Signing Day-- ECNL to College Womens Soccer

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Anonymous wrote:What an odd series of posts.

College teams - D1 to D3 - do not keep players who cannot contribute on the field. They are bad influences. And, frankly, no one wants to stick around. Being on even a D3 team is a literal ton of work.

In season you do nothing but team requirements and classes. The only saving grace is that you get playing time - or if you are a freshman with someone ahead of you - you might get playing time. If you don’t make the travel roster that’s bad news.

The coach makes a determination pretty quick - certainly by the middle of freshman year. Yes/No. If “no”, they want any athletic money back for next year. You are a waste of money and time and they treat you like that. The nicer ones ignore you. It’s also obvious to the players. They ignore you too. Mind you, your teammates do not want you getting any of their playing time anyway so there is a bit of a hostile relationship always present.

And, being on a team screws up your academics. You are doomed to summer classes because you can only take a bare minimum of courses in season. By Junior year you are really struggling to schedule advanced courses with prerequisites that you can’t take in season. Many players quit who are on the edge of getting playing time at this point.

It’s not a surprise. Look at any college your kid is thinking about. Look at their current roster. Count the seniors. Now go back 4 years and count the freshmen. How many stayed? If it’s half - that’s good. How many of those long gone players came into the program thinking they were going to tear things up?

Let me update this with truth.
Team requirements can be fun. You would not be on the team if you didn't enjoy the sport. Your teammates are like family and you will enjoy being with them.

The coach does not make snap decisions. Most of the stars of today's teams were bench warmers in years 1-2.5. Look at the top ACC teams - the top scorers and goalies didn't see the field in the early years. It's just sports.

Being on a team helps your academics - you get extra time, tutors, early registration, etc etc etc. Even in D3 schools. You take classes over the summer because you have to be there anyway to train preseason and the schools pay for your classes. Even for walkons.

No coaches do make snap decision. You can tell if a player can play with in 5 minutes. The stars get playing time as freshman everyone else are roles players and bench warmers. They can be and do get replaced.

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Anonymous wrote:What an odd series of posts.

College teams - D1 to D3 - do not keep players who cannot contribute on the field. They are bad influences. And, frankly, no one wants to stick around. Being on even a D3 team is a literal ton of work.

In season you do nothing but team requirements and classes. The only saving grace is that you get playing time - or if you are a freshman with someone ahead of you - you might get playing time. If you don’t make the travel roster that’s bad news.

The coach makes a determination pretty quick - certainly by the middle of freshman year. Yes/No. If “no”, they want any athletic money back for next year. You are a waste of money and time and they treat you like that. The nicer ones ignore you. It’s also obvious to the players. They ignore you too. Mind you, your teammates do not want you getting any of their playing time anyway so there is a bit of a hostile relationship always present.

And, being on a team screws up your academics. You are doomed to summer classes because you can only take a bare minimum of courses in season. By Junior year you are really struggling to schedule advanced courses with prerequisites that you can’t take in season. Many players quit who are on the edge of getting playing time at this point.

It’s not a surprise. Look at any college your kid is thinking about. Look at their current roster. Count the seniors. Now go back 4 years and count the freshmen. How many stayed? If it’s half - that’s good. How many of those long gone players came into the program thinking they were going to tear things up?

Let me update this with truth.
Team requirements can be fun. You would not be on the team if you didn't enjoy the sport. Your teammates are like family and you will enjoy being with them.

The coach does not make snap decisions. Most of the stars of today's teams were bench warmers in years 1-2.5. Look at the top ACC teams - the top scorers and goalies didn't see the field in the early years. It's just sports.

Being on a team helps your academics - you get extra time, tutors, early registration, etc etc etc. Even in D3 schools. You take classes over the summer because you have to be there anyway to train preseason and the schools pay for your classes. Even for walkons.

I can't comment on every school but I have a friend who was a scholarship athlete at William and Mary (not soccer). He told me there was no "extra time." According to him, if he went to a professor and asked for extra time because they were traveling for an away game the answer was you are here for academics. Turn your assignment in before you leave for the trip.

This may have changed. It was at least 20+ years ago.

No…not even on D3. D3 athletes are students first, with very few addition resources to help balance the load…why? Because the athletic load is light years different.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What an odd series of posts.

College teams - D1 to D3 - do not keep players who cannot contribute on the field. They are bad influences. And, frankly, no one wants to stick around. Being on even a D3 team is a literal ton of work.

In season you do nothing but team requirements and classes. The only saving grace is that you get playing time - or if you are a freshman with someone ahead of you - you might get playing time. If you don’t make the travel roster that’s bad news.

The coach makes a determination pretty quick - certainly by the middle of freshman year. Yes/No. If “no”, they want any athletic money back for next year. You are a waste of money and time and they treat you like that. The nicer ones ignore you. It’s also obvious to the players. They ignore you too. Mind you, your teammates do not want you getting any of their playing time anyway so there is a bit of a hostile relationship always present.

And, being on a team screws up your academics. You are doomed to summer classes because you can only take a bare minimum of courses in season. By Junior year you are really struggling to schedule advanced courses with prerequisites that you can’t take in season. Many players quit who are on the edge of getting playing time at this point.

It’s not a surprise. Look at any college your kid is thinking about. Look at their current roster. Count the seniors. Now go back 4 years and count the freshmen. How many stayed? If it’s half - that’s good. How many of those long gone players came into the program thinking they were going to tear things up?

Let me update this with truth.
Team requirements can be fun. You would not be on the team if you didn't enjoy the sport. Your teammates are like family and you will enjoy being with them.

The coach does not make snap decisions. Most of the stars of today's teams were bench warmers in years 1-2.5. Look at the top ACC teams - the top scorers and goalies didn't see the field in the early years. It's just sports.

Being on a team helps your academics - you get extra time, tutors, early registration, etc etc etc. Even in D3 schools. You take classes over the summer because you have to be there anyway to train preseason and the schools pay for your classes. Even for walkons.

No coaches do make snap decision. You can tell if a player can play with in 5 minutes. The stars get playing time as freshman everyone else are roles players and bench warmers. They can be and do get replaced.

It's rare.

Just look at top player at UNC and Duke - those girls barely played in the early years. They stuck to it and now they are stars,

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What an odd series of posts.

