Signing Day-- ECNL to College Womens Soccer

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Anonymous wrote:I am sure they are all still populating in, but for VDA

Dayton
ODU
Syracuse
Princeton
Northern Arizona
Wake
JMU x2
Radford x2
Xavier
Boston Univ
Clemson
Seton Hall
George Mason
UNC-Charlotte
Pitt
St. Joseph
Stanford
MIT
VA Tech
Fairfield
Wheaton (MA)
Towson
Auburn

Again, like with Arlington, Union, Bethesda, and all others to follow, we have to compartmentalize that some are recruited for being student athletes and others for athlete students

How many of these players will get any playing time next year?

Who knows? And it depends on things that have not happened yet like how thye come into camp. But why is this a point for you?

It’s a point because people here are making way too much out of which players from which clubs are going to which colleges. It will matter so little in 2 years. Most of the players will either never see the field or quit altogether before they finish college. Even the ones who do play will be done with soccer once they graduate. It’s like making a big deal about which team a player’s on at U10. After a few years no one cares anymore including the player. Why does anything except the academic credentials matter for where someone goes to college?

Because for some parents, they want to say, "My son/daughter goes to Duke" irrespective of how the child was admitted and whether it is a good fit academically for them. There are people who can't stomach the thought of their child being a student at Mason or ODU and having people in their social circle know it.

It's very similar to the relatively recent college entrance scandal. There were parents who "needed" to say their daughter went to USC, as opposed to somewhere like Fresno State or CSU LA.

Keep telling yourself that you’d pick ODU over Duke even if your kid wasn’t academically prepared for Duke… 😂 Kids coming out of Duke no matter how they do academically are gonna be better off career wise than kids coming out of ODU. No one is choosing ODU over Duke if they can help it.

Of course anyone would choose Duke over ODU. Assuming they could afford it. But that’s not the point. The point is that anyone that gets accepted to Duke to play soccer is either 1) a regular youth national team player with legit pro talent (a true unicorn not any of your daughters) or 2) an academic star (top of class, perfect SAT) who would have had a shot to get into Duke without soccer

Right, and these are people on th3 Duke wom3ns soccer team who are not #1 above. At all. So how did they make the team?

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

Why is this person/people having such a hard time with the fact that wealthy people with influence can get what they want for their kids? This isn't that difficult to grasp. It is happening, it has happened and will happen every year...especially around the DMV. The kids are all good kids I'm sure, they are probably great students...simply can't play soccer at these schools, so it pisses everyone off when they rub it in everyone's face rather than showing some humility. It's also insulting to the girls who get recruited to play soccer at these schools that earn it and chuckle when they see these players announce their POSER soccer commitments. It also rubs salt in the wounds of all the people that have daughters that are way better players than these kids and simply can't get recruited to any of the schools they want. Again, if the kids don't care that they won't play a meaningful minute in 4 years if they can stay on the roster as practice players then I guess it's a win for them. So, keep it to yourself and enjoy the next legacy of Duke, UVA etc.

I guess why do you think the fix is in on this? It is not. You do not makle a sports team in 2024 by paying money (donations) even if you once did. Thgis was shut down as a bad look by the colleges. they will let you get in by a large donation just not on a sports team. Coaches are not taking them for the bottom of the roster. It would take over $1 million for someone to get a kid in Duke. Are you saying that parents are paying $1 million to get on the soccer team? Not happening.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I am sure they are all still populating in, but for VDA

Dayton
ODU
Syracuse
Princeton
Northern Arizona
Wake
JMU x2
Radford x2
Xavier
Boston Univ
Clemson
Seton Hall
George Mason
UNC-Charlotte
Pitt
St. Joseph
Stanford
MIT
VA Tech
Fairfield
Wheaton (MA)
Towson
Auburn

Again, like with Arlington, Union, Bethesda, and all others to follow, we have to compartmentalize that some are recruited for being student athletes and others for athlete students

How many of these players will get any playing time next year?

How many will be on a team in 2 years?

I would think almost all. Many are D3 -- they are not leaving. And many others are there for the school not the soccer. You are not leaving an Ivy or Vandy even if soccer is not working out.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am sure they are all still populating in, but for VDA

Dayton
ODU
Syracuse
Princeton
Northern Arizona
Wake
JMU x2
Radford x2
Xavier
Boston Univ
Clemson
Seton Hall
George Mason
UNC-Charlotte
Pitt
St. Joseph
Stanford
MIT
VA Tech
Fairfield
Wheaton (MA)
Towson
Auburn

Again, like with Arlington, Union, Bethesda, and all others to follow, we have to compartmentalize that some are recruited for being student athletes and others for athlete students

How many of these players will get any playing time next year?

How many will be on a team in 2 years?

I would think almost all. Many are D3 -- they are not leaving. And many others are there for the school not the soccer. You are not leaving an Ivy or Vandy even if soccer is not working out.

