Colombia blocks deportation flights, Trump responds with tariffs

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Colombia's issue is that these flights are being done inhumanely and they don't know who's on these planes.

Brazil is "outraged" with how their deportation flights were handled. Remember, these aren't deadly criminals.

Edgar Da Silva Moura, a 31-year-old computer technician, was on the flight, after seven months in detention in the United States.

“On the plane they didn’t give us water, we were tied hands and feet, they wouldn’t even let us go to the bathroom,” he told AFP.

“It was very hot, some people fainted.”

Luis Antonio Rodrigues Santos, a 21-year-old freelancer, recounted the “nightmare” of people with “respiratory problems” during “four hours without air conditioning” due to technical issues on the plane.


“Things have already changed (with Trump), immigrants are treated as criminals,” he said.

The flight was originally destined for the southeastern city of Belo Horizonte, but encountered a technical issue forcing it to land in Manaus.

A government source told AFP the deportation flight was not directly linked to any immigration orders issued by Trump upon taking office Monday, but rather stemmed from a 2017 bilateral agreement.

Brazil’s Minister of Human Rights, Macae Evaristo, told journalists that “children with autism ... who went through very serious experiences” were also on the flight.

Footage on Brazilian television showed some passengers descending from the civilian aircraft, with their hands handcuffed and their ankles shackled.

“Upon learning of the situation, President Lula ordered that a Brazilian Air Force (FAB) aircraft be mobilised to transport the Brazilians to their final destination, in order to ensure that they could complete their journey with dignity and safety,” the justice ministry said.


https://www.france24.com/en/americas/20250126...-deportation-flights


Pretty sure their trek into the US was more harrowing


Brazilians? Well yes, if they flew Avianca. Brazilians don't walk into the US. They fly. And stay.



Then they become nannies in the suburbs. Then they have affairs with the husbands, convincing the wife to join in and then bringing in single men as a 4th, the eventually becoming part of a plot to kill the wife and frame a guy they were swinging with for the murders.
Anonymous
You really think Trump cares about the US being the good guys? He wants to be a strong man dictator. There are libraries of books with the tactics of guys like Trump. Sadly, we all have a front seat to this insanity and this.will.not.end.wrell.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Colombia's issue is that these flights are being done inhumanely and they don't know who's on these planes.

Brazil is "outraged" with how their deportation flights were handled. Remember, these aren't deadly criminals.

Edgar Da Silva Moura, a 31-year-old computer technician, was on the flight, after seven months in detention in the United States.

“On the plane they didn’t give us water, we were tied hands and feet, they wouldn’t even let us go to the bathroom,” he told AFP.

“It was very hot, some people fainted.”

Luis Antonio Rodrigues Santos, a 21-year-old freelancer, recounted the “nightmare” of people with “respiratory problems” during “four hours without air conditioning” due to technical issues on the plane.


“Things have already changed (with Trump), immigrants are treated as criminals,” he said.

The flight was originally destined for the southeastern city of Belo Horizonte, but encountered a technical issue forcing it to land in Manaus.

A government source told AFP the deportation flight was not directly linked to any immigration orders issued by Trump upon taking office Monday, but rather stemmed from a 2017 bilateral agreement.

Brazil’s Minister of Human Rights, Macae Evaristo, told journalists that “children with autism ... who went through very serious experiences” were also on the flight.

Footage on Brazilian television showed some passengers descending from the civilian aircraft, with their hands handcuffed and their ankles shackled.

“Upon learning of the situation, President Lula ordered that a Brazilian Air Force (FAB) aircraft be mobilised to transport the Brazilians to their final destination, in order to ensure that they could complete their journey with dignity and safety,” the justice ministry said.


https://www.france24.com/en/americas/20250126...-deportation-flights


Pretty sure their trek into the US was more harrowing


Did you know that 2/3 of illegal immigrants in the US are people who overstayed their visas? But yeah, people walking across the "open border" with Mexico is the problem.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:You all are cute. I suspect it's a lot more expensive to fly military plains than civilian flights. Who is paying for that? You are. Enjoy your coffee while you can afford it.


Right? $850,000 to send 80 migrants back to Colombia only to be turned around.

We’ve been deporting on civilian flights since the 50s. If you want to toss 1.3 million dollars worth of military flights around for a total of 400 illegals immigrants, don’t complain that the government is inefficient and wasteful.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/colombias-petro-will-not-allow-us-planes-return-migrants-2025-01-26/

This is an interesting development. Colombia said they wouldn’t take back their own citizens so Trump is enacting tariffs and other measures.

Personally, I think this is a great move. It is the responsibility of the host nation to repatriate their citizens. I do not understand why Colombia won’t welcome their own people back.


They don’t have any issues taking their migrants back. They are demanding they are returned on civilian flights like humans.

