or so there will be significant uncertainty for all elementary schools currently in the Wootton cluster, and still some but less for Winston Churchill. Right? Thanks!


Yes there is uncertainty for Wootton, Churchill, and nearly 20 other clusters too. We can make guesses here, but no one really knows how it will turn out, because Taylor wasn't here for any previous study, and he makes the final recommendation, which the board is likely to follow.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I feel like this information needs to be communicated more effectively:

If you live in the following clusters, the Woodward study may affect you:
Bethesda Chevy-Chase
Montgomery Blair
Albert Einstein
Walter Johnson
John F. Kennedy
Northwood
Wheaton
Walt Whitman

If you live in the following clusters, the Crown/Damascus study may affect you:
Winston Churchill
Clarksburg
Damascus
Gaithersburg
Richard Montgomery
Northwest
Poolesville
Quince Orchard
Seneca Valley
Watkins Mill
Thomas S. Wootton


Yes, but it will only directly affect the adjacent schools like WJ, Einstein and BCC.


No, any school from either list may end up with new boundaries, but not necessarily rezoned to Woodward or Crown.


Doubt Whitman families are going to want BCC. Or would they???


I think Whitman students more likely to get assigned to WJ vs BCC.


+1. To backfill as all of Tilden goes to Woodward.


Seeing that elementaries are staying the same the most logical predictive practice would be to guess which schools get reassigned. Bradley hills might logistically make sense to WJ but its all guessing


In one way that makes sense, but then you have the issue of maximizing walkers. If much of BH is within Whitman's walk zone, I think they will keep it assigned there. Or at least split-articulate.


But its not like they are going to send Cabin John to WJ. Most of Whitmans zone is to the West of Whitman and the lack of other schools that way cement it can only be plucked apart from the East. But I can see little of Whitman being effected when all said and done. BCC, WJ and Einstein fill in Woodward and a few schools backfill to balance things out. I wouldn't be surprised if Kensington becomes a Woodward
zone


WJ is so overcrowded that by the time they take extras from WJ, Woodward will be full. Don't see how they can take any from BCC and Einstein or any other school really


Woodward will have a capacity of 2249. WJ is ~800 over capacity. Even if they send 1200 students from WJ to Woodward, there would still be 1000 more seats available.


Shouldn't they keep a few hundred seats open to factor for growth within Woodward boundary whatever boundaries that will be? There are lots of condos and apartments around Woodward/ Old G'town Road/Strathmore which may be occupied by families with school aged children.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Stonemill is one of the larger elementaries in he Wootton Cluster if they move that to Crown it will be a shit show with busing. And MS is Cabin John currently would they then go Cabin John Crown... However students from Crown area already go to Wootton so maybe one of the best choices except Wootton is not over crowded.
Another thought
Dufief Elementary should go to Crown easy access for busing. Same with Stonemill easy access.

They are the closest elementaries but MS not so much.

What do I know...

Logistics has never been a strong suit for MCPS.


How much risk is there that Travilah Elementary switches from Wootton to Crown? I’m thinking about moving there and am considering whether to wait a year to be sure my kids can go to Wootton.


As a Wootton parent I am not sure why you would do this. Crown will be brand new and beautiful with kids from the Wootton cluster. I would love to get changed to Crown.


Because Wootton has higher academic achievement outcomes than the other high schools that Crown will draw from, and that matters to me more than a new building.

Seems like for the next year or so there will be significant uncertainty for all elementary schools currently in the Wootton cluster, and still some but less for Winston Churchill. Right? Thanks!


Yes there is uncertainty for Wootton, Churchill, and nearly 20 other clusters too. We can make guesses here, but no one really knows how it will turn out, because Taylor wasn't here for any previous study, and he makes the final recommendation, which the board is likely to follow.


