Trump govt is deporting Green Card holder student exercising free speech

[Anonymous]

His attorney filed a habeas petition. That will be reviewed by a federal judge or an immigration judge?

[Anonymous]

Again. I suspect Trump knows that he can't just summarily deport this guy. He's scoring points with his base. Trump gets a political win regardless of whether the guy actually gets deported.

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Anonymous wrote:His attorney filed a habeas petition. That will be reviewed by a federal judge or an immigration judge?

I assume that goes before a federal judge.

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Anonymous wrote:Again. I suspect Trump knows that he can't just summarily deport this guy. He's scoring points with his base. Trump gets a political win regardless of whether the guy actually gets deported.

Doubt it. Obviously ICE didn't know that he had a green card rather than visa. And Trump doesn't care.

However, our immigration system doesn't operate at the whim of the president. This man will have his rights properly protected, just like anyone else. No matter what the president, or the ADL, tweets.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A greencard holder is a citizen of another country, a foreign national. If you are a foreign national allowed to live here lawfully, then stay like you are thankful to your host nation for allowing you to stay here legally and be gainfully employed. It seems this person was neither and was using his presence here to participate in rabble rousing by practicing his anti-semitist views. There are consequences to that. One of the key principles of what makes a good legal permenant resident worthy of becoming an American citizen eventually one day if they hope to do so, it to comply absolutely with all the laws of the land and try not to act like an American citizen before you qualified to become one.

I agree with all of this. But they can’t revoke his green card without due process. That is the current issue. They need to follow proper channels.

And they will, the State Dept. is who can initiate that, it seems they will go that route. Meanwhile they can lawfully hold him for any charges they found. No sympathy for a foreign national who chose to wage war against his host nation. Yes, it is waging war when you are a foreign national who disagree with government position of another foreign nation. US Citizens can protest because it is our government, and we elected our government, therefore we have the right to protest those policies. This person clearly has no business protesting US foreign policy and he can go back to where he came from.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:A greencard holder is a citizen of another country, a foreign national. If you are a foreign national allowed to live here lawfully, then stay like you are thankful to your host nation for allowing you to stay here legally and be gainfully employed. It seems this person was neither and was using his presence here to participate in rabble rousing by practicing his anti-semitist views. There are consequences to that. One of the key principles of what makes a good legal permenant resident worthy of becoming an American citizen eventually one day if they hope to do so, it to comply absolutely with all the laws of the land and try not to act like an American citizen before you qualified to become one.

I agree with all of this. But they can’t revoke his green card without due process. That is the current issue. They need to follow proper channels.

And they will, the State Dept. is who can initiate that, it seems they will go that route. Meanwhile they can lawfully hold him for any charges they found. No sympathy for a foreign national who chose to wage war against his host nation. Yes, it is waging war when you are a foreign national who disagree with government position of another foreign nation. US Citizens can protest because it is our government, and we elected our government, therefore we have the right to protest those policies. This person clearly has no business protesting US foreign policy and he can go back to where he came from.

Lawfully, without any indication that he is violent or a danger, no they can't. SMH

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Anonymous wrote:A greencard holder is a citizen of another country, a foreign national. If you are a foreign national allowed to live here lawfully, then stay like you are thankful to your host nation for allowing you to stay here legally and be gainfully employed. It seems this person was neither and was using his presence here to participate in rabble rousing by practicing his anti-semitist views. There are consequences to that. One of the key principles of what makes a good legal permenant resident worthy of becoming an American citizen eventually one day if they hope to do so, it to comply absolutely with all the laws of the land and try not to act like an American citizen before you qualified to become one.

I agree with all of this. But they can’t revoke his green card without due process. That is the current issue. They need to follow proper channels.

And they will, the State Dept. is who can initiate that, it seems they will go that route. Meanwhile they can lawfully hold him for any charges they found. No sympathy for a foreign national who chose to wage war against his host nation. Yes, it is waging war when you are a foreign national who disagree with government position of another foreign nation. US Citizens can protest because it is our government, and we elected our government, therefore we have the right to protest those policies. This person clearly has no business protesting US foreign policy and he can go back to where he came from.

Lawfully, without any indication that he is violent or a danger, no they can't. SMH

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And where is he? El Salvador?.who knows?

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Anonymous wrote:When you are overtly advocating for violent terrorism, this is a risk. He was espousing terroristic activity. It’s literally a law.

What does “espousing terroristic activity” mean? What law? Stop making stuff up. Last time I checked, the First Amendment was actually the law. I’m Jewish and don’t agree with what this person said or did, but I am appalled by this arrest and the notion that lawful residents are being deported for exercising free speech.