You don't have to leave. If you are a student in good standing you may stay. You simply may not be playing a sport under scholarship for the university anymore. It isn't unheard of for student athletes to quit their sport and still be a student who pays their own way or qualifies for academic scholarships, etc.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am sure they are all still populating in, but for VDA

Dayton
ODU
Syracuse
Princeton
Northern Arizona
Wake
JMU x2
Radford x2
Xavier
Boston Univ
Clemson
Seton Hall
George Mason
UNC-Charlotte
Pitt
St. Joseph
Stanford
MIT
VA Tech
Fairfield
Wheaton (MA)
Towson
Auburn

Again, like with Arlington, Union, Bethesda, and all others to follow, we have to compartmentalize that some are recruited for being student athletes and others for athlete students

How many of these players will get any playing time next year?

How many will be on a team in 2 years?

I would think almost all. Many are D3 -- they are not leaving. And many others are there for the school not the soccer. You are not leaving an Ivy or Vandy even if soccer is not working out.

They won’t leave the school. just the soccer team. It’s more common than you think

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am sure they are all still populating in, but for VDA

Dayton
ODU
Syracuse
Princeton
Northern Arizona
Wake
JMU x2
Radford x2
Xavier
Boston Univ
Clemson
Seton Hall
George Mason
UNC-Charlotte
Pitt
St. Joseph
Stanford
MIT
VA Tech
Fairfield
Wheaton (MA)
Towson
Auburn

Again, like with Arlington, Union, Bethesda, and all others to follow, we have to compartmentalize that some are recruited for being student athletes and others for athlete students

How many of these players will get any playing time next year?

How many will be on a team in 2 years?

I would think almost all. Many are D3 -- they are not leaving. And many others are there for the school not the soccer. You are not leaving an Ivy or Vandy even if soccer is not working out.

They won’t leave the school. just the soccer team. It’s more common than you think

What?? Many of those schools are NOT D3. Some but not many.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am sure they are all still populating in, but for VDA

Dayton
ODU
Syracuse
Princeton
Northern Arizona
Wake
JMU x2
Radford x2
Xavier
Boston Univ
Clemson
Seton Hall
George Mason
UNC-Charlotte
Pitt
St. Joseph
Stanford
MIT
VA Tech
Fairfield
Wheaton (MA)
Towson
Auburn

Again, like with Arlington, Union, Bethesda, and all others to follow, we have to compartmentalize that some are recruited for being student athletes and others for athlete students

How many of these players will get any playing time next year?

Who knows? And it depends on things that have not happened yet like how thye come into camp. But why is this a point for you?

It’s a point because people here are making way too much out of which players from which clubs are going to which colleges. It will matter so little in 2 years. Most of the players will either never see the field or quit altogether before they finish college. Even the ones who do play will be done with soccer once they graduate. It’s like making a big deal about which team a player’s on at U10. After a few years no one cares anymore including the player. Why does anything except the academic credentials matter for where someone goes to college?

Because for some parents, they want to say, "My son/daughter goes to Duke" irrespective of how the child was admitted and whether it is a good fit academically for them. There are people who can't stomach the thought of their child being a student at Mason or ODU and having people in their social circle know it.

It's very similar to the relatively recent college entrance scandal. There were parents who "needed" to say their daughter went to USC, as opposed to somewhere like Fresno State or CSU LA.

Keep telling yourself that you’d pick ODU over Duke even if your kid wasn’t academically prepared for Duke… 😂 Kids coming out of Duke no matter how they do academically are gonna be better off career wise than kids coming out of ODU. No one is choosing ODU over Duke if they can help it.

Of course anyone would choose Duke over ODU. Assuming they could afford it. But that’s not the point. The point is that anyone that gets accepted to Duke to play soccer is either 1) a regular youth national team player with legit pro talent (a true unicorn not any of your daughters) or 2) an academic star (top of class, perfect SAT) who would have had a shot to get into Duke without soccer

Right, and these are people on th3 Duke wom3ns soccer team who are not #1 above. At all. So how did they make the team?

They made the team because there aren’t enough #1’s to fill the team, so they need to fill a roster by choosing among the kids with the academic credentials to get accepted into Duke, who also play soccer, and are willing to pay full tuition.

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Anonymous wrote:The Arlington kids seem to go to high academic schools - many are in top private high schools like Sidwell and GDS. Don’t be fooled and think your kid can go to some of those schools from a public high school. They are student athletes for sure. And one of the VDA kids going to an Ivy League school goes to TJ. Academics probably mattered more than soccer. This isn’t an insult — good for these girls!

Ivy league schools don't do athletic scholarships, so if a student is getting into an Ivy it's all academics

That’s not quite the way it works. Coaches can help a certain number of players. The academics have to be good but the help is significant.

Agree. No athletic $$, but athletics can get you admitted when you otherwise wouldn't be.

Most of the schools on the list you would hope the player can get in without soccer. It is harder getting on the team vs getting in the college.

Did you look at those lists? Many of the schools on that list would be a lottery pick if you had top grades and scores.

UPenn
Vanderbilt
Davidson
Carnegie Mellon
Emory
Princeton
Stanford
MIT

echo this. You look at this list and last year’s, a big chunk of the schools are sub 10% acceptance rate. Even your best student around here would be rolling the dice to get in, without legacy or other ++.

