Colombia blocks deportation flights, Trump responds with tariffs

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Shocking, another Trump tantrum in response to something that he didn’t think through.

Wow, whatever will Colombia do?

https://thediplomat.com/2024/08/evaluating-colombias-strategic-partnership-with-china/

What will Colombia do? They will send their own planes to get their criminals back. Great to have finally a leader who can make things happen.

[Anonymous]

Colombia's issue is that these flights are being done inhumanely and they don't know who's on these planes.

Brazil is "outraged" with how their deportation flights were handled. Remember, these aren't deadly criminals.

Edgar Da Silva Moura, a 31-year-old computer technician, was on the flight, after seven months in detention in the United States.

“On the plane they didn’t give us water, we were tied hands and feet, they wouldn’t even let us go to the bathroom,” he told AFP.

“It was very hot, some people fainted.”

Luis Antonio Rodrigues Santos, a 21-year-old freelancer, recounted the “nightmare” of people with “respiratory problems” during “four hours without air conditioning” due to technical issues on the plane.

“Things have already changed (with Trump), immigrants are treated as criminals,” he said.

The flight was originally destined for the southeastern city of Belo Horizonte, but encountered a technical issue forcing it to land in Manaus.

A government source told AFP the deportation flight was not directly linked to any immigration orders issued by Trump upon taking office Monday, but rather stemmed from a 2017 bilateral agreement.

Brazil’s Minister of Human Rights, Macae Evaristo, told journalists that “children with autism ... who went through very serious experiences” were also on the flight.

Footage on Brazilian television showed some passengers descending from the civilian aircraft, with their hands handcuffed and their ankles shackled.

“Upon learning of the situation, President Lula ordered that a Brazilian Air Force (FAB) aircraft be mobilised to transport the Brazilians to their final destination, in order to ensure that they could complete their journey with dignity and safety,” the justice ministry said.

https://www.france24.com/en/americas/20250126-brazil-outraged-after-us-deportees-arrive-handcuffed-colombia-to-refuse-us-deportation-flights

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Colombia's issue is that these flights are being done inhumanely and they don't know who's on these planes.

Brazil is "outraged" with how their deportation flights were handled. Remember, these aren't deadly criminals.

Edgar Da Silva Moura, a 31-year-old computer technician, was on the flight, after seven months in detention in the United States.

“On the plane they didn’t give us water, we were tied hands and feet, they wouldn’t even let us go to the bathroom,” he told AFP.

“It was very hot, some people fainted.”

Luis Antonio Rodrigues Santos, a 21-year-old freelancer, recounted the “nightmare” of people with “respiratory problems” during “four hours without air conditioning” due to technical issues on the plane.

“Things have already changed (with Trump), immigrants are treated as criminals,” he said.

The flight was originally destined for the southeastern city of Belo Horizonte, but encountered a technical issue forcing it to land in Manaus.

A government source told AFP the deportation flight was not directly linked to any immigration orders issued by Trump upon taking office Monday, but rather stemmed from a 2017 bilateral agreement.

Brazil’s Minister of Human Rights, Macae Evaristo, told journalists that “children with autism ... who went through very serious experiences” were also on the flight.

Footage on Brazilian television showed some passengers descending from the civilian aircraft, with their hands handcuffed and their ankles shackled.

“Upon learning of the situation, President Lula ordered that a Brazilian Air Force (FAB) aircraft be mobilised to transport the Brazilians to their final destination, in order to ensure that they could complete their journey with dignity and safety,” the justice ministry said.

https://www.france24.com/en/americas/20250126-brazil-outraged-after-us-deportees-arrive-handcuffed-colombia-to-refuse-us-deportation-flights

FAFO.

Maybe don’t illegally stay in a country.

[Anonymous]

The concept is great but these are the details that should have been ironed out first. All of Trumps shooting from the hip decisions are now going to bite him in the ass.

[Anonymous]

Caved in already.....

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Colombia's issue is that these flights are being done inhumanely and they don't know who's on these planes.

Brazil is "outraged" with how their deportation flights were handled. Remember, these aren't deadly criminals.

