Two dogs killed & two women injured

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Anonymous wrote:Unleashed dogs, dogs in stores, dogs in restaurants. All of this goes back to loose and unenforced animal laws. It all comes down to selfish, uneducated and entitled dog owners.

I’m also going place blame on rescues shipping in unwanted dogs from other states. So many of them are Pitbulls and pit mixes.

Pit bulls are inherently stronger with a jaw that locks on. It makes them so dangerous and while other dogs can also bite, like a golden retriever or a Chihuahua, they don’t have the jaw strength that a pitbull does and doesn’t make them as dangerous.

Their. Jaws. Do. Not. Lock.

Seriously.

This is so easy to debunk if you try, even just a little. They don't have the strongest bite force, their jaws do not lock, they're far from the only breed trained to grab and hold...

You do your own point no service when you trot out these tropes.

Do you prefer if I say ‘they clamp down really really really really hard and it’s really really really hard to open them back up’?

Is there a worse group of people on the planet than the pit bull apologists? They constantly resort to semantics to defend their right to own ticking-time-bomb ugly monster dogs.

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Anonymous wrote:Moco360 reports that the attacking dog was a pit bull:
https://moco360.media/2024/12/18/pitbull-fatally-shot-wednesday-after-attacking-two-women-in-bethesda/

duh

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Anonymous wrote:It just got removed but one of the pit defenders just called me a dumba## for walking my leashed dog in a public walking path while he sniffed the OUTSIDE perimeter of a pit owners yard, causing the pit to go crazy vicious. Pit owners and defenders, really, you do no one any favors by blaming other people for engaging in normal behavior like walking their leashed dog along a walking trail.

You really should not be letting your dog sniff fences. That is basically etiquette. Have your dog under better control.

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Anonymous wrote:It just got removed but one of the pit defenders just called me a dumba## for walking my leashed dog in a public walking path while he sniffed the OUTSIDE perimeter of a pit owners yard, causing the pit to go crazy vicious. Pit owners and defenders, really, you do no one any favors by blaming other people for engaging in normal behavior like walking their leashed dog along a walking trail.

You really should not be letting your dog sniff fences. That is basically etiquette. Have your dog under better control.

Not sure if serious? If you're trolling, you need to do a better job because it's hard to tell anymore.

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NP are pit posts auto deleted? I posted this AM about my neighbors who recently got a rescue pit and the post is gone.

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So sad. And no amount of money will bring that lady's dog back.

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no breed description? hmmmm.

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Anonymous wrote:Moco360 reports that the attacking dog was a pit bull:
https://moco360.media/2024/12/18/pitbull-fatally-shot-wednesday-after-attacking-two-women-in-bethesda/

Was it a rescue?

I have never met anyone with a pit bull that wasn’t a rescue. I guess there are pit bull breeders out there and I guess there are some people out there who willingly get one from a breeder, but in my UMC liberal circles, all the pits are rescues. I’d be super duper surprised if there is a pit in bethesda that’s not a rescue.

Makes sense. Rescues are dangerous. Pitbulls are dangerous. It’s a terrible combination.

This isn't so. You do realize that there are Golden Retriever rescues, Border collie rescues etc and they aren't dangerous? If dogs attacked all the time this wouldn't be news.

There are 4.5 million dog bites a year

"the PITBULL was not contained and was EATING THE OTHER DOG in the yard of a residence"

Because rescues were abused and attack

Clearly you don't volunteer for a rescue. The majority of dogs come in because people are moving, or their schedules change (all the pandemic puppies when their owners went back to working in the office instead of at-home), or they've had a kid and the dog isn't a good fit...

Abused animals have a different protocol, get separated for different screening, and are usually NOT just adopted out to anyone. Those of us who volunteer our time and energy do it because we love the animals and want better for them.

Then you ignorant idiots come along and post out your backsides with this absolute nonsense, and somehow it's taken as truth.

Go volunteer at a shelter and learn something. Clear your dishonesty debts.

I’m a little confused by your post only because I know so many people with rescue dogs that say things like “he doesn’t like men—they think he was probably abused by one.” Or “he doesn’t like kids—they think he probably had bad experiences with them.” These are like your run of the mill dog adopters, not people that have any special training dealing with traumatized animals or anything. I totally agree that not all rescues are like this but in my social circle, I’d say about half of the rescues have some sort of anxiety trigger that is known to the owners.

