Alternatives to Prime?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:whats wrong with Prime?

Probably triggered by the sight of bezos bending the knee at the inauguration yesterday. He doesn’t have much to do with Amazon though. Most of the big tech bosses were there yesterday sniveling anyway. There’s no escaping it.

Triggered is right

Why do you feel the need to bully and belittle people who are doing something different than you?

DP here. Because it's so stupid to have this attitude of "punishing" a business because you don't like a CEO or what have you. First of all, it's a business. Second of all, if I showed you what all the big businesses do I will bet you a big bag of money that 98% of them have done or are doing something just as hypocritical, unsavory, borderline ethical, etc. as Bezos et al. They may not be at Trump's Inauguration and they may not be high profile with actions attracting much publicity, but running a big business is just not sunshine and roses.

Now, you can say - but I see Bezos and I want to teach him a lesson! But that's so immature and foolish. You don't teach him a lesson. If 50% of Prime customers left, he would still be doing remarkably well. He's built his business. Between AWS, how many customers he already has, his other investments/current business built up, you can't touch him. It's just such a stupid thing to do and it makes people who haven't thought through this kind of thing just end up hurting themselves. Prime is a service. As a mom, let me tell you, it's a lifesaver. As a consumer, the options you get on prime when you don't have to worry about ship costs on 99% of what I want is truly awesome. I hate Bezos too. But I don't hate him enough to hate myself and be so impractical as to believe that by denying myself, I'm actually hurting him at all. You can find someone much more of value to be noble for.

It's like climate change. It's like people who won't use A/C or whatever. OK - you won't make a dent in anything except to sweat your ass off. It's your choice but to promote this idea of nobility that you're somehow sacrificing to save all of us on earth is ridiculous. In the end, you hurt yourself. I say, use your A/C, drive, fly, eat meat, don't worry about how you're affecting climate change via your habits. Instead - DONATE to people who are researching solutions to how we're going to live when it'll be too hard to achieve a stable climate. OR, help think of solutions for when that time comes when none of us will be doing well. Look into where you can function when climate change hits your home - start saving up or something for a second home. Do something meaningful. But to just say - oh - what a horrible man Bezos is - I'm going to boycott Prime because I think he's wrong! That's just such a dumb reaction. You would need to boycott 1000 other companies or you are a total hypocrite because he's not the only one bowing down to Trump, guaranteed. Now, if you truly don't find yourself needing Prime as a business, that's legit. But be practical and honest about it. Prime is not just books for sure, there is a reason why Bezos is a billionaire, don't kid yourself on how good a business Amazon really is.

It all matters. This is how you’re choosing to change things, and that’s fine—great, even! But that doesn’t invalidate other methods of trying to make change.

You’ve created a strawman—“you think you’re teaching Bezos a lesson, but you’re not—you’re just punishing yourself!”—but if you actually listen to the people on this thread, they’re saying something else: they want to reduce support of businesses they believe are doing harm in the world. And for many, they don’t feel like leaving Amazon costs them much since the shopping experience is so janky. Many of us on here are moms, and leaving Amazon has not changed our qualify of life. It’s indispensable for you, and that’s fine. No one here is telling you to change your habits. But you seem very invested in convincing other people that their decision to stop using Amazon is wrong and bad. Why is that?

[Anonymous]

I like Prime.

[Anonymous]

Prime has gone so far downhill in reliability and customer service. It isn't worth the 160$/year anymore. I have been trying Target as an alternative and just ordering directly from the supplier when i can.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:whats wrong with Prime?

Probably triggered by the sight of bezos bending the knee at the inauguration yesterday. He doesn’t have much to do with Amazon though. Most of the big tech bosses were there yesterday sniveling anyway. There’s no escaping it.

Triggered is right

Why do you feel the need to bully and belittle people who are doing something different than you?

DP here. Because it's so stupid to have this attitude of "punishing" a business because you don't like a CEO or what have you. First of all, it's a business. Second of all, if I showed you what all the big businesses do I will bet you a big bag of money that 98% of them have done or are doing something just as hypocritical, unsavory, borderline ethical, etc. as Bezos et al. They may not be at Trump's Inauguration and they may not be high profile with actions attracting much publicity, but running a big business is just not sunshine and roses.