College teams - D1 to D3 - do not keep players who cannot contribute on the field. They are bad influences. And, frankly, no one wants to stick around. Being on even a D3 team is a literal ton of work.

In season you do nothing but team requirements and classes. The only saving grace is that you get playing time - or if you are a freshman with someone ahead of you - you might get playing time. If you don’t make the travel roster that’s bad news.

The coach makes a determination pretty quick - certainly by the middle of freshman year. Yes/No. If “no”, they want any athletic money back for next year. You are a waste of money and time and they treat you like that. The nicer ones ignore you. It’s also obvious to the players. They ignore you too. Mind you, your teammates do not want you getting any of their playing time anyway so there is a bit of a hostile relationship always present.

And, being on a team screws up your academics. You are doomed to summer classes because you can only take a bare minimum of courses in season. By Junior year you are really struggling to schedule advanced courses with prerequisites that you can’t take in season. Many players quit who are on the edge of getting playing time at this point.

It’s not a surprise. Look at any college your kid is thinking about. Look at their current roster. Count the seniors. Now go back 4 years and count the freshmen. How many stayed? If it’s half - that’s good. How many of those long gone players came into the program thinking they were going to tear things up?

Let me update this with truth.
Team requirements can be fun. You would not be on the team if you didn't enjoy the sport. Your teammates are like family and you will enjoy being with them.

The coach does not make snap decisions. Most of the stars of today's teams were bench warmers in years 1-2.5. Look at the top ACC teams - the top scorers and goalies didn't see the field in the early years. It's just sports.

Being on a team helps your academics - you get extra time, tutors, early registration, etc etc etc. Even in D3 schools. You take classes over the summer because you have to be there anyway to train preseason and the schools pay for your classes. Even for walkons.

I can't comment on every school but I have a friend who was a scholarship athlete at William and Mary (not soccer). He told me there was no "extra time." According to him, if he went to a professor and asked for extra time because they were traveling for an away game the answer was you are here for academics. Turn your assignment in before you leave for the trip.

This may have changed. It was at least 20+ years ago.

No…not even on D3. D3 athletes are students first, with very few addition resources to help balance the load…why? Because the athletic load is light years different.

Yes D3 is harder but they do get extra time and extra resources. They travel and have soccer requirement. They get extensions and resouce support NARPS do not.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What an odd series of posts.

College teams - D1 to D3 - do not keep players who cannot contribute on the field. They are bad influences. And, frankly, no one wants to stick around. Being on even a D3 team is a literal ton of work.

In season you do nothing but team requirements and classes. The only saving grace is that you get playing time - or if you are a freshman with someone ahead of you - you might get playing time. If you don’t make the travel roster that’s bad news.

The coach makes a determination pretty quick - certainly by the middle of freshman year. Yes/No. If “no”, they want any athletic money back for next year. You are a waste of money and time and they treat you like that. The nicer ones ignore you. It’s also obvious to the players. They ignore you too. Mind you, your teammates do not want you getting any of their playing time anyway so there is a bit of a hostile relationship always present.

And, being on a team screws up your academics. You are doomed to summer classes because you can only take a bare minimum of courses in season. By Junior year you are really struggling to schedule advanced courses with prerequisites that you can’t take in season. Many players quit who are on the edge of getting playing time at this point.

It’s not a surprise. Look at any college your kid is thinking about. Look at their current roster. Count the seniors. Now go back 4 years and count the freshmen. How many stayed? If it’s half - that’s good. How many of those long gone players came into the program thinking they were going to tear things up?

Let me update this with truth.
Team requirements can be fun. You would not be on the team if you didn't enjoy the sport. Your teammates are like family and you will enjoy being with them.

The coach does not make snap decisions. Most of the stars of today's teams were bench warmers in years 1-2.5. Look at the top ACC teams - the top scorers and goalies didn't see the field in the early years. It's just sports.

Being on a team helps your academics - you get extra time, tutors, early registration, etc etc etc. Even in D3 schools. You take classes over the summer because you have to be there anyway to train preseason and the schools pay for your classes. Even for walkons.

I can't comment on every school but I have a friend who was a scholarship athlete at William and Mary (not soccer). He told me there was no "extra time." According to him, if he went to a professor and asked for extra time because they were traveling for an away game the answer was you are here for academics. Turn your assignment in before you leave for the trip.

This may have changed. It was at least 20+ years ago.

No…not even on D3. D3 athletes are students first, with very few addition resources to help balance the load…why? Because the athletic load is light years different.

DD plays at one of the high academics D3s and this is wrong. Travel is excused. Player and professor meet with the schedule at the start of the semester and make a new plan. Sometimes work is accelerated — due on Friday but on travel so hand in Thursday. Sometimes pushed back. Due on Friday but have u til midnight Tuesday. Team also helps. A practice that was set at the start conflicted with a lab for three players. Coach moved practice. Also could have just excused those players. They work hard to make it work. But the university has made it a priority that student athletes not get jammed up. There is a person in administration to go to if you are jammed up and they will fix. They are not in athletics but in the leadership.

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Anonymous wrote:I am sure they are all still populating in, but for VDA

Dayton
ODU
Syracuse
Princeton
Northern Arizona
Wake
JMU x2
Radford x2
Xavier
Boston Univ
Clemson
Seton Hall
George Mason
UNC-Charlotte
Pitt
St. Joseph
Stanford
MIT
VA Tech
Fairfield
Wheaton (MA)
Towson
Auburn

Again, like with Arlington, Union, Bethesda, and all others to follow, we have to compartmentalize that some are recruited for being student athletes and others for athlete students

How many of these players will get any playing time next year?

Who knows? And it depends on things that have not happened yet like how thye come into camp. But why is this a point for you?

It’s a point because people here are making way too much out of which players from which clubs are going to which colleges. It will matter so little in 2 years. Most of the players will either never see the field or quit altogether before they finish college. Even the ones who do play will be done with soccer once they graduate. It’s like making a big deal about which team a player’s on at U10. After a few years no one cares anymore including the player. Why does anything except the academic credentials matter for where someone goes to college?

Because for some parents, they want to say, "My son/daughter goes to Duke" irrespective of how the child was admitted and whether it is a good fit academically for them. There are people who can't stomach the thought of their child being a student at Mason or ODU and having people in their social circle know it.

It's very similar to the relatively recent college entrance scandal. There were parents who "needed" to say their daughter went to USC, as opposed to somewhere like Fresno State or CSU LA.