Ah, yes, the magical thinking that untrained owners use to justify improperly training their animals. "He doesn't like men"? Well then, your job is to encounter as many men as you can and retrain your dog. "he doesn't like kids?" Teach your dog to sit quietly and down stay outside the playground at recess time (outside; do not force your poorly trained animal on anyone, especially kids) until he calms down.

Very few shelters are going to adopt a truly traumatized/abused animal to a noob. It's bad for the dog and bad for the shelter (who will likely see the dog again in short order). Some people have their "every rescue dog has baggage" mentality linked up with their victim narratives and use it to justify all their dogs' poor behavior. Responsible owners don't make excuses. They train their dogs.

I've worked with a lot of dogs who really did have "damage". They're retrainable. I've got one now who would barely leave her crate when I first fostered her, even for hot dog pieces and other high-value treats. She'd lay flat anytime we tried to leash her (ever tried to walk a cat? like that :lol About half a year later, she's can still be skittish in unfamiliar environments, but we go on mile-long walks daily, past construction sites (full of men), and can do polite meet-and-greets with other dogs and their owners, including children. Part of that is that I know what I'm doing; I've been doing this for decades now. Most of that is that I didn't make excuses for my animal, and instead provided her with the training and resources she needed to overcome her insecurities/faults.

There is definitely a pervasive "rescued dog owner" mentality and it's a huge red flag to people who know better. Again, blame the owners/excuse-makers, not the animals. The sad thing is, dog training isn't some kind of arcane lore. It's entirely possible to read a few books, take a few classes, work with someone who knows more than you do and rescue an average dog with excellent results. That so many people don't is about the low-quality of dog owners these days, not a statement about their poorly-handled pets.

If you let your aggressive, scared of kids pit bull lay down outside my kids school at recess to “train it”, I’m going to call the police on you. My elementary kid is afraid of dogs after a dog (a pit bull of course, but you won’t believe me I’m sure) ran away from his owner and attacked his sister in front of him. (She is fine now, except for scarring on her arm, thanks for asking). If you subject him to your dog sitting directly outside the fence staring at him as he tries to have recess, you are a terrible human being.

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Anonymous wrote:Moco360 reports that the attacking dog was a pit bull:
https://moco360.media/2024/12/18/pitbull-fatally-shot-wednesday-after-attacking-two-women-in-bethesda/

Was it a rescue?

I have never met anyone with a pit bull that wasn’t a rescue. I guess there are pit bull breeders out there and I guess there are some people out there who willingly get one from a breeder, but in my UMC liberal circles, all the pits are rescues. I’d be super duper surprised if there is a pit in bethesda that’s not a rescue.

Makes sense. Rescues are dangerous. Pitbulls are dangerous. It’s a terrible combination.

This isn't so. You do realize that there are Golden Retriever rescues, Border collie rescues etc and they aren't dangerous? If dogs attacked all the time this wouldn't be news.

There are 4.5 million dog bites a year

"the PITBULL was not contained and was EATING THE OTHER DOG in the yard of a residence"

Because rescues were abused and attack

Clearly you don't volunteer for a rescue. The majority of dogs come in because people are moving, or their schedules change (all the pandemic puppies when their owners went back to working in the office instead of at-home), or they've had a kid and the dog isn't a good fit...

Abused animals have a different protocol, get separated for different screening, and are usually NOT just adopted out to anyone. Those of us who volunteer our time and energy do it because we love the animals and want better for them.

Then you ignorant idiots come along and post out your backsides with this absolute nonsense, and somehow it's taken as truth.

Go volunteer at a shelter and learn something. Clear your dishonesty debts.

I’m a little confused by your post only because I know so many people with rescue dogs that say things like “he doesn’t like men—they think he was probably abused by one.” Or “he doesn’t like kids—they think he probably had bad experiences with them.” These are like your run of the mill dog adopters, not people that have any special training dealing with traumatized animals or anything. I totally agree that not all rescues are like this but in my social circle, I’d say about half of the rescues have some sort of anxiety trigger that is known to the owners.