Now, you can say - but I see Bezos and I want to teach him a lesson! But that's so immature and foolish. You don't teach him a lesson. If 50% of Prime customers left, he would still be doing remarkably well. He's built his business. Between AWS, how many customers he already has, his other investments/current business built up, you can't touch him. It's just such a stupid thing to do and it makes people who haven't thought through this kind of thing just end up hurting themselves. Prime is a service. As a mom, let me tell you, it's a lifesaver. As a consumer, the options you get on prime when you don't have to worry about ship costs on 99% of what I want is truly awesome. I hate Bezos too. But I don't hate him enough to hate myself and be so impractical as to believe that by denying myself, I'm actually hurting him at all. You can find someone much more of value to be noble for.

It's like climate change. It's like people who won't use A/C or whatever. OK - you won't make a dent in anything except to sweat your ass off. It's your choice but to promote this idea of nobility that you're somehow sacrificing to save all of us on earth is ridiculous. In the end, you hurt yourself. I say, use your A/C, drive, fly, eat meat, don't worry about how you're affecting climate change via your habits. Instead - DONATE to people who are researching solutions to how we're going to live when it'll be too hard to achieve a stable climate. OR, help think of solutions for when that time comes when none of us will be doing well. Look into where you can function when climate change hits your home - start saving up or something for a second home. Do something meaningful. But to just say - oh - what a horrible man Bezos is - I'm going to boycott Prime because I think he's wrong! That's just such a dumb reaction. You would need to boycott 1000 other companies or you are a total hypocrite because he's not the only one bowing down to Trump, guaranteed. Now, if you truly don't find yourself needing Prime as a business, that's legit. But be practical and honest about it. Prime is not just books for sure, there is a reason why Bezos is a billionaire, don't kid yourself on how good a business Amazon really is.

It all matters. This is how you’re choosing to change things, and that’s fine—great, even! But that doesn’t invalidate other methods of trying to make change.

You’ve created a strawman—“you think you’re teaching Bezos a lesson, but you’re not—you’re just punishing yourself!”—but if you actually listen to the people on this thread, they’re saying something else: they want to reduce support of businesses they believe are doing harm in the world. And for many, they don’t feel like leaving Amazon costs them much since the shopping experience is so janky. Many of us on here are moms, and leaving Amazon has not changed our qualify of life. It’s indispensable for you, and that’s fine. No one here is telling you to change your habits. But you seem very invested in convincing other people that their decision to stop using Amazon is wrong and bad. Why is that?

Agreed!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:A lot of you assume Costco, Walmart, Target etc aren't also bending the knee.....

I'm more amused than anything else. I had to watch corporate America bend the knee to BLM and Floyd and Biden four years ago and now they're bending the knee to the opposite. At this point I really don't care and will continue using Prime because it's fantastic and love the discounts at Whole Foods and otherwise works great for me and I don't make up grievances because no one else is better.

WTF? Talk about false equivalencies.

The moral hypocrisy is off the charts on this thread. It's nothing more than intolerant people screaming bigotry when things don't go their way while sneering and judging people who protested when companies became political a few years ago.

Good luck with your boycott of the most convenient and successful company in America and pat yourself on the back for doing the, ahem, righteous, thing. After all, we gotta believe we're on the right side of history, amirite? LOL at that it's the "right" side, ha! Maybe there's a hidden irony in there.

No, really - it's a false equivalency. Trump is creating an actual oligarchy of tech company executives. They give him money and feed his ego, and he puts them in front of his cabinet nominees on the dais. He literally put them before the government. No one in the Biden Administration ever did that. So people are trying to get away from the influence of those oligarchs, and why shouldn't they?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:whats wrong with Prime?

Probably triggered by the sight of bezos bending the knee at the inauguration yesterday. He doesn’t have much to do with Amazon though. Most of the big tech bosses were there yesterday sniveling anyway. There’s no escaping it.

Triggered is right

Why do you feel the need to bully and belittle people who are doing something different than you?

DP here. Because it's so stupid to have this attitude of "punishing" a business because you don't like a CEO or what have you. First of all, it's a business. Second of all, if I showed you what all the big businesses do I will bet you a big bag of money that 98% of them have done or are doing something just as hypocritical, unsavory, borderline ethical, etc. as Bezos et al. They may not be at Trump's Inauguration and they may not be high profile with actions attracting much publicity, but running a big business is just not sunshine and roses.