Edgar Da Silva Moura, a 31-year-old computer technician, was on the flight, after seven months in detention in the United States.

“On the plane they didn’t give us water, we were tied hands and feet, they wouldn’t even let us go to the bathroom,” he told AFP.

“It was very hot, some people fainted.”

Luis Antonio Rodrigues Santos, a 21-year-old freelancer, recounted the “nightmare” of people with “respiratory problems” during “four hours without air conditioning” due to technical issues on the plane.

“Things have already changed (with Trump), immigrants are treated as criminals,” he said.

The flight was originally destined for the southeastern city of Belo Horizonte, but encountered a technical issue forcing it to land in Manaus.

A government source told AFP the deportation flight was not directly linked to any immigration orders issued by Trump upon taking office Monday, but rather stemmed from a 2017 bilateral agreement.

Brazil’s Minister of Human Rights, Macae Evaristo, told journalists that “children with autism ... who went through very serious experiences” were also on the flight.

Footage on Brazilian television showed some passengers descending from the civilian aircraft, with their hands handcuffed and their ankles shackled.

“Upon learning of the situation, President Lula ordered that a Brazilian Air Force (FAB) aircraft be mobilised to transport the Brazilians to their final destination, in order to ensure that they could complete their journey with dignity and safety,” the justice ministry said.

https://www.france24.com/en/americas/20250126-brazil-outraged-after-us-deportees-arrive-handcuffed-colombia-to-refuse-us-deportation-flights

If someone dies on one of these flights other countries will seriously start turning on us. It’s inhumane.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Colombia's issue is that these flights are being done inhumanely and they don't know who's on these planes.

Brazil is "outraged" with how their deportation flights were handled. Remember, these aren't deadly criminals.

Edgar Da Silva Moura, a 31-year-old computer technician, was on the flight, after seven months in detention in the United States.

“On the plane they didn’t give us water, we were tied hands and feet, they wouldn’t even let us go to the bathroom,” he told AFP.

“It was very hot, some people fainted.”

Luis Antonio Rodrigues Santos, a 21-year-old freelancer, recounted the “nightmare” of people with “respiratory problems” during “four hours without air conditioning” due to technical issues on the plane.

“Things have already changed (with Trump), immigrants are treated as criminals,” he said.

The flight was originally destined for the southeastern city of Belo Horizonte, but encountered a technical issue forcing it to land in Manaus.

A government source told AFP the deportation flight was not directly linked to any immigration orders issued by Trump upon taking office Monday, but rather stemmed from a 2017 bilateral agreement.

Brazil’s Minister of Human Rights, Macae Evaristo, told journalists that “children with autism ... who went through very serious experiences” were also on the flight.

Footage on Brazilian television showed some passengers descending from the civilian aircraft, with their hands handcuffed and their ankles shackled.

“Upon learning of the situation, President Lula ordered that a Brazilian Air Force (FAB) aircraft be mobilised to transport the Brazilians to their final destination, in order to ensure that they could complete their journey with dignity and safety,” the justice ministry said.

https://www.france24.com/en/americas/20250126-brazil-outraged-after-us-deportees-arrive-handcuffed-colombia-to-refuse-us-deportation-flights

FAFO.

Maybe don’t illegally stay in a country.

They are migrants who waved their right to continue through the overburdened US immigration system and go home instead. The "self-deporters"
Including children. They shouldn't be shackled, denied food and water and the bathroom for hours-long plane flights.

That IS inhumane and we're the f'in United States of America, and we're the good guys. Stop letting Trump try to turn our country into a mirror image of his bullying, sociopathic self.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/colombias-petro-will-not-allow-us-planes-return-migrants-2025-01-26/

This is an interesting development. Colombia said they wouldn’t take back their own citizens so Trump is enacting tariffs and other measures.

Personally, I think this is a great move. It is the responsibility of the host nation to repatriate their citizens. I do not understand why Colombia won’t welcome their own people back.

Because their own people have been working cash jobs and sending cash back.