And to the weirdo who says you can get your kid onto the team with a large donation- have you seen the endowments at most of these schools? Not happening.

A donation within the means of people in this area will not get your kid on any team at a decent school. People here are rich but not with an extra million to throw away.

Grab a clue. Families in the DMV are donating LARGE amounts of money to get their kids on the end of rosters. 2 of them signed last week at top 20 schools. People are just afraid to call them out...and when they go to social media and blast it in everyone's face it just shows you the arrogance.

This is not happening. You may think that but it is not. This is not the way college sports work after Varsity Blues. You may think that it does but no it does not.

Nonsense. Varsity Blues was the side door for kids that hardly played the sport.
This is the front door and it’s always been open.

Exactly. Very different than Varsity Blues. No bribes. Just a promise for one of the last roster spots for the DD of a large donor. DD would definitely need.to be a very decent soccer player, just not someone who would get a roster spot on one of the top 20 D1 soccer programs without Daddy's help. If anyone thinks this doesn't happen they're just clueless.

Not clueless. Just not going on. Yes different than varsity blues but after carsity blues all of the schools tightened this up. It does not happen. But keep thinking it does.

We all know who you are. You bought your daughter a roster spot.

There is a local family that did it with both daughters and blast it on social media everyday with pride. It's their world and we are just living in it. Both kids are D3 talent.

Truth.

Also known as something that didnt happen.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am sure they are all still populating in, but for VDA

Dayton
ODU
Syracuse
Princeton
Northern Arizona
Wake
JMU x2
Radford x2
Xavier
Boston Univ
Clemson
Seton Hall
George Mason
UNC-Charlotte
Pitt
St. Joseph
Stanford
MIT
VA Tech
Fairfield
Wheaton (MA)
Towson
Auburn

Again, like with Arlington, Union, Bethesda, and all others to follow, we have to compartmentalize that some are recruited for being student athletes and others for athlete students

How many of these players will get any playing time next year?

Who knows? And it depends on things that have not happened yet like how thye come into camp. But why is this a point for you?

It’s a point because people here are making way too much out of which players from which clubs are going to which colleges. It will matter so little in 2 years. Most of the players will either never see the field or quit altogether before they finish college. Even the ones who do play will be done with soccer once they graduate. It’s like making a big deal about which team a player’s on at U10. After a few years no one cares anymore including the player. Why does anything except the academic credentials matter for where someone goes to college?

Because for some parents, they want to say, "My son/daughter goes to Duke" irrespective of how the child was admitted and whether it is a good fit academically for them. There are people who can't stomach the thought of their child being a student at Mason or ODU and having people in their social circle know it.

It's very similar to the relatively recent college entrance scandal. There were parents who "needed" to say their daughter went to USC, as opposed to somewhere like Fresno State or CSU LA.

Keep telling yourself that you’d pick ODU over Duke even if your kid wasn’t academically prepared for Duke… 😂 Kids coming out of Duke no matter how they do academically are gonna be better off career wise than kids coming out of ODU. No one is choosing ODU over Duke if they can help it.

Of course anyone would choose Duke over ODU. Assuming they could afford it. But that’s not the point. The point is that anyone that gets accepted to Duke to play soccer is either 1) a regular youth national team player with legit pro talent (a true unicorn not any of your daughters) or 2) an academic star (top of class, perfect SAT) who would have had a shot to get into Duke without soccer

Right, and these are people on th3 Duke wom3ns soccer team who are not #1 above. At all. So how did they make the team?

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

Why is this person/people having such a hard time with the fact that wealthy people with influence can get what they want for their kids? This isn't that difficult to grasp. It is happening, it has happened and will happen every year...especially around the DMV. The kids are all good kids I'm sure, they are probably great students...simply can't play soccer at these schools, so it pisses everyone off when they rub it in everyone's face rather than showing some humility. It's also insulting to the girls who get recruited to play soccer at these schools that earn it and chuckle when they see these players announce their POSER soccer commitments. It also rubs salt in the wounds of all the people that have daughters that are way better players than these kids and simply can't get recruited to any of the schools they want. Again, if the kids don't care that they won't play a meaningful minute in 4 years if they can stay on the roster as practice players then I guess it's a win for them. So, keep it to yourself and enjoy the next legacy of Duke, UVA etc.

I guess why do you think the fix is in on this? It is not. You do not makle a sports team in 2024 by paying money (donations) even if you once did. Thgis was shut down as a bad look by the colleges. they will let you get in by a large donation just not on a sports team. Coaches are not taking them for the bottom of the roster. It would take over $1 million for someone to get a kid in Duke. Are you saying that parents are paying $1 million to get on the soccer team? Not happening.

You are certainly naive. Of course this happens.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am sure they are all still populating in, but for VDA

Dayton
ODU
Syracuse
Princeton
Northern Arizona
Wake
JMU x2
Radford x2
Xavier
Boston Univ
Clemson
Seton Hall
George Mason
UNC-Charlotte
Pitt
St. Joseph
Stanford
MIT
VA Tech
Fairfield
Wheaton (MA)
Towson
Auburn

Again, like with Arlington, Union, Bethesda, and all others to follow, we have to compartmentalize that some are recruited for being student athletes and others for athlete students

How many of these players will get any playing time next year?