He was not deported but sent to Louisiana.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Again. I suspect Trump knows that he can't just summarily deport this guy. He's scoring points with his base. Trump gets a political win regardless of whether the guy actually gets deported.

Doubt it. Obviously ICE didn't know that he had a green card rather than visa. And Trump doesn't care.

However, our immigration system doesn't operate at the whim of the president. This man will have his rights properly protected, just like anyone else. No matter what the president, or the ADL, tweets.

The immigration system does largely fall under the president's authority.

Fortunately, the independent judiciary does not.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A greencard holder is a citizen of another country, a foreign national. If you are a foreign national allowed to live here lawfully, then stay like you are thankful to your host nation for allowing you to stay here legally and be gainfully employed. It seems this person was neither and was using his presence here to participate in rabble rousing by practicing his anti-semitist views. There are consequences to that. One of the key principles of what makes a good legal permenant resident worthy of becoming an American citizen eventually one day if they hope to do so, it to comply absolutely with all the laws of the land and try not to act like an American citizen before you qualified to become one.

I agree with all of this. But they can’t revoke his green card without due process. That is the current issue. They need to follow proper channels.

And they will, the State Dept. is who can initiate that, it seems they will go that route. Meanwhile they can lawfully hold him for any charges they found. No sympathy for a foreign national who chose to wage war against his host nation. Yes, it is waging war when you are a foreign national who disagree with government position of another foreign nation. US Citizens can protest because it is our government, and we elected our government, therefore we have the right to protest those policies. This person clearly has no business protesting US foreign policy and he can go back to where he came from.

I love how sure you are of your nonsense.

That's real "make America great again" energy

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:A greencard holder is a citizen of another country, a foreign national. If you are a foreign national allowed to live here lawfully, then stay like you are thankful to your host nation for allowing you to stay here legally and be gainfully employed. It seems this person was neither and was using his presence here to participate in rabble rousing by practicing his anti-semitist views. There are consequences to that. One of the key principles of what makes a good legal permenant resident worthy of becoming an American citizen eventually one day if they hope to do so, it to comply absolutely with all the laws of the land and try not to act like an American citizen before you qualified to become one.

I agree with all of this. But they can’t revoke his green card without due process. That is the current issue. They need to follow proper channels.

And they will, the State Dept. is who can initiate that, it seems they will go that route. Meanwhile they can lawfully hold him for any charges they found. No sympathy for a foreign national who chose to wage war against his host nation. Yes, it is waging war when you are a foreign national who disagree with government position of another foreign nation. US Citizens can protest because it is our government, and we elected our government, therefore we have the right to protest those policies. This person clearly has no business protesting US foreign policy and he can go back to where he came from.

Lawfully, without any indication that he is violent or a danger, no they can't. SMH

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And where is he? El Salvador?.who knows?

Read the article to answer your question

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When you are overtly advocating for violent terrorism, this is a risk. He was espousing terroristic activity. It’s literally a law.

What does “espousing terroristic activity” mean? What law? Stop making stuff up. Last time I checked, the First Amendment was actually the law. I’m Jewish and don’t agree with what this person said or did, but I am appalled by this arrest and the notion that lawful residents are being deported for exercising free speech.

He was not deported but sent to Louisiana.

Sure because they bundled and didn't realize (how?) That he had a green card. You'd think they have a list or something..

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Pretty bold action on his part for a non-citizen. Maybe this will work out for him and maybe it won’t, but he was pretty reckless. I can’t imagine behaving such a way in a country where I am but a guest.

+1

I don’t understand why he was involved in the Columbia protests. He got the opportunity of a lifetime to come to the US.

Agree with both of these PPs. We'll see what happens as the case works its way through the courts. But, the Trump administration did the right thing here and I'm pretty sure lots of people agree.

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* bungled

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Anonymous wrote:This is potentially a bad precedent. It will have to go through the courts. The mitigating factor is advocating for Hamas - an officially designated terrorist organization. Yes, we have free speech. But foreign citizens - even Green Card holders - advocating for violent religious extremists like Hamas becomes a national security concern. Hamas is well known for suicide bombings, blowing up buses and restaurants, torture, slavery, kidnappings and so on. Green Card holders seeking to increase the influence of Hamas in America - and college campuses in particular - is definitely pushing some legal boundaries.

Supporting Palestine people's right to live is not supporting Hamas. I bet you to find documentation that shows he supported Hamas (as in holding posters for Hamas support, sending money to Hamas or fighting in the Hamas group). Students who protested against the war protested because of human rights violations and international war law violations. This is Trump flexing his autocratic muscle to redefine "Hamas support".