Keep telling yourself that you’d pick ODU over Duke even if your kid wasn’t academically prepared for Duke… 😂 Kids coming out of Duke no matter how they do academically are gonna be better off career wise than kids coming out of ODU. No one is choosing ODU over Duke if they can help it.

Of course anyone would choose Duke over ODU. Assuming they could afford it. But that’s not the point. The point is that anyone that gets accepted to Duke to play soccer is either 1) a regular youth national team player with legit pro talent (a true unicorn not any of your daughters) or 2) an academic star (top of class, perfect SAT) who would have had a shot to get into Duke without soccer

Right, and these are people on th3 Duke wom3ns soccer team who are not #1 above. At all. So how did they make the team?

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

Why is this person/people having such a hard time with the fact that wealthy people with influence can get what they want for their kids? This isn't that difficult to grasp. It is happening, it has happened and will happen every year...especially around the DMV. The kids are all good kids I'm sure, they are probably great students...simply can't play soccer at these schools, so it pisses everyone off when they rub it in everyone's face rather than showing some humility. It's also insulting to the girls who get recruited to play soccer at these schools that earn it and chuckle when they see these players announce their POSER soccer commitments. It also rubs salt in the wounds of all the people that have daughters that are way better players than these kids and simply can't get recruited to any of the schools they want. Again, if the kids don't care that they won't play a meaningful minute in 4 years if they can stay on the roster as practice players then I guess it's a win for them. So, keep it to yourself and enjoy the next legacy of Duke, UVA etc.

I guess why do you think the fix is in on this? It is not. You do not makle a sports team in 2024 by paying money (donations) even if you once did. Thgis was shut down as a bad look by the colleges. they will let you get in by a large donation just not on a sports team. Coaches are not taking them for the bottom of the roster. It would take over $1 million for someone to get a kid in Duke. Are you saying that parents are paying $1 million to get on the soccer team? Not happening.

You are certainly naive. Of course this happens.

just because a family is wealthy and their kids get great spots on Duke roster - does not mean something criminal has happened. You are so bitter.

Not bitter. My kid is heading to a great school. Doesn't mean the other thing didn't happen. It did. Your refusal to believe doesn't make it any less true.

Did the family give you access to their bank account? Lot's of Duke coaches driving new cars? Come on. We don't believe you. You can believe what you want but you sound crazy.

Yes. And Yes. C'mon get serious. If you don't believe it, that's fine. I'm done trying to convince you.

Yes and Yes? Yes you have access to their bank accounts? BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHA - and you still want us to believe you? Sign off please.

Sarcasm isn't your strong suit. I get it. Next time we'll talk slower just for you.

You call it sarcasm... I call it a lame attempt at lying

Denial is not a river in Egypt.

Oh how cute !
Still lying

Haven't lied once.

Happy Thanksgiving.

Just go help your mom and sign off. You are turning this discussing into a sideshow. You are too young and immature to say anything of substance or with any reality. Please stop. Let the grownups have a discussion about the signings. Not a bunch of your crap.

Apparently I struck a nerve with you. Hurt feelings? Go get your therapist and get help. You need it.

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Anonymous wrote:I am sure they are all still populating in, but for VDA

Dayton
ODU
Syracuse
Princeton
Northern Arizona
Wake
JMU x2
Radford x2
Xavier
Boston Univ
Clemson
Seton Hall
George Mason
UNC-Charlotte
Pitt
St. Joseph
Stanford
MIT
VA Tech
Fairfield
Wheaton (MA)
Towson
Auburn

Again, like with Arlington, Union, Bethesda, and all others to follow, we have to compartmentalize that some are recruited for being student athletes and others for athlete students

How many of these players will get any playing time next year?

Who knows? And it depends on things that have not happened yet like how thye come into camp. But why is this a point for you?

It’s a point because people here are making way too much out of which players from which clubs are going to which colleges. It will matter so little in 2 years. Most of the players will either never see the field or quit altogether before they finish college. Even the ones who do play will be done with soccer once they graduate. It’s like making a big deal about which team a player’s on at U10. After a few years no one cares anymore including the player. Why does anything except the academic credentials matter for where someone goes to college?

Because for some parents, they want to say, "My son/daughter goes to Duke" irrespective of how the child was admitted and whether it is a good fit academically for them. There are people who can't stomach the thought of their child being a student at Mason or ODU and having people in their social circle know it.

It's very similar to the relatively recent college entrance scandal. There were parents who "needed" to say their daughter went to USC, as opposed to somewhere like Fresno State or CSU LA.

Keep telling yourself that you’d pick ODU over Duke even if your kid wasn’t academically prepared for Duke… 😂 Kids coming out of Duke no matter how they do academically are gonna be better off career wise than kids coming out of ODU. No one is choosing ODU over Duke if they can help it.

Of course anyone would choose Duke over ODU. Assuming they could afford it. But that’s not the point. The point is that anyone that gets accepted to Duke to play soccer is either 1) a regular youth national team player with legit pro talent (a true unicorn not any of your daughters) or 2) an academic star (top of class, perfect SAT) who would have had a shot to get into Duke without soccer

Right, and these are people on th3 Duke wom3ns soccer team who are not #1 above. At all. So how did they make the team?

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

Why is this person/people having such a hard time with the fact that wealthy people with influence can get what they want for their kids? This isn't that difficult to grasp. It is happening, it has happened and will happen every year...especially around the DMV. The kids are all good kids I'm sure, they are probably great students...simply can't play soccer at these schools, so it pisses everyone off when they rub it in everyone's face rather than showing some humility. It's also insulting to the girls who get recruited to play soccer at these schools that earn it and chuckle when they see these players announce their POSER soccer commitments. It also rubs salt in the wounds of all the people that have daughters that are way better players than these kids and simply can't get recruited to any of the schools they want. Again, if the kids don't care that they won't play a meaningful minute in 4 years if they can stay on the roster as practice players then I guess it's a win for them. So, keep it to yourself and enjoy the next legacy of Duke, UVA etc.

I guess why do you think the fix is in on this? It is not. You do not makle a sports team in 2024 by paying money (donations) even if you once did. Thgis was shut down as a bad look by the colleges. they will let you get in by a large donation just not on a sports team. Coaches are not taking them for the bottom of the roster. It would take over $1 million for someone to get a kid in Duke. Are you saying that parents are paying $1 million to get on the soccer team? Not happening.

