Colombia blocks deportation flights, Trump responds with tariffs

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Anonymous wrote:Colombia's issue is that these flights are being done inhumanely and they don't know who's on these planes.

Brazil is "outraged" with how their deportation flights were handled. Remember, these aren't deadly criminals.

Edgar Da Silva Moura, a 31-year-old computer technician, was on the flight, after seven months in detention in the United States.

“On the plane they didn’t give us water, we were tied hands and feet, they wouldn’t even let us go to the bathroom,” he told AFP.

“It was very hot, some people fainted.”

Luis Antonio Rodrigues Santos, a 21-year-old freelancer, recounted the “nightmare” of people with “respiratory problems” during “four hours without air conditioning” due to technical issues on the plane.

“Things have already changed (with Trump), immigrants are treated as criminals,” he said.

The flight was originally destined for the southeastern city of Belo Horizonte, but encountered a technical issue forcing it to land in Manaus.

A government source told AFP the deportation flight was not directly linked to any immigration orders issued by Trump upon taking office Monday, but rather stemmed from a 2017 bilateral agreement.

Brazil’s Minister of Human Rights, Macae Evaristo, told journalists that “children with autism ... who went through very serious experiences” were also on the flight.

Footage on Brazilian television showed some passengers descending from the civilian aircraft, with their hands handcuffed and their ankles shackled.

“Upon learning of the situation, President Lula ordered that a Brazilian Air Force (FAB) aircraft be mobilised to transport the Brazilians to their final destination, in order to ensure that they could complete their journey with dignity and safety,” the justice ministry said.

https://www.france24.com/en/americas/20250126-brazil-outraged-after-us-deportees-arrive-handcuffed-colombia-to-refuse-us-deportation-flights

FAFO.

Maybe don’t illegally stay in a country.

F you. If we deport, I prefer to do it in a humane way, because we are AMERICA. But sure, let's act just like these awful countries we think we are so much better than.

What is inhumane about a C-130? You do know that is how our troops are transported, right? There is nothing inhumane about it. They are literally made to carry people and cargo

Did you read ANYTHING before the quoted post? Not humane at all.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:How are these military transports inhumane? Are they chained up in there?

The one to Brazil, yes. Handcuffs, ankle chains, evidence of beatings, no food no water no toilet. Men, women and children. Not one of whom was alleged to have committed a crime.

Can you link to a credible source? I didn’t find anything.

Every major newspaper has it. Reuters. France 24. Yahoo. You aren’t looking very hard.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Colombia's issue is that these flights are being done inhumanely and they don't know who's on these planes.

Brazil is "outraged" with how their deportation flights were handled. Remember, these aren't deadly criminals.

Edgar Da Silva Moura, a 31-year-old computer technician, was on the flight, after seven months in detention in the United States.

“On the plane they didn’t give us water, we were tied hands and feet, they wouldn’t even let us go to the bathroom,” he told AFP.

“It was very hot, some people fainted.”

Luis Antonio Rodrigues Santos, a 21-year-old freelancer, recounted the “nightmare” of people with “respiratory problems” during “four hours without air conditioning” due to technical issues on the plane.

“Things have already changed (with Trump), immigrants are treated as criminals,” he said.

The flight was originally destined for the southeastern city of Belo Horizonte, but encountered a technical issue forcing it to land in Manaus.

A government source told AFP the deportation flight was not directly linked to any immigration orders issued by Trump upon taking office Monday, but rather stemmed from a 2017 bilateral agreement.

Brazil’s Minister of Human Rights, Macae Evaristo, told journalists that “children with autism ... who went through very serious experiences” were also on the flight.

Footage on Brazilian television showed some passengers descending from the civilian aircraft, with their hands handcuffed and their ankles shackled.

“Upon learning of the situation, President Lula ordered that a Brazilian Air Force (FAB) aircraft be mobilised to transport the Brazilians to their final destination, in order to ensure that they could complete their journey with dignity and safety,” the justice ministry said.

https://www.france24.com/en/americas/20250126-brazil-outraged-after-us-deportees-arrive-handcuffed-colombia-to-refuse-us-deportation-flights

Brazil has informed Rubio that should this happen again the flight crew will be arrested and detained for violating the civil rights of Brazilian citizens. Lula is seriously pissed.

