Alternatives to Prime?

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Anonymous wrote:We are all run, controlled, influenced and monitored by lousy people. That’s just how it is. Bezos is one of many. It would be difficult to find any large business that isn’t run by aholes.

Sure. But how many of them buy newspapers and then refuse to let the editorial board of that paper do their job without interference? Hmm???

There’s the LA Times guy I guess. But if you really want to be consistent you need to have nothing to do with Apple, Microsoft, Google, Meta, Home Depot and a ton of others. That’s not easy to do without being dead.

Apple, Microsoft, and Google didn’t pay Melania $40 million for her documentary. Amazon did.

Paying melanoma for her documentary is one of the less problematic things going on. Who cares about that? It’s pretty minor in the whole scheme of things. Only bozos would watch it anyway.

It’s ALL problematic. Trump threatens and bribes and that’s what this is. Amazon kissed the dictators behind at everyone’s expense. F them.

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Anonymous wrote:We are all run, controlled, influenced and monitored by lousy people. That’s just how it is. Bezos is one of many. It would be difficult to find any large business that isn’t run by aholes.

Sure. But how many of them buy newspapers and then refuse to let the editorial board of that paper do their job without interference? Hmm???

There’s the LA Times guy I guess. But if you really want to be consistent you need to have nothing to do with Apple, Microsoft, Google, Meta, Home Depot and a ton of others. That’s not easy to do without being dead.

Apple, Microsoft, and Google didn’t pay Melania $40 million for her documentary. Amazon did.

Paying melanoma for her documentary is one of the less problematic things going on. Who cares about that? It’s pretty minor in the whole scheme of things. Only bozos would watch it anyway.

Paying Melania $40 mn is literally pay to play to her husband. The audience of people who want to watch a documents to about her is in the single digits.

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Anonymous wrote:whats wrong with Prime?

Probably triggered by the sight of bezos bending the knee at the inauguration yesterday. He doesn’t have much to do with Amazon though. Most of the big tech bosses were there yesterday sniveling anyway. There’s no escaping it.

Triggered is right

Why do you feel the need to bully and belittle people who are doing something different than you?

DP here. Because it's so stupid to have this attitude of "punishing" a business because you don't like a CEO or what have you. First of all, it's a business. Second of all, if I showed you what all the big businesses do I will bet you a big bag of money that 98% of them have done or are doing something just as hypocritical, unsavory, borderline ethical, etc. as Bezos et al. They may not be at Trump's Inauguration and they may not be high profile with actions attracting much publicity, but running a big business is just not sunshine and roses.

Now, you can say - but I see Bezos and I want to teach him a lesson! But that's so immature and foolish. You don't teach him a lesson. If 50% of Prime customers left, he would still be doing remarkably well. He's built his business. Between AWS, how many customers he already has, his other investments/current business built up, you can't touch him. It's just such a stupid thing to do and it makes people who haven't thought through this kind of thing just end up hurting themselves. Prime is a service. As a mom, let me tell you, it's a lifesaver. As a consumer, the options you get on prime when you don't have to worry about ship costs on 99% of what I want is truly awesome. I hate Bezos too. But I don't hate him enough to hate myself and be so impractical as to believe that by denying myself, I'm actually hurting him at all. You can find someone much more of value to be noble for.

It's like climate change. It's like people who won't use A/C or whatever. OK - you won't make a dent in anything except to sweat your ass off. It's your choice but to promote this idea of nobility that you're somehow sacrificing to save all of us on earth is ridiculous. In the end, you hurt yourself. I say, use your A/C, drive, fly, eat meat, don't worry about how you're affecting climate change via your habits. Instead - DONATE to people who are researching solutions to how we're going to live when it'll be too hard to achieve a stable climate. OR, help think of solutions for when that time comes when none of us will be doing well. Look into where you can function when climate change hits your home - start saving up or something for a second home. Do something meaningful. But to just say - oh - what a horrible man Bezos is - I'm going to boycott Prime because I think he's wrong! That's just such a dumb reaction. You would need to boycott 1000 other companies or you are a total hypocrite because he's not the only one bowing down to Trump, guaranteed. Now, if you truly don't find yourself needing Prime as a business, that's legit. But be practical and honest about it. Prime is not just books for sure, there is a reason why Bezos is a billionaire, don't kid yourself on how good a business Amazon really is.

It all matters. This is how you’re choosing to change things, and that’s fine—great, even! But that doesn’t invalidate other methods of trying to make change.

You’ve created a strawman—“you think you’re teaching Bezos a lesson, but you’re not—you’re just punishing yourself!”—but if you actually listen to the people on this thread, they’re saying something else: they want to reduce support of businesses they believe are doing harm in the world. And for many, they don’t feel like leaving Amazon costs them much since the shopping experience is so janky. Many of us on here are moms, and leaving Amazon has not changed our qualify of life. It’s indispensable for you, and that’s fine. No one here is telling you to change your habits. But you seem very invested in convincing other people that their decision to stop using Amazon is wrong and bad. Why is that?

Agreed!

Bezos owns stock. He does not take an income. He is not running Amazon and not hands on. However, many many people are employed by amazon and you are hurting them.