We've been helping a guy from Medellin who has a wife and 2 children in Colombia.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Colombia's issue is that these flights are being done inhumanely and they don't know who's on these planes.

Brazil is "outraged" with how their deportation flights were handled. Remember, these aren't deadly criminals.

Edgar Da Silva Moura, a 31-year-old computer technician, was on the flight, after seven months in detention in the United States.

“On the plane they didn’t give us water, we were tied hands and feet, they wouldn’t even let us go to the bathroom,” he told AFP.

“It was very hot, some people fainted.”

Luis Antonio Rodrigues Santos, a 21-year-old freelancer, recounted the “nightmare” of people with “respiratory problems” during “four hours without air conditioning” due to technical issues on the plane.

“Things have already changed (with Trump), immigrants are treated as criminals,” he said.

The flight was originally destined for the southeastern city of Belo Horizonte, but encountered a technical issue forcing it to land in Manaus.

A government source told AFP the deportation flight was not directly linked to any immigration orders issued by Trump upon taking office Monday, but rather stemmed from a 2017 bilateral agreement.

Brazil’s Minister of Human Rights, Macae Evaristo, told journalists that “children with autism ... who went through very serious experiences” were also on the flight.

Footage on Brazilian television showed some passengers descending from the civilian aircraft, with their hands handcuffed and their ankles shackled.

“Upon learning of the situation, President Lula ordered that a Brazilian Air Force (FAB) aircraft be mobilised to transport the Brazilians to their final destination, in order to ensure that they could complete their journey with dignity and safety,” the justice ministry said.

https://www.france24.com/en/americas/20250126-brazil-outraged-after-us-deportees-arrive-handcuffed-colombia-to-refuse-us-deportation-flights

Pretty sure their trek into the US was more harrowing

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Colombia's issue is that these flights are being done inhumanely and they don't know who's on these planes.

Brazil is "outraged" with how their deportation flights were handled. Remember, these aren't deadly criminals.

Edgar Da Silva Moura, a 31-year-old computer technician, was on the flight, after seven months in detention in the United States.

“On the plane they didn’t give us water, we were tied hands and feet, they wouldn’t even let us go to the bathroom,” he told AFP.

“It was very hot, some people fainted.”

Luis Antonio Rodrigues Santos, a 21-year-old freelancer, recounted the “nightmare” of people with “respiratory problems” during “four hours without air conditioning” due to technical issues on the plane.

“Things have already changed (with Trump), immigrants are treated as criminals,” he said.

The flight was originally destined for the southeastern city of Belo Horizonte, but encountered a technical issue forcing it to land in Manaus.

A government source told AFP the deportation flight was not directly linked to any immigration orders issued by Trump upon taking office Monday, but rather stemmed from a 2017 bilateral agreement.

Brazil’s Minister of Human Rights, Macae Evaristo, told journalists that “children with autism ... who went through very serious experiences” were also on the flight.

Footage on Brazilian television showed some passengers descending from the civilian aircraft, with their hands handcuffed and their ankles shackled.

“Upon learning of the situation, President Lula ordered that a Brazilian Air Force (FAB) aircraft be mobilised to transport the Brazilians to their final destination, in order to ensure that they could complete their journey with dignity and safety,” the justice ministry said.

https://www.france24.com/en/americas/20250126-brazil-outraged-after-us-deportees-arrive-handcuffed-colombia-to-refuse-us-deportation-flights

Brazil has informed Rubio that should this happen again the flight crew will be arrested and detained for violating the civil rights of Brazilian citizens. Lula is seriously pissed.

And really he won't care about threats of tariffs. He'll just sell soy, oil, steel, coffee, sugar, etc. to China. He already proved he will stand up to US bullying when he opened the commodities markets to transactions based on yuan and not just dollars and reais. Pissed Biden off with that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Colombia's issue is that these flights are being done inhumanely and they don't know who's on these planes.

Brazil is "outraged" with how their deportation flights were handled. Remember, these aren't deadly criminals.

Edgar Da Silva Moura, a 31-year-old computer technician, was on the flight, after seven months in detention in the United States.