And really he won't care about threats of tariffs. He'll just sell soy, oil, steel, coffee, sugar, etc. to China. He already proved he will stand up to US bullying when he opened the commodities markets to transactions based on yuan and not just dollars and reais. Pissed Biden off with that.

Brazil is free to lease Gulfstreams to take back their illegal citizens. But it's unreasonable to object to the US using C-130s. At the very least, the US should be billing Brazil for the trouble. If Brazilians want to pay for a comfortable plane with meal service for their illegal migrants, they certainly can.

You realize there are MOUs in place right? But Brazil didn’t object to the use of military aircraft. They objected to their citizens being in handcuffs and ankle chains. They objected to their citizens being beaten onboard that flight. They objected to their citizens not being given water (or food).

Trump is welcome to do so again. But Brazil will arrest and detain the American flight crew. They will try them and jail them for violating the criminal laws of the country. In this case, it would have been 24 Americans. And they will begin requiring that all of these crew members have valid passports and, beginning April 10, visas. Otherwise they will be detained and deported. And the plane impounded until a lawful flight crew goes and gets it.

What Trump and his minions, like you, don’t get is that people won’t put up with the disrespect. Enough tariffs and the US will find itself very alone in this world. The “third world” as you like to call them, has a lot of experience dealing with hardship. Unlike pansy-a**es like you.

Wasn't a military aircraft, per the article I read. It was probably a leased aircraft. The people on board are criminals being repatriated to their country, hence the restraints. The safety of the crew and other passengers are more important in this situation. It makes sense that those working the flight should be subject to the same requirements of international crews stopping in Brazil.

But overall, you sound unhinged.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Colombia's issue is that these flights are being done inhumanely and they don't know who's on these planes.

Brazil is "outraged" with how their deportation flights were handled. Remember, these aren't deadly criminals.

Edgar Da Silva Moura, a 31-year-old computer technician, was on the flight, after seven months in detention in the United States.

“On the plane they didn’t give us water, we were tied hands and feet, they wouldn’t even let us go to the bathroom,” he told AFP.

“It was very hot, some people fainted.”

Luis Antonio Rodrigues Santos, a 21-year-old freelancer, recounted the “nightmare” of people with “respiratory problems” during “four hours without air conditioning” due to technical issues on the plane.

“Things have already changed (with Trump), immigrants are treated as criminals,” he said.

The flight was originally destined for the southeastern city of Belo Horizonte, but encountered a technical issue forcing it to land in Manaus.

A government source told AFP the deportation flight was not directly linked to any immigration orders issued by Trump upon taking office Monday, but rather stemmed from a 2017 bilateral agreement.

Brazil’s Minister of Human Rights, Macae Evaristo, told journalists that “children with autism ... who went through very serious experiences” were also on the flight.

Footage on Brazilian television showed some passengers descending from the civilian aircraft, with their hands handcuffed and their ankles shackled.

“Upon learning of the situation, President Lula ordered that a Brazilian Air Force (FAB) aircraft be mobilised to transport the Brazilians to their final destination, in order to ensure that they could complete their journey with dignity and safety,” the justice ministry said.

https://www.france24.com/en/americas/20250126-brazil-outraged-after-us-deportees-arrive-handcuffed-colombia-to-refuse-us-deportation-flights

Brazil has informed Rubio that should this happen again the flight crew will be arrested and detained for violating the civil rights of Brazilian citizens. Lula is seriously pissed.

And really he won't care about threats of tariffs. He'll just sell soy, oil, steel, coffee, sugar, etc. to China. He already proved he will stand up to US bullying when he opened the commodities markets to transactions based on yuan and not just dollars and reais. Pissed Biden off with that.

Brazil is free to lease Gulfstreams to take back their illegal citizens. But it's unreasonable to object to the US using C-130s. At the very least, the US should be billing Brazil for the trouble. If Brazilians want to pay for a comfortable plane with meal service for their illegal migrants, they certainly can.

You realize there are MOUs in place right? But Brazil didn’t object to the use of military aircraft. They objected to their citizens being in handcuffs and ankle chains. They objected to their citizens being beaten onboard that flight. They objected to their citizens not being given water (or food).

Trump is welcome to do so again. But Brazil will arrest and detain the American flight crew. They will try them and jail them for violating the criminal laws of the country. In this case, it would have been 24 Americans. And they will begin requiring that all of these crew members have valid passports and, beginning April 10, visas. Otherwise they will be detained and deported. And the plane impounded until a lawful flight crew goes and gets it.