Cry me a river. You sound like you’re doing PR for Amazon. He benefits from the stock. Amazon exploits their employees- don’t act like they’re some savior.

Amazon is a huge company and it depends on the job, team and supervisor. Just like any job. We benefit from stock too and Amazon feeds our family. You clearly have no clue how it works.

What about all the families that were fed by businesses that Amazon drove out of business?

You also seem to be saying that the rest of us have an obligation to use a corporation that gives money to the GOP to support your family. What are you doing to support my family?

For those claiming that Bezos has nothing to do with Amazon, he owns around 920 million shares. That’s about $220 billion. The vast majority of his ~$250 billion net worth.

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Anonymous wrote:whats wrong with Prime?

Probably triggered by the sight of bezos bending the knee at the inauguration yesterday. He doesn’t have much to do with Amazon though. Most of the big tech bosses were there yesterday sniveling anyway. There’s no escaping it.

Triggered is right

Why do you feel the need to bully and belittle people who are doing something different than you?

DP here. Because it's so stupid to have this attitude of "punishing" a business because you don't like a CEO or what have you. First of all, it's a business. Second of all, if I showed you what all the big businesses do I will bet you a big bag of money that 98% of them have done or are doing something just as hypocritical, unsavory, borderline ethical, etc. as Bezos et al. They may not be at Trump's Inauguration and they may not be high profile with actions attracting much publicity, but running a big business is just not sunshine and roses.

Now, you can say - but I see Bezos and I want to teach him a lesson! But that's so immature and foolish. You don't teach him a lesson. If 50% of Prime customers left, he would still be doing remarkably well. He's built his business. Between AWS, how many customers he already has, his other investments/current business built up, you can't touch him. It's just such a stupid thing to do and it makes people who haven't thought through this kind of thing just end up hurting themselves. Prime is a service. As a mom, let me tell you, it's a lifesaver. As a consumer, the options you get on prime when you don't have to worry about ship costs on 99% of what I want is truly awesome. I hate Bezos too. But I don't hate him enough to hate myself and be so impractical as to believe that by denying myself, I'm actually hurting him at all. You can find someone much more of value to be noble for.

It's like climate change. It's like people who won't use A/C or whatever. OK - you won't make a dent in anything except to sweat your ass off. It's your choice but to promote this idea of nobility that you're somehow sacrificing to save all of us on earth is ridiculous. In the end, you hurt yourself. I say, use your A/C, drive, fly, eat meat, don't worry about how you're affecting climate change via your habits. Instead - DONATE to people who are researching solutions to how we're going to live when it'll be too hard to achieve a stable climate. OR, help think of solutions for when that time comes when none of us will be doing well. Look into where you can function when climate change hits your home - start saving up or something for a second home. Do something meaningful. But to just say - oh - what a horrible man Bezos is - I'm going to boycott Prime because I think he's wrong! That's just such a dumb reaction. You would need to boycott 1000 other companies or you are a total hypocrite because he's not the only one bowing down to Trump, guaranteed. Now, if you truly don't find yourself needing Prime as a business, that's legit. But be practical and honest about it. Prime is not just books for sure, there is a reason why Bezos is a billionaire, don't kid yourself on how good a business Amazon really is.

It all matters. This is how you’re choosing to change things, and that’s fine—great, even! But that doesn’t invalidate other methods of trying to make change.

You’ve created a strawman—“you think you’re teaching Bezos a lesson, but you’re not—you’re just punishing yourself!”—but if you actually listen to the people on this thread, they’re saying something else: they want to reduce support of businesses they believe are doing harm in the world. And for many, they don’t feel like leaving Amazon costs them much since the shopping experience is so janky. Many of us on here are moms, and leaving Amazon has not changed our qualify of life. It’s indispensable for you, and that’s fine. No one here is telling you to change your habits. But you seem very invested in convincing other people that their decision to stop using Amazon is wrong and bad. Why is that?

Agreed!

Bezos owns stock. He does not take an income. He is not running Amazon and not hands on. However, many many people are employed by amazon and you are hurting them.

Cry me a river. You sound like you’re doing PR for Amazon. He benefits from the stock. Amazon exploits their employees- don’t act like they’re some savior.

Amazon is a huge company and it depends on the job, team and supervisor. Just like any job. We benefit from stock too and Amazon feeds our family. You clearly have no clue how it works.

What about all the families that were fed by businesses that Amazon drove out of business?

You also seem to be saying that the rest of us have an obligation to use a corporation that gives money to the GOP to support your family. What are you doing to support my family?

For those claiming that Bezos has nothing to do with Amazon, he owns around 920 million shares. That’s about $220 billion. The vast majority of his ~$250 billion net worth.

NP. This is a fair point, but this thread is pretty funny because the solution to cutting out Amazon is apparently to rely on Walmart, Target and Costco. Which... IDK, none of those give me the warm and fuzzies either for this particular point, especially Walmart who was even ahead of Amazon in destroying small businesses and expects their employees to rely on foodstamps.