Ah, yes, the magical thinking that untrained owners use to justify improperly training their animals. "He doesn't like men"? Well then, your job is to encounter as many men as you can and retrain your dog. "he doesn't like kids?" Teach your dog to sit quietly and down stay outside the playground at recess time (outside; do not force your poorly trained animal on anyone, especially kids) until he calms down.

Very few shelters are going to adopt a truly traumatized/abused animal to a noob. It's bad for the dog and bad for the shelter (who will likely see the dog again in short order). Some people have their "every rescue dog has baggage" mentality linked up with their victim narratives and use it to justify all their dogs' poor behavior. Responsible owners don't make excuses. They train their dogs.

I've worked with a lot of dogs who really did have "damage". They're retrainable. I've got one now who would barely leave her crate when I first fostered her, even for hot dog pieces and other high-value treats. She'd lay flat anytime we tried to leash her (ever tried to walk a cat? like that :lol About half a year later, she's can still be skittish in unfamiliar environments, but we go on mile-long walks daily, past construction sites (full of men), and can do polite meet-and-greets with other dogs and their owners, including children. Part of that is that I know what I'm doing; I've been doing this for decades now. Most of that is that I didn't make excuses for my animal, and instead provided her with the training and resources she needed to overcome her insecurities/faults.

There is definitely a pervasive "rescued dog owner" mentality and it's a huge red flag to people who know better. Again, blame the owners/excuse-makers, not the animals. The sad thing is, dog training isn't some kind of arcane lore. It's entirely possible to read a few books, take a few classes, work with someone who knows more than you do and rescue an average dog with excellent results. That so many people don't is about the low-quality of dog owners these days, not a statement about their poorly-handled pets.

If you let your aggressive, scared of kids pit bull lay down outside my kids school at recess to “train it”, I’m going to call the police on you. My elementary kid is afraid of dogs after a dog (a pit bull of course, but you won’t believe me I’m sure) ran away from his owner and attacked his sister in front of him. (She is fine now, except for scarring on her arm, thanks for asking). If you subject him to your dog sitting directly outside the fence staring at him as he tries to have recess, you are a terrible human being.

DP. It sounds like both the rescue dog and your DC would benefit from PP.

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Anonymous wrote:Moco360 reports that the attacking dog was a pit bull:
https://moco360.media/2024/12/18/pitbull-fatally-shot-wednesday-after-attacking-two-women-in-bethesda/

Was it a rescue?

I have never met anyone with a pit bull that wasn’t a rescue. I guess there are pit bull breeders out there and I guess there are some people out there who willingly get one from a breeder, but in my UMC liberal circles, all the pits are rescues. I’d be super duper surprised if there is a pit in bethesda that’s not a rescue.

Makes sense. Rescues are dangerous. Pitbulls are dangerous. It’s a terrible combination.

This isn't so. You do realize that there are Golden Retriever rescues, Border collie rescues etc and they aren't dangerous? If dogs attacked all the time this wouldn't be news.

There are 4.5 million dog bites a year

"the PITBULL was not contained and was EATING THE OTHER DOG in the yard of a residence"

Because rescues were abused and attack

Clearly you don't volunteer for a rescue. The majority of dogs come in because people are moving, or their schedules change (all the pandemic puppies when their owners went back to working in the office instead of at-home), or they've had a kid and the dog isn't a good fit...

Abused animals have a different protocol, get separated for different screening, and are usually NOT just adopted out to anyone. Those of us who volunteer our time and energy do it because we love the animals and want better for them.

Then you ignorant idiots come along and post out your backsides with this absolute nonsense, and somehow it's taken as truth.

Go volunteer at a shelter and learn something. Clear your dishonesty debts.

I’m a little confused by your post only because I know so many people with rescue dogs that say things like “he doesn’t like men—they think he was probably abused by one.” Or “he doesn’t like kids—they think he probably had bad experiences with them.” These are like your run of the mill dog adopters, not people that have any special training dealing with traumatized animals or anything. I totally agree that not all rescues are like this but in my social circle, I’d say about half of the rescues have some sort of anxiety trigger that is known to the owners.