Who knows? And it depends on things that have not happened yet like how thye come into camp. But why is this a point for you?

It’s a point because people here are making way too much out of which players from which clubs are going to which colleges. It will matter so little in 2 years. Most of the players will either never see the field or quit altogether before they finish college. Even the ones who do play will be done with soccer once they graduate. It’s like making a big deal about which team a player’s on at U10. After a few years no one cares anymore including the player. Why does anything except the academic credentials matter for where someone goes to college?

Because for some parents, they want to say, "My son/daughter goes to Duke" irrespective of how the child was admitted and whether it is a good fit academically for them. There are people who can't stomach the thought of their child being a student at Mason or ODU and having people in their social circle know it.

It's very similar to the relatively recent college entrance scandal. There were parents who "needed" to say their daughter went to USC, as opposed to somewhere like Fresno State or CSU LA.

Keep telling yourself that you’d pick ODU over Duke even if your kid wasn’t academically prepared for Duke… 😂 Kids coming out of Duke no matter how they do academically are gonna be better off career wise than kids coming out of ODU. No one is choosing ODU over Duke if they can help it.

Of course anyone would choose Duke over ODU. Assuming they could afford it. But that’s not the point. The point is that anyone that gets accepted to Duke to play soccer is either 1) a regular youth national team player with legit pro talent (a true unicorn not any of your daughters) or 2) an academic star (top of class, perfect SAT) who would have had a shot to get into Duke without soccer

Right, and these are people on th3 Duke wom3ns soccer team who are not #1 above. At all. So how did they make the team?

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

Why is this person/people having such a hard time with the fact that wealthy people with influence can get what they want for their kids? This isn't that difficult to grasp. It is happening, it has happened and will happen every year...especially around the DMV. The kids are all good kids I'm sure, they are probably great students...simply can't play soccer at these schools, so it pisses everyone off when they rub it in everyone's face rather than showing some humility. It's also insulting to the girls who get recruited to play soccer at these schools that earn it and chuckle when they see these players announce their POSER soccer commitments. It also rubs salt in the wounds of all the people that have daughters that are way better players than these kids and simply can't get recruited to any of the schools they want. Again, if the kids don't care that they won't play a meaningful minute in 4 years if they can stay on the roster as practice players then I guess it's a win for them. So, keep it to yourself and enjoy the next legacy of Duke, UVA etc.

I guess why do you think the fix is in on this? It is not. You do not makle a sports team in 2024 by paying money (donations) even if you once did. Thgis was shut down as a bad look by the colleges. they will let you get in by a large donation just not on a sports team. Coaches are not taking them for the bottom of the roster. It would take over $1 million for someone to get a kid in Duke. Are you saying that parents are paying $1 million to get on the soccer team? Not happening.

You are certainly naive. Of course this happens.

Why do you think that? How do you know? That someone told you is not evidence that it happened.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I am sure they are all still populating in, but for VDA

Dayton
ODU
Syracuse
Princeton
Northern Arizona
Wake
JMU x2
Radford x2
Xavier
Boston Univ
Clemson
Seton Hall
George Mason
UNC-Charlotte
Pitt
St. Joseph
Stanford
MIT
VA Tech
Fairfield
Wheaton (MA)
Towson
Auburn

Again, like with Arlington, Union, Bethesda, and all others to follow, we have to compartmentalize that some are recruited for being student athletes and others for athlete students

How many of these players will get any playing time next year?

Who knows? And it depends on things that have not happened yet like how thye come into camp. But why is this a point for you?

It’s a point because people here are making way too much out of which players from which clubs are going to which colleges. It will matter so little in 2 years. Most of the players will either never see the field or quit altogether before they finish college. Even the ones who do play will be done with soccer once they graduate. It’s like making a big deal about which team a player’s on at U10. After a few years no one cares anymore including the player. Why does anything except the academic credentials matter for where someone goes to college?

Because for some parents, they want to say, "My son/daughter goes to Duke" irrespective of how the child was admitted and whether it is a good fit academically for them. There are people who can't stomach the thought of their child being a student at Mason or ODU and having people in their social circle know it.

It's very similar to the relatively recent college entrance scandal. There were parents who "needed" to say their daughter went to USC, as opposed to somewhere like Fresno State or CSU LA.

Keep telling yourself that you’d pick ODU over Duke even if your kid wasn’t academically prepared for Duke… 😂 Kids coming out of Duke no matter how they do academically are gonna be better off career wise than kids coming out of ODU. No one is choosing ODU over Duke if they can help it.

Of course anyone would choose Duke over ODU. Assuming they could afford it. But that’s not the point. The point is that anyone that gets accepted to Duke to play soccer is either 1) a regular youth national team player with legit pro talent (a true unicorn not any of your daughters) or 2) an academic star (top of class, perfect SAT) who would have had a shot to get into Duke without soccer

Right, and these are people on th3 Duke wom3ns soccer team who are not #1 above. At all. So how did they make the team?