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Anonymous wrote:We are all run, controlled, influenced and monitored by lousy people. That’s just how it is. Bezos is one of many. It would be difficult to find any large business that isn’t run by aholes.

Sure. But how many of them buy newspapers and then refuse to let the editorial board of that paper do their job without interference? Hmm???

There’s the LA Times guy I guess. But if you really want to be consistent you need to have nothing to do with Apple, Microsoft, Google, Meta, Home Depot and a ton of others. That’s not easy to do without being dead.

Wait. Bill Gates killed an editorial by the newspaper he owns? Stop comparing apples and oranges! I’m consistently doing my best to boycott the sycophants who promise Trump good publicity and lots of money.

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Anonymous wrote:We are all run, controlled, influenced and monitored by lousy people. That’s just how it is. Bezos is one of many. It would be difficult to find any large business that isn’t run by aholes.

Sure. But how many of them buy newspapers and then refuse to let the editorial board of that paper do their job without interference? Hmm???

There’s the LA Times guy I guess. But if you really want to be consistent you need to have nothing to do with Apple, Microsoft, Google, Meta, Home Depot and a ton of others. That’s not easy to do without being dead.

Apple, Microsoft, and Google didn’t pay Melania $40 million for her documentary. Amazon did.

Paying melanoma for her documentary is one of the less problematic things going on. Who cares about that? It’s pretty minor in the whole scheme of things. Only bozos would watch it anyway.

It’s ALL problematic. Trump threatens and bribes and that’s what this is. Amazon kissed the dictators behind at everyone’s expense. F them.

Most of the billionaires did the same thing.

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Anonymous wrote:whats wrong with Prime?

Probably triggered by the sight of bezos bending the knee at the inauguration yesterday. He doesn’t have much to do with Amazon though. Most of the big tech bosses were there yesterday sniveling anyway. There’s no escaping it.

Triggered is right

Why do you feel the need to bully and belittle people who are doing something different than you?

DP here. Because it's so stupid to have this attitude of "punishing" a business because you don't like a CEO or what have you. First of all, it's a business. Second of all, if I showed you what all the big businesses do I will bet you a big bag of money that 98% of them have done or are doing something just as hypocritical, unsavory, borderline ethical, etc. as Bezos et al. They may not be at Trump's Inauguration and they may not be high profile with actions attracting much publicity, but running a big business is just not sunshine and roses.

Now, you can say - but I see Bezos and I want to teach him a lesson! But that's so immature and foolish. You don't teach him a lesson. If 50% of Prime customers left, he would still be doing remarkably well. He's built his business. Between AWS, how many customers he already has, his other investments/current business built up, you can't touch him. It's just such a stupid thing to do and it makes people who haven't thought through this kind of thing just end up hurting themselves. Prime is a service. As a mom, let me tell you, it's a lifesaver. As a consumer, the options you get on prime when you don't have to worry about ship costs on 99% of what I want is truly awesome. I hate Bezos too. But I don't hate him enough to hate myself and be so impractical as to believe that by denying myself, I'm actually hurting him at all. You can find someone much more of value to be noble for.

It's like climate change. It's like people who won't use A/C or whatever. OK - you won't make a dent in anything except to sweat your ass off. It's your choice but to promote this idea of nobility that you're somehow sacrificing to save all of us on earth is ridiculous. In the end, you hurt yourself. I say, use your A/C, drive, fly, eat meat, don't worry about how you're affecting climate change via your habits. Instead - DONATE to people who are researching solutions to how we're going to live when it'll be too hard to achieve a stable climate. OR, help think of solutions for when that time comes when none of us will be doing well. Look into where you can function when climate change hits your home - start saving up or something for a second home. Do something meaningful. But to just say - oh - what a horrible man Bezos is - I'm going to boycott Prime because I think he's wrong! That's just such a dumb reaction. You would need to boycott 1000 other companies or you are a total hypocrite because he's not the only one bowing down to Trump, guaranteed. Now, if you truly don't find yourself needing Prime as a business, that's legit. But be practical and honest about it. Prime is not just books for sure, there is a reason why Bezos is a billionaire, don't kid yourself on how good a business Amazon really is.

It all matters. This is how you’re choosing to change things, and that’s fine—great, even! But that doesn’t invalidate other methods of trying to make change.

You’ve created a strawman—“you think you’re teaching Bezos a lesson, but you’re not—you’re just punishing yourself!”—but if you actually listen to the people on this thread, they’re saying something else: they want to reduce support of businesses they believe are doing harm in the world. And for many, they don’t feel like leaving Amazon costs them much since the shopping experience is so janky. Many of us on here are moms, and leaving Amazon has not changed our qualify of life. It’s indispensable for you, and that’s fine. No one here is telling you to change your habits. But you seem very invested in convincing other people that their decision to stop using Amazon is wrong and bad. Why is that?

Agreed!

Bezos owns stock. He does not take an income. He is not running Amazon and not hands on. However, many many people are employed by amazon and you are hurting them.

Cry me a river. You sound like you’re doing PR for Amazon. He benefits from the stock. Amazon exploits their employees- don’t act like they’re some savior.