Ah, yes, the magical thinking that untrained owners use to justify improperly training their animals. "He doesn't like men"? Well then, your job is to encounter as many men as you can and retrain your dog. "he doesn't like kids?" Teach your dog to sit quietly and down stay outside the playground at recess time (outside; do not force your poorly trained animal on anyone, especially kids) until he calms down.

Very few shelters are going to adopt a truly traumatized/abused animal to a noob. It's bad for the dog and bad for the shelter (who will likely see the dog again in short order). Some people have their "every rescue dog has baggage" mentality linked up with their victim narratives and use it to justify all their dogs' poor behavior. Responsible owners don't make excuses. They train their dogs.

I've worked with a lot of dogs who really did have "damage". They're retrainable. I've got one now who would barely leave her crate when I first fostered her, even for hot dog pieces and other high-value treats. She'd lay flat anytime we tried to leash her (ever tried to walk a cat? like that :lol About half a year later, she's can still be skittish in unfamiliar environments, but we go on mile-long walks daily, past construction sites (full of men), and can do polite meet-and-greets with other dogs and their owners, including children. Part of that is that I know what I'm doing; I've been doing this for decades now. Most of that is that I didn't make excuses for my animal, and instead provided her with the training and resources she needed to overcome her insecurities/faults.

There is definitely a pervasive "rescued dog owner" mentality and it's a huge red flag to people who know better. Again, blame the owners/excuse-makers, not the animals. The sad thing is, dog training isn't some kind of arcane lore. It's entirely possible to read a few books, take a few classes, work with someone who knows more than you do and rescue an average dog with excellent results. That so many people don't is about the low-quality of dog owners these days, not a statement about their poorly-handled pets.

If you let your aggressive, scared of kids pit bull lay down outside my kids school at recess to “train it”, I’m going to call the police on you. My elementary kid is afraid of dogs after a dog (a pit bull of course, but you won’t believe me I’m sure) ran away from his owner and attacked his sister in front of him. (She is fine now, except for scarring on her arm, thanks for asking). If you subject him to your dog sitting directly outside the fence staring at him as he tries to have recess, you are a terrible human being.

And say what exactly?
There is a leashed dog outside a school?
You are nuts.

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Anonymous wrote:Moco360 reports that the attacking dog was a pit bull:
https://moco360.media/2024/12/18/pitbull-fatally-shot-wednesday-after-attacking-two-women-in-bethesda/

Was it a rescue?

I have never met anyone with a pit bull that wasn’t a rescue. I guess there are pit bull breeders out there and I guess there are some people out there who willingly get one from a breeder, but in my UMC liberal circles, all the pits are rescues. I’d be super duper surprised if there is a pit in bethesda that’s not a rescue.

Makes sense. Rescues are dangerous. Pitbulls are dangerous. It’s a terrible combination.

This isn't so. You do realize that there are Golden Retriever rescues, Border collie rescues etc and they aren't dangerous? If dogs attacked all the time this wouldn't be news.

There are 4.5 million dog bites a year

"the PITBULL was not contained and was EATING THE OTHER DOG in the yard of a residence"

Because rescues were abused and attack

Clearly you don't volunteer for a rescue. The majority of dogs come in because people are moving, or their schedules change (all the pandemic puppies when their owners went back to working in the office instead of at-home), or they've had a kid and the dog isn't a good fit...

Abused animals have a different protocol, get separated for different screening, and are usually NOT just adopted out to anyone. Those of us who volunteer our time and energy do it because we love the animals and want better for them.

Then you ignorant idiots come along and post out your backsides with this absolute nonsense, and somehow it's taken as truth.

Go volunteer at a shelter and learn something. Clear your dishonesty debts.

I’m a little confused by your post only because I know so many people with rescue dogs that say things like “he doesn’t like men—they think he was probably abused by one.” Or “he doesn’t like kids—they think he probably had bad experiences with them.” These are like your run of the mill dog adopters, not people that have any special training dealing with traumatized animals or anything. I totally agree that not all rescues are like this but in my social circle, I’d say about half of the rescues have some sort of anxiety trigger that is known to the owners.