You are certainly naive. Of course this happens.

just because a family is wealthy and their kids get great spots on Duke roster - does not mean something criminal has happened. You are so bitter.

Not bitter. My kid is heading to a great school. Doesn't mean the other thing didn't happen. It did. Your refusal to believe doesn't make it any less true.

Did the family give you access to their bank account? Lot's of Duke coaches driving new cars? Come on. We don't believe you. You can believe what you want but you sound crazy.

Yes. And Yes. C'mon get serious. If you don't believe it, that's fine. I'm done trying to convince you.

Yes and Yes? Yes you have access to their bank accounts? BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHA - and you still want us to believe you? Sign off please.

Sarcasm isn't your strong suit. I get it. Next time we'll talk slower just for you.

You call it sarcasm... I call it a lame attempt at lying

Denial is not a river in Egypt.

Oh how cute !
Still lying

Haven't lied once.

Happy Thanksgiving.

Just go help your mom and sign off. You are turning this discussing into a sideshow. You are too young and immature to say anything of substance or with any reality. Please stop. Let the grownups have a discussion about the signings. Not a bunch of your crap.

Apparently I struck a nerve with you. Hurt feelings? Go get your therapist and get help. You need it.

Yes your immaturity and constant bitterness about sisters getting scholarships over your kid are tiresome.

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Anonymous wrote:I am sure they are all still populating in, but for VDA

Dayton
ODU
Syracuse
Princeton
Northern Arizona
Wake
JMU x2
Radford x2
Xavier
Boston Univ
Clemson
Seton Hall
George Mason
UNC-Charlotte
Pitt
St. Joseph
Stanford
MIT
VA Tech
Fairfield
Wheaton (MA)
Towson
Auburn

Again, like with Arlington, Union, Bethesda, and all others to follow, we have to compartmentalize that some are recruited for being student athletes and others for athlete students

How many of these players will get any playing time next year?

Who knows? And it depends on things that have not happened yet like how thye come into camp. But why is this a point for you?

It’s a point because people here are making way too much out of which players from which clubs are going to which colleges. It will matter so little in 2 years. Most of the players will either never see the field or quit altogether before they finish college. Even the ones who do play will be done with soccer once they graduate. It’s like making a big deal about which team a player’s on at U10. After a few years no one cares anymore including the player. Why does anything except the academic credentials matter for where someone goes to college?

Because for some parents, they want to say, "My son/daughter goes to Duke" irrespective of how the child was admitted and whether it is a good fit academically for them. There are people who can't stomach the thought of their child being a student at Mason or ODU and having people in their social circle know it.

It's very similar to the relatively recent college entrance scandal. There were parents who "needed" to say their daughter went to USC, as opposed to somewhere like Fresno State or CSU LA.

Keep telling yourself that you’d pick ODU over Duke even if your kid wasn’t academically prepared for Duke… 😂 Kids coming out of Duke no matter how they do academically are gonna be better off career wise than kids coming out of ODU. No one is choosing ODU over Duke if they can help it.

Of course anyone would choose Duke over ODU. Assuming they could afford it. But that’s not the point. The point is that anyone that gets accepted to Duke to play soccer is either 1) a regular youth national team player with legit pro talent (a true unicorn not any of your daughters) or 2) an academic star (top of class, perfect SAT) who would have had a shot to get into Duke without soccer

Right, and these are people on th3 Duke wom3ns soccer team who are not #1 above. At all. So how did they make the team?

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

Why is this person/people having such a hard time with the fact that wealthy people with influence can get what they want for their kids? This isn't that difficult to grasp. It is happening, it has happened and will happen every year...especially around the DMV. The kids are all good kids I'm sure, they are probably great students...simply can't play soccer at these schools, so it pisses everyone off when they rub it in everyone's face rather than showing some humility. It's also insulting to the girls who get recruited to play soccer at these schools that earn it and chuckle when they see these players announce their POSER soccer commitments. It also rubs salt in the wounds of all the people that have daughters that are way better players than these kids and simply can't get recruited to any of the schools they want. Again, if the kids don't care that they won't play a meaningful minute in 4 years if they can stay on the roster as practice players then I guess it's a win for them. So, keep it to yourself and enjoy the next legacy of Duke, UVA etc.

I guess why do you think the fix is in on this? It is not. You do not makle a sports team in 2024 by paying money (donations) even if you once did. Thgis was shut down as a bad look by the colleges. they will let you get in by a large donation just not on a sports team. Coaches are not taking them for the bottom of the roster. It would take over $1 million for someone to get a kid in Duke. Are you saying that parents are paying $1 million to get on the soccer team? Not happening.

You are certainly naive. Of course this happens.

just because a family is wealthy and their kids get great spots on Duke roster - does not mean something criminal has happened. You are so bitter.

Not bitter. My kid is heading to a great school. Doesn't mean the other thing didn't happen. It did. Your refusal to believe doesn't make it any less true.

Did the family give you access to their bank account? Lot's of Duke coaches driving new cars? Come on. We don't believe you. You can believe what you want but you sound crazy.

Yes. And Yes. C'mon get serious. If you don't believe it, that's fine. I'm done trying to convince you.

Yes and Yes? Yes you have access to their bank accounts? BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHA - and you still want us to believe you? Sign off please.

Sarcasm isn't your strong suit. I get it. Next time we'll talk slower just for you.

You call it sarcasm... I call it a lame attempt at lying

Denial is not a river in Egypt.

Oh how cute !
Still lying

Haven't lied once.

Happy Thanksgiving.

Just go help your mom and sign off. You are turning this discussing into a sideshow. You are too young and immature to say anything of substance or with any reality. Please stop. Let the grownups have a discussion about the signings. Not a bunch of your crap.

Apparently I struck a nerve with you. Hurt feelings? Go get your therapist and get help. You need it.

Yes your immaturity and constant bitterness about sisters getting scholarships over your kid are tiresome.

Scholarships? Not even close. It has nothing to do with bitterness...it is a discussion around how parents are using influence and wealth to get their kids spots on rosters from a SOCCER standpoint that they don't belong athletically. I'm sure the kids are smart and great kids...not the point. Is there a path for girls that parents have no influence and means AND D3 soccer ability to get on Duke and UVA's roster because they are smart and good kids? I think not...it's all about the $$$.