Amazon is a huge company and it depends on the job, team and supervisor. Just like any job. We benefit from stock too and Amazon feeds our family. You clearly have no clue how it works.

What about all the families that were fed by businesses that Amazon drove out of business?

You also seem to be saying that the rest of us have an obligation to use a corporation that gives money to the GOP to support your family. What are you doing to support my family?

For those claiming that Bezos has nothing to do with Amazon, he owns around 920 million shares. That’s about $220 billion. The vast majority of his ~$250 billion net worth.

You were welcome to shop at those places. I go for price.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:whats wrong with Prime?

Probably triggered by the sight of bezos bending the knee at the inauguration yesterday. He doesn’t have much to do with Amazon though. Most of the big tech bosses were there yesterday sniveling anyway. There’s no escaping it.

Triggered is right

Why do you feel the need to bully and belittle people who are doing something different than you?

DP here. Because it's so stupid to have this attitude of "punishing" a business because you don't like a CEO or what have you. First of all, it's a business. Second of all, if I showed you what all the big businesses do I will bet you a big bag of money that 98% of them have done or are doing something just as hypocritical, unsavory, borderline ethical, etc. as Bezos et al. They may not be at Trump's Inauguration and they may not be high profile with actions attracting much publicity, but running a big business is just not sunshine and roses.

Now, you can say - but I see Bezos and I want to teach him a lesson! But that's so immature and foolish. You don't teach him a lesson. If 50% of Prime customers left, he would still be doing remarkably well. He's built his business. Between AWS, how many customers he already has, his other investments/current business built up, you can't touch him. It's just such a stupid thing to do and it makes people who haven't thought through this kind of thing just end up hurting themselves. Prime is a service. As a mom, let me tell you, it's a lifesaver. As a consumer, the options you get on prime when you don't have to worry about ship costs on 99% of what I want is truly awesome. I hate Bezos too. But I don't hate him enough to hate myself and be so impractical as to believe that by denying myself, I'm actually hurting him at all. You can find someone much more of value to be noble for.

It's like climate change. It's like people who won't use A/C or whatever. OK - you won't make a dent in anything except to sweat your ass off. It's your choice but to promote this idea of nobility that you're somehow sacrificing to save all of us on earth is ridiculous. In the end, you hurt yourself. I say, use your A/C, drive, fly, eat meat, don't worry about how you're affecting climate change via your habits. Instead - DONATE to people who are researching solutions to how we're going to live when it'll be too hard to achieve a stable climate. OR, help think of solutions for when that time comes when none of us will be doing well. Look into where you can function when climate change hits your home - start saving up or something for a second home. Do something meaningful. But to just say - oh - what a horrible man Bezos is - I'm going to boycott Prime because I think he's wrong! That's just such a dumb reaction. You would need to boycott 1000 other companies or you are a total hypocrite because he's not the only one bowing down to Trump, guaranteed. Now, if you truly don't find yourself needing Prime as a business, that's legit. But be practical and honest about it. Prime is not just books for sure, there is a reason why Bezos is a billionaire, don't kid yourself on how good a business Amazon really is.

It all matters. This is how you’re choosing to change things, and that’s fine—great, even! But that doesn’t invalidate other methods of trying to make change.

You’ve created a strawman—“you think you’re teaching Bezos a lesson, but you’re not—you’re just punishing yourself!”—but if you actually listen to the people on this thread, they’re saying something else: they want to reduce support of businesses they believe are doing harm in the world. And for many, they don’t feel like leaving Amazon costs them much since the shopping experience is so janky. Many of us on here are moms, and leaving Amazon has not changed our qualify of life. It’s indispensable for you, and that’s fine. No one here is telling you to change your habits. But you seem very invested in convincing other people that their decision to stop using Amazon is wrong and bad. Why is that?

Agreed!

Bezos owns stock. He does not take an income. He is not running Amazon and not hands on. However, many many people are employed by amazon and you are hurting them.

Cry me a river. You sound like you’re doing PR for Amazon. He benefits from the stock. Amazon exploits their employees- don’t act like they’re some savior.

Amazon is a huge company and it depends on the job, team and supervisor. Just like any job. We benefit from stock too and Amazon feeds our family. You clearly have no clue how it works.

What about all the families that were fed by businesses that Amazon drove out of business?

You also seem to be saying that the rest of us have an obligation to use a corporation that gives money to the GOP to support your family. What are you doing to support my family?

For those claiming that Bezos has nothing to do with Amazon, he owns around 920 million shares. That’s about $220 billion. The vast majority of his ~$250 billion net worth.

He owns stock which is about 10%. He no longer runs it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Costco pays its employees well and hasn’t given Trump any money. Stop pretending it’s all the same. Raise you standards.

Costco is having issues. https://fortune.com/2025/01/23/costco-workers-threaten-to-strike/?fbclid=IwY2xjawIAEsBleHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHXi5XpU1CTFwyZyzFQ19g66-tHfumBQJBsq58Oo8D0fa3kuTlIXodRCQhg_aem_YQrUGmdkUcKrzRD3c2zc6g

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:whats wrong with Prime?