Ah, yes, the magical thinking that untrained owners use to justify improperly training their animals. "He doesn't like men"? Well then, your job is to encounter as many men as you can and retrain your dog. "he doesn't like kids?" Teach your dog to sit quietly and down stay outside the playground at recess time (outside; do not force your poorly trained animal on anyone, especially kids) until he calms down.

Very few shelters are going to adopt a truly traumatized/abused animal to a noob. It's bad for the dog and bad for the shelter (who will likely see the dog again in short order). Some people have their "every rescue dog has baggage" mentality linked up with their victim narratives and use it to justify all their dogs' poor behavior. Responsible owners don't make excuses. They train their dogs.

I've worked with a lot of dogs who really did have "damage". They're retrainable. I've got one now who would barely leave her crate when I first fostered her, even for hot dog pieces and other high-value treats. She'd lay flat anytime we tried to leash her (ever tried to walk a cat? like that :lol About half a year later, she's can still be skittish in unfamiliar environments, but we go on mile-long walks daily, past construction sites (full of men), and can do polite meet-and-greets with other dogs and their owners, including children. Part of that is that I know what I'm doing; I've been doing this for decades now. Most of that is that I didn't make excuses for my animal, and instead provided her with the training and resources she needed to overcome her insecurities/faults.

There is definitely a pervasive "rescued dog owner" mentality and it's a huge red flag to people who know better. Again, blame the owners/excuse-makers, not the animals. The sad thing is, dog training isn't some kind of arcane lore. It's entirely possible to read a few books, take a few classes, work with someone who knows more than you do and rescue an average dog with excellent results. That so many people don't is about the low-quality of dog owners these days, not a statement about their poorly-handled pets.

If you let your aggressive, scared of kids pit bull lay down outside my kids school at recess to “train it”, I’m going to call the police on you. My elementary kid is afraid of dogs after a dog (a pit bull of course, but you won’t believe me I’m sure) ran away from his owner and attacked his sister in front of him. (She is fine now, except for scarring on her arm, thanks for asking). If you subject him to your dog sitting directly outside the fence staring at him as he tries to have recess, you are a terrible human being.

DP. It sounds like both the rescue dog and your DC would benefit from PP.

My kids both see a therapist for PTSD, thanks. I don’t need your “help” by posting your aggressive towards children dog outside my kids recess in order to train it. I’d personally rather your dog just be euthanized if it’s aggressive to children, but since I can’t do that, I’ll focus on making sure you don’t use my traumatized kids to train your dog during elementary school recess when they’re supposed to be relaxing and playing, not being forced to undergo exposure therapy.

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Anonymous wrote:Moco360 reports that the attacking dog was a pit bull:
https://moco360.media/2024/12/18/pitbull-fatally-shot-wednesday-after-attacking-two-women-in-bethesda/

Was it a rescue?

I have never met anyone with a pit bull that wasn’t a rescue. I guess there are pit bull breeders out there and I guess there are some people out there who willingly get one from a breeder, but in my UMC liberal circles, all the pits are rescues. I’d be super duper surprised if there is a pit in bethesda that’s not a rescue.

Makes sense. Rescues are dangerous. Pitbulls are dangerous. It’s a terrible combination.

This isn't so. You do realize that there are Golden Retriever rescues, Border collie rescues etc and they aren't dangerous? If dogs attacked all the time this wouldn't be news.

There are 4.5 million dog bites a year

"the PITBULL was not contained and was EATING THE OTHER DOG in the yard of a residence"

Because rescues were abused and attack

Clearly you don't volunteer for a rescue. The majority of dogs come in because people are moving, or their schedules change (all the pandemic puppies when their owners went back to working in the office instead of at-home), or they've had a kid and the dog isn't a good fit...

Abused animals have a different protocol, get separated for different screening, and are usually NOT just adopted out to anyone. Those of us who volunteer our time and energy do it because we love the animals and want better for them.

Then you ignorant idiots come along and post out your backsides with this absolute nonsense, and somehow it's taken as truth.

Go volunteer at a shelter and learn something. Clear your dishonesty debts.