To me, that’s a fair ask.


Will their govt pay for it?


What? This is why TSA leases commercial airplanes and ships illegals back on regular aircraft. It’s also cheaper. But this is what happens when you take the approach of just doing crap without thinking it through. Typical for this administration. Just come up with an idea and make it happen without any thought.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Colombia's issue is that these flights are being done inhumanely and they don't know who's on these planes.

Brazil is "outraged" with how their deportation flights were handled. Remember, these aren't deadly criminals.

Edgar Da Silva Moura, a 31-year-old computer technician, was on the flight, after seven months in detention in the United States.

“On the plane they didn’t give us water, we were tied hands and feet, they wouldn’t even let us go to the bathroom,” he told AFP.

“It was very hot, some people fainted.”

Luis Antonio Rodrigues Santos, a 21-year-old freelancer, recounted the “nightmare” of people with “respiratory problems” during “four hours without air conditioning” due to technical issues on the plane.


“Things have already changed (with Trump), immigrants are treated as criminals,” he said.

The flight was originally destined for the southeastern city of Belo Horizonte, but encountered a technical issue forcing it to land in Manaus.

A government source told AFP the deportation flight was not directly linked to any immigration orders issued by Trump upon taking office Monday, but rather stemmed from a 2017 bilateral agreement.

Brazil’s Minister of Human Rights, Macae Evaristo, told journalists that “children with autism ... who went through very serious experiences” were also on the flight.

Footage on Brazilian television showed some passengers descending from the civilian aircraft, with their hands handcuffed and their ankles shackled.

“Upon learning of the situation, President Lula ordered that a Brazilian Air Force (FAB) aircraft be mobilised to transport the Brazilians to their final destination, in order to ensure that they could complete their journey with dignity and safety,” the justice ministry said.


https://www.france24.com/en/americas/20250126...-deportation-flights


Pretty sure their trek into the US was more harrowing


Did you know that 2/3 of illegal immigrants in the US are people who overstayed their visas? But yeah, people walking across the "open border" with Mexico is the problem.


Colombians and Brazilians did not come here on foot.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You all are cute. I suspect it's a lot more expensive to fly military plains than civilian flights. Who is paying for that? You are. Enjoy your coffee while you can afford it.


Right? $850,000 to send 80 migrants back to Colombia only to be turned around.

We’ve been deporting on civilian flights since the 50s. If you want to toss 1.3 million dollars worth of military flights around for a total of 400 illegals immigrants, don’t complain that the government is inefficient and wasteful.


TSA sends the same flight for just over $8,000. But Trump and Winning.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Colombia's issue is that these flights are being done inhumanely and they don't know who's on these planes.

Brazil is "outraged" with how their deportation flights were handled. Remember, these aren't deadly criminals.

Edgar Da Silva Moura, a 31-year-old computer technician, was on the flight, after seven months in detention in the United States.

“On the plane they didn’t give us water, we were tied hands and feet, they wouldn’t even let us go to the bathroom,” he told AFP.

“It was very hot, some people fainted.”

Luis Antonio Rodrigues Santos, a 21-year-old freelancer, recounted the “nightmare” of people with “respiratory problems” during “four hours without air conditioning” due to technical issues on the plane.


“Things have already changed (with Trump), immigrants are treated as criminals,” he said.

The flight was originally destined for the southeastern city of Belo Horizonte, but encountered a technical issue forcing it to land in Manaus.

A government source told AFP the deportation flight was not directly linked to any immigration orders issued by Trump upon taking office Monday, but rather stemmed from a 2017 bilateral agreement.

Brazil’s Minister of Human Rights, Macae Evaristo, told journalists that “children with autism ... who went through very serious experiences” were also on the flight.

Footage on Brazilian television showed some passengers descending from the civilian aircraft, with their hands handcuffed and their ankles shackled.

“Upon learning of the situation, President Lula ordered that a Brazilian Air Force (FAB) aircraft be mobilised to transport the Brazilians to their final destination, in order to ensure that they could complete their journey with dignity and safety,” the justice ministry said.


https://www.france24.com/en/americas/20250126...-deportation-flights


Brazil has informed Rubio that should this happen again the flight crew will be arrested and detained for violating the civil rights of Brazilian citizens. Lula is seriously pissed.

And really he won't care about threats of tariffs. He'll just sell soy, oil, steel, coffee, sugar, etc. to China. He already proved he will stand up to US bullying when he opened the commodities markets to transactions based on yuan and not just dollars and reais. Pissed Biden off with that.


If he cares so much, he can buy plane tickets for his beloved citizens. He should focus on making his own country better/safer so its own citizens don't have to illegally stay in another country and be subjected to such "undignified" treatments
Anonymous
Is there any actual evidence of 'mistreatment'? Or is this complaining because they didn't get white glove treatment and first class seats back home?