Probably triggered by the sight of bezos bending the knee at the inauguration yesterday. He doesn’t have much to do with Amazon though. Most of the big tech bosses were there yesterday sniveling anyway. There’s no escaping it.

Triggered is right

Why do you feel the need to bully and belittle people who are doing something different than you?

DP here. Because it's so stupid to have this attitude of "punishing" a business because you don't like a CEO or what have you. First of all, it's a business. Second of all, if I showed you what all the big businesses do I will bet you a big bag of money that 98% of them have done or are doing something just as hypocritical, unsavory, borderline ethical, etc. as Bezos et al. They may not be at Trump's Inauguration and they may not be high profile with actions attracting much publicity, but running a big business is just not sunshine and roses.

Now, you can say - but I see Bezos and I want to teach him a lesson! But that's so immature and foolish. You don't teach him a lesson. If 50% of Prime customers left, he would still be doing remarkably well. He's built his business. Between AWS, how many customers he already has, his other investments/current business built up, you can't touch him. It's just such a stupid thing to do and it makes people who haven't thought through this kind of thing just end up hurting themselves. Prime is a service. As a mom, let me tell you, it's a lifesaver. As a consumer, the options you get on prime when you don't have to worry about ship costs on 99% of what I want is truly awesome. I hate Bezos too. But I don't hate him enough to hate myself and be so impractical as to believe that by denying myself, I'm actually hurting him at all. You can find someone much more of value to be noble for.

It's like climate change. It's like people who won't use A/C or whatever. OK - you won't make a dent in anything except to sweat your ass off. It's your choice but to promote this idea of nobility that you're somehow sacrificing to save all of us on earth is ridiculous. In the end, you hurt yourself. I say, use your A/C, drive, fly, eat meat, don't worry about how you're affecting climate change via your habits. Instead - DONATE to people who are researching solutions to how we're going to live when it'll be too hard to achieve a stable climate. OR, help think of solutions for when that time comes when none of us will be doing well. Look into where you can function when climate change hits your home - start saving up or something for a second home. Do something meaningful. But to just say - oh - what a horrible man Bezos is - I'm going to boycott Prime because I think he's wrong! That's just such a dumb reaction. You would need to boycott 1000 other companies or you are a total hypocrite because he's not the only one bowing down to Trump, guaranteed. Now, if you truly don't find yourself needing Prime as a business, that's legit. But be practical and honest about it. Prime is not just books for sure, there is a reason why Bezos is a billionaire, don't kid yourself on how good a business Amazon really is.

It all matters. This is how you’re choosing to change things, and that’s fine—great, even! But that doesn’t invalidate other methods of trying to make change.

You’ve created a strawman—“you think you’re teaching Bezos a lesson, but you’re not—you’re just punishing yourself!”—but if you actually listen to the people on this thread, they’re saying something else: they want to reduce support of businesses they believe are doing harm in the world. And for many, they don’t feel like leaving Amazon costs them much since the shopping experience is so janky. Many of us on here are moms, and leaving Amazon has not changed our qualify of life. It’s indispensable for you, and that’s fine. No one here is telling you to change your habits. But you seem very invested in convincing other people that their decision to stop using Amazon is wrong and bad. Why is that?

Because it promotes stupidity.

Because conceptually, it's at best hypocritical - you think all other big businesses aren't just as evil? And at worst, it sends the message to people to be illogical.

Business is a very practical transactional practice. You can't be mushy gooey not for profit. Good business is advantageous to all concerned but it's practical decision making at the heart of it. I'm not suggesting all good business is about being evil but I am suggesting that when people don't understand that in order to run a business, sometimes you make decisions which aren't popular or perfectly goody goody two shoes, it's because it keeps it moving.

I absolutely believe there is a line you can't cross and by crossing that line, it becomes bad business. In the case of all the IT CEOs including Bezos going to a new president's inauguration, I can't say that crosses a line however. WTF are you going to do? I don't agree with what they did, will prob do, I certainly am not a fan of Bezos, but this idea that you punish him by not using his stuff is stupid AF. You punish yourself is all you do.

Now this is all moot if you are boycotting because his business does not do you any good. If you want to go with another business for practical reasons that's totally different but to make it personal is a moronic approach that only uneducated people take.

People are so emotional that it's the easiest thing to be able to manipulate them. This kind of boycotting Prime because you think Bezos should kiss Trumps ring is the type of stuff that is completely meaningless. I guarantee that if it was your business - if you had the intellect and ruthlessness to build a brand to become one of the richest people on earth, you would do the same. It's a goddamn business. And it's not just Bezos. It's every single MF in that room with Trump who leads a F50 firm. I hate them all too but I don't hate myself as much so no, I am not going to not use their stuff for meaningless protest. Their stuff makes my life easier. I like my life easier because life is hard enough!

Business is not personal. There is a line but it's typically very complex to identify where it is. I also guarantee you that every single one of those F50 companies has at one time or another done many a shady things and will continue. You fight the shady stuff on its own merits to change that behavior you don't simply boycott a billion dollar business.

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Anonymous wrote:whats wrong with Prime?

