Two dogs killed & two women injured

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Anonymous wrote:the posters posting the dog bite statistics is misleading - it is true all breeds can bite but they do not all maul or kill other dogs walking around neighborhoods. Dachsunds probably have pretty high bite stats but there is no change the surly hotdog dog down the street is going to kill my standard poodle. Not so sure about the growling pit mixes that we go way out of our way to avoid.

I was walking my leashed dog along a trail and he was sniffing at a fence that backed to the trail. The owner yelled over to back up becuase his dog (pit) was vicious. Dude, if you are so worried about your dog attacking another dog who is on the other side of a 6 foot fence from him then perhaps this is not the right dog for a residential neighborhood, particularly if your yard backs up to a walking trail. This is my issue with pit owners — I’ve never met a GSD or Rottweiler owner that didn’t have respect for the breed and its strengths/challenges. The pit owners are just largely oblivious and I blame it one the culture of “adopt don’t buy” combined with the rescues acting like these are not dogs with particular needs—the combination means that people are guilted into getting dogs that they are not qualified to handle and don’t have the right environment for. I think the pit fans do themselves no favors with this attitude.

Pit owners are not oblivious. They know exactly what they are doing when they buy or adopt a pit bull. The entire purpose of owning the most violent breed on Earth is to scare and intimidate other people. They are like the open carry gun fanatics. The reason people have a weapon like a pit bull is to terrorize their community. Without exception, pit bull owners are all lowlife psychopaths who lack empathy or concern for others.

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Anonymous wrote:Moco360 reports that the attacking dog was a pit bull:
https://moco360.media/2024/12/18/pitbull-fatally-shot-wednesday-after-attacking-two-women-in-bethesda/

Was it a rescue?

I have never met anyone with a pit bull that wasn’t a rescue. I guess there are pit bull breeders out there and I guess there are some people out there who willingly get one from a breeder, but in my UMC liberal circles, all the pits are rescues. I’d be super duper surprised if there is a pit in bethesda that’s not a rescue.

Makes sense. Rescues are dangerous. Pitbulls are dangerous. It’s a terrible combination.

This isn't so. You do realize that there are Golden Retriever rescues, Border collie rescues etc and they aren't dangerous? If dogs attacked all the time this wouldn't be news.

There are 4.5 million dog bites a year

"the PITBULL was not contained and was EATING THE OTHER DOG in the yard of a residence"

To the stupid, this will read as "horribly violent dog does unspeakable thing because pit bulls are evil". To the intelligent, and especially those who understand dogs, it's more a clue that the dog was likely badly malnourished, which is a sign of abuse.

There's a clickbait "news" article in the pit hate thread showing some dude's XL bully that turned on him. Dog is emaciated, coat is in terrible condition... Dogs are animals and they need to eat. As unpleasant as it is to read about, there's logic and reason behind it, and the reason isn't "the dog('s whole breed) is clearly evil"

I hope the owner is found and fined.

I am not a fan of, or supporter of pit bulls in general. But this poster makes a good point. The recipient of a face transplant had her face partially eaten by her lab--it's not always a breed issue. (Lab was starving, she was unconscious, if I recall correctly).

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Unleashed dogs, dogs in stores, dogs in restaurants. All of this goes back to loose and unenforced animal laws. It all comes down to selfish, uneducated and entitled dog owners.

I’m also going place blame on rescues shipping in unwanted dogs from other states. So many of them are Pitbulls and pit mixes.

Pit bulls are inherently stronger with a jaw that locks on. It makes them so dangerous and while other dogs can also bite, like a golden retriever or a Chihuahua, they don’t have the jaw strength that a pitbull does and doesn’t make them as dangerous.

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They are bred to bite down and not let go. The opposite is something like a Lab that is bred to have a soft mouth when they retrieve ducks when hunting.

I dog sat for a friend with a pit bull. Very friendly girl but she would bite down on toys or bully sticks and wouldn't let go. It was almost like her jaws were locked. If that had been a part of my body, I would've bled out if nobody was around to call for help.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:They are bred to bite down and not let go. The opposite is something like a Lab that is bred to have a soft mouth when they retrieve ducks when hunting.

I dog sat for a friend with a pit bull. Very friendly girl but she would bite down on toys or bully sticks and wouldn't let go. It was almost like her jaws were locked. If that had been a part of my body, I would've bled out if nobody was around to call for help.

