Trump govt is deporting Green Card holder student exercising free speech

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Speech isn't free from consequences. Sounds like he FAFO.

Well done by the Trump administration, perfectly justified


The whole point of Free Speech is those consequences can’t come from the government.

Just admit that you hate the First Amendment.


Assaulting people is not free speech, but you know that.

I explained a very basic part of the First Amendment, and you moved the goal posts to assault? Predictable.


Now you are suddenly a free speech absolutist?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Speech isn't free from consequences. Sounds like he FAFO.

Well done by the Trump administration, perfectly justified


The whole point of Free Speech is those consequences can’t come from the government.

Just admit that you hate the First Amendment.


Assaulting people is not free speech, but you know that.

I explained a very basic part of the First Amendment, and you moved the goal posts to assault? Predictable.


Now you are suddenly a free speech absolutist?


DP. We see what you are doing.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Speech isn't free from consequences. Sounds like he FAFO.

Well done by the Trump administration, perfectly justified


The whole point of Free Speech is those consequences can’t come from the government.

Just admit that you hate the First Amendment.


Assaulting people is not free speech, but you know that.

I explained a very basic part of the First Amendment, and you moved the goal posts to assault? Predictable.


Now you are suddenly a free speech absolutist?


DP. Our First Amendment provides the broadest free speech protection of any country of the planet. If you don't like it, sorry.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:When you are overtly advocating for violent terrorism, this is a risk. He was espousing terroristic activity. It’s literally a law.


What does “espousing terroristic activity” mean? What law? Stop making stuff up. Last time I checked, the First Amendment was actually the law. I’m Jewish and don’t agree with what this person said or did, but I am appalled by this arrest and the notion that lawful residents are being deported for exercising free speech.


Thank you for supporting the right thing. I am an immigrant Citizen and this feels my heart. This should worry everyone who is a naturalized citizen. The laws are not the same for us. Any day the govt can turn against us and declare the free speech we exercise is actually terroristic activity and we need to be deported. If this news does not worry you then you are not paying attention!


And you all voted for Trump and were told he would do this. And when people tried to warn you, you told them to STFU.



Who are you talking to, hun?


The immigrant citizen above who voted for Trump because she didn’t want any more immigrants coming in.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:This is potentially a bad precedent. It will have to go through the courts. The mitigating factor is advocating for Hamas - an officially designated terrorist organization. Yes, we have free speech. But foreign citizens - even Green Card holders - advocating for violent religious extremists like Hamas becomes a national security concern. Hamas is well known for suicide bombings, blowing up buses and restaurants, torture, slavery, kidnappings and so on. Green Card holders seeking to increase the influence of Hamas in America - and college campuses in particular - is definitely pushing some legal boundaries.

If what you have said is true, then the chances are is that he will be deported. For those of you that think deporting him is harsh, when you apply to come to the US, you are asked questions about terrorism etc. I bet he never put on his application that he supported Hamas or any other terrorist organization. If he had, he wouldn't have been allowed into the US in the first place.


But did he support Hamas? Is he quoted anywhere saying anything other than protesting the war against the Palestinian civilians in Gaza? There are many people who protest for the Palestinian civilians who do NOT support Hamas. Calling protesters supporters of Hamas is a tactic used by the GOP/MAGA and the Israeli government to malign people who are exercising their right to protest bombing of innocent civilians.


So I think that will be the key point. Hamas is a designated terrorist organization. It is responsible for suicide bombings, kidnappings, torture, and murder. It is deeply misogynistic. It advocates for the death of all members of the LGTBQ community. It is profoundly anti-democratic. It has advocated for the genocide of all Jews. It is also absurdly corrupt. Its leaders were billionaires that stole billions in aid. And Hamas has shown that it is perfectly capable and willing to murder more than a 1000 innocent people on a Saturday morning.

The Columbia student protestors have shown over and over again that they are advocates for Hamas. Just listen to them - "We are all Hamas." "Hamas, we love you. We love your rockets too." And on and on. There are a million different ways to protest against the Netanyahu government. Israelis do it every day. But the student protesters have chosen to affiliate themselves and to mouth the propaganda of Hamas - an officially designated terrorist organization. For an immigrant, it would be like obtaining a visa for Ireland and then advocating for the death of all Catholics, gays, and the subjugation of women. It would be a problem anywhere. This is not a free speech issue. This is knowingly advancing the interests of terrorists while in the US.

Regardless of the nuances of the law, it really is profoundly stupid for immigrants to loudly advocate and encourage a terrorist organization. He should probably be deported just for the lack of common sense and decency alone.