What Trump and his minions, like you, don’t get is that people won’t put up with the disrespect. Enough tariffs and the US will find itself very alone in this world. The “third world” as you like to call them, has a lot of experience dealing with hardship. Unlike pansy-a**es like you.

Then you know what you do? You fill up aircraft carriers with illegal migrants. You park right off the coast of Brazil and send them back to their shores by boats accompanied by gun boats and submarines if needed. Brazil is more than welcome to try and take on the full might of the USN.

Trump will start a full blown war. Invade another country. All b ‘cause Trump refuses to abide by the laws of another country. While in that country. And this guy’s your hero.

You are a pathetic human who believes bullies are strong. What’s it like worshipping the world’s biggest pu**y?

I’d be ok with staying in international waters, throwing the overboard and tell them to swim.

If they are such precious cargo, the Brazilian navy can retrieve them.

[Anonymous]

Well he caved quickly and then donated the presidential plane for more deportations.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Colombia's issue is that these flights are being done inhumanely and they don't know who's on these planes.

Brazil is "outraged" with how their deportation flights were handled. Remember, these aren't deadly criminals.

Edgar Da Silva Moura, a 31-year-old computer technician, was on the flight, after seven months in detention in the United States.

“On the plane they didn’t give us water, we were tied hands and feet, they wouldn’t even let us go to the bathroom,” he told AFP.

“It was very hot, some people fainted.”

Luis Antonio Rodrigues Santos, a 21-year-old freelancer, recounted the “nightmare” of people with “respiratory problems” during “four hours without air conditioning” due to technical issues on the plane.

“Things have already changed (with Trump), immigrants are treated as criminals,” he said.

The flight was originally destined for the southeastern city of Belo Horizonte, but encountered a technical issue forcing it to land in Manaus.

A government source told AFP the deportation flight was not directly linked to any immigration orders issued by Trump upon taking office Monday, but rather stemmed from a 2017 bilateral agreement.

Brazil’s Minister of Human Rights, Macae Evaristo, told journalists that “children with autism ... who went through very serious experiences” were also on the flight.

Footage on Brazilian television showed some passengers descending from the civilian aircraft, with their hands handcuffed and their ankles shackled.

“Upon learning of the situation, President Lula ordered that a Brazilian Air Force (FAB) aircraft be mobilised to transport the Brazilians to their final destination, in order to ensure that they could complete their journey with dignity and safety,” the justice ministry said.

https://www.france24.com/en/americas/20250126-brazil-outraged-after-us-deportees-arrive-handcuffed-colombia-to-refuse-us-deportation-flights

Brazil has informed Rubio that should this happen again the flight crew will be arrested and detained for violating the civil rights of Brazilian citizens. Lula is seriously pissed.

And really he won't care about threats of tariffs. He'll just sell soy, oil, steel, coffee, sugar, etc. to China. He already proved he will stand up to US bullying when he opened the commodities markets to transactions based on yuan and not just dollars and reais. Pissed Biden off with that.

Brazil is free to lease Gulfstreams to take back their illegal citizens. But it's unreasonable to object to the US using C-130s. At the very least, the US should be billing Brazil for the trouble. If Brazilians want to pay for a comfortable plane with meal service for their illegal migrants, they certainly can.

You realize there are MOUs in place right? But Brazil didn’t object to the use of military aircraft. They objected to their citizens being in handcuffs and ankle chains. They objected to their citizens being beaten onboard that flight. They objected to their citizens not being given water (or food).

Trump is welcome to do so again. But Brazil will arrest and detain the American flight crew. They will try them and jail them for violating the criminal laws of the country. In this case, it would have been 24 Americans. And they will begin requiring that all of these crew members have valid passports and, beginning April 10, visas. Otherwise they will be detained and deported. And the plane impounded until a lawful flight crew goes and gets it.

What Trump and his minions, like you, don’t get is that people won’t put up with the disrespect. Enough tariffs and the US will find itself very alone in this world. The “third world” as you like to call them, has a lot of experience dealing with hardship. Unlike pansy-a**es like you.

Then you know what you do? You fill up aircraft carriers with illegal migrants. You park right off the coast of Brazil and send them back to their shores by boats accompanied by gun boats and submarines if needed. Brazil is more than welcome to try and take on the full might of the USN.