I’m a little confused by your post only because I know so many people with rescue dogs that say things like “he doesn’t like men—they think he was probably abused by one.” Or “he doesn’t like kids—they think he probably had bad experiences with them.” These are like your run of the mill dog adopters, not people that have any special training dealing with traumatized animals or anything. I totally agree that not all rescues are like this but in my social circle, I’d say about half of the rescues have some sort of anxiety trigger that is known to the owners.

Ah, yes, the magical thinking that untrained owners use to justify improperly training their animals. "He doesn't like men"? Well then, your job is to encounter as many men as you can and retrain your dog. "he doesn't like kids?" Teach your dog to sit quietly and down stay outside the playground at recess time (outside; do not force your poorly trained animal on anyone, especially kids) until he calms down.

Very few shelters are going to adopt a truly traumatized/abused animal to a noob. It's bad for the dog and bad for the shelter (who will likely see the dog again in short order). Some people have their "every rescue dog has baggage" mentality linked up with their victim narratives and use it to justify all their dogs' poor behavior. Responsible owners don't make excuses. They train their dogs.

I've worked with a lot of dogs who really did have "damage". They're retrainable. I've got one now who would barely leave her crate when I first fostered her, even for hot dog pieces and other high-value treats. She'd lay flat anytime we tried to leash her (ever tried to walk a cat? like that :lol About half a year later, she's can still be skittish in unfamiliar environments, but we go on mile-long walks daily, past construction sites (full of men), and can do polite meet-and-greets with other dogs and their owners, including children. Part of that is that I know what I'm doing; I've been doing this for decades now. Most of that is that I didn't make excuses for my animal, and instead provided her with the training and resources she needed to overcome her insecurities/faults.

There is definitely a pervasive "rescued dog owner" mentality and it's a huge red flag to people who know better. Again, blame the owners/excuse-makers, not the animals. The sad thing is, dog training isn't some kind of arcane lore. It's entirely possible to read a few books, take a few classes, work with someone who knows more than you do and rescue an average dog with excellent results. That so many people don't is about the low-quality of dog owners these days, not a statement about their poorly-handled pets.

If you let your aggressive, scared of kids pit bull lay down outside my kids school at recess to “train it”, I’m going to call the police on you. My elementary kid is afraid of dogs after a dog (a pit bull of course, but you won’t believe me I’m sure) ran away from his owner and attacked his sister in front of him. (She is fine now, except for scarring on her arm, thanks for asking). If you subject him to your dog sitting directly outside the fence staring at him as he tries to have recess, you are a terrible human being.

And say what exactly?
There is a leashed dog outside a school?
You are nuts.

“There is a woman whose dog is aggressive to children who is posting up outside the playground to train her dog to get used to children, but he appears to be stronger than his owner and a few of the kids are scared by her” Because you know that’s exactly what will be happening.

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Anonymous wrote:Moco360 reports that the attacking dog was a pit bull:
https://moco360.media/2024/12/18/pitbull-fatally-shot-wednesday-after-attacking-two-women-in-bethesda/

Was it a rescue?

I have never met anyone with a pit bull that wasn’t a rescue. I guess there are pit bull breeders out there and I guess there are some people out there who willingly get one from a breeder, but in my UMC liberal circles, all the pits are rescues. I’d be super duper surprised if there is a pit in bethesda that’s not a rescue.

Makes sense. Rescues are dangerous. Pitbulls are dangerous. It’s a terrible combination.

This isn't so. You do realize that there are Golden Retriever rescues, Border collie rescues etc and they aren't dangerous? If dogs attacked all the time this wouldn't be news.

There are 4.5 million dog bites a year

"the PITBULL was not contained and was EATING THE OTHER DOG in the yard of a residence"

Because rescues were abused and attack

Clearly you don't volunteer for a rescue. The majority of dogs come in because people are moving, or their schedules change (all the pandemic puppies when their owners went back to working in the office instead of at-home), or they've had a kid and the dog isn't a good fit...

Abused animals have a different protocol, get separated for different screening, and are usually NOT just adopted out to anyone. Those of us who volunteer our time and energy do it because we love the animals and want better for them.

Then you ignorant idiots come along and post out your backsides with this absolute nonsense, and somehow it's taken as truth.

Go volunteer at a shelter and learn something. Clear your dishonesty debts.