“On the plane they didn’t give us water, we were tied hands and feet, they wouldn’t even let us go to the bathroom,” he told AFP.

“It was very hot, some people fainted.”

Luis Antonio Rodrigues Santos, a 21-year-old freelancer, recounted the “nightmare” of people with “respiratory problems” during “four hours without air conditioning” due to technical issues on the plane.

“Things have already changed (with Trump), immigrants are treated as criminals,” he said.

The flight was originally destined for the southeastern city of Belo Horizonte, but encountered a technical issue forcing it to land in Manaus.

A government source told AFP the deportation flight was not directly linked to any immigration orders issued by Trump upon taking office Monday, but rather stemmed from a 2017 bilateral agreement.

Brazil’s Minister of Human Rights, Macae Evaristo, told journalists that “children with autism ... who went through very serious experiences” were also on the flight.

Footage on Brazilian television showed some passengers descending from the civilian aircraft, with their hands handcuffed and their ankles shackled.

“Upon learning of the situation, President Lula ordered that a Brazilian Air Force (FAB) aircraft be mobilised to transport the Brazilians to their final destination, in order to ensure that they could complete their journey with dignity and safety,” the justice ministry said.

https://www.france24.com/en/americas/20250126-brazil-outraged-after-us-deportees-arrive-handcuffed-colombia-to-refuse-us-deportation-flights

Pretty sure their trek into the US was more harrowing

Brazilians? Well yes, if they flew Avianca. Brazilians don't walk into the US. They fly. And stay.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/colombias-petro-will-not-allow-us-planes-return-migrants-2025-01-26/

This is an interesting development. Colombia said they wouldn’t take back their own citizens so Trump is enacting tariffs and other measures.

Personally, I think this is a great move. It is the responsibility of the host nation to repatriate their citizens. I do not understand why Colombia won’t welcome their own people back.

They don’t have any issues taking their migrants back. They are demanding they are returned on civilian flights like humans.

To me, that’s a fair ask.

Will their govt pay for it?

Actually, the civilian flights are tiny fraction of the cost of using military planes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Colombia's issue is that these flights are being done inhumanely and they don't know who's on these planes.

Brazil is "outraged" with how their deportation flights were handled. Remember, these aren't deadly criminals.

Edgar Da Silva Moura, a 31-year-old computer technician, was on the flight, after seven months in detention in the United States.

“On the plane they didn’t give us water, we were tied hands and feet, they wouldn’t even let us go to the bathroom,” he told AFP.

“It was very hot, some people fainted.”

Luis Antonio Rodrigues Santos, a 21-year-old freelancer, recounted the “nightmare” of people with “respiratory problems” during “four hours without air conditioning” due to technical issues on the plane.

“Things have already changed (with Trump), immigrants are treated as criminals,” he said.

The flight was originally destined for the southeastern city of Belo Horizonte, but encountered a technical issue forcing it to land in Manaus.

A government source told AFP the deportation flight was not directly linked to any immigration orders issued by Trump upon taking office Monday, but rather stemmed from a 2017 bilateral agreement.

Brazil’s Minister of Human Rights, Macae Evaristo, told journalists that “children with autism ... who went through very serious experiences” were also on the flight.

Footage on Brazilian television showed some passengers descending from the civilian aircraft, with their hands handcuffed and their ankles shackled.

“Upon learning of the situation, President Lula ordered that a Brazilian Air Force (FAB) aircraft be mobilised to transport the Brazilians to their final destination, in order to ensure that they could complete their journey with dignity and safety,” the justice ministry said.

https://www.france24.com/en/americas/20250126-brazil-outraged-after-us-deportees-arrive-handcuffed-colombia-to-refuse-us-deportation-flights

FAFO.

Maybe don’t illegally stay in a country.

They are migrants who waved their right to continue through the overburdened US immigration system and go home instead. The "self-deporters"
Including children. They shouldn't be shackled, denied food and water and the bathroom for hours-long plane flights.

That IS inhumane and we're the f'in United States of America, and we're the good guys. Stop letting Trump try to turn our country into a mirror image of his bullying, sociopathic self.