Trump will start a full blown war. Invade another country. All b ‘cause Trump refuses to abide by the laws of another country. While in that country. And this guy’s your hero.

You are a pathetic human who believes bullies are strong. What’s it like worshipping the world’s biggest pu**y?

I’d be ok with staying in international waters, throwing the overboard and tell them to swim.

If they are such precious cargo, the Brazilian navy can retrieve them.

This sounds fine to me too. Tell them where and when, and see how much they care about their citizens.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:There is a process if countries don't take back their deported citizens the US can then not issue visas to that country so their citizens can travel to the United States.

So the threat of elite Colombians or Brazilians not being able to fly to Orlando to visit Disneyworld, go shopping in LA or NYC is actually is a serious threat. A lot of wealthy Colombians and Brazilians have condos in Florida.

Do it. No mercy.

And we really need to tax remittances at 90%. That is the whole reason they don’t want their citizens back, they make too much money on remittances.

Cut it all off.

Yes, any country that refuses to take their citizens back should be slammed with a freeze on all electronic remittances. Suspend mail so they can't mail back cash.

Make life here not worth it. Illegal immigration will decline significantly.

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Anonymous wrote:I love Colombia, been there many times, but they need to learn a lesson on this one. And while it looks like they are caving immediately, Trump needs to leave the measures in place for several months at least as a punishment. They need to feel the pain of defying us, and need to serve as an example to other nations. Even thought I love coffee, I’m sure we will be just fine!! That said, I’m also glad I have a second passport and will travel on that one for the time being!!

Agreed. There should be at least 3 month punishment for this defiance. At least.

Like they are toddlers? Why do you think they don't control their own air space.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Well he caved quickly and then donated the presidential plane for more deportations.

Source?

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/colombias-petro-will-not-allow-us-planes-return-migrants-2025-01-26/

This is an interesting development. Colombia said they wouldn’t take back their own citizens so Trump is enacting tariffs and other measures.

Personally, I think this is a great move. It is the responsibility of the host nation to repatriate their citizens. I do not understand why Colombia won’t welcome their own people back.

i might move there

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Well he caved quickly and then donated the presidential plane for more deportations.

Source?

The old dcum favorite. https://thehill.com/policy/international/5107740-colombia-presidential-plane-honduras-us-deportation-flights/

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:How are these military transports inhumane? Are they chained up in there?

The one to Brazil, yes. Handcuffs, ankle chains, evidence of beatings, no food no water no toilet. Men, women and children. Not one of whom was alleged to have committed a crime.

What are you even talking about? Why would they chain up all these people if they were not guilty of crimes?

And how do they get the staff to treat people like that? Who is putting the people on these flights and supervising them on the flights? How do they get them to put the people in chains?

Did you ever see the photos of how people were treated at Guantanamo? Who do you think did that? US Military personnel.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How are these military transports inhumane? Are they chained up in there?

The one to Brazil, yes. Handcuffs, ankle chains, evidence of beatings, no food no water no toilet. Men, women and children. Not one of whom was alleged to have committed a crime.

Can you link to a credible source? I didn’t find anything.

Every major newspaper has it. Reuters. France 24. Yahoo. You aren’t looking very hard.

The PP needs to provide sources. She sounds hysterical.

https://www.france24.com/en/americas/20250126-brazil-outraged-after-us-deportees-arrive-handcuffed-colombia-to-refuse-us-deportation-flights

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I love Colombia, been there many times, but they need to learn a lesson on this one. And while it looks like they are caving immediately, Trump needs to leave the measures in place for several months at least as a punishment. They need to feel the pain of defying us, and need to serve as an example to other nations. Even thought I love coffee, I’m sure we will be just fine!! That said, I’m also glad I have a second passport and will travel on that one for the time being!!

Agreed. There should be at least 3 month punishment for this defiance. At least.

Like they are toddlers? Why do you think they don't control their own air space.

They can keep their airspace. Along with their coffee, fruit and oil.

It will hurt them more than us.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How are these military transports inhumane? Are they chained up in there?

The one to Brazil, yes. Handcuffs, ankle chains, evidence of beatings, no food no water no toilet. Men, women and children. Not one of whom was alleged to have committed a crime.

Can you link to a credible source? I didn’t find anything.

Every major newspaper has it. Reuters. France 24. Yahoo. You aren’t looking very hard.

You are right, they were there.

I am ok with the deportation but they should not be mistreated.