You can't dump millions of your citizens into another country and then refuse to take them back when the other country sends them back home.

Maybe millions of Americans should go fly over to Japan, illegally stay over there, then the US should refuse to take back our citizens when Japan sends them back? Absolutely unreal entitlement BS from Latin American countries.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You all are cute. I suspect it's a lot more expensive to fly military plains than civilian flights. Who is paying for that? You are. Enjoy your coffee while you can afford it.


Right? $850,000 to send 80 migrants back to Colombia only to be turned around.

We’ve been deporting on civilian flights since the 50s. If you want to toss 1.3 million dollars worth of military flights around for a total of 400 illegals immigrants, don’t complain that the government is inefficient and wasteful.


TSA sends the same flight for just over $8,000. But Trump and Winning.


If anything they should encourage self deportation and ensure safe conditions. I imagine it’s cheaper that way than sending out ICE agents to hunt these people down.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Is there any actual evidence of 'mistreatment'? Or is this complaining because they didn't get white glove treatment and first class seats back home?

You can't dump millions of your citizens into another country and then refuse to take them back when the other country sends them back home.

Maybe millions of Americans should go fly over to Japan, illegally stay over there, then the US should refuse to take back our citizens when Japan sends them back? Absolutely unreal entitlement BS from Latin American countries.


How would you feel if the hundeds of people who overstayed visas in Great Britain (and I guarantee you there are in fact hundreds of people at this moment in that category) were dumped off in the US via a British military flight after being denied the chance to use the toilet for 24 hours. What if it was your daughter. Of course they are offended. Were are physically treating their citizens as if they are cattle, and then we are going to their country thinking we can get away with it and still have normal relationships with them? Pretend they are people equal to you and then think about it again.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/colombias-petro-will-not-allow-us-planes-return-migrants-2025-01-26/

This is an interesting development. Colombia said they wouldn’t take back their own citizens so Trump is enacting tariffs and other measures.

Personally, I think this is a great move. It is the responsibility of the host nation to repatriate their citizens. I do not understand why Colombia won’t welcome their own people back.


They don’t have any issues taking their migrants back. They are demanding they are returned on civilian flights like humans.

To me, that’s a fair ask.


Something to consider if you care about consumer prices...



FYI, Colombia was due to get $380 million in foreign aid from the US. Was.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Colombia's issue is that these flights are being done inhumanely and they don't know who's on these planes.

Brazil is "outraged" with how their deportation flights were handled. Remember, these aren't deadly criminals.

Edgar Da Silva Moura, a 31-year-old computer technician, was on the flight, after seven months in detention in the United States.

“On the plane they didn’t give us water, we were tied hands and feet, they wouldn’t even let us go to the bathroom,” he told AFP.

“It was very hot, some people fainted.”

Luis Antonio Rodrigues Santos, a 21-year-old freelancer, recounted the “nightmare” of people with “respiratory problems” during “four hours without air conditioning” due to technical issues on the plane.


“Things have already changed (with Trump), immigrants are treated as criminals,” he said.

The flight was originally destined for the southeastern city of Belo Horizonte, but encountered a technical issue forcing it to land in Manaus.

A government source told AFP the deportation flight was not directly linked to any immigration orders issued by Trump upon taking office Monday, but rather stemmed from a 2017 bilateral agreement.

Brazil’s Minister of Human Rights, Macae Evaristo, told journalists that “children with autism ... who went through very serious experiences” were also on the flight.

Footage on Brazilian television showed some passengers descending from the civilian aircraft, with their hands handcuffed and their ankles shackled.

“Upon learning of the situation, President Lula ordered that a Brazilian Air Force (FAB) aircraft be mobilised to transport the Brazilians to their final destination, in order to ensure that they could complete their journey with dignity and safety,” the justice ministry said.


https://www.france24.com/en/americas/20250126...-deportation-flights


Brazil has informed Rubio that should this happen again the flight crew will be arrested and detained for violating the civil rights of Brazilian citizens. Lula is seriously pissed.

And really he won't care about threats of tariffs. He'll just sell soy, oil, steel, coffee, sugar, etc. to China. He already proved he will stand up to US bullying when he opened the commodities markets to transactions based on yuan and not just dollars and reais. Pissed Biden off with that.



Brazil is free to lease Gulfstreams to take back their illegal citizens. But it's unreasonable to object to the US using C-130s. At the very least, the US should be billing Brazil for the trouble. If Brazilians want to pay for a comfortable plane with meal service for their illegal migrants, they certainly can.
Anonymous
What is happening?

Anonymous
Also, if you want more details on the flights and complaints you might try reading the article the OP posted.
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