This is a myth. Do your research before spreading fake info.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:the posters posting the dog bite statistics is misleading - it is true all breeds can bite but they do not all maul or kill other dogs walking around neighborhoods. Dachsunds probably have pretty high bite stats but there is no change the surly hotdog dog down the street is going to kill my standard poodle. Not so sure about the growling pit mixes that we go way out of our way to avoid.

If you can go out of your way to avoid the "growling pit mix" it wasn't in your way or attacking you to begin with.

Make up your damned minds. They either attack everything at will, or they can be easily avoided, provided you're paying attention and your dog is leashed and properly under your control. You can't have it both ways and still seem sane.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Unleashed dogs, dogs in stores, dogs in restaurants. All of this goes back to loose and unenforced animal laws. It all comes down to selfish, uneducated and entitled dog owners.

I’m also going place blame on rescues shipping in unwanted dogs from other states. So many of them are Pitbulls and pit mixes.

Pit bulls are inherently stronger with a jaw that locks on. It makes them so dangerous and while other dogs can also bite, like a golden retriever or a Chihuahua, they don’t have the jaw strength that a pitbull does and doesn’t make them as dangerous.

Their. Jaws. Do. Not. Lock.

Seriously.

This is so easy to debunk if you try, even just a little. They don't have the strongest bite force, their jaws do not lock, they're far from the only breed trained to grab and hold...

You do your own point no service when you trot out these tropes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:They are bred to bite down and not let go. The opposite is something like a Lab that is bred to have a soft mouth when they retrieve ducks when hunting.

I dog sat for a friend with a pit bull. Very friendly girl but she would bite down on toys or bully sticks and wouldn't let go. It was almost like her jaws were locked. If that had been a part of my body, I would've bled out if nobody was around to call for help.

But it wasn't. By your own admission, she was a very friendly girl, playing with her toys, and your comment is paranoid hypothetical, at best. It also doesn't sound like you told her to "drop it", which all reasonable dog trainers (of any breed of dog) train their dogs to do before playing tug-of-war or other territorial/power games. "give it" and "drop it" are puppy basics for all breeds.

Y'all don't know what the hell you're doing and then you blame the animals. It's dangerously ignorant.

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Anonymous wrote:They are bred to bite down and not let go. The opposite is something like a Lab that is bred to have a soft mouth when they retrieve ducks when hunting.

I dog sat for a friend with a pit bull. Very friendly girl but she would bite down on toys or bully sticks and wouldn't let go. It was almost like her jaws were locked. If that had been a part of my body, I would've bled out if nobody was around to call for help.

This is a myth. Do your research before spreading fake info.

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:the posters posting the dog bite statistics is misleading - it is true all breeds can bite but they do not all maul or kill other dogs walking around neighborhoods. Dachsunds probably have pretty high bite stats but there is no change the surly hotdog dog down the street is going to kill my standard poodle. Not so sure about the growling pit mixes that we go way out of our way to avoid.

This is true. Chihuahuas can be very bite-y dogs if not trained out if them, and their biting can be really aggressive (they have shockingly strong jaws for their size), but the odds of a Chihuahua killing a human or another dog are still very slim.

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Anonymous wrote:the posters posting the dog bite statistics is misleading - it is true all breeds can bite but they do not all maul or kill other dogs walking around neighborhoods. Dachsunds probably have pretty high bite stats but there is no change the surly hotdog dog down the street is going to kill my standard poodle. Not so sure about the growling pit mixes that we go way out of our way to avoid.

I was walking my leashed dog along a trail and he was sniffing at a fence that backed to the trail. The owner yelled over to back up becuase his dog (pit) was vicious. Dude, if you are so worried about your dog attacking another dog who is on the other side of a 6 foot fence from him then perhaps this is not the right dog for a residential neighborhood, particularly if your yard backs up to a walking trail. This is my issue with pit owners — I’ve never met a GSD or Rottweiler owner that didn’t have respect for the breed and its strengths/challenges. The pit owners are just largely oblivious and I blame it one the culture of “adopt don’t buy” combined with the rescues acting like these are not dogs with particular needs—the combination means that people are guilted into getting dogs that they are not qualified to handle and don’t have the right environment for. I think the pit fans do themselves no favors with this attitude.