I’m a little confused by your post only because I know so many people with rescue dogs that say things like “he doesn’t like men—they think he was probably abused by one.” Or “he doesn’t like kids—they think he probably had bad experiences with them.” These are like your run of the mill dog adopters, not people that have any special training dealing with traumatized animals or anything. I totally agree that not all rescues are like this but in my social circle, I’d say about half of the rescues have some sort of anxiety trigger that is known to the owners.

Ah, yes, the magical thinking that untrained owners use to justify improperly training their animals. "He doesn't like men"? Well then, your job is to encounter as many men as you can and retrain your dog. "he doesn't like kids?" Teach your dog to sit quietly and down stay outside the playground at recess time (outside; do not force your poorly trained animal on anyone, especially kids) until he calms down.

Very few shelters are going to adopt a truly traumatized/abused animal to a noob. It's bad for the dog and bad for the shelter (who will likely see the dog again in short order). Some people have their "every rescue dog has baggage" mentality linked up with their victim narratives and use it to justify all their dogs' poor behavior. Responsible owners don't make excuses. They train their dogs.

I've worked with a lot of dogs who really did have "damage". They're retrainable. I've got one now who would barely leave her crate when I first fostered her, even for hot dog pieces and other high-value treats. She'd lay flat anytime we tried to leash her (ever tried to walk a cat? like that :lol About half a year later, she's can still be skittish in unfamiliar environments, but we go on mile-long walks daily, past construction sites (full of men), and can do polite meet-and-greets with other dogs and their owners, including children. Part of that is that I know what I'm doing; I've been doing this for decades now. Most of that is that I didn't make excuses for my animal, and instead provided her with the training and resources she needed to overcome her insecurities/faults.

There is definitely a pervasive "rescued dog owner" mentality and it's a huge red flag to people who know better. Again, blame the owners/excuse-makers, not the animals. The sad thing is, dog training isn't some kind of arcane lore. It's entirely possible to read a few books, take a few classes, work with someone who knows more than you do and rescue an average dog with excellent results. That so many people don't is about the low-quality of dog owners these days, not a statement about their poorly-handled pets.

If you let your aggressive, scared of kids pit bull lay down outside my kids school at recess to “train it”, I’m going to call the police on you. My elementary kid is afraid of dogs after a dog (a pit bull of course, but you won’t believe me I’m sure) ran away from his owner and attacked his sister in front of him. (She is fine now, except for scarring on her arm, thanks for asking). If you subject him to your dog sitting directly outside the fence staring at him as he tries to have recess, you are a terrible human being.

And say what exactly?
There is a leashed dog outside a school?
You are nuts.

Correct, you can’t loiter outside a school playground to stare at the kids, with or without your pit bull.

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Anonymous wrote:Moco360 reports that the attacking dog was a pit bull:
https://moco360.media/2024/12/18/pitbull-fatally-shot-wednesday-after-attacking-two-women-in-bethesda/

Was it a rescue?

I have never met anyone with a pit bull that wasn’t a rescue. I guess there are pit bull breeders out there and I guess there are some people out there who willingly get one from a breeder, but in my UMC liberal circles, all the pits are rescues. I’d be super duper surprised if there is a pit in bethesda that’s not a rescue.

Makes sense. Rescues are dangerous. Pitbulls are dangerous. It’s a terrible combination.

This isn't so. You do realize that there are Golden Retriever rescues, Border collie rescues etc and they aren't dangerous? If dogs attacked all the time this wouldn't be news.

There are 4.5 million dog bites a year

"the PITBULL was not contained and was EATING THE OTHER DOG in the yard of a residence"

Because rescues were abused and attack

Clearly you don't volunteer for a rescue. The majority of dogs come in because people are moving, or their schedules change (all the pandemic puppies when their owners went back to working in the office instead of at-home), or they've had a kid and the dog isn't a good fit...

Abused animals have a different protocol, get separated for different screening, and are usually NOT just adopted out to anyone. Those of us who volunteer our time and energy do it because we love the animals and want better for them.

Then you ignorant idiots come along and post out your backsides with this absolute nonsense, and somehow it's taken as truth.

Go volunteer at a shelter and learn something. Clear your dishonesty debts.