Now, you can say - but I see Bezos and I want to teach him a lesson! But that's so immature and foolish. You don't teach him a lesson. If 50% of Prime customers left, he would still be doing remarkably well. He's built his business. Between AWS, how many customers he already has, his other investments/current business built up, you can't touch him. It's just such a stupid thing to do and it makes people who haven't thought through this kind of thing just end up hurting themselves. Prime is a service. As a mom, let me tell you, it's a lifesaver. As a consumer, the options you get on prime when you don't have to worry about ship costs on 99% of what I want is truly awesome. I hate Bezos too. But I don't hate him enough to hate myself and be so impractical as to believe that by denying myself, I'm actually hurting him at all. You can find someone much more of value to be noble for.

It's like climate change. It's like people who won't use A/C or whatever. OK - you won't make a dent in anything except to sweat your ass off. It's your choice but to promote this idea of nobility that you're somehow sacrificing to save all of us on earth is ridiculous. In the end, you hurt yourself. I say, use your A/C, drive, fly, eat meat, don't worry about how you're affecting climate change via your habits. Instead - DONATE to people who are researching solutions to how we're going to live when it'll be too hard to achieve a stable climate. OR, help think of solutions for when that time comes when none of us will be doing well. Look into where you can function when climate change hits your home - start saving up or something for a second home. Do something meaningful. But to just say - oh - what a horrible man Bezos is - I'm going to boycott Prime because I think he's wrong! That's just such a dumb reaction. You would need to boycott 1000 other companies or you are a total hypocrite because he's not the only one bowing down to Trump, guaranteed. Now, if you truly don't find yourself needing Prime as a business, that's legit. But be practical and honest about it. Prime is not just books for sure, there is a reason why Bezos is a billionaire, don't kid yourself on how good a business Amazon really is.

It all matters. This is how you’re choosing to change things, and that’s fine—great, even! But that doesn’t invalidate other methods of trying to make change.

You’ve created a strawman—“you think you’re teaching Bezos a lesson, but you’re not—you’re just punishing yourself!”—but if you actually listen to the people on this thread, they’re saying something else: they want to reduce support of businesses they believe are doing harm in the world. And for many, they don’t feel like leaving Amazon costs them much since the shopping experience is so janky. Many of us on here are moms, and leaving Amazon has not changed our qualify of life. It’s indispensable for you, and that’s fine. No one here is telling you to change your habits. But you seem very invested in convincing other people that their decision to stop using Amazon is wrong and bad. Why is that?

Agreed!

Bezos owns stock. He does not take an income. He is not running Amazon and not hands on. However, many many people are employed by amazon and you are hurting them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:whats wrong with Prime?

Probably triggered by the sight of bezos bending the knee at the inauguration yesterday. He doesn’t have much to do with Amazon though. Most of the big tech bosses were there yesterday sniveling anyway. There’s no escaping it.

Triggered is right

Why do you feel the need to bully and belittle people who are doing something different than you?

DP here. Because it's so stupid to have this attitude of "punishing" a business because you don't like a CEO or what have you. First of all, it's a business. Second of all, if I showed you what all the big businesses do I will bet you a big bag of money that 98% of them have done or are doing something just as hypocritical, unsavory, borderline ethical, etc. as Bezos et al. They may not be at Trump's Inauguration and they may not be high profile with actions attracting much publicity, but running a big business is just not sunshine and roses.

Now, you can say - but I see Bezos and I want to teach him a lesson! But that's so immature and foolish. You don't teach him a lesson. If 50% of Prime customers left, he would still be doing remarkably well. He's built his business. Between AWS, how many customers he already has, his other investments/current business built up, you can't touch him. It's just such a stupid thing to do and it makes people who haven't thought through this kind of thing just end up hurting themselves. Prime is a service. As a mom, let me tell you, it's a lifesaver. As a consumer, the options you get on prime when you don't have to worry about ship costs on 99% of what I want is truly awesome. I hate Bezos too. But I don't hate him enough to hate myself and be so impractical as to believe that by denying myself, I'm actually hurting him at all. You can find someone much more of value to be noble for.