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Anonymous wrote:I am sure they are all still populating in, but for VDA

Dayton
ODU
Syracuse
Princeton
Northern Arizona
Wake
JMU x2
Radford x2
Xavier
Boston Univ
Clemson
Seton Hall
George Mason
UNC-Charlotte
Pitt
St. Joseph
Stanford
MIT
VA Tech
Fairfield
Wheaton (MA)
Towson
Auburn

Again, like with Arlington, Union, Bethesda, and all others to follow, we have to compartmentalize that some are recruited for being student athletes and others for athlete students

How many of these players will get any playing time next year?

Who knows? And it depends on things that have not happened yet like how thye come into camp. But why is this a point for you?

It’s a point because people here are making way too much out of which players from which clubs are going to which colleges. It will matter so little in 2 years. Most of the players will either never see the field or quit altogether before they finish college. Even the ones who do play will be done with soccer once they graduate. It’s like making a big deal about which team a player’s on at U10. After a few years no one cares anymore including the player. Why does anything except the academic credentials matter for where someone goes to college?

Because for some parents, they want to say, "My son/daughter goes to Duke" irrespective of how the child was admitted and whether it is a good fit academically for them. There are people who can't stomach the thought of their child being a student at Mason or ODU and having people in their social circle know it.

It's very similar to the relatively recent college entrance scandal. There were parents who "needed" to say their daughter went to USC, as opposed to somewhere like Fresno State or CSU LA.

Keep telling yourself that you’d pick ODU over Duke even if your kid wasn’t academically prepared for Duke… 😂 Kids coming out of Duke no matter how they do academically are gonna be better off career wise than kids coming out of ODU. No one is choosing ODU over Duke if they can help it.

Of course anyone would choose Duke over ODU. Assuming they could afford it. But that’s not the point. The point is that anyone that gets accepted to Duke to play soccer is either 1) a regular youth national team player with legit pro talent (a true unicorn not any of your daughters) or 2) an academic star (top of class, perfect SAT) who would have had a shot to get into Duke without soccer

Right, and these are people on th3 Duke wom3ns soccer team who are not #1 above. At all. So how did they make the team?

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

Why is this person/people having such a hard time with the fact that wealthy people with influence can get what they want for their kids? This isn't that difficult to grasp. It is happening, it has happened and will happen every year...especially around the DMV. The kids are all good kids I'm sure, they are probably great students...simply can't play soccer at these schools, so it pisses everyone off when they rub it in everyone's face rather than showing some humility. It's also insulting to the girls who get recruited to play soccer at these schools that earn it and chuckle when they see these players announce their POSER soccer commitments. It also rubs salt in the wounds of all the people that have daughters that are way better players than these kids and simply can't get recruited to any of the schools they want. Again, if the kids don't care that they won't play a meaningful minute in 4 years if they can stay on the roster as practice players then I guess it's a win for them. So, keep it to yourself and enjoy the next legacy of Duke, UVA etc.

I guess why do you think the fix is in on this? It is not. You do not makle a sports team in 2024 by paying money (donations) even if you once did. Thgis was shut down as a bad look by the colleges. they will let you get in by a large donation just not on a sports team. Coaches are not taking them for the bottom of the roster. It would take over $1 million for someone to get a kid in Duke. Are you saying that parents are paying $1 million to get on the soccer team? Not happening.

You are certainly naive. Of course this happens.

just because a family is wealthy and their kids get great spots on Duke roster - does not mean something criminal has happened. You are so bitter.

Not bitter. My kid is heading to a great school. Doesn't mean the other thing didn't happen. It did. Your refusal to believe doesn't make it any less true.

Did the family give you access to their bank account? Lot's of Duke coaches driving new cars? Come on. We don't believe you. You can believe what you want but you sound crazy.

Yes. And Yes. C'mon get serious. If you don't believe it, that's fine. I'm done trying to convince you.

Yes and Yes? Yes you have access to their bank accounts? BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHA - and you still want us to believe you? Sign off please.

Sarcasm isn't your strong suit. I get it. Next time we'll talk slower just for you.

You call it sarcasm... I call it a lame attempt at lying

Denial is not a river in Egypt.

Oh how cute !
Still lying

Haven't lied once.

Happy Thanksgiving.

Just go help your mom and sign off. You are turning this discussing into a sideshow. You are too young and immature to say anything of substance or with any reality. Please stop. Let the grownups have a discussion about the signings. Not a bunch of your crap.

Apparently I struck a nerve with you. Hurt feelings? Go get your therapist and get help. You need it.

Yes your immaturity and constant bitterness about sisters getting scholarships over your kid are tiresome.

Scholarships? Not even close. It has nothing to do with bitterness...it is a discussion around how parents are using influence and wealth to get their kids spots on rosters from a SOCCER standpoint that they don't belong athletically. I'm sure the kids are smart and great kids...not the point. Is there a path for girls that parents have no influence and means AND D3 soccer ability to get on Duke and UVA's roster because they are smart and good kids? I think not...it's all about the $$$.

Exactly.

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Anonymous wrote:I am sure they are all still populating in, but for VDA

Dayton
ODU
Syracuse
Princeton
Northern Arizona
Wake
JMU x2
Radford x2
Xavier
Boston Univ
Clemson
Seton Hall
George Mason
UNC-Charlotte
Pitt
St. Joseph
Stanford
MIT
VA Tech
Fairfield
Wheaton (MA)
Towson
Auburn

Again, like with Arlington, Union, Bethesda, and all others to follow, we have to compartmentalize that some are recruited for being student athletes and others for athlete students

How many of these players will get any playing time next year?

Who knows? And it depends on things that have not happened yet like how thye come into camp. But why is this a point for you?

It’s a point because people here are making way too much out of which players from which clubs are going to which colleges. It will matter so little in 2 years. Most of the players will either never see the field or quit altogether before they finish college. Even the ones who do play will be done with soccer once they graduate. It’s like making a big deal about which team a player’s on at U10. After a few years no one cares anymore including the player. Why does anything except the academic credentials matter for where someone goes to college?

Because for some parents, they want to say, "My son/daughter goes to Duke" irrespective of how the child was admitted and whether it is a good fit academically for them. There are people who can't stomach the thought of their child being a student at Mason or ODU and having people in their social circle know it.