Pit owners are not oblivious. They know exactly what they are doing when they buy or adopt a pit bull. The entire purpose of owning the most violent breed on Earth is to scare and intimidate other people. They are like the open carry gun fanatics. The reason people have a weapon like a pit bull is to terrorize their community. Without exception, pit bull owners are all lowlife psychopaths who lack empathy or concern for others.

Please identify so I can avoid your crazy ass. Lordy Jaysus...

1) not "the most violent breed on Earth". Not by a long shot. You clearly know little more than clickbait news has taught you about dog breeds if you believe this.
2) Why do you think people get GSDs, Rotties, Dobies, etc.? Yes, we want you to leave us, and our dogs, alone. Why is that a problem for you? Why do you feel so entitled to other people's time and space that you see their dogs as "terrorizing" you simply by existing? Maybe if you were less psychotic and understood how to mind your own damned business, people wouldn't feel a need to walk a giant "stay back" warning?
3) Speaking of lacking empathy and concern for others, not a single one of your anti-pit nutters can make a solid, fact-based case without sounding like a deranged lunatic. You are so full of your own vitriol that you completely lack the ability to simply allow others to disagree with some grace. You don't listen to facts, you won't change your minds, you are closed-minded bigots, devoid of empathy and concern for others AND common sense.

Be quiet. And maybe take your meds? You sound unstable. maybe you're projecting your own character defects onto "pit bulls" instead of getting the help you need...

DP. Are you aware which thread you are posting on? Take a look at the thread title, if you forgot.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:They are bred to bite down and not let go. The opposite is something like a Lab that is bred to have a soft mouth when they retrieve ducks when hunting.

I dog sat for a friend with a pit bull. Very friendly girl but she would bite down on toys or bully sticks and wouldn't let go. It was almost like her jaws were locked. If that had been a part of my body, I would've bled out if nobody was around to call for help.

This is a myth. Do your research before spreading fake info.

It is not a myth. From the ASPCA's statement in pit bull breeds:

"Dog breeds are characterized by certain physical and behavioral traits... Today’s pit bull is a descendant of the original English bull-baiting dog—a dog that was bred to bite and hold bulls, bears and other large animals around the face and head. When baiting large animals was outlawed in the 1800s, people turned instead to fighting their dogs against each other. These larger, slower bull-baiting dogs were crossed with smaller, quicker terriers to produce a more agile and athletic dog for fighting other dogs."

https://www.aspca.org/about-us/aspca-policy-and-position-statements/position-statement-pit-bulls

They go on to say that pits have positive qualities and can be friendly, sociable dogs. But it's important to understand tendencies in breeds. A major reason pits pose a threat is that people will adopt them specifically for the qualities mentioned above, because they want an aggressive dog. With a pit, a bad owner who encourages aggression is more dangerous than with other dog breeds who don't have the breeding or physicality for fighting/attack that pits do.

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It just got removed but one of the pit defenders just called me a dumba## for walking my leashed dog in a public walking path while he sniffed the OUTSIDE perimeter of a pit owners yard, causing the pit to go crazy vicious. Pit owners and defenders, really, you do no one any favors by blaming other people for engaging in normal behavior like walking their leashed dog along a walking trail.

[Anonymous]

Pit Bulls are crazy dangerous. When in pairs, they go on wild killing spree if running loose.

Insurance statistics show that, by far, Pit Bulls attack & bite humans & animals more than any other breed.

Pit Bull owners live in a fantasy world. Pits should be banned.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Unleashed dogs, dogs in stores, dogs in restaurants. All of this goes back to loose and unenforced animal laws. It all comes down to selfish, uneducated and entitled dog owners.

I’m also going place blame on rescues shipping in unwanted dogs from other states. So many of them are Pitbulls and pit mixes.

Pit bulls are inherently stronger with a jaw that locks on. It makes them so dangerous and while other dogs can also bite, like a golden retriever or a Chihuahua, they don’t have the jaw strength that a pitbull does and doesn’t make them as dangerous.

Their. Jaws. Do. Not. Lock.

Seriously.

This is so easy to debunk if you try, even just a little. They don't have the strongest bite force, their jaws do not lock, they're far from the only breed trained to grab and hold...

You do your own point no service when you trot out these tropes.

Do you prefer if I say ‘they clamp down really really really really hard and it’s really really really hard to open them back up’?