It's like climate change. It's like people who won't use A/C or whatever. OK - you won't make a dent in anything except to sweat your ass off. It's your choice but to promote this idea of nobility that you're somehow sacrificing to save all of us on earth is ridiculous. In the end, you hurt yourself. I say, use your A/C, drive, fly, eat meat, don't worry about how you're affecting climate change via your habits. Instead - DONATE to people who are researching solutions to how we're going to live when it'll be too hard to achieve a stable climate. OR, help think of solutions for when that time comes when none of us will be doing well. Look into where you can function when climate change hits your home - start saving up or something for a second home. Do something meaningful. But to just say - oh - what a horrible man Bezos is - I'm going to boycott Prime because I think he's wrong! That's just such a dumb reaction. You would need to boycott 1000 other companies or you are a total hypocrite because he's not the only one bowing down to Trump, guaranteed. Now, if you truly don't find yourself needing Prime as a business, that's legit. But be practical and honest about it. Prime is not just books for sure, there is a reason why Bezos is a billionaire, don't kid yourself on how good a business Amazon really is.

It all matters. This is how you’re choosing to change things, and that’s fine—great, even! But that doesn’t invalidate other methods of trying to make change.

You’ve created a strawman—“you think you’re teaching Bezos a lesson, but you’re not—you’re just punishing yourself!”—but if you actually listen to the people on this thread, they’re saying something else: they want to reduce support of businesses they believe are doing harm in the world. And for many, they don’t feel like leaving Amazon costs them much since the shopping experience is so janky. Many of us on here are moms, and leaving Amazon has not changed our qualify of life. It’s indispensable for you, and that’s fine. No one here is telling you to change your habits. But you seem very invested in convincing other people that their decision to stop using Amazon is wrong and bad. Why is that?

Agreed!

Bezos owns stock. He does not take an income. He is not running Amazon and not hands on. However, many many people are employed by amazon and you are hurting them.

Cry me a river. You sound like you’re doing PR for Amazon. He benefits from the stock. Amazon exploits their employees- don’t act like they’re some savior.

[Anonymous]

We are all run, controlled, influenced and monitored by lousy people. That’s just how it is. Bezos is one of many. It would be difficult to find any large business that isn’t run by aholes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We are all run, controlled, influenced and monitored by lousy people. That’s just how it is. Bezos is one of many. It would be difficult to find any large business that isn’t run by aholes.

Sure. But how many of them buy newspapers and then refuse to let the editorial board of that paper do their job without interference? Hmm???

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We are all run, controlled, influenced and monitored by lousy people. That’s just how it is. Bezos is one of many. It would be difficult to find any large business that isn’t run by aholes.

Sure. But how many of them buy newspapers and then refuse to let the editorial board of that paper do their job without interference? Hmm???

There’s the LA Times guy I guess. But if you really want to be consistent you need to have nothing to do with Apple, Microsoft, Google, Meta, Home Depot and a ton of others. That’s not easy to do without being dead.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:whats wrong with Prime?

Probably triggered by the sight of bezos bending the knee at the inauguration yesterday. He doesn’t have much to do with Amazon though. Most of the big tech bosses were there yesterday sniveling anyway. There’s no escaping it.

Triggered is right

Why do you feel the need to bully and belittle people who are doing something different than you?

DP here. Because it's so stupid to have this attitude of "punishing" a business because you don't like a CEO or what have you. First of all, it's a business. Second of all, if I showed you what all the big businesses do I will bet you a big bag of money that 98% of them have done or are doing something just as hypocritical, unsavory, borderline ethical, etc. as Bezos et al. They may not be at Trump's Inauguration and they may not be high profile with actions attracting much publicity, but running a big business is just not sunshine and roses.

Now, you can say - but I see Bezos and I want to teach him a lesson! But that's so immature and foolish. You don't teach him a lesson. If 50% of Prime customers left, he would still be doing remarkably well. He's built his business. Between AWS, how many customers he already has, his other investments/current business built up, you can't touch him. It's just such a stupid thing to do and it makes people who haven't thought through this kind of thing just end up hurting themselves. Prime is a service. As a mom, let me tell you, it's a lifesaver. As a consumer, the options you get on prime when you don't have to worry about ship costs on 99% of what I want is truly awesome. I hate Bezos too. But I don't hate him enough to hate myself and be so impractical as to believe that by denying myself, I'm actually hurting him at all. You can find someone much more of value to be noble for.