It's very similar to the relatively recent college entrance scandal. There were parents who "needed" to say their daughter went to USC, as opposed to somewhere like Fresno State or CSU LA.

Keep telling yourself that you’d pick ODU over Duke even if your kid wasn’t academically prepared for Duke… 😂 Kids coming out of Duke no matter how they do academically are gonna be better off career wise than kids coming out of ODU. No one is choosing ODU over Duke if they can help it.

Of course anyone would choose Duke over ODU. Assuming they could afford it. But that’s not the point. The point is that anyone that gets accepted to Duke to play soccer is either 1) a regular youth national team player with legit pro talent (a true unicorn not any of your daughters) or 2) an academic star (top of class, perfect SAT) who would have had a shot to get into Duke without soccer

Right, and these are people on th3 Duke wom3ns soccer team who are not #1 above. At all. So how did they make the team?

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

Why is this person/people having such a hard time with the fact that wealthy people with influence can get what they want for their kids? This isn't that difficult to grasp. It is happening, it has happened and will happen every year...especially around the DMV. The kids are all good kids I'm sure, they are probably great students...simply can't play soccer at these schools, so it pisses everyone off when they rub it in everyone's face rather than showing some humility. It's also insulting to the girls who get recruited to play soccer at these schools that earn it and chuckle when they see these players announce their POSER soccer commitments. It also rubs salt in the wounds of all the people that have daughters that are way better players than these kids and simply can't get recruited to any of the schools they want. Again, if the kids don't care that they won't play a meaningful minute in 4 years if they can stay on the roster as practice players then I guess it's a win for them. So, keep it to yourself and enjoy the next legacy of Duke, UVA etc.

I guess why do you think the fix is in on this? It is not. You do not makle a sports team in 2024 by paying money (donations) even if you once did. Thgis was shut down as a bad look by the colleges. they will let you get in by a large donation just not on a sports team. Coaches are not taking them for the bottom of the roster. It would take over $1 million for someone to get a kid in Duke. Are you saying that parents are paying $1 million to get on the soccer team? Not happening.

You are certainly naive. Of course this happens.

just because a family is wealthy and their kids get great spots on Duke roster - does not mean something criminal has happened. You are so bitter.

Not bitter. My kid is heading to a great school. Doesn't mean the other thing didn't happen. It did. Your refusal to believe doesn't make it any less true.

Did the family give you access to their bank account? Lot's of Duke coaches driving new cars? Come on. We don't believe you. You can believe what you want but you sound crazy.

Yes. And Yes. C'mon get serious. If you don't believe it, that's fine. I'm done trying to convince you.

Yes and Yes? Yes you have access to their bank accounts? BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHA - and you still want us to believe you? Sign off please.

Sarcasm isn't your strong suit. I get it. Next time we'll talk slower just for you.

You call it sarcasm... I call it a lame attempt at lying

Denial is not a river in Egypt.

Oh how cute !
Still lying

Haven't lied once.

Happy Thanksgiving.

Just go help your mom and sign off. You are turning this discussing into a sideshow. You are too young and immature to say anything of substance or with any reality. Please stop. Let the grownups have a discussion about the signings. Not a bunch of your crap.

Apparently I struck a nerve with you. Hurt feelings? Go get your therapist and get help. You need it.

Yes your immaturity and constant bitterness about sisters getting scholarships over your kid are tiresome.

Be honest. Are you the parents? I, personally, can't imagine anyone else putting the time into arguing about this if they weren't.

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Anonymous wrote:Do Ivy’s give any scholarship $?

No they can't call it athletic scholarship. But they do give $ for other reasons etc and will help get you in. If you are a great athlete, it will work out for you.

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Anonymous wrote:I am sure they are all still populating in, but for VDA

Dayton
ODU
Syracuse
Princeton
Northern Arizona
Wake
JMU x2
Radford x2
Xavier
Boston Univ
Clemson
Seton Hall
George Mason
UNC-Charlotte
Pitt
St. Joseph
Stanford
MIT
VA Tech
Fairfield
Wheaton (MA)
Towson
Auburn

Again, like with Arlington, Union, Bethesda, and all others to follow, we have to compartmentalize that some are recruited for being student athletes and others for athlete students

How many of these players will get any playing time next year?

Who knows? And it depends on things that have not happened yet like how thye come into camp. But why is this a point for you?

It’s a point because people here are making way too much out of which players from which clubs are going to which colleges. It will matter so little in 2 years. Most of the players will either never see the field or quit altogether before they finish college. Even the ones who do play will be done with soccer once they graduate. It’s like making a big deal about which team a player’s on at U10. After a few years no one cares anymore including the player. Why does anything except the academic credentials matter for where someone goes to college?

Because for some parents, they want to say, "My son/daughter goes to Duke" irrespective of how the child was admitted and whether it is a good fit academically for them. There are people who can't stomach the thought of their child being a student at Mason or ODU and having people in their social circle know it.

It's very similar to the relatively recent college entrance scandal. There were parents who "needed" to say their daughter went to USC, as opposed to somewhere like Fresno State or CSU LA.

Keep telling yourself that you’d pick ODU over Duke even if your kid wasn’t academically prepared for Duke… 😂 Kids coming out of Duke no matter how they do academically are gonna be better off career wise than kids coming out of ODU. No one is choosing ODU over Duke if they can help it.

Of course anyone would choose Duke over ODU. Assuming they could afford it. But that’s not the point. The point is that anyone that gets accepted to Duke to play soccer is either 1) a regular youth national team player with legit pro talent (a true unicorn not any of your daughters) or 2) an academic star (top of class, perfect SAT) who would have had a shot to get into Duke without soccer

Right, and these are people on th3 Duke wom3ns soccer team who are not #1 above. At all. So how did they make the team?

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

Why is this person/people having such a hard time with the fact that wealthy people with influence can get what they want for their kids? This isn't that difficult to grasp. It is happening, it has happened and will happen every year...especially around the DMV. The kids are all good kids I'm sure, they are probably great students...simply can't play soccer at these schools, so it pisses everyone off when they rub it in everyone's face rather than showing some humility. It's also insulting to the girls who get recruited to play soccer at these schools that earn it and chuckle when they see these players announce their POSER soccer commitments. It also rubs salt in the wounds of all the people that have daughters that are way better players than these kids and simply can't get recruited to any of the schools they want. Again, if the kids don't care that they won't play a meaningful minute in 4 years if they can stay on the roster as practice players then I guess it's a win for them. So, keep it to yourself and enjoy the next legacy of Duke, UVA etc.