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

Why is this person/people having such a hard time with the fact that wealthy people with influence can get what they want for their kids? This isn't that difficult to grasp. It is happening, it has happened and will happen every year...especially around the DMV. The kids are all good kids I'm sure, they are probably great students...simply can't play soccer at these schools, so it pisses everyone off when they rub it in everyone's face rather than showing some humility. It's also insulting to the girls who get recruited to play soccer at these schools that earn it and chuckle when they see these players announce their POSER soccer commitments. It also rubs salt in the wounds of all the people that have daughters that are way better players than these kids and simply can't get recruited to any of the schools they want. Again, if the kids don't care that they won't play a meaningful minute in 4 years if they can stay on the roster as practice players then I guess it's a win for them. So, keep it to yourself and enjoy the next legacy of Duke, UVA etc.

I guess why do you think the fix is in on this? It is not. You do not makle a sports team in 2024 by paying money (donations) even if you once did. Thgis was shut down as a bad look by the colleges. they will let you get in by a large donation just not on a sports team. Coaches are not taking them for the bottom of the roster. It would take over $1 million for someone to get a kid in Duke. Are you saying that parents are paying $1 million to get on the soccer team? Not happening.

You are certainly naive. Of course this happens.

just because a family is wealthy and their kids get great spots on Duke roster - does not mean something criminal has happened. You are so bitter.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I am sure they are all still populating in, but for VDA

Dayton
ODU
Syracuse
Princeton
Northern Arizona
Wake
JMU x2
Radford x2
Xavier
Boston Univ
Clemson
Seton Hall
George Mason
UNC-Charlotte
Pitt
St. Joseph
Stanford
MIT
VA Tech
Fairfield
Wheaton (MA)
Towson
Auburn

Again, like with Arlington, Union, Bethesda, and all others to follow, we have to compartmentalize that some are recruited for being student athletes and others for athlete students

How many of these players will get any playing time next year?

Who knows? And it depends on things that have not happened yet like how thye come into camp. But why is this a point for you?

It’s a point because people here are making way too much out of which players from which clubs are going to which colleges. It will matter so little in 2 years. Most of the players will either never see the field or quit altogether before they finish college. Even the ones who do play will be done with soccer once they graduate. It’s like making a big deal about which team a player’s on at U10. After a few years no one cares anymore including the player. Why does anything except the academic credentials matter for where someone goes to college?

Because for some parents, they want to say, "My son/daughter goes to Duke" irrespective of how the child was admitted and whether it is a good fit academically for them. There are people who can't stomach the thought of their child being a student at Mason or ODU and having people in their social circle know it.

It's very similar to the relatively recent college entrance scandal. There were parents who "needed" to say their daughter went to USC, as opposed to somewhere like Fresno State or CSU LA.

Keep telling yourself that you’d pick ODU over Duke even if your kid wasn’t academically prepared for Duke… 😂 Kids coming out of Duke no matter how they do academically are gonna be better off career wise than kids coming out of ODU. No one is choosing ODU over Duke if they can help it.

Of course anyone would choose Duke over ODU. Assuming they could afford it. But that’s not the point. The point is that anyone that gets accepted to Duke to play soccer is either 1) a regular youth national team player with legit pro talent (a true unicorn not any of your daughters) or 2) an academic star (top of class, perfect SAT) who would have had a shot to get into Duke without soccer

Right, and these are people on th3 Duke wom3ns soccer team who are not #1 above. At all. So how did they make the team?

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

Why is this person/people having such a hard time with the fact that wealthy people with influence can get what they want for their kids? This isn't that difficult to grasp. It is happening, it has happened and will happen every year...especially around the DMV. The kids are all good kids I'm sure, they are probably great students...simply can't play soccer at these schools, so it pisses everyone off when they rub it in everyone's face rather than showing some humility. It's also insulting to the girls who get recruited to play soccer at these schools that earn it and chuckle when they see these players announce their POSER soccer commitments. It also rubs salt in the wounds of all the people that have daughters that are way better players than these kids and simply can't get recruited to any of the schools they want. Again, if the kids don't care that they won't play a meaningful minute in 4 years if they can stay on the roster as practice players then I guess it's a win for them. So, keep it to yourself and enjoy the next legacy of Duke, UVA etc.

I guess why do you think the fix is in on this? It is not. You do not makle a sports team in 2024 by paying money (donations) even if you once did. Thgis was shut down as a bad look by the colleges. they will let you get in by a large donation just not on a sports team. Coaches are not taking them for the bottom of the roster. It would take over $1 million for someone to get a kid in Duke. Are you saying that parents are paying $1 million to get on the soccer team? Not happening.

You are certainly naive. Of course this happens.

just because a family is wealthy and their kids get great spots on Duke roster - does not mean something criminal has happened. You are so bitter.

Not bitter. My kid is heading to a great school. Doesn't mean the other thing didn't happen. It did. Your refusal to believe doesn't make it any less true.