Probably triggered by the sight of bezos bending the knee at the inauguration yesterday. He doesn’t have much to do with Amazon though. Most of the big tech bosses were there yesterday sniveling anyway. There’s no escaping it.

Triggered is right

Why do you feel the need to bully and belittle people who are doing something different than you?

DP here. Because it's so stupid to have this attitude of "punishing" a business because you don't like a CEO or what have you. First of all, it's a business. Second of all, if I showed you what all the big businesses do I will bet you a big bag of money that 98% of them have done or are doing something just as hypocritical, unsavory, borderline ethical, etc. as Bezos et al. They may not be at Trump's Inauguration and they may not be high profile with actions attracting much publicity, but running a big business is just not sunshine and roses.

Now, you can say - but I see Bezos and I want to teach him a lesson! But that's so immature and foolish. You don't teach him a lesson. If 50% of Prime customers left, he would still be doing remarkably well. He's built his business. Between AWS, how many customers he already has, his other investments/current business built up, you can't touch him. It's just such a stupid thing to do and it makes people who haven't thought through this kind of thing just end up hurting themselves. Prime is a service. As a mom, let me tell you, it's a lifesaver. As a consumer, the options you get on prime when you don't have to worry about ship costs on 99% of what I want is truly awesome. I hate Bezos too. But I don't hate him enough to hate myself and be so impractical as to believe that by denying myself, I'm actually hurting him at all. You can find someone much more of value to be noble for.

It's like climate change. It's like people who won't use A/C or whatever. OK - you won't make a dent in anything except to sweat your ass off. It's your choice but to promote this idea of nobility that you're somehow sacrificing to save all of us on earth is ridiculous. In the end, you hurt yourself. I say, use your A/C, drive, fly, eat meat, don't worry about how you're affecting climate change via your habits. Instead - DONATE to people who are researching solutions to how we're going to live when it'll be too hard to achieve a stable climate. OR, help think of solutions for when that time comes when none of us will be doing well. Look into where you can function when climate change hits your home - start saving up or something for a second home. Do something meaningful. But to just say - oh - what a horrible man Bezos is - I'm going to boycott Prime because I think he's wrong! That's just such a dumb reaction. You would need to boycott 1000 other companies or you are a total hypocrite because he's not the only one bowing down to Trump, guaranteed. Now, if you truly don't find yourself needing Prime as a business, that's legit. But be practical and honest about it. Prime is not just books for sure, there is a reason why Bezos is a billionaire, don't kid yourself on how good a business Amazon really is.

It all matters. This is how you’re choosing to change things, and that’s fine—great, even! But that doesn’t invalidate other methods of trying to make change.

You’ve created a strawman—“you think you’re teaching Bezos a lesson, but you’re not—you’re just punishing yourself!”—but if you actually listen to the people on this thread, they’re saying something else: they want to reduce support of businesses they believe are doing harm in the world. And for many, they don’t feel like leaving Amazon costs them much since the shopping experience is so janky. Many of us on here are moms, and leaving Amazon has not changed our qualify of life. It’s indispensable for you, and that’s fine. No one here is telling you to change your habits. But you seem very invested in convincing other people that their decision to stop using Amazon is wrong and bad. Why is that?

Because it promotes stupidity.

Because conceptually, it's at best hypocritical - you think all other big businesses aren't just as evil? And at worst, it sends the message to people to be illogical.

Business is a very practical transactional practice. You can't be mushy gooey not for profit. Good business is advantageous to all concerned but it's practical decision making at the heart of it. I'm not suggesting all good business is about being evil but I am suggesting that when people don't understand that in order to run a business, sometimes you make decisions which aren't popular or perfectly goody goody two shoes, it's because it keeps it moving.

I absolutely believe there is a line you can't cross and by crossing that line, it becomes bad business. In the case of all the IT CEOs including Bezos going to a new president's inauguration, I can't say that crosses a line however. WTF are you going to do? I don't agree with what they did, will prob do, I certainly am not a fan of Bezos, but this idea that you punish him by not using his stuff is stupid AF. You punish yourself is all you do.

Now this is all moot if you are boycotting because his business does not do you any good. If you want to go with another business for practical reasons that's totally different but to make it personal is a moronic approach that only uneducated people take.

People are so emotional that it's the easiest thing to be able to manipulate them. This kind of boycotting Prime because you think Bezos should kiss Trumps ring is the type of stuff that is completely meaningless. I guarantee that if it was your business - if you had the intellect and ruthlessness to build a brand to become one of the richest people on earth, you would do the same. It's a goddamn business. And it's not just Bezos. It's every single MF in that room with Trump who leads a F50 firm. I hate them all too but I don't hate myself as much so no, I am not going to not use their stuff for meaningless protest. Their stuff makes my life easier. I like my life easier because life is hard enough!

Business is not personal. There is a line but it's typically very complex to identify where it is. I also guarantee you that every single one of those F50 companies has at one time or another done many a shady things and will continue. You fight the shady stuff on its own merits to change that behavior you don't simply boycott a billion dollar business.

I got my MBA from Darden back when we thought stakeholders were important, not just shareholders. When we believed that employers had a responsibility to their communities and employees.