I guess why do you think the fix is in on this? It is not. You do not makle a sports team in 2024 by paying money (donations) even if you once did. Thgis was shut down as a bad look by the colleges. they will let you get in by a large donation just not on a sports team. Coaches are not taking them for the bottom of the roster. It would take over $1 million for someone to get a kid in Duke. Are you saying that parents are paying $1 million to get on the soccer team? Not happening.

You are certainly naive. Of course this happens.

just because a family is wealthy and their kids get great spots on Duke roster - does not mean something criminal has happened. You are so bitter.

Not bitter. My kid is heading to a great school. Doesn't mean the other thing didn't happen. It did. Your refusal to believe doesn't make it any less true.

Did the family give you access to their bank account? Lot's of Duke coaches driving new cars? Come on. We don't believe you. You can believe what you want but you sound crazy.

Yes. And Yes. C'mon get serious. If you don't believe it, that's fine. I'm done trying to convince you.

Yes and Yes? Yes you have access to their bank accounts? BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHA - and you still want us to believe you? Sign off please.

Sarcasm isn't your strong suit. I get it. Next time we'll talk slower just for you.

You call it sarcasm... I call it a lame attempt at lying

Denial is not a river in Egypt.

Oh how cute !
Still lying

Haven't lied once.

Happy Thanksgiving.

Just go help your mom and sign off. You are turning this discussing into a sideshow. You are too young and immature to say anything of substance or with any reality. Please stop. Let the grownups have a discussion about the signings. Not a bunch of your crap.

Apparently I struck a nerve with you. Hurt feelings? Go get your therapist and get help. You need it.

Yes your immaturity and constant bitterness about sisters getting scholarships over your kid are tiresome.

Scholarships? Not even close. It has nothing to do with bitterness...it is a discussion around how parents are using influence and wealth to get their kids spots on rosters from a SOCCER standpoint that they don't belong athletically. I'm sure the kids are smart and great kids...not the point. Is there a path for girls that parents have no influence and means AND D3 soccer ability to get on Duke and UVA's roster because they are smart and good kids? I think not...it's all about the $$$.

There are no D3 soccer kids on UVA and Duke -- not a one --- sorry the world does not work the way you think it does.

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Anonymous wrote:I am sure they are all still populating in, but for VDA

Dayton
ODU
Syracuse
Princeton
Northern Arizona
Wake
JMU x2
Radford x2
Xavier
Boston Univ
Clemson
Seton Hall
George Mason
UNC-Charlotte
Pitt
St. Joseph
Stanford
MIT
VA Tech
Fairfield
Wheaton (MA)
Towson
Auburn

Again, like with Arlington, Union, Bethesda, and all others to follow, we have to compartmentalize that some are recruited for being student athletes and others for athlete students

How many of these players will get any playing time next year?

Who knows? And it depends on things that have not happened yet like how thye come into camp. But why is this a point for you?

It’s a point because people here are making way too much out of which players from which clubs are going to which colleges. It will matter so little in 2 years. Most of the players will either never see the field or quit altogether before they finish college. Even the ones who do play will be done with soccer once they graduate. It’s like making a big deal about which team a player’s on at U10. After a few years no one cares anymore including the player. Why does anything except the academic credentials matter for where someone goes to college?

Because for some parents, they want to say, "My son/daughter goes to Duke" irrespective of how the child was admitted and whether it is a good fit academically for them. There are people who can't stomach the thought of their child being a student at Mason or ODU and having people in their social circle know it.

It's very similar to the relatively recent college entrance scandal. There were parents who "needed" to say their daughter went to USC, as opposed to somewhere like Fresno State or CSU LA.

Keep telling yourself that you’d pick ODU over Duke even if your kid wasn’t academically prepared for Duke… 😂 Kids coming out of Duke no matter how they do academically are gonna be better off career wise than kids coming out of ODU. No one is choosing ODU over Duke if they can help it.

Of course anyone would choose Duke over ODU. Assuming they could afford it. But that’s not the point. The point is that anyone that gets accepted to Duke to play soccer is either 1) a regular youth national team player with legit pro talent (a true unicorn not any of your daughters) or 2) an academic star (top of class, perfect SAT) who would have had a shot to get into Duke without soccer

Right, and these are people on th3 Duke wom3ns soccer team who are not #1 above. At all. So how did they make the team?

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

Why is this person/people having such a hard time with the fact that wealthy people with influence can get what they want for their kids? This isn't that difficult to grasp. It is happening, it has happened and will happen every year...especially around the DMV. The kids are all good kids I'm sure, they are probably great students...simply can't play soccer at these schools, so it pisses everyone off when they rub it in everyone's face rather than showing some humility. It's also insulting to the girls who get recruited to play soccer at these schools that earn it and chuckle when they see these players announce their POSER soccer commitments. It also rubs salt in the wounds of all the people that have daughters that are way better players than these kids and simply can't get recruited to any of the schools they want. Again, if the kids don't care that they won't play a meaningful minute in 4 years if they can stay on the roster as practice players then I guess it's a win for them. So, keep it to yourself and enjoy the next legacy of Duke, UVA etc.

I guess why do you think the fix is in on this? It is not. You do not makle a sports team in 2024 by paying money (donations) even if you once did. Thgis was shut down as a bad look by the colleges. they will let you get in by a large donation just not on a sports team. Coaches are not taking them for the bottom of the roster. It would take over $1 million for someone to get a kid in Duke. Are you saying that parents are paying $1 million to get on the soccer team? Not happening.

You are certainly naive. Of course this happens.

just because a family is wealthy and their kids get great spots on Duke roster - does not mean something criminal has happened. You are so bitter.

Not bitter. My kid is heading to a great school. Doesn't mean the other thing didn't happen. It did. Your refusal to believe doesn't make it any less true.

Did the family give you access to their bank account? Lot's of Duke coaches driving new cars? Come on. We don't believe you. You can believe what you want but you sound crazy.

Yes. And Yes. C'mon get serious. If you don't believe it, that's fine. I'm done trying to convince you.

Yes and Yes? Yes you have access to their bank accounts? BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHA - and you still want us to believe you? Sign off please.

Sarcasm isn't your strong suit. I get it. Next time we'll talk slower just for you.