It's like climate change. It's like people who won't use A/C or whatever. OK - you won't make a dent in anything except to sweat your ass off. It's your choice but to promote this idea of nobility that you're somehow sacrificing to save all of us on earth is ridiculous. In the end, you hurt yourself. I say, use your A/C, drive, fly, eat meat, don't worry about how you're affecting climate change via your habits. Instead - DONATE to people who are researching solutions to how we're going to live when it'll be too hard to achieve a stable climate. OR, help think of solutions for when that time comes when none of us will be doing well. Look into where you can function when climate change hits your home - start saving up or something for a second home. Do something meaningful. But to just say - oh - what a horrible man Bezos is - I'm going to boycott Prime because I think he's wrong! That's just such a dumb reaction. You would need to boycott 1000 other companies or you are a total hypocrite because he's not the only one bowing down to Trump, guaranteed. Now, if you truly don't find yourself needing Prime as a business, that's legit. But be practical and honest about it. Prime is not just books for sure, there is a reason why Bezos is a billionaire, don't kid yourself on how good a business Amazon really is.

It all matters. This is how you’re choosing to change things, and that’s fine—great, even! But that doesn’t invalidate other methods of trying to make change.

You’ve created a strawman—“you think you’re teaching Bezos a lesson, but you’re not—you’re just punishing yourself!”—but if you actually listen to the people on this thread, they’re saying something else: they want to reduce support of businesses they believe are doing harm in the world. And for many, they don’t feel like leaving Amazon costs them much since the shopping experience is so janky. Many of us on here are moms, and leaving Amazon has not changed our qualify of life. It’s indispensable for you, and that’s fine. No one here is telling you to change your habits. But you seem very invested in convincing other people that their decision to stop using Amazon is wrong and bad. Why is that?

Agreed!

Bezos owns stock. He does not take an income. He is not running Amazon and not hands on. However, many many people are employed by amazon and you are hurting them.

Cry me a river. You sound like you’re doing PR for Amazon. He benefits from the stock. Amazon exploits their employees- don’t act like they’re some savior.

Amazon is a huge company and it depends on the job, team and supervisor. Just like any job. We benefit from stock too and Amazon feeds our family. You clearly have no clue how it works.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We are all run, controlled, influenced and monitored by lousy people. That’s just how it is. Bezos is one of many. It would be difficult to find any large business that isn’t run by aholes.

Bezos does not run Amazon.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We are all run, controlled, influenced and monitored by lousy people. That’s just how it is. Bezos is one of many. It would be difficult to find any large business that isn’t run by aholes.

Sure. But how many of them buy newspapers and then refuse to let the editorial board of that paper do their job without interference? Hmm???

There’s the LA Times guy I guess. But if you really want to be consistent you need to have nothing to do with Apple, Microsoft, Google, Meta, Home Depot and a ton of others. That’s not easy to do without being dead.

This idea that you have to be “consistent” or nothing matters is stupid. Do what you can, where you can.

The wealth gap is bigger than during the French Revolution, but you can’t be bothered to give up free, overnight shipping on your nail clippers to stop feeding the oligarchs. Pathetic.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We are all run, controlled, influenced and monitored by lousy people. That’s just how it is. Bezos is one of many. It would be difficult to find any large business that isn’t run by aholes.

Sure. But how many of them buy newspapers and then refuse to let the editorial board of that paper do their job without interference? Hmm???

There’s the LA Times guy I guess. But if you really want to be consistent you need to have nothing to do with Apple, Microsoft, Google, Meta, Home Depot and a ton of others. That’s not easy to do without being dead.

Apple, Microsoft, and Google didn’t pay Melania $40 million for her documentary. Amazon did.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We are all run, controlled, influenced and monitored by lousy people. That’s just how it is. Bezos is one of many. It would be difficult to find any large business that isn’t run by aholes.

Sure. But how many of them buy newspapers and then refuse to let the editorial board of that paper do their job without interference? Hmm???

There’s the LA Times guy I guess. But if you really want to be consistent you need to have nothing to do with Apple, Microsoft, Google, Meta, Home Depot and a ton of others. That’s not easy to do without being dead.

Apple, Microsoft, and Google didn’t pay Melania $40 million for her documentary. Amazon did.

Paying melanoma for her documentary is one of the less problematic things going on. Who cares about that? It’s pretty minor in the whole scheme of things. Only bozos would watch it anyway.