I’m a little confused by your post only because I know so many people with rescue dogs that say things like “he doesn’t like men—they think he was probably abused by one.” Or “he doesn’t like kids—they think he probably had bad experiences with them.” These are like your run of the mill dog adopters, not people that have any special training dealing with traumatized animals or anything. I totally agree that not all rescues are like this but in my social circle, I’d say about half of the rescues have some sort of anxiety trigger that is known to the owners.

Ah, yes, the magical thinking that untrained owners use to justify improperly training their animals. "He doesn't like men"? Well then, your job is to encounter as many men as you can and retrain your dog. "he doesn't like kids?" Teach your dog to sit quietly and down stay outside the playground at recess time (outside; do not force your poorly trained animal on anyone, especially kids) until he calms down.

Very few shelters are going to adopt a truly traumatized/abused animal to a noob. It's bad for the dog and bad for the shelter (who will likely see the dog again in short order). Some people have their "every rescue dog has baggage" mentality linked up with their victim narratives and use it to justify all their dogs' poor behavior. Responsible owners don't make excuses. They train their dogs.

I've worked with a lot of dogs who really did have "damage". They're retrainable. I've got one now who would barely leave her crate when I first fostered her, even for hot dog pieces and other high-value treats. She'd lay flat anytime we tried to leash her (ever tried to walk a cat? like that :lol About half a year later, she's can still be skittish in unfamiliar environments, but we go on mile-long walks daily, past construction sites (full of men), and can do polite meet-and-greets with other dogs and their owners, including children. Part of that is that I know what I'm doing; I've been doing this for decades now. Most of that is that I didn't make excuses for my animal, and instead provided her with the training and resources she needed to overcome her insecurities/faults.

There is definitely a pervasive "rescued dog owner" mentality and it's a huge red flag to people who know better. Again, blame the owners/excuse-makers, not the animals. The sad thing is, dog training isn't some kind of arcane lore. It's entirely possible to read a few books, take a few classes, work with someone who knows more than you do and rescue an average dog with excellent results. That so many people don't is about the low-quality of dog owners these days, not a statement about their poorly-handled pets.

If you let your aggressive, scared of kids pit bull lay down outside my kids school at recess to “train it”, I’m going to call the police on you. My elementary kid is afraid of dogs after a dog (a pit bull of course, but you won’t believe me I’m sure) ran away from his owner and attacked his sister in front of him. (She is fine now, except for scarring on her arm, thanks for asking). If you subject him to your dog sitting directly outside the fence staring at him as he tries to have recess, you are a terrible human being.

DP. It sounds like both the rescue dog and your DC would benefit from PP.

My kids both see a therapist for PTSD, thanks. I don’t need your “help” by posting your aggressive towards children dog outside my kids recess in order to train it. I’d personally rather your dog just be euthanized if it’s aggressive to children, but since I can’t do that, I’ll focus on making sure you don’t use my traumatized kids to train your dog during elementary school recess when they’re supposed to be relaxing and playing, not being forced to undergo exposure therapy.

Since you are posting here, I will give you more unsolicited advice. Drop the "therapist". Your kids don't need it, and by your admission, it isn't helping.

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Anonymous wrote:They are bred to bite down and not let go. The opposite is something like a Lab that is bred to have a soft mouth when they retrieve ducks when hunting.

I dog sat for a friend with a pit bull. Very friendly girl but she would bite down on toys or bully sticks and wouldn't let go. It was almost like her jaws were locked. If that had been a part of my body, I would've bled out if nobody was around to call for help.

This is a myth. Do your research before spreading fake info.

Pit Bull's "Hold and Shake" Bite Style
A pit bull's bite is designed to inflict the maximum damage possible on its victim. Through selective breeding, pit bulls have developed enormous jaw strength and a "hold and shake" bite style. The pit bull's jaws lock onto its victim and violently shake the victim, refusing to let go. Even Good Samaritans who attempt to free the victim by employing hoses, hammers, bats, and pipes on the pit bull are often unsuccessful.

The pit bull's "hold and shake" bite style can cause severe bone and muscle damage. The injuries inflicted are often permanent and disfiguring. Injuries suffered by the victims of pit bull attacks are comparable to those suffered by shark attack victims.