You call it sarcasm... I call it a lame attempt at lying

Denial is not a river in Egypt.

Oh how cute !
Still lying

Haven't lied once.

Happy Thanksgiving.

Just go help your mom and sign off. You are turning this discussing into a sideshow. You are too young and immature to say anything of substance or with any reality. Please stop. Let the grownups have a discussion about the signings. Not a bunch of your crap.

Apparently I struck a nerve with you. Hurt feelings? Go get your therapist and get help. You need it.

Yes your immaturity and constant bitterness about sisters getting scholarships over your kid are tiresome.

Scholarships? Not even close. It has nothing to do with bitterness...it is a discussion around how parents are using influence and wealth to get their kids spots on rosters from a SOCCER standpoint that they don't belong athletically. I'm sure the kids are smart and great kids...not the point. Is there a path for girls that parents have no influence and means AND D3 soccer ability to get on Duke and UVA's roster because they are smart and good kids? I think not...it's all about the $$$.

There are no D3 soccer kids on UVA and Duke -- not a one --- sorry the world does not work the way you think it does.

Because the world works the way you think it does...?

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Anonymous wrote:I am sure they are all still populating in, but for VDA

Dayton
ODU
Syracuse
Princeton
Northern Arizona
Wake
JMU x2
Radford x2
Xavier
Boston Univ
Clemson
Seton Hall
George Mason
UNC-Charlotte
Pitt
St. Joseph
Stanford
MIT
VA Tech
Fairfield
Wheaton (MA)
Towson
Auburn

Again, like with Arlington, Union, Bethesda, and all others to follow, we have to compartmentalize that some are recruited for being student athletes and others for athlete students

How many of these players will get any playing time next year?

Who knows? And it depends on things that have not happened yet like how thye come into camp. But why is this a point for you?

It’s a point because people here are making way too much out of which players from which clubs are going to which colleges. It will matter so little in 2 years. Most of the players will either never see the field or quit altogether before they finish college. Even the ones who do play will be done with soccer once they graduate. It’s like making a big deal about which team a player’s on at U10. After a few years no one cares anymore including the player. Why does anything except the academic credentials matter for where someone goes to college?

Because for some parents, they want to say, "My son/daughter goes to Duke" irrespective of how the child was admitted and whether it is a good fit academically for them. There are people who can't stomach the thought of their child being a student at Mason or ODU and having people in their social circle know it.

It's very similar to the relatively recent college entrance scandal. There were parents who "needed" to say their daughter went to USC, as opposed to somewhere like Fresno State or CSU LA.

Keep telling yourself that you’d pick ODU over Duke even if your kid wasn’t academically prepared for Duke… 😂 Kids coming out of Duke no matter how they do academically are gonna be better off career wise than kids coming out of ODU. No one is choosing ODU over Duke if they can help it.

Of course anyone would choose Duke over ODU. Assuming they could afford it. But that’s not the point. The point is that anyone that gets accepted to Duke to play soccer is either 1) a regular youth national team player with legit pro talent (a true unicorn not any of your daughters) or 2) an academic star (top of class, perfect SAT) who would have had a shot to get into Duke without soccer

Right, and these are people on th3 Duke wom3ns soccer team who are not #1 above. At all. So how did they make the team?

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

Why is this person/people having such a hard time with the fact that wealthy people with influence can get what they want for their kids? This isn't that difficult to grasp. It is happening, it has happened and will happen every year...especially around the DMV. The kids are all good kids I'm sure, they are probably great students...simply can't play soccer at these schools, so it pisses everyone off when they rub it in everyone's face rather than showing some humility. It's also insulting to the girls who get recruited to play soccer at these schools that earn it and chuckle when they see these players announce their POSER soccer commitments. It also rubs salt in the wounds of all the people that have daughters that are way better players than these kids and simply can't get recruited to any of the schools they want. Again, if the kids don't care that they won't play a meaningful minute in 4 years if they can stay on the roster as practice players then I guess it's a win for them. So, keep it to yourself and enjoy the next legacy of Duke, UVA etc.

I guess why do you think the fix is in on this? It is not. You do not makle a sports team in 2024 by paying money (donations) even if you once did. Thgis was shut down as a bad look by the colleges. they will let you get in by a large donation just not on a sports team. Coaches are not taking them for the bottom of the roster. It would take over $1 million for someone to get a kid in Duke. Are you saying that parents are paying $1 million to get on the soccer team? Not happening.

You are certainly naive. Of course this happens.

just because a family is wealthy and their kids get great spots on Duke roster - does not mean something criminal has happened. You are so bitter.

Not bitter. My kid is heading to a great school. Doesn't mean the other thing didn't happen. It did. Your refusal to believe doesn't make it any less true.

Did the family give you access to their bank account? Lot's of Duke coaches driving new cars? Come on. We don't believe you. You can believe what you want but you sound crazy.

Yes. And Yes. C'mon get serious. If you don't believe it, that's fine. I'm done trying to convince you.

Yes and Yes? Yes you have access to their bank accounts? BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHA - and you still want us to believe you? Sign off please.

Sarcasm isn't your strong suit. I get it. Next time we'll talk slower just for you.

You call it sarcasm... I call it a lame attempt at lying

Denial is not a river in Egypt.

Oh how cute !
Still lying

Haven't lied once.

Happy Thanksgiving.

Just go help your mom and sign off. You are turning this discussing into a sideshow. You are too young and immature to say anything of substance or with any reality. Please stop. Let the grownups have a discussion about the signings. Not a bunch of your crap.

Apparently I struck a nerve with you. Hurt feelings? Go get your therapist and get help. You need it.

Yes your immaturity and constant bitterness about sisters getting scholarships over your kid are tiresome.

Scholarships? Not even close. It has nothing to do with bitterness...it is a discussion around how parents are using influence and wealth to get their kids spots on rosters from a SOCCER standpoint that they don't belong athletically. I'm sure the kids are smart and great kids...not the point. Is there a path for girls that parents have no influence and means AND D3 soccer ability to get on Duke and UVA's roster because they are smart and good kids? I think not...it's all about the $$$.

There are no D3 soccer kids on UVA and Duke -- not a one --- sorry the world does not work the way you think it does.

Because the world works the way you think it does...?

Yes exactly!!!!!

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I don't think all the players on either team are of the same level.

A few might belong at D3s...true