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Anonymous wrote:I am sure they are all still populating in, but for VDA

Dayton
ODU
Syracuse
Princeton
Northern Arizona
Wake
JMU x2
Radford x2
Xavier
Boston Univ
Clemson
Seton Hall
George Mason
UNC-Charlotte
Pitt
St. Joseph
Stanford
MIT
VA Tech
Fairfield
Wheaton (MA)
Towson
Auburn

Again, like with Arlington, Union, Bethesda, and all others to follow, we have to compartmentalize that some are recruited for being student athletes and others for athlete students

How many of these players will get any playing time next year?

Who knows? And it depends on things that have not happened yet like how thye come into camp. But why is this a point for you?

It’s a point because people here are making way too much out of which players from which clubs are going to which colleges. It will matter so little in 2 years. Most of the players will either never see the field or quit altogether before they finish college. Even the ones who do play will be done with soccer once they graduate. It’s like making a big deal about which team a player’s on at U10. After a few years no one cares anymore including the player. Why does anything except the academic credentials matter for where someone goes to college?

Because for some parents, they want to say, "My son/daughter goes to Duke" irrespective of how the child was admitted and whether it is a good fit academically for them. There are people who can't stomach the thought of their child being a student at Mason or ODU and having people in their social circle know it.

It's very similar to the relatively recent college entrance scandal. There were parents who "needed" to say their daughter went to USC, as opposed to somewhere like Fresno State or CSU LA.

Keep telling yourself that you’d pick ODU over Duke even if your kid wasn’t academically prepared for Duke… 😂 Kids coming out of Duke no matter how they do academically are gonna be better off career wise than kids coming out of ODU. No one is choosing ODU over Duke if they can help it.

Of course anyone would choose Duke over ODU. Assuming they could afford it. But that’s not the point. The point is that anyone that gets accepted to Duke to play soccer is either 1) a regular youth national team player with legit pro talent (a true unicorn not any of your daughters) or 2) an academic star (top of class, perfect SAT) who would have had a shot to get into Duke without soccer

Right, and these are people on th3 Duke wom3ns soccer team who are not #1 above. At all. So how did they make the team?

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

Why is this person/people having such a hard time with the fact that wealthy people with influence can get what they want for their kids? This isn't that difficult to grasp. It is happening, it has happened and will happen every year...especially around the DMV. The kids are all good kids I'm sure, they are probably great students...simply can't play soccer at these schools, so it pisses everyone off when they rub it in everyone's face rather than showing some humility. It's also insulting to the girls who get recruited to play soccer at these schools that earn it and chuckle when they see these players announce their POSER soccer commitments. It also rubs salt in the wounds of all the people that have daughters that are way better players than these kids and simply can't get recruited to any of the schools they want. Again, if the kids don't care that they won't play a meaningful minute in 4 years if they can stay on the roster as practice players then I guess it's a win for them. So, keep it to yourself and enjoy the next legacy of Duke, UVA etc.

I guess why do you think the fix is in on this? It is not. You do not makle a sports team in 2024 by paying money (donations) even if you once did. Thgis was shut down as a bad look by the colleges. they will let you get in by a large donation just not on a sports team. Coaches are not taking them for the bottom of the roster. It would take over $1 million for someone to get a kid in Duke. Are you saying that parents are paying $1 million to get on the soccer team? Not happening.

You are certainly naive. Of course this happens.

just because a family is wealthy and their kids get great spots on Duke roster - does not mean something criminal has happened. You are so bitter.

Not bitter. My kid is heading to a great school. Doesn't mean the other thing didn't happen. It did. Your refusal to believe doesn't make it any less true.

Did the family give you access to their bank account? Lot's of Duke coaches driving new cars? Come on. We don't believe you. You can believe what you want but you sound crazy.

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Anonymous wrote:I am sure they are all still populating in, but for VDA

Dayton
ODU
Syracuse
Princeton
Northern Arizona
Wake
JMU x2
Radford x2
Xavier
Boston Univ
Clemson
Seton Hall
George Mason
UNC-Charlotte
Pitt
St. Joseph
Stanford
MIT
VA Tech
Fairfield
Wheaton (MA)
Towson
Auburn

Again, like with Arlington, Union, Bethesda, and all others to follow, we have to compartmentalize that some are recruited for being student athletes and others for athlete students

How many of these players will get any playing time next year?

Who knows? And it depends on things that have not happened yet like how thye come into camp. But why is this a point for you?

It’s a point because people here are making way too much out of which players from which clubs are going to which colleges. It will matter so little in 2 years. Most of the players will either never see the field or quit altogether before they finish college. Even the ones who do play will be done with soccer once they graduate. It’s like making a big deal about which team a player’s on at U10. After a few years no one cares anymore including the player. Why does anything except the academic credentials matter for where someone goes to college?

Because for some parents, they want to say, "My son/daughter goes to Duke" irrespective of how the child was admitted and whether it is a good fit academically for them. There are people who can't stomach the thought of their child being a student at Mason or ODU and having people in their social circle know it.

It's very similar to the relatively recent college entrance scandal. There were parents who "needed" to say their daughter went to USC, as opposed to somewhere like Fresno State or CSU LA.