People should spend their money how *their own* consciences dictate. Not how you, random DCUM poster, tell them to. Mine tells me to avoid consumerism, especially when it directly benefits Jeff Bezos, whose company is destroying small businesses and the environment. And who used that money to buy a venerated newspaper whose credibility he destroyed. YMMV

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^^^oh, and it is possible to run a gigantic business with integrity.

Btw, your whole post is so full of logical fallacies that someone could teach a class with it as the only source material…

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Anonymous wrote:whats wrong with Prime?

Probably triggered by the sight of bezos bending the knee at the inauguration yesterday. He doesn’t have much to do with Amazon though. Most of the big tech bosses were there yesterday sniveling anyway. There’s no escaping it.

Triggered is right

Why do you feel the need to bully and belittle people who are doing something different than you?

DP here. Because it's so stupid to have this attitude of "punishing" a business because you don't like a CEO or what have you. First of all, it's a business. Second of all, if I showed you what all the big businesses do I will bet you a big bag of money that 98% of them have done or are doing something just as hypocritical, unsavory, borderline ethical, etc. as Bezos et al. They may not be at Trump's Inauguration and they may not be high profile with actions attracting much publicity, but running a big business is just not sunshine and roses.

Now, you can say - but I see Bezos and I want to teach him a lesson! But that's so immature and foolish. You don't teach him a lesson. If 50% of Prime customers left, he would still be doing remarkably well. He's built his business. Between AWS, how many customers he already has, his other investments/current business built up, you can't touch him. It's just such a stupid thing to do and it makes people who haven't thought through this kind of thing just end up hurting themselves. Prime is a service. As a mom, let me tell you, it's a lifesaver. As a consumer, the options you get on prime when you don't have to worry about ship costs on 99% of what I want is truly awesome. I hate Bezos too. But I don't hate him enough to hate myself and be so impractical as to believe that by denying myself, I'm actually hurting him at all. You can find someone much more of value to be noble for.

It's like climate change. It's like people who won't use A/C or whatever. OK - you won't make a dent in anything except to sweat your ass off. It's your choice but to promote this idea of nobility that you're somehow sacrificing to save all of us on earth is ridiculous. In the end, you hurt yourself. I say, use your A/C, drive, fly, eat meat, don't worry about how you're affecting climate change via your habits. Instead - DONATE to people who are researching solutions to how we're going to live when it'll be too hard to achieve a stable climate. OR, help think of solutions for when that time comes when none of us will be doing well. Look into where you can function when climate change hits your home - start saving up or something for a second home. Do something meaningful. But to just say - oh - what a horrible man Bezos is - I'm going to boycott Prime because I think he's wrong! That's just such a dumb reaction. You would need to boycott 1000 other companies or you are a total hypocrite because he's not the only one bowing down to Trump, guaranteed. Now, if you truly don't find yourself needing Prime as a business, that's legit. But be practical and honest about it. Prime is not just books for sure, there is a reason why Bezos is a billionaire, don't kid yourself on how good a business Amazon really is.

It all matters. This is how you’re choosing to change things, and that’s fine—great, even! But that doesn’t invalidate other methods of trying to make change.

You’ve created a strawman—“you think you’re teaching Bezos a lesson, but you’re not—you’re just punishing yourself!”—but if you actually listen to the people on this thread, they’re saying something else: they want to reduce support of businesses they believe are doing harm in the world. And for many, they don’t feel like leaving Amazon costs them much since the shopping experience is so janky. Many of us on here are moms, and leaving Amazon has not changed our qualify of life. It’s indispensable for you, and that’s fine. No one here is telling you to change your habits. But you seem very invested in convincing other people that their decision to stop using Amazon is wrong and bad. Why is that?

Because it promotes stupidity.

Because conceptually, it's at best hypocritical - you think all other big businesses aren't just as evil? And at worst, it sends the message to people to be illogical.

Business is a very practical transactional practice. You can't be mushy gooey not for profit. Good business is advantageous to all concerned but it's practical decision making at the heart of it. I'm not suggesting all good business is about being evil but I am suggesting that when people don't understand that in order to run a business, sometimes you make decisions which aren't popular or perfectly goody goody two shoes, it's because it keeps it moving.

I absolutely believe there is a line you can't cross and by crossing that line, it becomes bad business. In the case of all the IT CEOs including Bezos going to a new president's inauguration, I can't say that crosses a line however. WTF are you going to do? I don't agree with what they did, will prob do, I certainly am not a fan of Bezos, but this idea that you punish him by not using his stuff is stupid AF. You punish yourself is all you do.

Now this is all moot if you are boycotting because his business does not do you any good. If you want to go with another business for practical reasons that's totally different but to make it personal is a moronic approach that only uneducated people take.

People are so emotional that it's the easiest thing to be able to manipulate them. This kind of boycotting Prime because you think Bezos should kiss Trumps ring is the type of stuff that is completely meaningless. I guarantee that if it was your business - if you had the intellect and ruthlessness to build a brand to become one of the richest people on earth, you would do the same. It's a goddamn business. And it's not just Bezos. It's every single MF in that room with Trump who leads a F50 firm. I hate them all too but I don't hate myself as much so no, I am not going to not use their stuff for meaningless protest. Their stuff makes my life easier. I like my life easier because life is hard enough!