So charge him. Get him in front of a judge.
That is the LAW

AS TO YOUR BOLDED, TRUMP SHOULD GO FIRST SINCE YOU CARE ABOUT COMMON SENSE AND DECENCY.
Anonymous
If they can disappear a legal resident Green Card holder, they can disappear you, full American citizen.

Where are all the civil libertarian Republicans? The strict Constitutionalists? Wake up!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:If they can disappear a legal resident Green Card holder, they can disappear you, full American citizen.

Where are all the civil libertarian Republicans? The strict Constitutionalists? Wake up!


MAGA don't think long term
Anonymous
This is the story the Trump administration would like you to be distracted from

Being held, not charged with anything. Your loved ones have no idea where you are or your condition. Absolutely un American

https://www.npr.org/2025/03/10/g-s1-52923/immigration-agents-arrest-palestinian-activist-columbia-protests


"The Department of Homeland Security can initiate deportation proceedings against green card holders for a broad range of alleged criminal activity, including supporting a terror group. But the detention of a legal permanent resident who has not been charged with a crime marked an extraordinary move with an uncertain legal foundation, according to immigration experts

"This has the appearance of a retaliatory action against someone who expressed an opinion the Trump administration didn't like," said Camille Mackler, founder of Immigrant ARC, a coalition of legal service providers in New York"

Anonymous
Male Palestine was no longer a student, he graduated in December, but was still living in student housing. Previous political affairs officer with UNRWA.

https://nypost.com/2025/03/09/us-news/who-is-mahmoud-khalil-the-columbia-university-agitator-detained-by-ice-for-deportation/
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Speech isn't free from consequences. Sounds like he FAFO.

Well done by the Trump administration, perfectly justified


The whole point of Free Speech is those consequences can’t come from the government.

Just admit that you hate the First Amendment.



I never see any evidence that MAGA understands the first amendment. At all. These same people will get mad at Jeff for “censoring their free speech” when he deletes their awful posts from his own website. It’s a common theme with them - they have a loose idea of the concepts, but jumble them up and make it upside down, inside out, or backwards.


As long as “corporations are people” and they get unrestricted speech in the form of political donations that’s all they care about.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Speech isn't free from consequences. Sounds like he FAFO.

Well done by the Trump administration, perfectly justified


The whole point of Free Speech is those consequences can’t come from the government.

Just admit that you hate the First Amendment.


Assaulting people is not free speech, but you know that.

I explained a very basic part of the First Amendment, and you moved the goal posts to assault? Predictable.


Now you are suddenly a free speech absolutist?


I don’t even know what you’re trying to say here. I’m just explaining what Free Speech means for all of us.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Male Palestine was no longer a student, he graduated in December, but was still living in student housing. Previous political affairs officer with UNRWA.

https://nypost.com/2025/03/09/us-news/who-is-mahmoud-khalil-the-columbia-university-agitator-detained-by-ice-for-deportation/


He holds a legal green card.
Anonymous
A greencard holder is a citizen of another country, a foreign national. If you are a foreign national allowed to live here lawfully, then stay like you are thankful to your host nation for allowing you to stay here legally and be gainfully employed. It seems this person was neither and was using his presence here to participate in rabble rousing by practicing his anti-semitist views. There are consequences to that. One of the key principles of what makes a good legal permenant resident worthy of becoming an American citizen eventually one day if they hope to do so, it to comply absolutely with all the laws of the land and try not to act like an American citizen before you qualified to become one.




Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:A greencard holder is a citizen of another country, a foreign national. If you are a foreign national allowed to live here lawfully, then stay like you are thankful to your host nation for allowing you to stay here legally and be gainfully employed. It seems this person was neither and was using his presence here to participate in rabble rousing by practicing his anti-semitist views. There are consequences to that. One of the key principles of what makes a good legal permenant resident worthy of becoming an American citizen eventually one day if they hope to do so, it to comply absolutely with all the laws of the land and try not to act like an American citizen before you qualified to become one.



I agree with all of this. But they can’t revoke his green card without due process. That is the current issue. They need to follow proper channels.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:A greencard holder is a citizen of another country, a foreign national. If you are a foreign national allowed to live here lawfully, then stay like you are thankful to your host nation for allowing you to stay here legally and be gainfully employed. It seems this person was neither and was using his presence here to participate in rabble rousing by practicing his anti-semitist views. There are consequences to that. One of the key principles of what makes a good legal permenant resident worthy of becoming an American citizen eventually one day if they hope to do so, it to comply absolutely with all the laws of the land and try not to act like an American citizen before you qualified to become one.



I agree with all of this. But they can’t revoke his green card without due process. That is the current issue. They need to follow proper channels.


Exactly

This has Trump's greasy fat fingers all over it.
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