JD and Usha

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I'm an Usha fan so far. I have been reading a lot about her.


Who gives a crap about her?
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:No decent woman would have married vance or trump.
Usha definitely profited from DEI so why is she still around?


Actually, Vance definitely benefitted from DEI.


DEI (TM) wasn’t invented until 2020, years after Vance got into Yale.

Not all programs that expand access to underrepresented groups are DEI (TM) and DEI (TM) did not reach all underrepresented groups. In particular, DEI (TM) favored a worldview where privilege was measured by skin color, gender, and status as a sexual minority and almost completely ignored the actual current driver of inequality in our society which is money, class, and what kind of family you were born into.

(I put the TMs to mean Trademark, because so many people on this board do not understand the difference between the program invented in 2020 vs. actual diversity, equity, and inclusion. Sorry if it’s lame.)


It is lame. Before DEI, there was affirmative action, which has been around for years, and he definitely benefited from it.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm an Usha fan so far. I have been reading a lot about her.


Who gives a crap about her?

Exactly. Has the VP's spouse ever mattered? Can anybody remember anything Lynne Cheney or Jill Biden or Karen Pence or Doug Emhoff did in that role?
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:No decent woman would have married vance or trump.
Usha definitely profited from DEI so why is she still around?


Actually, Vance definitely benefitted from DEI.


DEI (TM) wasn’t invented until 2020, years after Vance got into Yale.

Not all programs that expand access to underrepresented groups are DEI (TM) and DEI (TM) did not reach all underrepresented groups. In particular, DEI (TM) favored a worldview where privilege was measured by skin color, gender, and status as a sexual minority and almost completely ignored the actual current driver of inequality in our society which is money, class, and what kind of family you were born into.

(I put the TMs to mean Trademark, because so many people on this board do not understand the difference between the program invented in 2020 vs. actual diversity, equity, and inclusion. Sorry if it’s lame.)


LOL, you're lame. These programs were not invented in 2020, there was simply a deepening of the commitment by institutions to these values in the wake of George Floyd's death. There isn't some "before" time and "after" time in this work.

blather blather blather.


Then why are you peeps so up in arms about DEI getting canceled?


Because you dumba$$es don't know what DEI is. It's not individual hiring decisions and quotas. It's outreach, removing barriers, and training. Why are you so opposed to that? Unless you are some mediocre white person, or an ahole, or both, you shouldn't be.


Outreach, removing barriers, and training are all fine and good.

But is the outreach effective if it reaches out to poor black girls but not poor white girls?

Is removing barriers effective if by allowing trans women to compete in female sports creates barriers for females who would otherwise compete?

Is the training effective if it is sanctimoniously carried out by bubble UMC white people and hyper focused on race, ignoring money and class.

There is nothing wrong with the spirit of DEI. Unfortunately the core messaging seemed to get lost and DEI(TM) emerged as a massive money making opportunity and grift.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:No decent woman would have married vance or trump.
Usha definitely profited from DEI so why is she still around?


Actually, Vance definitely benefitted from DEI.


DEI (TM) wasn’t invented until 2020, years after Vance got into Yale.

Not all programs that expand access to underrepresented groups are DEI (TM) and DEI (TM) did not reach all underrepresented groups. In particular, DEI (TM) favored a worldview where privilege was measured by skin color, gender, and status as a sexual minority and almost completely ignored the actual current driver of inequality in our society which is money, class, and what kind of family you were born into.

(I put the TMs to mean Trademark, because so many people on this board do not understand the difference between the program invented in 2020 vs. actual diversity, equity, and inclusion. Sorry if it’s lame.)


It is lame. Before DEI, there was affirmative action, which has been around for years, and he definitely benefited from it.


I won’t argue that JD didn’t benefit from some sort of class-shaping school of thought, but it was not DEI and a stretch to call it affirmative action. And I’ll bet that he’d have a harder time getting admitted in the last few years because “diversity” has very much come to mean race-focused.
Anonymous
I worked in T10 law school admissions (not Yale, but similar) during that era and I can assure you that giving favoritism to poor or first gen college white kids was definitely a thing. It wasn’t as big a hook as being an “underrepresented minority” or URM (the term we used then) but it still helped a lot. Especially if you had a good LSAT score but maybe went to a crappy school or had a lower GPA and a sob story.
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Anonymous wrote:No decent woman would have married vance or trump.
Usha definitely profited from DEI so why is she still around?