Keep telling yourself that you’d pick ODU over Duke even if your kid wasn’t academically prepared for Duke… 😂 Kids coming out of Duke no matter how they do academically are gonna be better off career wise than kids coming out of ODU. No one is choosing ODU over Duke if they can help it.

Of course anyone would choose Duke over ODU. Assuming they could afford it. But that’s not the point. The point is that anyone that gets accepted to Duke to play soccer is either 1) a regular youth national team player with legit pro talent (a true unicorn not any of your daughters) or 2) an academic star (top of class, perfect SAT) who would have had a shot to get into Duke without soccer

Right, and these are people on th3 Duke wom3ns soccer team who are not #1 above. At all. So how did they make the team?

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

Why is this person/people having such a hard time with the fact that wealthy people with influence can get what they want for their kids? This isn't that difficult to grasp. It is happening, it has happened and will happen every year...especially around the DMV. The kids are all good kids I'm sure, they are probably great students...simply can't play soccer at these schools, so it pisses everyone off when they rub it in everyone's face rather than showing some humility. It's also insulting to the girls who get recruited to play soccer at these schools that earn it and chuckle when they see these players announce their POSER soccer commitments. It also rubs salt in the wounds of all the people that have daughters that are way better players than these kids and simply can't get recruited to any of the schools they want. Again, if the kids don't care that they won't play a meaningful minute in 4 years if they can stay on the roster as practice players then I guess it's a win for them. So, keep it to yourself and enjoy the next legacy of Duke, UVA etc.

I guess why do you think the fix is in on this? It is not. You do not makle a sports team in 2024 by paying money (donations) even if you once did. Thgis was shut down as a bad look by the colleges. they will let you get in by a large donation just not on a sports team. Coaches are not taking them for the bottom of the roster. It would take over $1 million for someone to get a kid in Duke. Are you saying that parents are paying $1 million to get on the soccer team? Not happening.

You are certainly naive. Of course this happens.

just because a family is wealthy and their kids get great spots on Duke roster - does not mean something criminal has happened. You are so bitter.

Not bitter. My kid is heading to a great school. Doesn't mean the other thing didn't happen. It did. Your refusal to believe doesn't make it any less true.

Did the family give you access to their bank account? Lot's of Duke coaches driving new cars? Come on. We don't believe you. You can believe what you want but you sound crazy.

Yes. And Yes. C'mon get serious. If you don't believe it, that's fine. I'm done trying to convince you.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am sure they are all still populating in, but for VDA

Dayton
ODU
Syracuse
Princeton
Northern Arizona
Wake
JMU x2
Radford x2
Xavier
Boston Univ
Clemson
Seton Hall
George Mason
UNC-Charlotte
Pitt
St. Joseph
Stanford
MIT
VA Tech
Fairfield
Wheaton (MA)
Towson
Auburn

Again, like with Arlington, Union, Bethesda, and all others to follow, we have to compartmentalize that some are recruited for being student athletes and others for athlete students

How many of these players will get any playing time next year?

Who knows? And it depends on things that have not happened yet like how thye come into camp. But why is this a point for you?

It’s a point because people here are making way too much out of which players from which clubs are going to which colleges. It will matter so little in 2 years. Most of the players will either never see the field or quit altogether before they finish college. Even the ones who do play will be done with soccer once they graduate. It’s like making a big deal about which team a player’s on at U10. After a few years no one cares anymore including the player. Why does anything except the academic credentials matter for where someone goes to college?

Because for some parents, they want to say, "My son/daughter goes to Duke" irrespective of how the child was admitted and whether it is a good fit academically for them. There are people who can't stomach the thought of their child being a student at Mason or ODU and having people in their social circle know it.

It's very similar to the relatively recent college entrance scandal. There were parents who "needed" to say their daughter went to USC, as opposed to somewhere like Fresno State or CSU LA.

Keep telling yourself that you’d pick ODU over Duke even if your kid wasn’t academically prepared for Duke… 😂 Kids coming out of Duke no matter how they do academically are gonna be better off career wise than kids coming out of ODU. No one is choosing ODU over Duke if they can help it.

Of course anyone would choose Duke over ODU. Assuming they could afford it. But that’s not the point. The point is that anyone that gets accepted to Duke to play soccer is either 1) a regular youth national team player with legit pro talent (a true unicorn not any of your daughters) or 2) an academic star (top of class, perfect SAT) who would have had a shot to get into Duke without soccer

Right, and these are people on th3 Duke wom3ns soccer team who are not #1 above. At all. So how did they make the team?

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

Why is this person/people having such a hard time with the fact that wealthy people with influence can get what they want for their kids? This isn't that difficult to grasp. It is happening, it has happened and will happen every year...especially around the DMV. The kids are all good kids I'm sure, they are probably great students...simply can't play soccer at these schools, so it pisses everyone off when they rub it in everyone's face rather than showing some humility. It's also insulting to the girls who get recruited to play soccer at these schools that earn it and chuckle when they see these players announce their POSER soccer commitments. It also rubs salt in the wounds of all the people that have daughters that are way better players than these kids and simply can't get recruited to any of the schools they want. Again, if the kids don't care that they won't play a meaningful minute in 4 years if they can stay on the roster as practice players then I guess it's a win for them. So, keep it to yourself and enjoy the next legacy of Duke, UVA etc.