The boundary study meeting info should be blasted to ES, MS and underclassmen HS families. Families should be driving the decisions not Taylor. The loud parents will show up but there should be a survey or some other ways to reach less visible families to gather their inputs.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I feel like this information needs to be communicated more effectively:

If you live in the following clusters, the Woodward study may affect you:
Bethesda Chevy-Chase
Montgomery Blair
Albert Einstein
Walter Johnson
John F. Kennedy
Northwood
Wheaton
Walt Whitman

If you live in the following clusters, the Crown/Damascus study may affect you:
Winston Churchill
Clarksburg
Damascus
Gaithersburg
Richard Montgomery
Northwest
Poolesville
Quince Orchard
Seneca Valley
Watkins Mill
Thomas S. Wootton


Yes, but it will only directly affect the adjacent schools like WJ, Einstein and BCC.


No, any school from either list may end up with new boundaries, but not necessarily rezoned to Woodward or Crown.


Doubt Whitman families are going to want BCC. Or would they???


I think Whitman students more likely to get assigned to WJ vs BCC.


+1. To backfill as all of Tilden goes to Woodward.


Seeing that elementaries are staying the same the most logical predictive practice would be to guess which schools get reassigned. Bradley hills might logistically make sense to WJ but its all guessing


In one way that makes sense, but then you have the issue of maximizing walkers. If much of BH is within Whitman's walk zone, I think they will keep it assigned there. Or at least split-articulate.


But its not like they are going to send Cabin John to WJ. Most of Whitmans zone is to the West of Whitman and the lack of other schools that way cement it can only be plucked apart from the East. But I can see little of Whitman being effected when all said and done. BCC, WJ and Einstein fill in Woodward and a few schools backfill to balance things out. I wouldn't be surprised if Kensington becomes a Woodward
zone


WJ is so overcrowded that by the time they take extras from WJ, Woodward will be full. Don't see how they can take any from BCC and Einstein or any other school really


Woodward will have a capacity of 2249. WJ is ~800 over capacity. Even if they send 1200 students from WJ to Woodward, there would still be 1000 more seats available.


Shouldn't they keep a few hundred seats open to factor for growth within Woodward boundary whatever boundaries that will be? There are lots of condos and apartments around Woodward/ Old G'town Road/Strathmore which may be occupied by families with school aged children.


Yes, ideally when all is said and done, each of the schools should have some room to grow. That's one of the four factors to be considered: utilization.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Stonemill is one of the larger elementaries in he Wootton Cluster if they move that to Crown it will be a shit show with busing. And MS is Cabin John currently would they then go Cabin John Crown... However students from Crown area already go to Wootton so maybe one of the best choices except Wootton is not over crowded.
Another thought
Dufief Elementary should go to Crown easy access for busing. Same with Stonemill easy access.

They are the closest elementaries but MS not so much.

What do I know...

Logistics has never been a strong suit for MCPS.


How much risk is there that Travilah Elementary switches from Wootton to Crown? I’m thinking about moving there and am considering whether to wait a year to be sure my kids can go to Wootton.


As a Wootton parent I am not sure why you would do this. Crown will be brand new and beautiful with kids from the Wootton cluster. I would love to get changed to Crown.


Because Wootton has higher academic achievement outcomes than the other high schools that Crown will draw from, and that matters to me more than a new building.

Seems like for the next year or so there will be significant uncertainty for all elementary schools currently in the Wootton cluster, and still some but less for Winston Churchill. Right? Thanks!


Yes there is uncertainty for Wootton, Churchill, and nearly 20 other clusters too. We can make guesses here, but no one really knows how it will turn out, because Taylor wasn't here for any previous study, and he makes the final recommendation, which the board is likely to follow.


The boundary study meeting info should be blasted to ES, MS and underclassmen HS families. Families should be driving the decisions not Taylor. The loud parents will show up but there should be a survey or some other ways to reach less visible families to gather their inputs.


They have had surveys in past studies, but they're usually oddly written questions which don't really get at the main concerns. I hope the two new consulting firms they hired will have better community outreach techniques.
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