Thank you. We should have some level of humanity.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Colombia's issue is that these flights are being done inhumanely and they don't know who's on these planes.

Brazil is "outraged" with how their deportation flights were handled. Remember, these aren't deadly criminals.

Edgar Da Silva Moura, a 31-year-old computer technician, was on the flight, after seven months in detention in the United States.

“On the plane they didn’t give us water, we were tied hands and feet, they wouldn’t even let us go to the bathroom,” he told AFP.

“It was very hot, some people fainted.”

Luis Antonio Rodrigues Santos, a 21-year-old freelancer, recounted the “nightmare” of people with “respiratory problems” during “four hours without air conditioning” due to technical issues on the plane.

“Things have already changed (with Trump), immigrants are treated as criminals,” he said.

The flight was originally destined for the southeastern city of Belo Horizonte, but encountered a technical issue forcing it to land in Manaus.

A government source told AFP the deportation flight was not directly linked to any immigration orders issued by Trump upon taking office Monday, but rather stemmed from a 2017 bilateral agreement.

Brazil’s Minister of Human Rights, Macae Evaristo, told journalists that “children with autism ... who went through very serious experiences” were also on the flight.

Footage on Brazilian television showed some passengers descending from the civilian aircraft, with their hands handcuffed and their ankles shackled.

“Upon learning of the situation, President Lula ordered that a Brazilian Air Force (FAB) aircraft be mobilised to transport the Brazilians to their final destination, in order to ensure that they could complete their journey with dignity and safety,” the justice ministry said.

https://www.france24.com/en/americas/20250126-brazil-outraged-after-us-deportees-arrive-handcuffed-colombia-to-refuse-us-deportation-flights

Pretty sure their trek into the US was more harrowing

Brazilians? Well yes, if they flew Avianca. Brazilians don't walk into the US. They fly. And stay.

Then they should buy their own plane tickets and fly back?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Colombia's issue is that these flights are being done inhumanely and they don't know who's on these planes.

Brazil is "outraged" with how their deportation flights were handled. Remember, these aren't deadly criminals.

Edgar Da Silva Moura, a 31-year-old computer technician, was on the flight, after seven months in detention in the United States.

“On the plane they didn’t give us water, we were tied hands and feet, they wouldn’t even let us go to the bathroom,” he told AFP.

“It was very hot, some people fainted.”

Luis Antonio Rodrigues Santos, a 21-year-old freelancer, recounted the “nightmare” of people with “respiratory problems” during “four hours without air conditioning” due to technical issues on the plane.

“Things have already changed (with Trump), immigrants are treated as criminals,” he said.

The flight was originally destined for the southeastern city of Belo Horizonte, but encountered a technical issue forcing it to land in Manaus.

A government source told AFP the deportation flight was not directly linked to any immigration orders issued by Trump upon taking office Monday, but rather stemmed from a 2017 bilateral agreement.

Brazil’s Minister of Human Rights, Macae Evaristo, told journalists that “children with autism ... who went through very serious experiences” were also on the flight.

Footage on Brazilian television showed some passengers descending from the civilian aircraft, with their hands handcuffed and their ankles shackled.

“Upon learning of the situation, President Lula ordered that a Brazilian Air Force (FAB) aircraft be mobilised to transport the Brazilians to their final destination, in order to ensure that they could complete their journey with dignity and safety,” the justice ministry said.

https://www.france24.com/en/americas/20250126-brazil-outraged-after-us-deportees-arrive-handcuffed-colombia-to-refuse-us-deportation-flights

Brazil has informed Rubio that should this happen again the flight crew will be arrested and detained for violating the civil rights of Brazilian citizens. Lula is seriously pissed.

And really he won't care about threats of tariffs. He'll just sell soy, oil, steel, coffee, sugar, etc. to China. He already proved he will stand up to US bullying when he opened the commodities markets to transactions based on yuan and not just dollars and reais. Pissed Biden off with that.

Seriously. Those of us who are stuck here under Trump's leadership have to live in denial about how bad it's getting, but other countries' leaders have no such need.