I guess why do you think the fix is in on this? It is not. You do not makle a sports team in 2024 by paying money (donations) even if you once did. Thgis was shut down as a bad look by the colleges. they will let you get in by a large donation just not on a sports team. Coaches are not taking them for the bottom of the roster. It would take over $1 million for someone to get a kid in Duke. Are you saying that parents are paying $1 million to get on the soccer team? Not happening.

You are certainly naive. Of course this happens.

just because a family is wealthy and their kids get great spots on Duke roster - does not mean something criminal has happened. You are so bitter.

Not bitter. My kid is heading to a great school. Doesn't mean the other thing didn't happen. It did. Your refusal to believe doesn't make it any less true.

Did the family give you access to their bank account? Lot's of Duke coaches driving new cars? Come on. We don't believe you. You can believe what you want but you sound crazy.

Yes. And Yes. C'mon get serious. If you don't believe it, that's fine. I'm done trying to convince you.

Also the earth is flat.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am sure they are all still populating in, but for VDA

Dayton
ODU
Syracuse
Princeton
Northern Arizona
Wake
JMU x2
Radford x2
Xavier
Boston Univ
Clemson
Seton Hall
George Mason
UNC-Charlotte
Pitt
St. Joseph
Stanford
MIT
VA Tech
Fairfield
Wheaton (MA)
Towson
Auburn

Again, like with Arlington, Union, Bethesda, and all others to follow, we have to compartmentalize that some are recruited for being student athletes and others for athlete students

How many of these players will get any playing time next year?

Who knows? And it depends on things that have not happened yet like how thye come into camp. But why is this a point for you?

It’s a point because people here are making way too much out of which players from which clubs are going to which colleges. It will matter so little in 2 years. Most of the players will either never see the field or quit altogether before they finish college. Even the ones who do play will be done with soccer once they graduate. It’s like making a big deal about which team a player’s on at U10. After a few years no one cares anymore including the player. Why does anything except the academic credentials matter for where someone goes to college?

Because for some parents, they want to say, "My son/daughter goes to Duke" irrespective of how the child was admitted and whether it is a good fit academically for them. There are people who can't stomach the thought of their child being a student at Mason or ODU and having people in their social circle know it.

It's very similar to the relatively recent college entrance scandal. There were parents who "needed" to say their daughter went to USC, as opposed to somewhere like Fresno State or CSU LA.

Keep telling yourself that you’d pick ODU over Duke even if your kid wasn’t academically prepared for Duke… 😂 Kids coming out of Duke no matter how they do academically are gonna be better off career wise than kids coming out of ODU. No one is choosing ODU over Duke if they can help it.

Of course anyone would choose Duke over ODU. Assuming they could afford it. But that’s not the point. The point is that anyone that gets accepted to Duke to play soccer is either 1) a regular youth national team player with legit pro talent (a true unicorn not any of your daughters) or 2) an academic star (top of class, perfect SAT) who would have had a shot to get into Duke without soccer

Right, and these are people on th3 Duke wom3ns soccer team who are not #1 above. At all. So how did they make the team?

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

Why is this person/people having such a hard time with the fact that wealthy people with influence can get what they want for their kids? This isn't that difficult to grasp. It is happening, it has happened and will happen every year...especially around the DMV. The kids are all good kids I'm sure, they are probably great students...simply can't play soccer at these schools, so it pisses everyone off when they rub it in everyone's face rather than showing some humility. It's also insulting to the girls who get recruited to play soccer at these schools that earn it and chuckle when they see these players announce their POSER soccer commitments. It also rubs salt in the wounds of all the people that have daughters that are way better players than these kids and simply can't get recruited to any of the schools they want. Again, if the kids don't care that they won't play a meaningful minute in 4 years if they can stay on the roster as practice players then I guess it's a win for them. So, keep it to yourself and enjoy the next legacy of Duke, UVA etc.

I guess why do you think the fix is in on this? It is not. You do not makle a sports team in 2024 by paying money (donations) even if you once did. Thgis was shut down as a bad look by the colleges. they will let you get in by a large donation just not on a sports team. Coaches are not taking them for the bottom of the roster. It would take over $1 million for someone to get a kid in Duke. Are you saying that parents are paying $1 million to get on the soccer team? Not happening.

You are certainly naive. Of course this happens.

just because a family is wealthy and their kids get great spots on Duke roster - does not mean something criminal has happened. You are so bitter.

Not bitter. My kid is heading to a great school. Doesn't mean the other thing didn't happen. It did. Your refusal to believe doesn't make it any less true.

Did the family give you access to their bank account? Lot's of Duke coaches driving new cars? Come on. We don't believe you. You can believe what you want but you sound crazy.

Yes. And Yes. C'mon get serious. If you don't believe it, that's fine. I'm done trying to convince you.

Also the earth is flat.

My my do you believe in a lot of odd things. To each his own.