Usha Vance profited from parents who raised her well, working hard throughout her academic life and creating a strong career. It is weak white women who couldn’t compete with her who profited from DEI. How else could they have gotten into law school so that they could snag a high earner and become a SAHM.


Sure. But she's the one who laid down with the dogs and now is upset at having all the fleas.

+1 She said to "listen to him" when he made the comment about Haitians eating pets. No, I don't think she's decent.


Nobody decent would stand by that "man".


A man is a male person. There are good ones and bad ones. There’s no need to use quotations.


You need to have a spine to be a man.


Stop perpetuating patriarchal myths. Vance is a cowardly crappy man. They exist.


Stop insulting good men. Vance is a spineless, soggybottomed manbaby, not a man.


He wears eyeliner, like one of those disgusting gays!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm an Usha fan so far. I have been reading a lot about her.


Who gives a crap about her?

Exactly. Has the VP's spouse ever mattered? Can anybody remember anything Lynne Cheney or Jill Biden or Karen Pence or Doug Emhoff did in that role?


People are trotting her out like she’s some sort of inspiration. She’s a whore.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:No decent woman would have married vance or trump.
Usha definitely profited from DEI so why is she still around?


How exactly did she benefit from DEI?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:No decent woman would have married vance or trump.
Usha definitely profited from DEI so why is she still around?


Actually, Vance definitely benefitted from DEI.


DEI (TM) wasn’t invented until 2020, years after Vance got into Yale.

Not all programs that expand access to underrepresented groups are DEI (TM) and DEI (TM) did not reach all underrepresented groups. In particular, DEI (TM) favored a worldview where privilege was measured by skin color, gender, and status as a sexual minority and almost completely ignored the actual current driver of inequality in our society which is money, class, and what kind of family you were born into.

(I put the TMs to mean Trademark, because so many people on this board do not understand the difference between the program invented in 2020 vs. actual diversity, equity, and inclusion. Sorry if it’s lame.)


LOL, you're lame. These programs were not invented in 2020, there was simply a deepening of the commitment by institutions to these values in the wake of George Floyd's death. There isn't some "before" time and "after" time in this work.

blather blather blather.


Then why are you peeps so up in arms about DEI getting canceled?


Because you dumba$$es don't know what DEI is. It's not individual hiring decisions and quotas. It's outreach, removing barriers, and training. Why are you so opposed to that? Unless you are some mediocre white person, or an ahole, or both, you shouldn't be.


DEI sounds fine until you realize what they mean by it.
Diversity sounds nice, except it is created by favoring some races over others.
Equity sounds nice until you realize equity means equality of results. Mostly along racial lines.
Inclusion seems fine except when inclusion is practiced in a way to exclude others.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:No decent woman would have married vance or trump.
Usha definitely profited from DEI so why is she still around?


How exactly did she benefit from DEI?


She's female
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:No decent woman would have married vance or trump.
Usha definitely profited from DEI so why is she still around?


How exactly did she benefit from DEI?


She's female


Females are overrepresented in college and law school.
Anonymous
JD Vance would never get into Yale now. Ivy admissions are explicitly anti-Christian. Less than 50% of white kids at Ivy’s are from Christian backgrounds. Admissions also screen out rural kids and especially 4H participants, because the odds of those kids coming from conservative families is high.
Anonymous
The problem for DEI and Affirmative Action is that with Trump and Musk cancelling all the DEI consulting contracts and threatening universities and corporations to do the same, we’re going to have to RE-SELL affirmative action to the American people. We can’t just defend it as the status quo (which was easier) once it isn’t the status quo. This stinks. It’s going to cost us political capital. In addition to whatever new initiatives we have, we’ll have to spend a lot of effort just getting back to where we already were before.
Anonymous
I don't care about either one of them. MacBeth and Lady MacBeth IMO.

They just want power. And they don't care how many people suffer or die as long as they get it.

They're both bad people. Good people could not do what they do - support and defend Trump and normalize hatred and cruelty.
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