Business is not personal. There is a line but it's typically very complex to identify where it is. I also guarantee you that every single one of those F50 companies has at one time or another done many a shady things and will continue. You fight the shady stuff on its own merits to change that behavior you don't simply boycott a billion dollar business.

So many feelings about how I spend my money which is my property.

I’m going to do what I can.

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I’m all for people buying from places other than Amazon. Not because I virtue signal my shopping but because a diverse economy is good. So definitely buy from the other mega corporations so we don’t have just one taking over everything. Buy local, if possible. It all sounds positive.

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Anonymous wrote:whats wrong with Prime?

Probably triggered by the sight of bezos bending the knee at the inauguration yesterday. He doesn’t have much to do with Amazon though. Most of the big tech bosses were there yesterday sniveling anyway. There’s no escaping it.

Triggered is right

Why do you feel the need to bully and belittle people who are doing something different than you?

DP here. Because it's so stupid to have this attitude of "punishing" a business because you don't like a CEO or what have you. First of all, it's a business. Second of all, if I showed you what all the big businesses do I will bet you a big bag of money that 98% of them have done or are doing something just as hypocritical, unsavory, borderline ethical, etc. as Bezos et al. They may not be at Trump's Inauguration and they may not be high profile with actions attracting much publicity, but running a big business is just not sunshine and roses.

Now, you can say - but I see Bezos and I want to teach him a lesson! But that's so immature and foolish. You don't teach him a lesson. If 50% of Prime customers left, he would still be doing remarkably well. He's built his business. Between AWS, how many customers he already has, his other investments/current business built up, you can't touch him. It's just such a stupid thing to do and it makes people who haven't thought through this kind of thing just end up hurting themselves. Prime is a service. As a mom, let me tell you, it's a lifesaver. As a consumer, the options you get on prime when you don't have to worry about ship costs on 99% of what I want is truly awesome. I hate Bezos too. But I don't hate him enough to hate myself and be so impractical as to believe that by denying myself, I'm actually hurting him at all. You can find someone much more of value to be noble for.

It's like climate change. It's like people who won't use A/C or whatever. OK - you won't make a dent in anything except to sweat your ass off. It's your choice but to promote this idea of nobility that you're somehow sacrificing to save all of us on earth is ridiculous. In the end, you hurt yourself. I say, use your A/C, drive, fly, eat meat, don't worry about how you're affecting climate change via your habits. Instead - DONATE to people who are researching solutions to how we're going to live when it'll be too hard to achieve a stable climate. OR, help think of solutions for when that time comes when none of us will be doing well. Look into where you can function when climate change hits your home - start saving up or something for a second home. Do something meaningful. But to just say - oh - what a horrible man Bezos is - I'm going to boycott Prime because I think he's wrong! That's just such a dumb reaction. You would need to boycott 1000 other companies or you are a total hypocrite because he's not the only one bowing down to Trump, guaranteed. Now, if you truly don't find yourself needing Prime as a business, that's legit. But be practical and honest about it. Prime is not just books for sure, there is a reason why Bezos is a billionaire, don't kid yourself on how good a business Amazon really is.

It all matters. This is how you’re choosing to change things, and that’s fine—great, even! But that doesn’t invalidate other methods of trying to make change.

You’ve created a strawman—“you think you’re teaching Bezos a lesson, but you’re not—you’re just punishing yourself!”—but if you actually listen to the people on this thread, they’re saying something else: they want to reduce support of businesses they believe are doing harm in the world. And for many, they don’t feel like leaving Amazon costs them much since the shopping experience is so janky. Many of us on here are moms, and leaving Amazon has not changed our qualify of life. It’s indispensable for you, and that’s fine. No one here is telling you to change your habits. But you seem very invested in convincing other people that their decision to stop using Amazon is wrong and bad. Why is that?

Agreed!

Bezos owns stock. He does not take an income. He is not running Amazon and not hands on. However, many many people are employed by amazon and you are hurting them.

Cry me a river. You sound like you’re doing PR for Amazon. He benefits from the stock. Amazon exploits their employees- don’t act like they’re some savior.

Amazon is a huge company and it depends on the job, team and supervisor. Just like any job. We benefit from stock too and Amazon feeds our family. You clearly have no clue how it works.

What about all the families that were fed by businesses that Amazon drove out of business?

You also seem to be saying that the rest of us have an obligation to use a corporation that gives money to the GOP to support your family. What are you doing to support my family?

For those claiming that Bezos has nothing to do with Amazon, he owns around 920 million shares. That’s about $220 billion. The vast majority of his ~$250 billion net worth.

He owns stock which is about 10%. He no longer runs it.

It doesn’t matter whether he runs it. Amazon stock comprises nearly 90% of his wealth. Reduce Amazon’s value, reduce Jeff’s wealth.

It’s disturbing and funny how hard some posters are working to dissuade people from making choices about their own money.